Predicting Mario Kart 9's Retro Tracks with Nathaniel Bandy
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- čas přidán 21. 11. 2023
- Scott sits down with Nathaniel Bandy to predict what selection of retro tracks will be in the next Mario Kart game.
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Mario Kart 8 Deluxe now feels like Smash Ultimate, I genuinely don’t know where they could even take the series after this. We’ve hit a point where it feels pretty perfect and moving on will be hard af
i think so too. atleast gir a few years u think they should add more dlc and maybe making it more a collection of all mario kart items, tracks, characters and modes like double dash
maybe they'll do what they did with the 2d mario series
give it a fresh rehash with new artstyle, gameplay and mechanics
A reboot perhaps?
Easy every single track and every single character brought back.
@@PokeTuber33376that's kinda sorta MK8
I really hope they add Piranha Plant Pipeline from Tour as it was the only tour track not to get into the booster course pass.
That should be the one to be brought back, not Athens Dash
was looking for this comment. It's the only tour track to not be brought to mk8 so if they do bring tour tracks in the next mk, this one should definitely make it!!
Only if they bring back halfpipes
Yes
@@geminisfl tf did Athens do to you it’s one of the best courses in the game
Now will scott finally escape the paradoxical black void by talking about the booster course pass on the main channel, or will he buy new shoes
Definitely the shoes
Probably thebshoes since he talked extensively about the Booster Course Pack during Switch Years In vid
Booster Course was half assed, not really worth talking about.
0:00 Intro
6:35 Mario Kart 8 Tracks
16:36 Mario Kart Tour Tracks
27:27 Mario Kart 7 Tracks
31:13 Mario Kart Wii Tracks
35:44 Mario Kart DS Tracks
38:12 Mario Kart: Double Dash Tracks
43:35 Mario Kart: Super Circuit Tracks
47:34 Mario Kart 64 Tracks
51:29 Super Mario Kart Tracks
53:30 Mario Kart Arcade GP?
54:32 Cutting Down to 32 Tracks
58:18 Cutting Down to 16 Tracks
1:08:30 The Final Lineup
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I doubt any 8 or tour track are gonna come back beside piranha plant pipeline if the console is backward compatible. 7 have DS track and 8 have Wii tracks because they can bring improvements to them. 9 can’t really improve on 8’s track and the booster course pass would still be in 9. I think they are gonna have 48 tracks to start and 24 of them are retro. Without 8 or tour we can also have more older track.
@QnjtGWonQNqVsbYyzjx4 the next switch is no doubt going to be a massive graphical step-up, why not bring back mk8 tracks and make them even prettier?
8 deluxe tracks: 😢
@@jockson7574You refuse to acknowledge that all of those tracks were made for Tour?
As a big double dash fan, I’m really hoping for wario colosseum, but I also really want mushroom city. I think it’s a super underrated track.
The Bowser's Castle great also. Kinda cool they still haven't remade the game's best four tracks
All of those mentioned but also GameCube rainbow road is my goat pick, would love it.
I feel the only way they can top 8 Deluxe is to add more modes, like a Double Dash mode, because in terms of track count they set the standard very high
also more customization and battle mode
Most of the Booster tracks are mediocre or average, quality over quantity. I'll take a Lost Woods or Mount Wario over anything in the BP
two mode ideas:
-wonder mode
-knockout mode (24 players)
they need to also add back old items like the thunder cloud, fake item box and POW block.
Prediction: the next Mario Kart will be called X, not 9
Ah, classic Nintendo. Always making absolutely no sense.
Wouldn't that be for the 10th game (not counting tour)
@@Bryce_the_Woomy_BoiTrue, but that wouldn't be Nintendo.
Sound prediction, though this is Nintendo we’re talking about, not Sony.
NEW Mario Kart U
We will probably see the next Mario kart game in the Mario wonder style since they usually follow the mainline games. Maybe make use of wonder flowers to change up the course obstacles. Like for example lap three on a course you hit the flower and the pipes on the side start moving around blocking areas. Stuff like that
Lakeside park would go crazy with the volcano being a wonder effect
hmmm, like the Bowser attack in Bowser's Fury maybe? @@TrainWreckYT
The tour ‘nitro course’ in the next mainline game will be Piranha Plant Pipeline, I’ll bet on that now! Yet to be on a console so makes the most sense!
Hoping for Airship Fortress, Rainbow Road Ds and Bowsers Castle Ds
Someone likes ds
I was kinda mad that they picked bowsers castle Wii over the DS one.
@@spiritshadow8084is it much better? I don’t remember bowsers castle ds and I’ve only played bowsers castle wii like once
There is a very real chance that the only DS retro they bring back is DS Figure-8 Circuit. All retro picks (excluding DLC) for the Mario Kart games include tracks that haven't been remade before, and DS only has three nitros left that fits that category: Figure-8 Circuit, Bowser Castle, and Rainbow Road. While DS Bowser Castle and Rainbow Road might get in the way if they plan on bringing back another game's Bowser Castle or Rainbow Road, they don't seem to mind when it comes to bringing back multiple circuit tracks in one game, and DS Figure-8 Circuit perfectly fills the niche of a simple Shell Cup track.
@tippedjoshua6802 I think it was great but that might just be nostalgia talking.
If they're gonna include Tour tracks in the next game, they HAVE to bring back Piranha Plant Pipeline. It's the only Tour track that wasn't in the Booster Course Pass.
The fact they didn’t put Dino Dino Jungle or Mushroom City in the Double Dash section and Yoshi Desert, Cheep Cheep Island, and Luigi Circuit in the Super Circuit section and cut Vanilla Lake and New York Minute is criminal.
