Are These BANNED Retro Wheels Faster Than Modern Carbon?

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  • čas přidán 20. 08. 2024

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  • @gcntech
    @gcntech  Před rokem +9

    Do you prefer retro or modern wheels? 🛞 Let us know in the comments below! 👇

    • @robinburt5735
      @robinburt5735 Před rokem +3

      i have normal aluminium wheels on a hybrid bike, so i guess i prefer retro?

    • @bicyclist2
      @bicyclist2 Před rokem +4

      Retro all the way. I remember wanting these very badly. And still do. Maybe some day. Thanks.

    • @The2808erik
      @The2808erik Před rokem +2

      Modern illegal wheels.

    • @billkallas1762
      @billkallas1762 Před rokem

      Almost all my wheels are hand built. Training wheels use mostly open pro rims, and race wheels are laced with either Mavic GL330's, or Wolber Aubisque. I still have tubular rims, like those, that I never built up.

    • @lisashiela9137
      @lisashiela9137 Před rokem +1

      Retro, love my Zipp (hooked) 404's@!

  • @JonCannings
    @JonCannings Před rokem +163

    Give me the banned stuff any day. I don't race. The rules don't matter to me

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před rokem +16

      #Banned

    • @FL-ym6hm
      @FL-ym6hm Před rokem +1

      You always keep it real Jon 👍

    • @ndennan67
      @ndennan67 Před rokem +10

      UCI has no jurisdiction here

    • @sopwerdna
      @sopwerdna Před rokem +2

      Generally, 100% agree... i think this is a bit of an exception since these were also prone to spontaneously exploding at high speeds because of weird vibration resonance!

    • @chrismadge7292
      @chrismadge7292 Před rokem +1

      I had a pair of spinergy wheel when they first came out. I found them slow and heavy, my Campag shamals were better.

  • @joelperegrinefilms3475
    @joelperegrinefilms3475 Před 8 měsíci +6

    I own 8 sets. The first pair I purchased in ‘96. I use them as daily trainers and had my best race times when a front was paired with a solid disc rear. My son rides a set with fixed-rear conversion. No issues though I’ve needed to have one freehub rebuilt. With all of the experience I have riding Spinergy wheels I’d sell them all in a heartbeat if for any reason I thought I was putting myself or my son in danger by riding them.

    • @Motorcykey
      @Motorcykey Před 3 měsíci

      I have 2 pairs. 1 for gravel. 1 for xc. My only mechanical issue was when barn mice tride and failed to chew through the cloth pbo spokes. The wheel stade true. Spinergy voodoo is real.

  • @CrapKerouac
    @CrapKerouac Před rokem +44

    They both looked great, maybe Spinergy should release an updated pair?

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před rokem +1

      We'd be excited for those! 👀

    • @seimiekfumakaka
      @seimiekfumakaka Před rokem +2

      They updated it with some kind of nylon or Kevlar spokes , the X remain on colors they use on the spokes .
      Hey Alex do a video with Ollie racing one on the x spinergy and you ok the new spinergy!

  • @owensnicholas
    @owensnicholas Před rokem +14

    I did see a Spinergy wheel fail suddenly and catastrophically in a crit race. It was in the late 90s in Burlington, VT. It would have been 1998 or 1999. The pile-up took out a good portion of the field

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před rokem

      Oo-err 😬

    • @tbz1551
      @tbz1551 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Haven’t we all seen a wheel fail during a race though? Not sure the Rev x 2nd gen on ever failed more than normal spoked wheels failed.

    • @owensnicholas
      @owensnicholas Před 11 měsíci

      @@tbz1551 you may be right. I have no idea.

    • @owensnicholas
      @owensnicholas Před 11 měsíci

      @@tbz1551 I have no real information on comparative failure rates between the hundreds of different models made since then. You could be right. I just shared that one anecdote. I expect that similar anecdotes are how that wheel got its reputation. Is it really deserved? I have no idea. They sure look cool.

  • @mcfly3510
    @mcfly3510 Před rokem +5

    I used to ride these rims. I rode them in trainings and races as long as they were allowed. Never had an technical issue and they looked great with the first carbon frames out there. I would die for an updated version, even if would only be for the looks.

