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- Why Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League is dead on arrival.
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Turning the Arkham Trilogy into a multiplayer lootbox trap really shows how oblivious WB's upper management is to games
there is no loot boxes in this
@@arcanumz8352 Point still stands.
@arcanumz8352 who cares
Does it tho?@@chainedpanda9574
@@arcanumz8352 There's season passes. That's exactly as bad as loot boxes.
And no, the fact that they're cosmetics isn't better. The whole "cosmetics are fine" attitude is why monetization of games is so fucking awful nowadays. Gamers didn't complain enough about horse armor, now the whole industry is shit.
8 years of development for a passable looter shooter thanks WB what a great use of Rocksteady!
wb should never bought these characters
Passable?
I'd rather watch CZcams scam ads then play this game
The travesty is how they made the Arkham Trilogy & cemented the bar for playing as a hero
Not just WB's fault, the Rocksteady we used to know doesn't exist anymore
I feel like one of the best representations of superman was in the animated show during his "world of cardboard" speech. He is in no way a morally grey character, he represents truth and justice and the willingness to sacrifice ones own comfort and well being in order to protect those around you. He has the nick name the big blue boy scout for a reason, he's the moral compass of the Justice League. Batman on multiple occasions said that if Superman wasn't on his team he would be a much darker person
Yea, the trick with Superman is the same trick with Spiderman, you make the Villains the interesting characters. Spiderman just spams corny jokes the entire time instead of being more stoic.
@@nokturnallex2160 this, I agree with totally. What makes a superhero interesting is their villain. Spiderman and Batman had the most memorable villains that even me who didnt read their comics knew about them.
Well the Flash is the moral center of the Justice League, but i agree mostly
@@nokturnallex2160 or you know have the heroes get to BE heroes, I am sorry I am not interested in using my superhero to make sure two gay guys get to go to the freaking prom...and I apologize for sounding blunt but why does "social commentary" issues have to be in the freaking game even if I was helping two straight people go to the prom its STILL WOULDN'T BE ANY LESS stupid
@nokturnallex2160 superman is interesting enough without needing his personality changed. He has amazing comics that doesn't even involve any grand battles.
Wow, wasn't expecting Asmon to explain so eloquently why Lawful Good Superman is so great.
Its the core story of superman after all , doing good when you're basically a god and could do anything.
The only thing I'd disagree with asmon there is that making superman morally grey can be really interesting if done properly. Superman is the antagonist in injustice the comic series and they're probably my favorite comics.
@@voidroadbut you like injustice because it shows what Superman could be without his morality.Which would be meaningless if he was morally gray to begin with.
@@Scarlet_moon. yes , i'm not saying asmon is wrong on superman needing to be lawfull good. What i'm saying is that if you remove that he becomes a really scary antagonist , which makes cool stories
Exactly. Batman himself says in the comics that Supermans's morality is the reason why he is not truly invincible.
if there are 10 single player games, people can play all 10 of them.
if there are 10 live service games, people will play just one of them.
live service doesn't work unless you are on the very top of the food chain.
Yeah and thats fortnite...and looks like pal world bout to be the next thing. This should have been a fortnite expansion like Lego is doing..and I hate fortnite.
Palworld is not. going to be the next big thing or the next thing@@MasculineDopamine
@@hardvegetable1598 2nd place on steam charts, it objectively already is at the moment
@hardvegetable1598 7 million copies sold x 30 dollars.
The game is hyped maybe im just wrong but i dont see this game being this big in the next 3 months ig we will see which comment ages worst@@MasculineDopamine
Wait till Asmon finds out that there’s already a whole movie about Batman effortlessly soloing the suicide squad in one night💀 And they had even more members than they do in this game😂
Assault on Arkham was great.
In the Arkhamverse too.
Justice league: Doom!
Wb has had batman cartoons and movies on point for years. Yet they go and fuck up the games after rocksteady put so much hard work in making the first batman game to not suck. At the time arkam asylum came out. All batman games so far were total
Shit except for one of the sega or super nintendo batman games. Cant remember.
Spoiler:Rip human shark king
@@samfire3067 Constantine must be inconsolable.
The guy that beat almost all his villains in one night while also being poisoned btw was beaten by a group of low ranked Batman villains.
And yeah looter shooter? When the past games has been a beat em up(are they called beat em up or something different) it's like turning halo into a wrestling game.
The sad thing is, they could have written it that Batman was resisting the mind control just enough to slow his own reactions so they could win.
@@breaker5026That would take away from Harley being "the most awesome ever", so it sadly would never have happened these days.
@@VerladT Ah, right, I failed to consider that. Silly me.
It's a shame that Kevin Conroys' final performance is in this title, not to mention the only way to revisit said performance is through CZcams.
My uncle is an exec/adjacent, works with monetizing products like movies, games etc. And it was almost scary when I asked him how they do it and he kept repeating "patterns" and "societal behaviour" like he knew exactly how everyone works.
When I showed him how dogshit this stuff is he couldn't even comprehend that identity politics and "grey" characters weren't working, he kept repeating that things like changing the race of people just for "inclusion" will always be better because someone in India would definitely like a character more if they were also Indian, not if they were a good character.. And he couldn't be convinced...
I think we have to completely sack the whole executive body in every game studio out there or bring gaming back to a niche. Same as with movies, I'm exhausted at the slew of awful big budget games that just don't bring their money's worth, give me more of Lies of P or Pizza Tower. And give me new stuff, not remakes of remakes of remakes and on and on...
