The prospect that baffles Mel Kiper Jr.: JJ McCarthy! | 🏈 First Draft
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- Mel Kiper Jr updates his Top 25 2024 NFL Draft Prospects every Friday! He's finding JJ McCarthy the hardest prospect to rank this year. He and Field Yates dive into what's making the Michigan QB so hard to scout.
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My favorite is when I hear national people say he doesn't have a strong arm. It proves how much they go off consensus instead of watching the players.
If Roman Wilson was as speedy as they say and good enough to wear the #1 then why did JJ never throw a deep ball to him? Saying because the offense seems silly, if you had a high powered tool, you would use it.
@@BigginsInAmericaroman Wilson was good at getting open after the play broke down, but he wasn't the fastest guy. Michigan rarely needed to throw the deep ball, and receivers didn't ever get real separation
1 mph off Joe milton
JJ has just turned 21yr ,I can’t imagine with his dedication what he could be at 25 yr.
It's mind-blowing these guys can't SEE it~
YES, how are people not talking about this? When pennix and nix were JJs age they were not half as good
A back up
@@edisntavailableif he is a backup the starter better be a hall of famer
@@blankname6629get off your knees, if Michigan had an elite QB they would’ve beat every team by 3 possessions
JJ does have a cannon. He can throw accurately on the run too. VERY accurately. Very mature, calm under pressure, all the intangibles teams look for. He can run away and extend plays. He just turned 21. I think he will excel in the pros
U don’t know ball. He cant throw. Good thing we get the chance to see
@@mradam1282😂
Cannon's an overstatement, good arm but definitely not a cannon. His accuracy is uncanny for a college QB, and this year he mastered the Harbaugh offense, looked very comfortable. Barring a disaster, he should have a solid career in the league.
McCarthy was asked to bail out the team when it was third down and long and he succeeded doing that to the level that they won a National Championship.
Great comment! Yes!
Yes. A Qb has to throw the ball on third and long. Lol
They forget how good Michigan was on 3rd down
@@FSamuels20I mean yeah and he was by the best Qb on third down in college football this year.
You could argue that he never got to throw the ball in rhythm because they asked him to throw it so seldom. Yet he nailed it when asked. All the more amazing.
U can also say JJ was never pressured because def was all out stopping the run n oline was amazing. Double sword
I watched every play he made for 3 years. JJ made some impressive and outright terrific throws on the run and even when the receiver as well covered.
Just remember the TD pass he threw against OSU that went right past their DB’s ear and into his receivers hands.
Hard to say JJ's performances were "amazing" given the offensive and defensive lines that Harbaugh constructed. How many college quarterbacks would thrive behind Michigan's O Line? Spencer Rattler? Bo Nix? Michael Penix? Pretty much anybody with a lick of talent. Not saying JJ ain't a top prospect, but the small sample size of his passing game is a legitimate issue, along with the absence of game pressure - that is, Michigan was usually winning.
@@bkm4926 you could but McCarthy was pressured on 30.5 % of his drop-backs, he was 48-72 (62.3%) 8 TDs and 3 INTs. Against the Blitz McCarthy was 78-112 (69.6%) 1144 yards 6 TDs and 3 INTs. If you would like a comparison in 2022 Caleb Williams was the top ranked passer in the FBS under pressure in 2023 he was ranked 175 under pressure or the 5th worse QB under pressure.
Last 6 games JJ had to throw against Penn State’s defense, OSUs defense, Iowa’s defense and Bama’s defense. Did Caleb Williams or Drake Maye play against that many top 10 defenses in their careers?
That's a good point.
He averaged 140 yards those games and managed to throw 3 ints against Bowling Green. Stop it.
Yeah playing against and dominating are 2 VERY DIFFERENT things. In all those games you mentioned did he throw for 350 and 3 TDs with no picks?
And his wrs weren't very good~
@varez1223 Everyone has a bad game. Take away that Bowling Green game and JJ has only thrown 1 interception in 14 games. Caleb Williams threw had 3 interceptions against Notre Dame earlier this season.