  • @muromango4415
    @muromango4415 Před rokem +2

    I ride the Spinergy Rev X (in size 26") on my single speed (48:13 ratio) every day. I weigh 86 kg, with clothes, street shoes, keychain, purse, etc., easily 90 kg. There is not a single report that the 26" wheels broke. Yes, the Spinergy 28" wheels were defective at the beginning of production. But over time it was fixed and improved. The 26" wheels have no defects, look at the MTB area, there are also no defects in the 26" size.

  • @bicyclist2
    @bicyclist2 Před rokem +8

    I love the look of these Spinergy wheels. I remember when they came out. Everyone wanted a pair. They still look great even after all these years. I still want a pair very badly. I still hope to save up enough to buy a pair some day. I don't really care if the newer more modern wheels are a little more aero than these. These Sinergy's come from cycling's golden years (1995-2005). There was so much great innovation back then. Thank you.

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před rokem

      Go for it!

    • @larryt.atcycleitalia5786
      @larryt.atcycleitalia5786 Před rokem

      Sums up the appeal of these things - back in my bike retail daze we had clients bringing these death-traps back for warranty replacement - not refund! Granted, none of these people had catastrophic failures (just delamination or separation of the metal from carbon) but despite our advice to get a refund and something more reliable and safe, guys like you refused and couldn't wait to get back out there and risk life and limb...for what?

  • @brothatwasepic
    @brothatwasepic Před měsícem +1

    The best part is that we non-pro riders get great products that are actually ultra high quality! I just got a tri-spoke carbon HED wheel for $100!

  • @thorthundergod4
    @thorthundergod4 Před rokem +4

    My dad still uses his spinergys on his 1995 litespeed titanium frame bike! the bike is still surprisingly light and the spinergys are quite amazing! I've actually set up his bike to "my size" (even though it is 2 sizes to small for me) and PR/Kom some local segments that I haven't been able to come close too on my 2015 trek madone with lightweight HED wheels

  • @ukshag
    @ukshag Před rokem +1

    I have a set of Spinergy Rev X that came on a Cannondale Super V2000 (black and gold) MTB back in 1999. It was quite the look and quickly extracted $ 1800 from my wallet. The bike and wheels were regularly off-roaded without major incident.
    As memory serves when the UCI ban happened Spinergy offered an exchange program/reduced price on new wheels if you promised to destroy the old set of Rev X's. The fact that the Rev X and the Super V2000 are still hanging in my shed might mean I was not compliant with this request. The UCI has no jurisdiction over my shed.
    This video has inspired me to put the two back together and go to the top of next project list!

  • @thepsychobilly88
    @thepsychobilly88 Před rokem +30

    I just got myself a Cinelli Super Corsa frame paired with a circa 2001 Campagnolo Record groupset. Spinergy Rev X wheels are exactly what I'm looking for to finish up the retro look :D Congratulations on finding a pair in that nice condition! :)

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před rokem +1

      Sounds great! Have you posted photos of your bike in the GCN app??

    • @jonburnell532
      @jonburnell532 Před rokem

      That sounds bloomin incredible! 👌

  • @brockjennings
    @brockjennings Před rokem +7

    One of the aspects of Rev-X wheels I enjoyed was the whooshing sound they would make when sprinting. Spinergy also offered small plastic bridges you could install between the spoke to reduce side flexing. The wheel graphics were simply adhesive vinyl decals. I still remember OCD getting the better of me and applying clear nail polish to the edges to prevent peeling.

  • @emmabird9745
    @emmabird9745 Před rokem +4

    Well done Alex, very enjoyable. Lucky that give way didn't mess up your timings!

  • @markbradshaw4960
    @markbradshaw4960 Před rokem +2

    What is clear to see is that Alea is now the best GCN presenter. Such a great little video. Thank you.

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před rokem

      Alex is smashing it at the moment! A true bike nerd 🤓We are proud to have him on the team!