Damn homie said to fire his uncle lol
@@chefchefchef damn right I did
Thats right....gaming is thicker than blood!!...
Man! Just from the video you’re watching and the points you made to him, I can tell that you are a part of a huge market that buys(or would buy) the products he wants to sell- and the marketing exec (also your relative!) is so brainwashed, he can’t listen to the consumer. This is sad to hear…
@@honilock577i like the cut of your jib sir
What we're seeing with all these live-service games is effectively a repeat of the MMO-success-chasing of the late-2000s-era.
Don't forget the RTS games of the early 2000s too.
The accuracy
But this is worse, live-service is basically a second job
Nothing appeals to financiers more than the promise of continuous profit. See for example the Juicero.
When mmos had good game play
How games used to be made:
-Okay guys, let's make a game about aliens attacking humanity in the distant future where we play as a badass soldier in power armor who has to save the day !
-Hey, what if we made a racing game about crashing your car in the most spectacular way possible ? It will be like deathmatch with cars !
How games are made today:
-Focus group C said looter shooters are popular, focus group F said open world is popular, we have a license to make a game about "insert shitty IP", how do we make it a live service game ? Also our investors are clear, we need more diversity, so put a black chick in it and make it gay, we also want a slice of that battle royale pie, so add that somehow, last game didn't make enough selling microtransactions, our revenues are down, add more and make them less optional, what about a gacha system ? Who cares if it makes no sense, we need to make money and appeal to everyone.
The live service comments are on point. I used to play a lot of Destiny 2 (played since Destiny 1 release) and it just became such a chore. If you aren’t constantly on top of content drops, you fall really far behind the power curve and can’t even play endgame content that you would have been able to pre-content drop. I took about a 6 month break, came back and would have had to spend an extra $100 on expansions I missed while gone. That one was an eye opener. I used to be maxed out on three characters, I take a break and find out I might as well be a new player again. Just didn’t feel good. Came back to Monster Hunter World recently after like 2 years. I was at the same spot I left off at. It was so cathartic to be able to still progress from where I was. That my time away didn’t mean that I had to start over completely. If your not constantly on top of the live service game, you won’t be able to experience all of its content. I know I can go back to Dark Souls 3 or Elden ring whenever I want and it will still be the same incredible game.
Especially when it comes to getting to the very endgame. You have to grind and prey to go up 1 or 2 power levels. And don’t even get me started on how it’s near impossible to play some content like Iron Banner unless you live, breathe, and eat the game and nothing else at all.
Do you know in SS thereis no gear score like shitty power level in Destiny 2 that reset every seasson
The problem as always is Corporate greed. The people funding these games dont care about making a good game they care about milking gamers for every penny. They have openly said they want to bring back the old days of arcades where you have to pay over and over just to play. Everything corps touch eventually turns to shit due to greed and their total lack of morals and humanity.
But there shall always be game devs that do not agree with this sentiment. If most people boycot the milkers and buy games that don't follow the same sentiment the corpo's will see.
Yea at least we will be left with the goods ones and we won't have to shovel through shit to find them. They will stand out, like fromsoft
lol devs sell themselves to these publishers, don't think they are some epic gamer bros. The only thing they want in to get total security on their work and blind praise
@@kelvinjanssen7889 the problem with these kind of games that even if thousands of players wont touch this garbage hundred will compensate it. They will play the game for several months and for sure will buy skins and etc and 1 player who buys 5 skins counts as 5 people.
The problem game had to be addictive and innovative to people massively open wallets. But it's greed first, then gameplay beeing top 5 trends from last 3 or so years mixed together into undigestable blob.
I just wanna point out. People were begging Rocksteady to do a Superman game for YEARS, and STILL are.
But instead they choose to vomit a Suicide Squad game, and when met with SO much disappointment, they choose to do it anyway.
It might be just me, but If you're gonna shovel out disappointment, at least shovel out disappointment with something people WANTED.
Why waste rocksteady on such a boring character when they could do something like teen titans or literally anybody else
@@juiceboxbzrkSuperman is far from boring lmao.
Problem with Superman game is, how would you do it? How do you make a game for a powerful character not be boring and can a engine handle something like that. First thing that comes to mind is Dragon Ball Z Kakarot, which was quite boring. Superman games are one of those weird hard games to make. The best game that did it decently but ignored the lore of Superman was DC Online.
@@chandlerlowell5 I personally think Superman is the most generic, boring, cliche super hero there is. There's nothing special about him anymore. He's just invincible and OP. The only way he can even take damage is if a crystal from another planet somehow ends up there (which it always does, cause there wouldn't be a conflict otherwise)
Same reason Disney can't make a movie people want. The woke mindvirus. It all traces back to that. It literally will not allow these people to produce anything other than propaganda right up to the bitter end.Very similar to the cordyceps fungus that causes an ant it infects to expend all of it's energy to propagate itself right up to the point of death.
So a friend challenged me some time back to try and figure out a way to make a Superman game somewhat viable (at least how you'd scale threats) and I came up with something easy but it works.
1. You got your bog standard criminals, utterly no threat at all to the point Supes stands there and goes "It tickles" as they try to harm him. Instantly beating via a light fingerflick to the head.
2. Next would be better equipped thugs, maybe Lexcorp supplied stuff, they can slowly but surely chip away at Supes if he lets them and there's alot of them but still not a huge threat.
3. Properly kitted out guys. Think like Kryptonite laced weapons, strength enhancing drugs/tech, maybe even magic as Supes has always been rather vulnerable to magic, not weak but no resistance to it.