He also only played 2-3 quarters for the first like 4-5 games, could’ve gotten more reps, but keeping him healthy and safe for end of season. With combine he’ll be able to check off the questions , bc he’s got more than enough of the intangibles! He’s gonna be incredible
More reps to do what? Hand the ball off?
He also got hurt very early in the Penn State game. He could hardly walk. The coaching staff confirmed this after the season. That's why they called all the runs in the 2nd half.
If you told me JJ McCarthy had the best NFL career out of all the QBs from this class I wouldn’t be surprised. As a Lions fan I’m worried if the Vikings take him 😅
I want the Lions to grab him and sit him behind Goff until he's ready.
The best NFL career? You must be JJs agent to make that ridiculous comment
@@spenser6353he’s probably the most talented at of all the guys highest ceiling 4.5 speed rocket arm and he doesn’t lose
As a Vikings fan I hope you’re right and hope the Vikes can actually land him. Worried that the pre-draft stuff will slide him into top 5 picks.
As a Vikings fan, he's the guy I want. He's my favorite QB in the draft. The Vikings have too many needs to trade away a haul to move up to 3 for Maye or Daniels, but if McCarthy's there at 11 I think they need to jump all over it. Long term, my gut says McCarthy has the best NFL career out of this QB class.
JJ McCarthy will go in the top 10 write it down
I think JJ would’ve put up insane numbers if he went to a pass heavy offense. Imo, he shined often. But he didn’t throw the ball at the rate of Penix or Williams or Nix etc…
Idk man, I love JJ as a QB, but his play works so well in a run/defense oriented team. No reason for him to risk getting hurt when small dagger after small dagger keeps bleeding opponents out. Steelers would be a great place for him
It seems JJ will never get the respect he deserves. I guess winning back to back B1G Championships, making back to back CFP, going 27-1 as a starter and winning a Natty isn't enough. I guess throwing for over 75% isn't enough.....
Yeah,.Kiper and Yates are fools~
Jj McCarthy plays every position on the field and was the only reason for his teams success?😱😱
@@bigchungus2030I watched every game he played in and Michigan never would have won it without him. Just ask his coach and teammates.
That's all good and nice but we're talking projecting to the next level
@@bigchungus2030Without JJ's backfoot-caught pass by Morgan, then a huge throw for a first down, with one of Bama's best - arguably the best - defenders bull rushing him, we don't beat Bama. Remember that.
That system doesn’t help Roman or Jj with stats but they are both good. Put them on Oregon
People can only comprehend numbers
Plus people are too lazy to watch Films and games
Jjs numbers are still great and he barely threw the ball throughout the year. People are obsessed with hating Michigan players.
Everything baffles Kiper, he just doesn’t realize he’s baffled. Comparing his predictions to what subsequently occurs, easily demonstrates that point.
Facts. 😂
As often as he misses, I can't figure out how he keeps his job....
@@YDCFF_ Well, everyone in the NFL misses as often, so I guess he's no different
Michigan fan here ….please Rams or a team like them ..with an older qb in place …draft him. Give him the Jordan love treatment
JJ is the truth I belive in him…he just needs like all QBs ..the right fit.
Mark my words he will be the best qb
JJ still needs a year or two to refine his skills for the Pro game. If he's is drafted by the right team he will be successful.
Heard Denver can be a good spot for him if they move off of Wilson and have a solid veteran QB for a year or two starting then it could happen
And we found someone who hasn’t seen his highlights or watched many of his games
Packers could sit him behind love and that would be a good way to learn
To JJ's defense, he did run a Pro Style Offense under Harbaugh...not saying he's completely ready or polished since this was only his 2nd year as a starter...he definitely needs to continue to develop a bit more just like every other QB...but he's mobile which is a plus & he's a winner...as a Michigan fan, the only knock I can say about him is sometimes he can force a bad throw or make a bad decision but honestly those were rare...he didn't do that all the time...but also he can thread the needle and make an incredible throw/pass...wishing him the best in the NFL & he'll definitely be missed...Thanks for the Natty Title
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Biggest underrated aspect of JJ: he's the calm among the storm. He's a centering force, both literally and metaphorically. And then he will come out and run right through you if need be.