  • @bbarber6845
    @bbarber6845 Před rokem +3

    Loved those Spinergy wheels. I never had an issue at all. Sold them and have always regretted it

  • @lightningll2991
    @lightningll2991 Před rokem +14

    Still have a pair from my racing days an still love the sound they make, yes first additions had a bit of flex but they we're comfy. Never broke a blade but the UCI has to ban something other wise they don't feel like their earning their paycheck. Banning things like the Super Tuck and so on which never caused a problem.

    • @Pastamistic
      @Pastamistic Před rokem

      To be fair I wouldn't want to crash in a peloton full of those wheels.

  • @halidaymichael2899
    @halidaymichael2899 Před rokem +1

    I did about 10,000kms on a pair of Rev-X’s (with bridges) in the late 90’s / early 2000’s. They were fast - they actually needed careful pairing with the fork (bladed forks were a good match). Never had a problem with them, replaced them with a famous wheel brand beginning with Z and had much less good times. I still run multiple sets of Reynolds (DV46) and a couple of pairs of Hed Stingers (which I’m too fat to ride). I don’t race, but I’ve kept almost every bike and wheelset I’ve ever owned.

  • @thekeytoairpower
    @thekeytoairpower Před rokem +13

    Instable?... like a horse?

  • @Pagliaccio31
    @Pagliaccio31 Před rokem +2

    A few months ago, I bought a Spinergy wheel for fun. While riding, it constantly clicks and squeaks, and it seems like it's not the hub, but rather the carbon. I'm afraid to ride on it. Nevertheless, it looks amazing !

  • @bikebudha01
    @bikebudha01 Před rokem +3

    I would so love to see a modern version of the spinergy, disc specific. Imagine how fast they would be with the update to modern carbon construction.

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před rokem +1

      How about Cadex wheels? 👀

  • @jimmy80039
    @jimmy80039 Před rokem +8

    Be interested to see if you could make them quicker, the 30 year old bearings must of seen better days. Be cool to see them pimped out with some new ceramic bearings see if you could take back those 4 seconds… or retro-mod them to tubeless somehow and they’d destroy anything else out there.

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před rokem +1

      Ooo interesting idea! pimp my wheelset 😂

    • @AlienLivesMatter
      @AlienLivesMatter Před rokem

      ​@@gcntechmachine some weight away to improve spinergy. Perhaps drilling radially outward on the rim.

    • @SonjaTheDork
      @SonjaTheDork Před rokem

      @@AlienLivesMatter Some of the 4th generations actually had a drilled out inner wall, though the outer wall that you mount the tire to is still solid.

  • @estelja
    @estelja Před rokem +1

    The exploding reference was due to the fact that during a crash the Spinergy wheel would not stay in one piece, which the UCI rules required. A regular spoked wheel would crumple too but no pieces would fly off. Whoop-de-do!? That's the only difference and the rumor was that Mavic pressured the UCI to make the rule specifically to get rid of the Rev-X's in racing.

    • @lunam7249
      @lunam7249 Před 3 měsíci

      Yep!! bribes and $$$$ spin this story

  • @leangrypoulet7523
    @leangrypoulet7523 Před rokem +1

    Owned an original set of Spinergys, as, um, pointed out ‘first time round’. They were also mounted to another retro piece of kit, a Trek Y-Foil
    Likes: Cool look, cool sound, fast
    Dislikes: Heavier than ‘normal’ wheels of the era, awful in cross winds and as I had the first version (with no added aluminium braking surface), awful when breaking in normal conditions and effing lethal in the rain.
    As for ‘exploding’ or not, I can say they do. It took some speed (40kmh) and me piling into a 3” deep pothole in Spain, but 100% the wheel exploded under me. Completely. Other modern wheels would have still suffered but not absolutely fragmented. As a result the bike flipped me in the air and I landed back on top of the bike with my elbow smashing through a spline on the rear wheel. So one crash, two wheels damaged beyond repair, and a lot of blood.
    Loved the wheel, but with modern tech I wouldn’t go near them again.

  • @howardwhite5131
    @howardwhite5131 Před rokem +6

    I think test like this you need to take to the race track to remove even more variables; ie no traffic.

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před rokem

      Not a bad idea!