4. Here's were you start slipping in metas, maybe some C-listers and the occasional B-lister to be that "captain" or such to the kitted out thugs.
5. Now the more well-knows come in like Bizzaro, Livewire, Volcana, and Lex, these are the big main threats and the obvious bosses of the game.
6. This is more the optional or big end bosses like Darkseid or Lobo (just cause Lobo is all but immortal so he can be a recurring and scaling secret boss)
As for how you'd upgrade him, I guess you could do something like finding Kryptonian records or such, maybe functional suits to defend against weaknesses, or Supes "releases" his subconscious limiters to make himself stronger to match the threats as they escalate. Then as an added treat for postgame fun, you can go full power, truly invulnerable Supes in the free roam but the game temporarily disables it or lets you choose to disable it if you missed any side bosses so you still get a challenge at least
It's not a perfect idea but it's better then the nothing we've gotten for years. And yes, this is proper Supes, the paragon we know and love, not the endlessly tiring villain turned one or the moral gray one.
Being turn-based made BG3 more easy to approach and play. The same did the fully voiced dialogs and other ingredients that made the BG3 more attractive for such a wider audience.
Making rocksteady do an basic looter-shooter after proving themselves to create the arkham series, is one of the biggest misuses ever made in gaming
The Arkham games were terrible lmao
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My favorite Superman movie is Superman Vs The Elite, where they literally show how letting villains live can be bad, BUT still shows that Superman will not do it. He isn't gray, he's meant to be who we should want to be.
Imagine if WB Games let Rocksteady make a new Arkham game using Unreal Engine 5. Arkham Knight still looks phenomenal.
The rocksteady that made arkham knight is dead, dude.
Very true. Those amazing people are long gone.@@callsignfatbeard2637
And for that reason alone, it was more than enough to kill this game before it even began. They actually stopped a new Batman game that was in production, and scrapped it to make this absolute pile of horse shit.
That take on Superman is spot on. Favourite character growing up, not because he was all powerful, but because he wanted to help everyone but realized it wasn't always possible. It didn't make him morally ambiguous but gave him the desire to inspire hope so that ordinary citizens could fill the gaps.
This game is Kevin Conroy's last recorded role and deserves better.
Poor guy got cucked in the shitty tv series before that as well, they brought him to play an evil batman that the "protagonist" kills in the most ridiculous way.
@@Synthia17he said he wanted to do this
@@ahcongelli8620doesn’t mean it still won’t be a stain on his amazing legacy 😅
@@Synthia17Fun Fact: Kevin liked to play as Evil Batmen
@@i3eaniie602 That alone is fine, but what they did with the idea wasn't and of course he wouldn't say anything bad about it.
I think one of the big factors for BG3 success is how almost anything you do is a valid strategy for any situation. There are some good turn based combat RPGs that are much more linear but still tell a great story. However if you're not a fan of that type of game then it can be frustrating. BG3 was like "Yeah, almost whatever you want to do will probably mostly work." which allowed people not into the genre to have an amazing time and those of us who are into the genre to come up with some incredibly game play. I've played through it twice now and every time I've found new stuff I haven't found before or new ways to deal with a situation. While the over all story is the same all the stuff in the middle can be wildly different. Hell just playing a new class/race/background will unlock new option you didn't have before.
No wonder BG3 wasnt for me.
What you were saying about the fomo being a barrier is exactly what happened to me with destiny 2. I stopped playing it constantly for a few weeks so I could play a single player game I was excited for and then I was so lost I never went back.
The saddest part is Rocksteady wanted to make another Batman game or a Superman game but WB didn't let them and they only agreed on the Sucide Squad game because the movie was coming out that time
I think gamers in general are burnt out and over live service games built just to get you addicted and drain your bank account. The formula of making a good game and selling it was going well, dunno why they stopped doing that.
They stopped the good game formula because at some point they realised they can do a live service model and absolutely milk their pyater base. Once one company did this the rest went to follow.
Because whales and people are addicted to spending money to "win" video games.
i mean it depends like warframe have no choice back in the day if u se the documentary they get kick off of every big studio and treat like u are creazy u game never gonna do it ... and still 10 years later warframe is still on the market and they alredy say we have content for another 10 years so it depends
Because, sadly, this new formula is making a fuck ton more money than just making a good game and shipping It
Because they want to put less effort into their games and at the same time earn more. it’s much easier to have just one game that they can keep updating then starting new IPs. They all want to be the next Fortnite.
It's just another "Avengers game" that's it.
As someone who hasn't played BG3 yet and is still going through builds and individual challenge runs in DOS2, I have absolute faith in the fact that BG3 is still gonna be an amazing game in 10 years. Good games made by studios, that are passionate and care about their players simply last the test of time. There's also a thing to be said about single player games when it comes to the longevity: mods can exponentially extend their lifespan, because you can make your experience different every single time you play. This is especially true for games that already stand out on their own merit and don't require mods to be great. Simple tweaks to increase variety of gameplay or improve the appearance of the game as it ages can go a long way without needing to overhaul the entire thing. Also if we look at Skyrim for an example we can also deduce that games can even rise from mediocrity with the support of the community. And while that doesn't make the game itself great, it will keep it relevant and bring in revenue for years to come. An RPG game with a lot to explore, multiple choices and ways to play will have players coming back time and time again - if done right. If DOS2 came out with a brand new DLC today, I would buy it, because even though the game is already a bit older I know I'll be playing it for years to come.