As a Michigan fan, I am biased towards J.J. McCarthy. I think he's one of the better QBs in this draft. He's a proven winner, can be coached, he can make all the throws, read a defense, has mobility but doesn't depend on it, and has the ability to adapt to succeed within the confines of a game plan even if that means handing the ball off more than throwing it. He also comes from the tutelage of Jim Harbaugh, so I think he's well prepared to play in the NFL.
We have seen a lot of BCS winning quarterbacks get drafted and turned out to be a good backup. Doesn’t mean he won’t be a good player but look at Mac Jones.
JJ is going to have the best NFL career in this class. Whoever drafts him is lucky.
Best QB in Michigan football history! GO BLUE! NATTY!!! JJ for President!
The Michael Penix disrespect is mind blowing
I think it's only because of his injury history. Had he never had those injuries, he would be no worse than ranked No. 2.
As a guy who endured a couple knee surgeries in my late teens, It affects the way you develop, it’s always a hindrance. I’m 25 now and while I can still move and do the things I used to, there’s that doubt in the back of your mind that knows one bad move, and it’s gonna pop again. I hope he can stay healthy but It comes down to the injuries.
That's why Penix very rarely ran the ball. He also had tons of time behind that O-line, which helped keep him healthy. I wouldn't touch him on day one if I was a GM. The same ACL on two separate occasions, two years apart is not a good sign. He's probably Sam Bradford.@@reggiebanksrb10
the arm is amazing, but he can't extend plays, you can't take a guy like that in the first round, no matter how special the arm is
The JJ MCCARTHY disrespect all season, going into the rose bowl then the natty against Penix is mind blowing
JJ has a ton of intangibles that are evident on the field. He is a winner. Does everything he is supposed to. Makes every throw. Has some iffy mechanics and I want to see how he looks when his line gets constantly rushed. Needs to sit a year but will be very good if he does.
J.J is the type of QB the NFL likes now. He can make any throw and he can run 4.5 or better. Obviously a great leader and tough as nails. Some NFL team will be very happy.
JJ will have the best career of this qb class. I want my Patriots to draft him
I'm a Dolphins fan and I would draft back and get JJ and Brian Thoams JR and never look back if I were a Pats fan~
I’m a bears fan and I’m hoping we get him. Local kid big bears fan and liked Andrew luck kinda- 5 star recruit, winner. Arm talent here we gooo
He's the best QB in the draft. QB is about intangibles and he has them all.
Your high
1000%~
I’m a Michigan fan and idk if this is true
is cheating an intangible? Hard to rank a guy when you dont know if he is good due to his talent or because they cheated.
Lol what?
What i liked about JJ is dude is a complete leader and team player. He was going for victories anyway he could. If that mean't he didn't make any plays with his arm and they had run, he was game. If he continues with that attitude and his work ethic, he could possibly go pretty far in the league.
JJ is a winner, great leader. Unselfish. And what they said usnt true. 2 nfl coaches know exactly who he is. Both Harbaughs. If the chargers needed a qb Jim would take JJ in the first round over Caleb I bet.
JJ will no doubt be the first QB in this draft to get his team to a SB as a starter . He could have thrown for 350-400 yards a game but doesn’t put stats above the team and winning . He has been the ultimate leader on his teams and will continue to do so .
No he couldn’t have in a run first offense
Unfortunately there is no proof or evidence to any of these statements.
Imo i think he the 3 best qb he’s going too be good in the nfl because u said it he was getting wins without a MHjr or ondunze, i feel like the patriots would be a good fit like a run heavy offense he has good pocket presence and can keep a play alive like a joe burrow or mahomes
Please don't put JJ on the Patriots
@@khrisstake2210I’m sure he hopes he doesn’t get drafted by that terrible Patriots team.
If you don't know how good JJ is by now, you haven't been paying attention. He's got a great arm and can through a football through the eye of a needle. In almost every game he plays in, he's the fastest guy on the field. He will go top ten in the draft, easily.
