Jack Kirby's Monsters - Artist Edition
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This is legitimate art history analysis with zero fluff from two creators passionate about their craft. Keep it coming guys, you have been a nice solace these past 7 months.
Great episode and it's nice to hear artists defend Vince Colletta. With Thor, I believe his sins were far outweighed by his inks giving a medieval look to the more spaceman aesthetic of Kirby.
I love the comment referring to Kirby's 70's work when "he was only doing 100 pages a month"
How I love to end my weekends. With a Kayfabe video.
To be honest, it's also how I like to start them!
...and spend them.
Oh boy, another book i gotta get my hands on
My tab is going to be stuck on this video for hours today because I have to pause and zoom in every page. Thanks my guys.
Kirby and monsters, doesn't get more fun than that. Thanks for the look guys.
Loved seeing that alternate cover to X-Men #10. I can hear Stan telling Jack, “Make Ka-Zar bigger! He’s gotta stand out more for his debut!”.
Man that New Gods Artists Edition is gonna be insane.
Sinnott said he didn't discover the French curve until WAY later
By the way, Jim Cornette is a huge comic book fan, especially 60's Marvel. I bet you'd be able to interview him
That was cool to see the Avengers/Submariner splash page; it had Iron Man's headshot being his 2nd/golden armor, but when it was published it showed his 1st red and yellow armor. It must've been upgrade between the two moments. Very cool to see.
I have the Fin Fang Foom cover of this Kirby artist edition. It’s amazing how big it is. Love it.
"Marvel Milestones" were the silver margined reprints.
Love Ed's shout out to Chic Stone, my favorite Kirby as well! Good call connecting his work to Bruce Timm's Kirby homages.
Man I wish I had dudes like you guys growing up to talk comics....Or even now for that matter... THANKS AGAIN GUYS!! :)
You guys are the best! I discovered you guys during this freaking pandemic and you have rekindled my love of comic illustration.
A MAGNIFICENT treatise to the King who inspired so many pencils, and pens!!!!! PEACE to the King, Jack Kirby. Thank you gentlemen. God bless.
This was a great breakdown! I love how all the nuance you guys can explain in the story telling and art styles. SUBBED!
Simply the best.
WOW! When I was a kid I remember buying a lot these. Brings back memories.
This was such a gift! So fun and exciting to see jacks vibes out here for us all. Thanks dudes!
SUBSCRIBED! Enjoying the critique and books showcased. Thank you
Cool stuff I love the essential books in black and white
Captain America messed up that guy's arm and back real good
Glorious
It was fairly common (and at DC a requirement, per Gil Kane) for the artist to pencil in the lettering for spacing purposes. I think Larry Lieber was probably writing full scripts on the monster stories Stan didn't sign, so the underlying pencil words would be the exact words of the script. If you're writing a five page story you have to keep things pretty tight. I'm pretty sure that somewhere in the midst of this era Stan did begin to use the Marvel method and was lucky to have KIrby and Ditko, who knew how to tell a concise story. It turns out it takes some pretty esoteric skills not just to visually plan a short story, but to leave a sufficient amount of space for the lettering afterwards, and to place word balloons in a way that moves the story. When the Marvel method was rampant in the 70's, there were a lot of young guns (and some old pros) who produced some truly chaotic work, with balloons and art fighting for space and the scripter being forced to jam in story points that were forgotten in the art.
I was never a fan of Jack Kirby until today.
this was great , thanks guys !
Great vid , I enjoyed the commentary just like I did the historical art . New subscriber.
Welcome, Mike. Thanks for cresting us over an army of 40,000 Kayfabers.
Have you guys checked out the Frank Cho Savage Wolverine artist Edition? I think you'll be in for a wonderful treat and exceptional artwork!
Marvel Heroes and Monsters,Man I need that book,pronto
that brush is ridiculous, especially since you KNOW they were using Winsor & Newton series 7 brushes and those thick lines look like at least a size 8
I think I read somewhere that Ayers used a #6.
Loved this, you guys should take a look at the Steve ditko fanzine he made criticizing his time with marvel
To what fanzine do you refer? - Jim
Cartoonist Kayfabe in 1999 Steve ditko either he made it and published himself? Or was part of it I’m not sure. It’s featured in the “in search of Steve ditko” documentary here’s what I found on eBay this is the zine they’re talking about I’ll ask post a clip where it shows the zine too I’d love to see you guys look into this.
Look up: STEVE DITKO FANZINE "80 PAGE PACKAGE" VOLUME #2 ROBIN SNYDER & STEVE DITKO 1999
On eBay
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I always think of Ditko when I see floating heads
These monster comics fucking rule. I can’t believe reprints are so hard to find. That omnibus you mentioned goes for $100+ and it’s a two volume set. Collecting the originals isn’t chump change either. What a missed opportunity.
Looking for ward to the first half of the book as well, should you guys ever get around to it. And enjoyed spending an hour with the both of you and the Monsters half of the book.
(additional comment) Just realized, how did Marvel go from arguably the most original and diverse aliens in comics...to the Kree and Sh'iar? And even the Skrulls by comparison.
Vince Coletta is good at inking. In my opinion an insane amount of comics where ruined by colouring and still are till today.
You guys should do a video on that spawn artist editions. I believe that have 2 volumes so far
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Cartoonist Kayfabe ohh didn’t realize you guys did it already. Thanks!
Kirby Rules!!!! Ever!!!!
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Is it 14 X 22...? Looks massive...!! I already knew modern comics are generally 11 X 17 Bristol Board reduced to a 6.95 X 11 Comic Page. You can buy Strathmore 11X17 Bristol Board pads at Michaels, and Kubert school sells them pre-ruled. But I didn't know they used larger Bristol Board before that.
Channel Z - From what I've gathered, I think the reason that original comic art went to 11 x 17 was due to the coming of the Xerox machines!
Anyone know how many pages per month Kirby drew during his most productive years?
Hello Eddie P and jimmy love the vids and comics keep it up wanted just to say thank you
And ask what do you guys think of Big little books ?
Keep up the good work ,Ronin from Boston Ma.............
"His 70's stuff was better...". ? Nothing about the 70's is better. Kirby peaked in the mid sixties, even with the outrageous workload. Which makes him greater still. I'm a bit weary of the Bronze Agers constantly citing Royer at the expense of Frank Giacoia and others. Giacoia takes a back seat to no one in regards to texture and folds. People underestimate Stone. His brushwork was incredibly adroit and unerring. A draughtsman. @10:00: That's Paul Reinman. @11:58: That's not Colletta either. It's credited to Sol Brodsky, but I see Bill Everett or possibly Mike Esposito. 15:28. Don Heck inked that.
Got silver border x-men #1 Lol
11th
Jack Kirby and Steve Ditko are the true creators of Marvel Universe Stan Lee was a liar and a disgrace for what he did and taking credit from these creators