Not to mention that the first level of hiring a dev is performed by HR, not the department head. HR is going to put their bias first before considering the talent prospect.
You know what makes this more sad, is the fact that this is supposedly the last thing Kevin Conroy, THE voice actor for Batman, voiced for, and yet we’re getting a trash game with his last performance in it.
Just don’t play it, then by your own perspective, it’s not his last game. Don’t feel bad for him, he got paid for his talents and got more goodwill and respect than this game will affect.
@@Tetarkallabsolutely agreed. I’m just not going to consider this canon for my sanity lmao
Guys, trust in Kevin. I'm sure he's not pulling a Harrison Ford. I, for one, am gonna let em' cook.
@@allisterthedamned2917 What did Harrison Ford do besides just take another gig? And what would Kevin be doing besides just taking another gig?
@gatorbait9385 WOW, Mr. Ford signed in to Indiana Jones time thing. A character assassinion took place in that movie, not even J.F.K's can rival. Buy I believe in Kevin. He already had to know he was dying when he accepted the script. He knew this would most likely be his last.
I like how the suicide squad trailer was all CGI bullshit and everyone assumed the gameplay was probably trash because of that and look where we are.
u test the beta ? or u are juste trashtalking like all the sheeps because u think it's cool to think like them?
I play during all the béta and all u can see on "the CGI trailer" like u said is in the game.
Marvel suck
@@weaxxful I haven’t played the game because I personally thing the suicide squad team is just an unappealing concept to me and DC should be ashamed for pushing this edgy anarchy ass shit on us still. This game could have sold me on the team because I do like the dynamics but I’m not a fan of the memebers of the team.
Superman was and should be pure and that's why he has been loved. When certain filmmakers deconstruct him, add moral ambiguity, it destroys the character. He's no longer Superman but this other character that we don't know. Same with Indiana Jones, Han Solo, Luke Skywalker. But that's the modern entertainment industry: gone is the Christopher Reeve Superman from 1978. Now we have one who snaps necks. Gone is the ever-hopeful fighter of justice, Luke, replaced by a hopeless hermit. The sweet, beautiful love story of Han and Leia is replaced by a divorced, disconnected couple and their psycho child.
No, this Batman took down a whole army and they gave wonder woman, pants, man, pants 🤢🤮
What I don't understand is. Why are they running around with guns, shooting? these are awesome super heroes. give them some awesome attacks, combos and abilities. Jesus christ... Why are they running around shooting with guns? Completely dropped the ball there, on the basic design
Deadshot is th only one who should be gun focused, everyone else should be doing wacky stuff
The fact king shark is shooting people instead of malling his opponents is insane.
I still think this game woulda been 10,0000 times better if it was teen titians vs the justice league.
Lets be honest,evil Flash with lets say sword could have killed them all so fast they wouldn't have even known they died,so this entire story is stupid.Heck a rock thrown at his speed would end them all.
@Scarlet_moon. Dude could just finger blast em all into oblivion
Even sadder this was one of the last things Kevin Conroy did
Kevin signed up to the project willingly. People need to stop infantilising him and thinking he was forced to take this on…
He loved Batman, and he read the scripts and thought the game was good enough for him to accept it.
Arkham Knight remains one of the greatest mediums ever made not just a game, but the entire story cinematography design and artstyle are still top notch. what a masterpiece.
Yes. And this is how DC, or whoever is making the choices, decided to continue this legendary game and story series. Who the fuck even likes or cares about the Suicide Squad? Give me the man in blue, give me Lanterns, give me speedsters, give me kings of the ocean, give me Amazonians and gods, give me literally anything iconic from DC instead of this cringy bunch of low-level DC villains...
I definitely think it's a WB Games issue. They are not only chasing trends, but they are 100% about the money grubbing.
How if the cosmetics, battlepass and new characters are free?
@@Itzwizb There are ways like they did with MK1. Offer you basic skins, and then charge a premium currency for shop items.
David Zaslav has literally been just CLEANING HOUSE there at WB with ANYTHING and EVERYTHING that doesn’t have the potential to be massively profitable.
Rocksteady was never good the batman games were trash
odd thing is they are years late to the party
"All you had to do was make a damn Superman game Rocksteady!" ━ Big Smoke
it's not about gaming anymore, corporations are trying to shift this world into a dystopian future where corporate fascism takes place in gov. It might sound crazy to Americans, but as a European, I assure you this is not a conspiracy. This industry is just part of it. Meaning, it won't change, unless we change the people on the very top.
Bro's take on Superman and Jonathan Joestar and why "always good does not always mean zero flaws" is so good. I do love me some paragons with consequences. MCU's Captain America did that message right with the "plant yourself like a mighty oak" subplot. Being unconditionally upstanding is a flaw in a world that abuses it. It's a tragedy genre if you think about it.
In the words of the great Stan Lee:
"The person who would win in a fight is whoever the writer wants to win"
All media is having the same problem right now. they are so focused and driven to increase the size of their audience by bringing in new people that they don't realize they are alienating their core audience.
It's not even new audience. They just bring more predatory microtransactions for the sake of their wallet
The general advice is try to tell a joke that makes you laugh and others will laugh with you, try to tell a joke that makes everyone laugh and no one laughs with you.
The real issue is there is no strong leader giving them focus. Its a bunch of MBAs making bussiness decisions.
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5:41 He didn't mean that it was a vampire shooter, but that it was made by Arcane studio, basically you don't ask car engineers to make planes and you don't expect them to revolutionize the industry.