JJM is super complicated for non football players like these guys and us. But, it seems like former players rate him much higher, not just the Michigan guys. We can analyze stats all day but the ballers see something else.
Theirs a reason harbaugh said he’s literally Andrew luck. He coached luck. Jim knows ball.
I think the bears are gonna find a way to draft him. It makes too much sense
Seems like the perfect guy for San Fran, team player that lets the team play to it’s strengths like running & will be the chosen QB to get them over “winning” a superbowl.
they lost the super bowl in ot but for some reason they now need a new Qb?
The throw to Roman Wilson in the OSU game...
Michigan fan so I've seen him a ton and JJ is a tough rank. Incredible athlete and very accurate but decision making can be iffy. Never wants to give up on a play and doesn't take the easy yards enough. If he learns that part a little better he can be a pro bowl type guy
There’s no doubting his talent. He has a rocket arm, is excellent at throwing on the run, and throwing against the grain. He can extend plays with his legs, but is also athletic enough as a runner to have designed runs and run for TDs. He’s also a GREAT leader.
He has a lot of Zach Wilson in him, I’m talking about the BYU version of Zach Wilson, the one who got drafted 2nd overall. Very similar type of talents. I think he will get into the top 10 of the draft if he has a good combine and pro day.
The only negative I see is, he very rarely was called up to be the guy to win the game. Michigan had a great run game and defense, and they were usually called upon to win some very close games.
McCarthy was very rarely the guy that won the game. For instance, only threw 30+ times in a game 5 times in 2 years, and only threw for 300+ yards in a game 3 times in 2 years. He had 654 pass attempts in 2 years (29 games). Averaged 23 passing attempts per game.
He did maake 75% of those throws tho. He can throw it when needed to
Mel Kiper's evaluation of Tom Brady, "Does not have the total package of skills for an NFL quarterback." You just keep it up Mel...great call on Brady...
Deep QB class. He will be huge success if he can ease into a role in year 2 or 3…which is best for many QBs but often unrealistic to have that time
JJ should go top ten far better prospect then Anthony Richardson
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Wayy smarter~
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In my book Richardson is a free agent
Say no to drugs!!!
Tom Brady didn’t have gaudy stats either. Different era but this Michigan team played the same as the old teams. He’s a leader and will be good in the pros.
Vikings should draft him.
He was in a running offense and people want to say he’s a first round qb. I hope he goes anywhere but my favorite team.
Brady was in a running offense too~🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@matthewmatt5285 lol bro compared jj to Brady.
@@wesyoung9150 And Brady was compared to Michigan State QB Bill Burkebefore the 2000 draft,.
I know there was a Point you WERE making,.lol~🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@matthewmatt5285 I must be talking to a delusional Michigan Mickey Mouse club fan. Enjoy your 1 title it’ll be another 30 years till you sniff another.
@@wesyoung9150Brady and Harbaugh both said JJ was a better QB at Michigan than Brady.
I would compare JJ McCathy to Brock Purdy--he might not be the prototype NFL QB, but he is hyper competitive and makes everyone around him better and should excel on a team with offensive weapons. He might end up being the steal of the 2024 draft if he goes in the later rounds.
Five years from now he will be the best quarterback in this draft.
Yup, the reason why I would compare JJ to Brock Purdy.
😂😂😂😂😂 wtf are u smoking bro
If JJ goes to the Rams to back up Staff for a few years he will win multiple SB's
Nobody wants to go to la. That city is corrupt and in chaos
When everything was on the line how many game winning/game saving drives did JJ lead. That is this kids X factor
JJ is a winner and he doesn't care how it gets done. Great type to have in the locker room.
He’s skilled, he’s tough, and he’s coachable. Anyone who has decent offensive weapons in need of a quarterback (FALCONS) should want a guy like JJ to develop on a rookie contract.
Im a michigan fan and a falcon fan he would be great for us
Same thing was said about max jones and Zach Wilson 😂😂😂
JJ has a better career than Daniels and Maye.