    • @alexpatonGCN
      @alexpatonGCN Před rokem

      Part of me agrees and part of me says testing in the conditions you actually ride in is the best way. If there's no noticeable difference out on the road surely that's the main point? Are modern wheels faster in a wind tunnel, most likely, but out on the road, where we ride? In my experience, it's marginal in terms of speed.

    • @howardwhite5131
      @howardwhite5131 Před rokem

      @alexpaton6795 But, if you're testing the speed/time differences between components, wouldn't it be best to test them in a more controlled environment.

  • @jimmyhor78
    @jimmyhor78 Před rokem +3

    5:44 Modern wheeled Alex had quite a strong tailwind from the look of the grass in the background.

    • @llleolllolll
      @llleolllolll Před rokem

      He does state that its too close to call for an outdoor test.

    • @mlustosakm
      @mlustosakm Před rokem +1

      Some tests feels like, doesn't get the results planned for the video as sponsorship guide, so the just said this kind of conclusion not showing any data😢

  • @CarsandBikes
    @CarsandBikes Před rokem +1

    I like to see the HED 3 in the comparison

  • @ymbiz
    @ymbiz Před rokem +3

    How did they ride - comfort, crosswinds? And most important, how did they sound?

  • @AC-wq7fo
    @AC-wq7fo Před rokem +5

    Time trial that crosses junctions?
    Er...is it just me?

  • @ymbiz
    @ymbiz Před rokem +3

    Which tires were used, and did they pass the "rule of 105"? If not, rematch!
    I'd love to see how they do at a track or wind tunnel with appropriately skinny tires

  • @robertcamcakezi
    @robertcamcakezi Před 17 hodinami

    i rode a spinergy on my bike back in the 90s for a short time but from 2011 to 2018 was my trademark around the town 😂
    best looking wheels ever.
    now i'm on the Spin Trispokes but still have my old Spin in house along with another one but has the carbon pealing but i'll transform it in to a house decor

  • @user-qp1oo1ls3k
    @user-qp1oo1ls3k Před rokem +2

    Best TT I ever rode was w revx. 25.6 mph for 55 miles

    • @lunam7249
      @lunam7249 Před 3 měsíci

      😳😳😳👏👏👏2:08 minutes @ 55 miles, you a pro!!

  • @kevindawsonsr38
    @kevindawsonsr38 Před rokem +1

    I just came up on a pair of them Rev X on a CAAD 6 R4000 with Record group set. And the bike feels amazing, and it is crazy fast. Best ride I ever had. When you hit top speed coming down hill you feel a little flex. It’s a fun bike.

  • @lukestreet8473
    @lukestreet8473 Před rokem +1

    Loved the phonk ❤️

  • @robp1019
    @robp1019 Před měsícem

    Still got mine but stopped riding them due to so many failing, and some in dramatic fashion. I had mine from the importer, a mate at the time, and had to look at loads before getting really true ones. The amount of returns was scary when you saw them. I saw three explode on the road. Know how much they were each from the factory (Mexico at the time)? £50 each! I paid £140. Sold to shops at £475 and they then sold for £900+. 😊

  • @aemediainc
    @aemediainc Před rokem +1

    I love the revX! I have yet to see a set that fits 11-12sp cassettes. Did you get it custom made?

  • @gezamarics5035
    @gezamarics5035 Před rokem +1

    love the background music for the test

  • @billkallas1762
    @billkallas1762 Před rokem

    I still have a set of first generation Spinergy Rev-X, where the rear was built as a freewheel type. The Rev-X wheel produces a very cool sound when it goes over bumps. The spokes under the bump slap together with a cracking sound after they pass over the bump. If you plan to use them, you need to inspect the spokes for cracks by the rim, every week, for two or three minutes. If a spoke joint fails, the wheel will fail before you know it, resulting in unpleasant results.

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před rokem

      Do you still use the old wheels?

  • @newoldsteel
    @newoldsteel Před rokem +1

    I’ve seen footage of normal carbon wheels failing but NEVER seen any spinergy wheels failing. And if they exploded all the time, why is there still so darn many available on eBay and local markets 🤔

    • @leangrypoulet7523
      @leangrypoulet7523 Před rokem

      Mine exploded on hitting a pot hole. Biggest accident in 40yrs of riding.