It definitely looks like whoever made the design decision was via focus group. Looks like they did a google search and just grabbed the surface level elements from some popular stuff, slapped on the franchise they had access to and shoveled it out the door. I don't know anything about the source material but am familiar enough with the character of Harley Quin to say that I cant see anyway that a 3rd person shooter could work and feel right. I could honestly see something like the Arkham Knight approach of single character focus and elements designed to fit the character could be pretty dang cool though. She was a fairly interesting character in the Batman Animated series. It would take more work and time than they were probably granted to 'strike while the iron is hot'.
I can totally see that the game is more a letter of introduction of yourself and the experience you can provide.
I think you struck the nail on the head with what to focus on with superman. Having him a sterling character, bad stuff happen because of holding to his principles and then having self doubt and struggling with sticking to his principles would be super engaging. It would could have a very powerful self affirming message about being a good person even when its difficult. Which captures my impression of the best part of superman as a character. Focusing on the nonphysical areas where he is more vulnerable is certainly more difficult to make good than punchy punchy, but there is a lot more room for experimentation and mistakes since it hasnt been touched much in the mainstream (probably much more in the comics).
Last year taught us, each time you hit a rock bottom, there's always another guy already there with a shovel trying to dig deeper.
We thought Forspoken will win, then Redfall came out and took the title for less than 3 weeks, because Gollum was just around the corner ready to elbow drop them. We had a breathing room for few months, we thought nothing can beat Gollum, and then Payday 3 came out as online only game with broken servers, and last but not least the biggest challenger came out just before we finished 2023: The Day Before, seemingly came in with a briefcase and cashed in their money in the bank contract to secure Worst Game of 2023 title. The game that existed just to scam people.
You forgot about the Kong skull island game
@@brianbiswell7591and the walking dead lmao 😂
@@Bored2deathofgames And Avatar the Last Airbender
Yall firgot about diablow me 4
Wow, that was tortured..... Diablow me?
Lame 🤣🤣🤣🤣
He's not saying turn-based games are successful exclusively because they're turn-based, Asmon. He's saying that they haven't fallen out of favor because of proven traction around Star Rail, Baldur's Gate, and Persona. The people that enjoy these games don't describe them as turn based, they explain the draw to them, such as the characters, voice work, music, and narrative. The only people that describe them as turn-based are the ones doing optics coverage and the people that are using that aspect about the game as an excuse not to play them.
I'm using turn based as an excuse to play it
Tbh, imo Star Rail is the best when it embrace the cheesefest and memes. It has a protagonist who literally caved into their intrusive thoughts and lick a frozen fence, or a giveaway fucking SAT textbook because of the memes. The gameplay is cool with mix and matching your team but that got fucked by the game being gacha and the gear grind
@doommaker4000 yeah man. I wanted to play it because I loved the turn-based xcom games and wanted more of them. The rest of the stuff is a bonus.
16:46 almost got me fired from work. 😂😂😂 I laughed way too hard.
I love that Asmon understands the general concept of Superman
This poor game man, it never should have been a live service, not every damn game needs to be a live service, how do we get this idea through the suits heads?
It's impossible, all they will do is continue to think that they know what people want, and if it's negatively received, they will assume that the public doesn't know what they want
And like the dude said in the video you have to have an IP and a target audience that was made for live service that people would like to give a try. Warner bro is making a game as a "continuation" of the Arkhamverse but this time it's a live service all of a sudden you don't just do that to an IP that is already known for being a single player game
by not playing the game and not paying microtransactions in any game ever.
This game should have never be made. Why even make a game about the Suicide Squad, out of the whole vast DC Universe, with all those iconic or unique characters, sharkman, Idris Elba, an Australian and the ugliest version of Harley Quinn ever is what these developers/producers thought is worth so much investment?
Has anyone else noticed that almost all the great games from last year were from devs based in non-english speaking countries? Its a trend that seems like its going to continue this year too.
Same also goes for good-looking female characters.
Japan is lately cooking hard. Not only in games but in anime too. On the other hand, Korea also is doing great job in pop music, TV series and manhwa. Asian entertainment industry is much better than western these days
hotdog brain drain
@@bankaihampter2802 Asian online games are litterally the definition of cash grab and the model for all shitty live service games today. I hate it so much when people praise everything Japanese/Korean because they like the animes or whatever.
@@ZOMBIEo07online games sure, but there are plenty of examples of single player or even online games that don't meet your definition. Elden Ring, Persona, Final Fantasy, Fire Emblem, Monster Hunter, etc.
A major issue with every developer or publisher chasing those live service dollars is that it's a VERY competitive market, and incredibly crowded by other games doing the same thing. Everyone thinks that if they can just put out a basic live service game, and then they'll make GTA or Fortnite money. But a major reason those games make so much money is because they're the best games in those live service markets, and there's only enough room at the top of those live service markets for a handful of games. And even then, no matter how good your game is, you're gonna struggle to hit those numbers because most of the people who are willing to play Live Service games are already playing one of the bigger existing ones, and due to a combination of both brand loyalty and the sunk cost fallacy, there's very little chance you'll get them to forsake their current chosen live service for yours. You have SO MUCH working against you, because you need to make a near perfect game that's also monetized in a way that's not gamer repellent, and even then, you still run the risk that people won't bother trying your game even if it's objectively better than what they're already playing. Your best case scenario a lot of the time is making a really good game that makes just enough money to stay profitable until one of it's competitors at the top gets screwed by it's publisher doing something stupid, at which point you'll be able to siphon off a lot of their players. Basically what happened when WoW lost a bunch of customers to Final Fantasy XIV a few years ago due to some screw up from Activision Blizzard.