Not maye drake maye is him
He’ll have a better career than Caleb Willam’s, Caleb is a bust
@@seanjohnson2376 Maye is overrated
JJ will go top 10
Mel is clear why the McCarthy eval is difficult for him and his concerns are appropriate.
Of course, JJ McCarthy befuddles Kiper - afterall, Kiper has never played a single down of organized football, at any level. In addition, his prediction rate reflects this fact.
27-1 as a starter at Michigan.
JJ is a winner. And he is only getting started.
I remember another former UofM QB who came in “basic” and ended up pretty good.
a winner cuz he cheated?
@@ericj425 😂
Yeah, for all 28 games…. Old hat bro, move on.
He cheated for 80% of his games and he was clearly the worst player on the entire offense. He handcuffed their offense all season.
I've liked JJ since i watched the penn state game
COLSTON!!! put some respect on my boy lol
Jj will have the best career period. it doesn't matter where he gets picked
Didn’t jump out at you over 4 quarters?? Much of the season he didn’t play 4 quarters! Did you even watch?? Actually watch? Sometimes he wasn’t playing as much at end of 3rd quarters. Where were his elite receivers?? His receivers got it done. 〽️ had 15 wins with a balanced (heaviness to the run game) offense and an excellent defense. All they did (JJ did) is win. He was a great on-field manager. His skills combined with intelligence and grit got 〽️ a National Championship.
JJ McCarthy is going to get drafted by my #GMEN. LetsGoGiants & always GOBLUE-NATTYUP🏆!
As a Michigan fan I can't deny that JJ only needed to manage the game. HOWEVER, his decision making is clean and his running ability translates better in the NFL than College imo. I don't see a superstar but I also don't think he's a bust.
He's Sam darnold in control
He only made simple reads and benefitted greatly from play action. If he goes early, a GM and coach are getting fired after 2 years.
@@NateBee He's not going early, not a chance lol. I'd be shocked.
Prepare to be shocked then
@@KashMonke You think he'll go early? Or u saying i'll be shocked by something else?
I think JJ is like the Brock Purdy of this draft, he’s not the best on paper compared to others, but his team-first mentality and smart, effective play helps his team WIN.
I agree with their points about JJ but what I see with him is pinpoint accuracy when on the run more so then the pocket.. Which can be developed over time and reps and the ability to make a play when the pressure is the highest! He made throws that absolutely had to be made at crucial points in the most important games! He's only started 28 games.. That's a fraction of Bo and Michael P! If he has the opportunity to play behind a veteran for a year or 2 he will be as good as anyone ahead of him in the draft.
Here is a stat you didn’t predict…He wins like Tom Brady…I take him in the first round….To the Michigan haters, think of the trade potential…Top 5…Go Blue 💜
J.J.’s been makinng crazy throws his whole career. It’s the box score slappies who don’t like J.J. So many J.J. McCarthy crirics clearly didn’t watch him actually play. 🤦♂️
That’s Fr. Having watched every Michigan game he’s played in, I was REALLY high on him saying he’s a better prospect than penix and nix, everyone was against me but now look. Clearly people don’t watch the film before they criticize
You can’t tell how good the WR’s on Michigan were because he never had to throw the ball
Everybody hating on JJ AND NIX BUT they might have the best careers in this draft out of all these QBs
The best QB in the draft period
Saying there is a huge gulf between JJ and the top 3 is hubris.How many top 3 QBs have been worth it in the last 20yrs.For every Ponder there is a highly touted Zach Wilson.Even after all the evidence about how tough it is to identify franchise QBs people still make bombastic evaluations about them.A year ago Young was the overwhelming choice over Stroud.
He played behind the best O line in college most, if not all, his career. He had an elite defense and run game the whole time too. Carbon copy his career into the NFL and he would be called a game manager.
So in other words a Brock Purdy?
I was just thinking that he should be a comp to Brock Purdy
@@AMusicnSportsnComedyfan lol i literally just said that too 😂
Laughable. Game managers do not make elite plays and throws at crucial times. Check yourself and watch Rose Bowl again - like bailing out his team with an incredible finger tip catch on a poor throw back pass averting disaster - then throws a dart for 35 yards. Yeah game manager.