  • @somguy728
    @somguy728 Před rokem +1

    This is not a tech story, it's a story about status quo interests being disrupted by new market participants and how that corrupts the sanctioning bodies. Sad, but true.

  • @domonkosscheiling5809
    @domonkosscheiling5809 Před rokem +4

    i ride classic mavic tubular rims like monthlery pro, gp4, early ssc on both of my road bikes. it would be nice to see the difference of very low profile tubulars versus modern tubulars or clinchers on the same bike.

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před rokem

      Interesting! Why do you choose to ride the old tubular wheelsets? 👀

    • @ralphc1405
      @ralphc1405 Před rokem

      Same with the MAVIC Open SUP Pro--they were the strongest clincher rims hand down!
      My 36h SUP's (as I call them) still track straight and true after 25 years

  • @t-mar9275
    @t-mar9275 Před rokem

    I remember when the Rev-X were introduced and thought they were a clever bicycle version of the Comstar motorcycle wheels introduced by Honda in the late 1970s. Honda introduced them as an alternative to the cast alloy "mag style" wheels then in vogue with other manufacturers. The typical configuration was five pairs of broad steel spokes bolted to an aluminum hub at one end and riveted to an extruded aluminum rim at the other end. The Spinergy approach was similar, with the biggest differnces being the use of carbon fibre and an aero profile rim.
    I had a set of Rev-X wheels (650C version) on a Softride PowerWing. They were too flexy for my liking, even in this smaller diameter version, which should have resulted in more lateral rigidity. Going into a turn they would deflect sufficiently to rub the brake pads, resulting in a disturbing loss of speed. After a short period, I switched them out for the original Gipiemme 416 and eventually upgraded to HED3.

  • @billyblanco8106
    @billyblanco8106 Před rokem +2

    I rode Spinergy Rev X wheelset thru the 1990s, long and hard...mostly in the CalTripleCrown Double series...just sold on eBay because new carbon wheels are better, or maybe because newer is always better? But these RevXs took a beating, and never blew up on me, in spite of the abuse by a shop mechanic who tried to "true" one by slamming into a concrete floor...OMG...but they did have a notable lack of lateral stiffness...so be sure to get the stiffener blocks to fit within each blade...stiffer is better...eh?

  • @struancochrane753
    @struancochrane753 Před rokem

    Instable, isn't that where horses live? 🤔 Unstable.....😂 lovin' your work.

  • @karstenmeinders4844
    @karstenmeinders4844 Před rokem +2

    You could have compared the current Cadex 4-Spoke wheels.

  • @mikemurray507
    @mikemurray507 Před rokem +1

    I prefer retro wheels as they're easier to true, which is helpful with the state of roads, you get beaten up less owing to the same issue. I know those aren't stainless spokes and wasn't a fan of the Spinergy design. I'm still running Mavic Heliums on onebike and Hope hub/Mavic Open Pro on another. Probably heavier and less aero than modern but work for me.
    Here's something to experiment with if you haven't already.
    Aero, shallow drop one piece bar/stem set up Vs traditional separate stem and deeper drop bars. Same width, obviously

  • @5tanw0rr311
    @5tanw0rr311 Před rokem

    I had a pair back in the 90’s for TT’s, put the X-beams in to stiffen them up. I couldn’t really determine if they were right for me and could only get 54 min 25’s out of them. Sold them after a season but 20 years on, wish I hadn’t! I like them because if the way they look.
    Tried other wheels up to 1999 then stopped racing. Now.. it’s Corima 4 spokes, 16 spoke Shamals and a Zipp 950 disc. No modern rubbish for me

  • @kevincollins9894
    @kevincollins9894 Před rokem

    I saw a rider being launched over his handlebars when his front wheel exploded. Happened just in front of me. Worst case of chip and seal road rash I ever seen on the guy. The sound of the wheel breaking was similar to a shotgun blast. Kool looking wheels none the less.

  • @coachjohn
    @coachjohn Před rokem +1

    I would like to see the strava segments on the ride compared. Where was the 4 seconds lost. Evenly throughout the segments or all in one segment...interesting...

  • @gavinm717gkm
    @gavinm717gkm Před rokem

    Nice production on this one! The audio is incredible.