They saw the “success” of the Marvel Avengers game, and they figured how could this go wrong?
5:54 Gollum could've easily been good. Just look at the Styx game. Ironically they were published by the same company... I don't get why they didn't give it to that studio.
Dude... Seriously? Didn't know they are from the same guys. Maybe not the producers, probably different employees. But well... They should have some ideia how to drive golum.
@@samwrai Styx was made by Cyanide Studio. Gollum was Daedalic. Both are owned by Nacon though. Supposedly Nacon made Daedalic make the game, which is weird if true, since giving it to Cyanide would make much more sense.
Preach! Styx is a freaking amazing game! Damn I got to play it again lol.
I always thought an interesting way to create a Superman game is to add a faction system and making reputation a factor. If you do good, you'll continue to be loved and do missions with The Justice League or other DC heroes
If you do bad, you'll gain favor of the villains and The Justice League will come after you. Also, everytime you get into battle, you should always be challenged of being aware and cautious of your surroundings, trying your best to cause as minimal property damage and casualties as possible. If you end up being too careless and wreckless in battle, it'll also cause The Justice League to go after you.
The reason the Batman games were good, was because it truly felt like you were Batman. This isn’t a harlequin, or boomerang, or deadshot, or killer shark game. It’s a generic shoot ‘em up with their faces plastered on it.
The main problem I have with microshat taking over gaming companies is the console controller interface, for example in Starfield, completely blocks ctrl alt and shift function to increase options. Having to make the game function for weedheads on a fidget toy is an absolute insult to the PC market.
Probably not the worst, but it might fail the hardest.
I want a Batman game or Superman game. Also, why this game needed to be within the Arkham timeline is beyond me.
Because the greedy execs want to bank on Arkham series popularity and milk the franchise, duh.
They say it’s the same universe but deadshot changes races. The imposter shit doesn’t work narratively and Harley says she had a romantic relationship with Ivy and tries to jog her memory of it in one of the leak cutscenes. Which was never referenced or implied in the arkham games. It doesn’t make sense.
It's an elseworlds story. Classic DC. Basically, like a mutiverse. But it's more of a spin-off. They don't usually collide. Their more like one offs. Like What-if form marvel. An example of an elseworlds story is White Knight. Batman, the white knight is a really good comic. Search it up. So it's not cannon to the main arkhamverse, but instead a new, continued, verse of the arkhamverse. So don't worry. Just have with it.
The batman games were trash
@@CrowofYharnamAre you high?
watching this video, i just figured out how i could get steam to ban AI powered games(probably also get governments to ban it as well) or at least ban what ever genre my game idea would create. or introduce some kind of ranking system for AI levels allowed in games.
"Superman's gone rogue! I didn't want to have to do this, but...Get me Harley Quinn."
To me this just looks like a 2nd Marvel's Avengers
Live service games should be so toxic to devs that they treat it like a death sentence to their career. They should be actively saying no, going on strike, or looking for new jobs.
Unfortunately live service games make way too much money, which also affects developers’ checks and bonuses. So no, smart developers in terms of finances wouldn’t protest live service games, unless all live service games cause terrible developer conditions.
@@Unchainedful greed, over morals, job stability, and artistic integrity. Well I'm not gonna feel bad for them when they lose their jobs because their company wants to chase the trend of being as predatory as possible to the consumer.
If they are ok with what they are doing, im ok to view them similarly to how I would view a blackjack dealer at a casino.
Live service isn't inherently bad tho it can be good if handle with care, it's dev expecting live services to work by adding the systems that most of the good live services changed and moved away from that makes it bad.
It’s the very reason Dragon Age Dreadwolf has taken 9.. *9 YEARS* to develop with still no release date. It was originally a live service multiplayer but they pulled a handbrake several years into development.
@@lapisgaming6093that’s the thing though it is bad. Name one that has done well. It was an attempt to catch Destiny 2’s lightning in a bottle. I’m amazed suicide squad was greenlit as late as it was.
I don't play these games because you have a very small window of time to play it before they move on. It either get's shut down or they patch in some new stuff and take out some of the old.
6:43 Flashback to The Last of Us 2
Rocksteady might go under if this game bombs. From all that I heard, very disappointing that this is the next game after the excellent Arkham Knight.
Excellent is an understatement.
They are a studio with a damn near perfect track record.
With the exception of too many tank segments in AK, every game in the trilogy is _substantially_ better and more impressive than the last.
They defined action combat for the coming decade in AA, absolutely perfected the formula with AC, and then they found a way to make it even better in AK.
And now this shit...
@hundvd_7 It's sad. The game is death on arrival. We should have got a Superman Arkham game years ago, but WB being WB.
If?
@@1234_Flux Have a great day
The audience have been more receptive of the game and that became clear once the NDA was lifted. Almost everyone who played it enjoyed it and that includes the Batman fanboys who simply wanted a new Batman game. We also gotta remember they made a shooter before so they’re not new to this. I think the issue is a lack of faith. They trust rocksteady to make Batman and nothing else which is crazy because they haven’t really failed. I don’t like Batman at all but rocksteady made a great game. If they can make non Batman fans spend money on a Batman game, their audience should at least believe in their capabilities as developers. But their own fans aren’t fans of the studio if them doing something different is a problem.