@@JoshMayhorne you could put ANY starting QB in the country on that same team and have similar results.
! we like him a lot .. michigan was run oriented .. he wasn't asked to carry the team ., think he will be gone by #16 pick . he's only 21 ...
You basically said that McCarthy is Trubitski 2.0. Very athletic, but otherwise a puzzle.
Get some help~
michigan offense he didn't have to carry it. that line with corum, inevitable
Somewhere between Tony Romo and Blaine Gabbert.
Fourth round journeyman?
All these other qbs have top 25 playmakers but JJ had Roman Wilson and colston loveland I think we should all consider that.
Stop it give Caleb Williams Michigan defense they win 2 nattys 😂😂
JJ McCarthy is by far the best college football player in history. Hes definetly worthy of being the first overall draft pick in the 2024 NFL Draft.
JJ McCarthy is QB3
For anyone to suggest that Penix is better than JJ...go back and watch the highlights of the Natty...JJ out played Penix the entire game and will out play him in the NFL as well....JJ will go top 20!!!
If winning matters then draft JJ!
Kiper acknowledges that it's all about winning but ignores the fact that JJ was 27-1 in college and 68-3 if you include high school. The guy is a winning machine. Michigan runs an NFL style offense so he'll be ready to play for any team on day one unlike a lot of rookies.
Did either of these two question Trey Lance getting picked 3rd overall after playing just 19 games at North Dakota St? McCarthy was a 5 star recruit, won 2 Big Ten titles and a Natty.
Brian Thomas Jr wasn't a highly toutrd prospect to start the season. The plsy of Jsyden Daniels helped him become a 1st round WR.
He is going to be a hit
McCarthy wasn't Elite yet in College. But he is young. 3 years younger then Bo Nix. So much potential to grow. That's what teams will value mostly. If he were 24 and all he showed was his last 2 seasons, we would be talking about a 5th-7rd pick.
Jj is gamer
Sorry but some of his passes were perfection
Football IQ is off the charts. He makes very few mistakes and will make plays when you need him to. Put some WR around him and watch. Think NO Saints version of Drew Brees.
I'd love to see him on the Lions.....BECAUSE He's a baller, and can do all sorts of Good things on a football field.
They said that about tom Brady
Pats going for JJ
Keep in mind that both of these guys had Zac Wilson as their QB 2 in 2021 and had him ranked in their top ten prospect list. Jerimiah had him as the fourth best prospect while Kiper had him at nine. They are about the same as weathermen when it comes to their expertise...
Don’t forget how they raved about max jones also
Kiper cannot talk about Jake Locker. Of anyone KIPER was the one hyping him up beyond belief "if he had come out of college this year he would have been the number one pick in the draft."
Average fan me was going huh?? Guy is only around 50% completions in college!
Y’all remember max jones and how transcendent he was supposed to be and y’all want me to believe jj mcass is gonna tribe in the nfl and never threw for 3,000 yards 😂😂😂
it's literally not that hard to rank him, it's really obvious what he does well and what system he would thrive in
JJ has the "it" factor
He will be drafted higher than 23-24 due to his athleticism and accuracy
i feel like he should've stayed 1 more year in college if he was eligible like there too many good qbs in this draft
at least McCarthy has played for an NFL coach and has a Natty under his belt...but I think his stock will drop only because there are other high profile QBs...whoever gets him, they will be really happy
If Mel is baffled draft Him #1
No way JJ McCarthy makes it past the broncos at 12. JJ probably goes top 10.
If he didn't have such great runningbacks nobody would even mention jj
If J.J is selected by Denver by Sean Payton, I see a perfect match. This is the type of QB Payton found success in Drew Brees. Similar skill sets.
Brock Purdy proved that you don’t have to pick a quarterback as a first round pick. I personally would build an offensive line.
He’s an anomaly
Idiot
Lets be honest, Mel Kiper is about as accurate as a storm trooper
Right or wrong, He will be a first round pick
Remember how y’all talked about Brady lol well will see what happens