  • @markjthomson
    @markjthomson Před rokem

    Regardless of the outcome you just can't beat the Spinergy for looks, sound and all round coolness!

  • @GregorPQ
    @GregorPQ Před rokem +1

    Aliens made the horse!

  • @Servicevelo
    @Servicevelo Před rokem

    I had a pair. When pumping the rear wheel up at a ‘10 in the ‘90’s it diff indeed blow up. It rather shit me up. When I took the wheel back the shop owner said he had had other returns for the same reason.

  • @kevinschoenberger1832

    I was in a CRIT race in about 2001 and was involved in a final sprint crash. A rider was on those very spinergy wheels and they ended up as basically carbon dust. Not sure if they actually exploded, but there was nothing left but the tire.

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před rokem

      That sounds pretty scary! 😳

  • @robertgiles1071
    @robertgiles1071 Před rokem

    I'm still using HED/Specialized tri-spoke wheels on my TT bike, though on calmer days I do have a HED disc rear available.

  • @OGchickentnt
    @OGchickentnt Před rokem +1

    I have a Giant tcr from the 90s and I want a pair of those so bad I don't care if they explode

  • @geoturcotte
    @geoturcotte Před rokem +1

    Great video… i remember drooling over these wheels back then. Did you get a chance to do a breakdown of the numbers for headwind, crosswind, and tailwind?

  • @davidoliver4567
    @davidoliver4567 Před rokem +1

    I hope those are genuine Birkenstocks you're wearing and not cheap knock-offs 😎

  • @screp36
    @screp36 Před 4 měsíci

    Rev X just make you feel bad ass as a old gangster . 🤘😎

  • @princeedmunddukeofedinburg

    That voice was awesome, Alex.

  • @christopherquann3559
    @christopherquann3559 Před rokem

    I rode Spinergys up and down Mont Ventoux once in 2001. Descending at 60 mph with crosswinds felt really sketchy. Otherwise, I love my Spinergys.

  • @mattd5136
    @mattd5136 Před měsícem

    No idea how I missed this so I'm a little late to the party - Alex you have fifth and final generation Rev-X's there (at least the front one definitively is).
    By this stage Spinergy had solved most/all of the catastrophic failure issues and they should be fairly reliable and dependable ... at least as far as 30yo budget carbon fibre can be. Sadly for Spinergy, by this generation they'd already been banned by the UCI and with a limited audience and a seriously damaged reputation they didn't last much longer.
    Rev-X's reputation for exploding was well deserved - they had least four different failure modes that pretty much all resulted in catastrophic collapse of the wheel and the rider getting a faceful of tarmac. 30 years ago I witnessed someone warming up on a straight flat road needing hospitalisation after their front spinergy collapsed during a standing effort. Probably better that wheel never made it to the start line of the 200+ rider handicap race they were warming up for.
    Early, failure prone models were also quite heavy and extremely flexy - forget about keeping paint on your inner chainstays or indeed inside the fork crown. Railing them hard into a corner was quite an experience. Gives an idea of just how powerful Mario Cipollini was contesting sprints with both of his wheels rubbing hard on the brakes every pedal stroke.

  • @jejesj1377
    @jejesj1377 Před rokem

    5:48 what is that melody 🔥🔥🔥

  • @dylanl9532
    @dylanl9532 Před rokem +1

    Probably should have used a 23 on retro wheel.

  • @philipcooper8297
    @philipcooper8297 Před rokem

    The rabbit chopper wheel is back!

  • @Spin_stagrams
    @Spin_stagrams Před 9 měsíci

    I’ve got a set of these on a Cannondale caad 4 in saeco colours. Also have a set of the MTB version that I switch between a couple of my retro rides. I haven’t yet been brave enough to ride any of them..

  • @TheRJAD
    @TheRJAD Před rokem +1

    Could you please tell, how to mount this on a modern 11 speed bike. I was always told retro wheels will not fit?