The only person that likes this game is Skill Up, and he said he liked it about as much as he liked the Avengers game. So, take that as you will. He's also one of those game reviewers paid and flown out by studios to try their games, so the bias is clearly in their favor.
The problem is WB. That's on my list of buy later category. Usually, they get heavy discount after 2 or 3 years later. I've never spent more than $10 for their games.
There actually was an "action combat"-ish D&D game called Sword Coast Legends (around 2014?) and it died very fast.
I hate Warner Bros., they ruined the FEAR series, very innovative idea at the time turned the shooter genre on it's head by adding the supernatural/paranormal, I wonder if we'll ever see a reboot, I remember playing the third game and almost throwing my controller at the television in anger, same with EA almost ruining Dead Space
They did ruin Dead Space, it only took them 10 years to put out something good and it was just a 1 to 1 REMAKE with no originality
@@NickRoxx100 they're rumors that the new studio in charge of Dead Space has a sequel in the works, let's hope they're true, I doubt we'll ever see a FEAR reboot
@@NickRoxx100what a load of bull, the remake has worse animations compared to original and they went ahead and butchered the monster design and sound quality.
@@MGrey-qb5xzwhat the remake for DS was sick it’s what we should hold other game remakes up to but hey atleast it was better then that shitty Callisto protocol what the fuck was that hot mess.
Not a FEAR reboot per say but Trepang2 is a spiritual successor.
You know that part that really sucks? This is Kevin Conroys last roll as Batman.
Way to butcher a man's last roll Rocksteady
dont mention his name as if he was forced to do this...He wanted to do this game.
@@arcanumz8352 I'm not blaming him, I'm blaming rocksteady.
My fault if I worded it poorly (fixed it)
16:44 he’s out here asking the hard hitting questions 😂
2:02 That's called in battle forums and battle threads : PIS : Plot-Induced Stupidity
6:34 the thing that had kept Bungie in the running was the game play. Some of the best gun play out there!
Enchantress would be the only SS character that would have one tenth of a shot vs the JL. The others would get deleted in a second.
Yeap. Brainiac controled JL, or evil leaguers, as the trailers shows, they would literally kill them right away.
Probably Poison (Greta cosplaying as Tetsuyo from Akira) will be OP.
They made her almost defeat the JL on her own in the recent Harley show (that i like).
King Shark can and has traded punches with the likes of Superman. So, you are a bit off base here.
@@shadowpoetrk i don't own stock in DC so I'll live.
9:50 - This is my experience with War Thunder. Played since ground forces closed testing (10+ years ago). Now they've got a battlepass system, on top of Winter and Summer events in which you can earn essentially limited release vehicles.
I used to fire it up, play for an hour or two every day. Now I'll see what event rewards are, and decide if I care to play for them. If a Battlepass season holds nothing I want, I barely even check in until the next season sometimes.
I'm certain that's not the attitude they intended to cultivate, but it is what it is.
Same for me but with Crossout. I played since day one to the point where my clan tag is 6 letters instead of the updated 4 but quit due to the fact they just went to a seasonal reward system. I don't have time for multiple games with battle-passes.
2 weeks into the new year and we already have this bs going on.. rough start boys.
When the concept of DLC first started I told people that this is where games would end up and nobody believed me, like it’s hard to believe that if you let greedy people get away with half-assing a job then they will do it as much as they can.
Same here. Coming from the old days of expansion packs. When I saw map packs for $15 in CoD I was just thinking this is a scam.
Harley Quinn’s chest is small because of “the male gaze” bs politics.
When they first announced Rocksteady was making a suicide squad game I was excited to be able to play as the members of the team… mostly King Shark or Killer Croc (at the time they hadn’t announced which members would be in the game yet) when I found out that it was going to be Avengers meets Borderlands it really bummed me out… I played the alpha and I had a decent time, just not what I thought it could’ve been, call me the problem or not, I’m still on the fence about buying the game🤷♂️
I'm so glad Asmongold said that bit about how people will quit if they miss a battle pass. I always do that. I try explaining it to my friend who apparently loves battle passes and he doesnt understand. As soon as I am not keeping up on a stupid battle pass, I quit forever. For OW2, I didnt even give the game a chance, because the battle pass was just something I didnt want to interact with at all. Players don't love battle passes. CEOs love them.
Should do the master chief collection route and get unlock points for older battlepasses for doing rather normal dailies you can get by playing the game.
Very good points about live service games being exhausting. There are so many games I WOULD play but can't keep up or being buying battle passes every season for every game to actually get most of their content. Most people can only stick to 1 or 2 live service games and hopefully this is realised.
Luckily for this game none of the battlepasses or any of the content goes away so there isn't FOMO at least so if you skip a season or just want to take a break you won't miss out on anything and all of the actual characters, story content, activities and new areas are free. I hate how other live services use FOMO to get you to play their game. Sucks it's a live service, but who knows maybe it won't be bad
Problem with a live service game is the moment you miss a single day you just don't want to bother anymore.