    • @lunam7249
      @lunam7249 Před 3 měsíci +1

      most everything fits a n 8 speed, the chain has to be thinner and flexible, above 7 or 8, the problem is the shifter cant synch perfectly and is constantly chain vibrating and chattering gear shifting

  • @Levelochef
    @Levelochef Před rokem

    Pinarello wind tunnel comparison video when 😩

  • @arkhamexecutivellc4033
    @arkhamexecutivellc4033 Před rokem +2

    But how did they sound as you rode them? Wheels have different sounds.... Curious! I was wondering if the spinergy sounded different...

    • @spooky8662
      @spooky8662 Před rokem

      They do! Kinda hum as the blades slick thru the air.

    • @lunam7249
      @lunam7249 Před 3 měsíci

      they make a beautiful sound, like is humming whooshing sound....whenyou speed up it changes tone

  • @adccars359
    @adccars359 Před rokem +1

    My v shape carbons are very stable in cross winds 😊

  • @XLIIVideos
    @XLIIVideos Před rokem

    Still riding on Spinergy Xaero Lites .. i NEED a pair of deep rims soon :D

  • @The2808erik
    @The2808erik Před rokem +1

    Thest a modern illegal wheelset like the HED 3 or xentis mark1 or xentis mark 4.

    • @taxi9554
      @taxi9554 Před rokem

      Yes! Jan Ullrich wrong sided Xentis….best thing ever 🙈😂

  • @urbanjungle9600
    @urbanjungle9600 Před rokem

    would love to see some Campag first generation Shamals or Boras tested

  • @bobbysilver272
    @bobbysilver272 Před rokem

    Basically. If you can find decent older wheels then they are much better value than paying big bucks for new ones.
    Who'd have thought.....

  • @spooky8662
    @spooky8662 Před rokem +2

    I've put a few thousand miles on my revX super stiffs. I'm always so surprised by how well they ride and now seeing that they hold up aerodynamically as well it's even more impressive. Not to mention, they're stunning to look at!

    • @Driver8takeabreak
      @Driver8takeabreak Před rokem

      Even the original RevX were pretty stiff and solid. I finally had to retired a pair after a crash that damaged two of the spokes.

  • @Driver8takeabreak
    @Driver8takeabreak Před rokem

    It's hard to tell which Spinergy wheels you have here, because it looks like the previous owner took a bunch of the decals off them.
    There are some great pictures of Mario Cipollini and Saeco-Cannondale team riding these in the 90s.

  • @savagepro9060
    @savagepro9060 Před rokem

    Dear Alex, what is your height and what are the dimensions of your frameset: Top Tube [C-C] Seat Tube [C-C] and Head Tube?

  • @TheHandThatBites
    @TheHandThatBites Před rokem

    Mad how expensive the old CAAD and synergy stuff is.

  • @jordanscott4215
    @jordanscott4215 Před rokem +1

    I just want to know how GCN managed to get an 11 speed cassette on there! I thought they would only support up to 10.

    • @jungsukim2265
      @jungsukim2265 Před 11 měsíci

      12speed enable

    • @jordanscott4215
      @jordanscott4215 Před 11 měsíci

      @@jungsukim2265 I would love to know how you managed this. Even with a custom-machined 11-sp cassette (11-28sp) I found that the chain still rubbed on the spokes and even the 11 tooth gear failed to clear the frame adequately (Cannondale CAAD3 - and yes, working on a team Saeco rebuild). I have an 11-sp grupo and the only hack I've found that works is to take out a gear and its spacer, place that spacer behind the cassette and then adjust the upper limit screw to essentially reduce the 11-sp to a 10-sp but preserve the indexing. It "works" when I break out the Spinergy Wheels for some bling, but every time I swap these with "normal" wheels I have to readjust the upper limit so kind of a PIA.

  • @triathlonsteve9675
    @triathlonsteve9675 Před rokem

    Great vid Dave, glad I do tri and not uci stuff 🤣🤣

  • @KenSmith-bv4si
    @KenSmith-bv4si Před rokem

    Cool Video Alex. I really dig the Spinergy wheels but, I like "modern" wheels better and tubeless tyres.

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před rokem

      Thanks Ken! Have you seen our 'Retro vs Modern' doc on GCN+? 👉 gcn.eu/rvm

  • @wenschobert
    @wenschobert Před rokem

    Could you also test modern wheels having a different spoke concept? (Thinking about eg Xentis Mark 3 and many others...)