It looks like games are not played because they are fun anymore, but because it is a necessary chore. Or maybe people approach gaming in a different way; I like to play Halo Infinite multiplayer (and I'm a fan since Combat Evolved), but I've never completed any Battlepass, I just play it because is fun to have some games with randoms or friends. Sometimes I play it for several weekends straight, sometimes I leave the game for weeks to play something else, like Diablo II Resurrected where I'm getting my character to lvl 99 but I never approach it as a chore that I must play every weekend
Man the baldurs gate 3 comment you said had me rolling at 28:00. BG3 has the option to not be turn based, that idea carried over from the older D&D 3d games NVN 1 and 2 which greatly improved gameplay imho. You have the option to play both turn by turn or free flowing arpg. just use the spacebar for pc and its in the controllers speed wheel in options to switch gameplay modes. personally I prefer the option to play as I choose. It is more fun in arpg mode than sitting there and slowly calculating everything which is still fine but I prefer the action based option and when it gets harder or more complicated turn on the turn based mode when needed then I can turn it back off when I want to. BG3 is literally a reskin of divinity 2. the divinity series is excellent, I have both and have beaten both NWN and Divinity. Im still on BG3 Ill get around to finishing it eventually. Im still stuck on playing Elden Ring atm.
10:20 thats why I originally fell out of destiny 2, I missed a season and suddenly I lost out on a lot of gear. With the way its gone now I doubt I'll ever try it again.
Actually I was very confused on Baldurs Gate 3 bcuz i never knew they had 2 seperate BG series
I originally thought this was going to be the third BG Dark Alliance which is more of a Diablo Style game
I wasn't aware these were different games. Sobi was very surprised when i started playing and it was more like Fire Emblem
Its funny how FOMO, turns into CBA when u reach a certain age
The higher ups must be held accountable. Say their names!
This game is going to kill Rocksteady 😢
LOL I heard the ambulance coming at exact time 12:43
I started classic wrath about 2 months ago and am exalted in most factions have a ton of mounts can run the hardest dungeons and raids cuz my gear score is so high and have max professions on 3 characters and almost 2 max level characters.. wow is not that hard to catch up in.. retail was even easier. it just seems daunting at first but theres so many catch up systems its really not that bad at all. and by far its been the most fun game ive played in awhile.. between raids and dungeons with the guild and pvp im hooked
2:06 - Felt like the Dark Souls 1 opening.
Harly Quinn, with her spunky attitude & baseball bat
Shark man, who is both shark and man combined
Deadshot, a man who shoots guns good
And boomerang man, so easily forgotten... 🪃
I can't believe WB is going to kill by FAR their best studio with this garbage. Really sucks to see such a great studio fall so far...
Stop blame WB
Honestly this could work if this was a rogue like or rogue light. The whole point to the suicide squad is that this is a suicidal mission. Think about it you and your friends going on missions gathering loot and doing missions knowing fully well you and your friends will probably die but that the point of a rogue likes.
I'm confused, this is not the suicide squad : kill the justice league I playtested in december. Looked completely different, but afair it still has nda on it, so this is very old footage shown here.
It was actually a good experience and I'm looking forward for its release.
Famous designer Dieter Rams wrote down his thoughts on good design titled “10 Principles on Good Design”, which was later picked up and extrapolated to game design by Dan Taylor in a Gamasutra article on good level design. Recommend reading those because they do give a good idea as to why design choices in recent games sometimes feel weird or disconnected and not fun.
any examples you'd be willing to give
@@gagesilvas9426yeah I’d like to hear
asking asmongold viewers to read something is a monumental task
@@gagesilvas9426 Good level design constantly teaches the player something new
In his book “A Theory of Fun”, Raph Koster explains how the human mind enjoys processing information from the world around it into patterns for easier processing later. In gameplay terms this implies that a large part of the fun is generated by the learning, and subsequent mastery, of your various mechanics.
@@collin833 The Legend of Zelda - every dungeon in every Zelda game is a tutorial for the new piece of equipment you find in it... with the dungeon’s boss being the final test (always with a clever little twist). The game’s final boss battle usually requires the player to use every single piece of his equipment to win.
The whole talk about FOMO i couldn't agree more with. Ultimately it's what killed my live for destiny 2 and what keeps me from play so many other games.
The part about streamers not knowing why people watch them really brought back memories about Nighblue3. He was one of the most watched League of Legends streamer, family friendly and really good guides on how to play and master champions etc. Never raging, always learning. All of a sudden this whole 'brand' he build , he threw out the window and became toxic, non-informational, always raging. He even quit league for a while to become full time Fortnite streamer. I believe he's now back on streaming League, but with a fraction of the viewers he once got. Sad.
Just don't get why they fucking HATE THE HEROES. Stop giving us Villains pretending to be heroes or making dark evil versions of the heroes and just give us the DAMN HEROES as they were meant to be for fuck sakes. Bring back the Superman that's about Hope and bright colors standing against the evil, or the Batman that fights against the worst villains in the worst city but gives the people of that shitty city hope they can be saved and has a moral code he does not cross. Or the Flash that's competent and shows mercy and can even understand what his villains are going to a hero so respected even his villains like him. Or Wonder Woman who went AGAINST her prejudice people and saw actual HOPE in the woman of man and exiled herself to help the world of man. Wonder Woman was not a Misandrist her people were she was the opposite that's why she left. Enough with the dark shit.
This game needs to commit it's own title
Harley Quinn is the definition of “I could fix that,” meaning she is supposed to be super hot, but super nuts
I played WoW A LOT in high school from 2002ish-a year or so after Burning Crusade came out. To me, that was still some of the most fun gaming I've ever experienced and every new area was great to explore. I just can't get back into the game now... I've tried a few times but there's just too much but maybe I'll play WoW Classic at some point. I still remember 9th grade me being up at like 2AM on a school night fighting Nefarian and hoping my PC doesn't blue screen on me when he summons the 50 dragon fighters lol
2:02 Kryptonite Bullets and Kryptonite based Joker Gas maybe?