  • @dstroud666
    @dstroud666 Před rokem

    I prefer wheels that don’t catastrophically fail while riding.
    Guess I’m just old fashioned like that!
    Alloy rims + steel blades spikes is perfectly adequate for me.

  • @Multistan85
    @Multistan85 Před rokem

    “ few generations ago…” 😭 😭

  • @acem82
    @acem82 Před rokem

    This is entirely meaningless if we don't know that he *precisely* matched tire width to rim width. Given he said "the same tires", I'd assume the tires were too wide for the Spinergy wheels, and therefore the test is invalid. Tires *must* match the rim width so the air doesn't separate from the wheel. Once separation occurs, there's basically no aero benefit after that point.

  • @clarklowe5632
    @clarklowe5632 Před rokem

    Never saw a Spinergy Rev X failure. I did see a Specialized Tri spoke failure at a crit. scarry.

  • @davidadamus177
    @davidadamus177 Před rokem

    I'll take the non-exploding wheels for 200 Alex. LOL.

  • @Real28
    @Real28 Před rokem +1

    Yeah, that 8 spoke design just looks so good. Modern stuff is usually just better but i'd love to see retro made into modern.

  • @Rambling_Man
    @Rambling_Man Před rokem

    Instable is not a word…… 3:56 😉

  • @amarured
    @amarured Před rokem

    Oh look its the rabbit killers!

  • @cra_55
    @cra_55 Před rokem

    You gotta find a pair of 26" ones and give them to GMBN

  • @Motorcykey
    @Motorcykey Před 3 měsíci

    I like modern Spinergy wheels.

  • @MrPAB34
    @MrPAB34 Před rokem +7

    Wow, a Tech video without a mention of a chain, waxing a chain, cleaning a chain, pro/cons of different types of chain lubricant, remove/reinstalling a chain...
    Is everyone there feeling alright?

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  Před rokem +2

      We can talk about them more if you'd like? 😉

    • @chupa_mi_dongle
      @chupa_mi_dongle Před rokem

      Cleat float and setup tips? 💁❤

  • @user-gm6mu8oq3c
    @user-gm6mu8oq3c Před rokem

    Great video once again. Can someone tell me which OSPW Tarquin is using on the Dogma?

  • @guilhermeazevedo1250
    @guilhermeazevedo1250 Před rokem +1

    YEAH!

  • @rickychiu3305
    @rickychiu3305 Před rokem

    😏long time no see your rim brake version pinarello

  • @askmeaboutmattweiner
    @askmeaboutmattweiner Před rokem

    I'm surprised that nobody makes carbon spoked wheels that use Carbotanium so they flex and are less likely to explode

  • @overcookit1433
    @overcookit1433 Před rokem

    I still love both my Specialized Trispoke rear wheel and my HED 3D rear disc wheel, especially the disc wheel has got an awesome sound. As I recently found out that the handling problems that occured when using a 62mm deep front wheel ( a "modern" DT Swiss ARC Dicut 62) occur due to wind turbulences caused by the Oval Concepts Jetstream fork (if anyone is using this, do yourself a favour and replace it - it is a relict from the era when wheels and components were designed for headwind only), and NOT because of the deeper wheel (before I used a Cosmic carbon SSC), I will also use my HED trispoke front wheel again, as soon as I have put in a "normal" aero fork. #askgcntech: could you please test a set of HED/Specialized trispokes against modern aero wheels (unfortunately I live in Germany, otherwise I could borrow them to you for a test ride), and can you please find out why the f*** HED stopped producing its still state-of-the-art trispokes? It is as if Porsche stopped producing the 911; HED is trispoke, and trispoke is HED.

  • @AndrewBushnell
    @AndrewBushnell Před rokem

    When is GCN going to build a modern bike that accepts both disc and rim brakes? Then they could test old rim brakes wheels against modern disc brake wheels. Set up the rim brakes caliper on the fork with one shifter, and the disc brake caliper on the rear with the other.

  • @SHWELL11
    @SHWELL11 Před 2 měsíci

    My Rear is actually split and it happened while riding..