I think that we'll probably get 48 tracks total. It gives us a decent enough amount to not come off as a downgrade from Mario Kart 8 and 24 nitros seems like a fair amount of new tracks from a developer standpoint.
For retros I'd love to see something like this:
*Banana Cup*
N64 Mario Raceway
SNES Choco Island 1
DS Luigi's Mansion
Tour Pirahna Plant Slide
*Shell Cup*
GCN Peach Beach
Wii Toad's Factory
DS Delfino Square
3DS Shy Guy Bazaar
*Leaf Cup*
GCN Mushroom Bridge
GBA Lakeside Park
Wii U Super Bell Subway
Tour Ninja Hideaway
*Lightning Cup*
N64 Royal Raceway
GCN Dino Dino Jungle
GBA Sunset Wilds
Wii U Mount Wario
*Bullet Cup*
GCN Sherbert Land
N64 DK's Jungle Parkway
Tour Squeaky Clean Sprint
Wii Dry Dry Ruins
*Spiny Cup*
3DS Wario's Shipyard
DS Airship Fortress
Wii Bowser's Castle
GCN Rainbow Road
This was the most wholesomely nerdy thing I have watched in a long time.
Prediction: Mario Kart 9 will have a gimmick like Double Dash did that changes the gameplay a lot. Mario Kart 8 pretty much perfected the standard kart play and there really isn’t a way to go up from it without it just being MK8 again
Maybe the drill idea that got scrapped for Mario Kart 8.
I hope it brings back the double dash gimmick.
Would love to see cup fusions, for example shell cup last track is wii toad factory and lighting cup us GBA rainbow road the last track of the special mushroom cup would be rainbow factory
@@MDE128yeah, its awesome
They should have airplane karts like in Diddy Kong racing, karts on the surface of the water like a boat and a submarine version where you move through the water and not on the floor
I believe that they should add the driving chapters from the Half-Life games into Mario Kart 9 and also add Gordon Freeman and Alyx Vance and a Vortigaunt to Mario Kart 9
goron Freeman is th cart
Now, I know this is a joke, but I think what you want is a Garry's Mod kart racer.
Half Life(the game) isn't even on a Nintendo console yet. I do think there's a chance of that happening on the next Nintendo console though.
@@popstarrowletGrodn kart
@@ferweenie oh that's ... gore of my don kart,,
as a silly fact about tour, The Yoshi Island track and Bathroom one were leaked for tour months before they got announced for the booster course pass, and don't forget there's 1 tour track left in the game they never put in 8
You mean piranha plant pipeline?
@@SharkRacer5 yup
I think this was recorded a while back, so they probably didn't know that Piranha Plant Pipeline wasn't going to be in the BCP
@@totalradlad yeah that sounds about right
@@totalradlad sounds legit
I would definitely bring back Sunshine Airport, Delfino Square, Wario Collisium, Singapore Speedway, Yoshi’s Island, and Snow Land.
37:30 a cool track they could add is a “Luigi’s Casino” track where you go from game to game, as the games would act as tracks, with the games being: “Mushroom Roulette”, “Picture Poker”, “Mario Slots”, among other games
the track would probably be similar to Mount Wario, in that it would be a one-way, linear, track…
it would be a cool callback to Mario 64’s “Luigi’s Casino”
Piranha Plant Pipeline is the one Tour track that should come back. It’s the only one that didn’t make it to 8 Deluxe, it doesn’t deserve to be lost media.
Maybe they will add double dash style as an option and characters will have their own special items.
In our dreams.
keep dreaming
theyll have special items but no double dash
My best friend and I had a conversation a few days ago about if there were enough fan favorite tracks left to fill out at least a base 16 retro tracks for the next Mario Kart. After counting them all out, we concluded that there were still plenty of beloved tracks from all the games that were prime for remake material (not including base Mario Kart 8 tracks, which goes without saying imo). Here’s all the big fan favorite tracks we counted:
N64 Koopa Troopa Beach
N64 Wario Stadium
N64 Bowser’s Castle
N64 DK’s Jungle Parkway
N64 Banshee Boardwalk
GBA Yoshi Desert
GBA Lakeside Park
GBA Broken Pier
GBA Bowser Castle 4
GBA Rainbow Road
GCN Mushroom Bridge
GCN Mushroom City
GCN Wario Colosseum
GCN Dino Dino Jungle
GCN Bowser’s Castle
GCN Rainbow Road
DS Luigi’s Mansion
DS Delfino Square
DS Airship Fortress
DS Rainbow Road
Wii Toad’s Factory
Wii Dry Dry Ruins
Wii Bowser’s Castle
3DS Shy Guy Bazaar
3DS Wuhu Loop
3DS Wario Shipyard
3DS Maka Wuhu
Tour Piranha Plant Pipeline
So yes, there are still tons of potential choices for us to get excited for in the next game
Would like to mentioned you accidentally used the wrong toad track for wii
@@Jack-H.Fixed
needs at least one snow course
A very interesting idea I've had in the past is turning Waluigi Pinball into a Battle Stage, and adding stuff like even more obstacles including holes in the ground!
I’m guessing neither of them have seen or heard of Bowser Castle 4’s inclusion in Mario Kart Tour. I think BC4 is a great candidate for the next Mario Kart because its Tour rendition got a massive glow up from the original. It’s massive, there’s elevation, unique theming, the slope of steelies rolling towards you, gliding sections, the split path near the end. It’s amazing and almost seems like it was made for the Booster Course Pass.
Pipeline is almost certainly making it in. That's the only Tour track not in 8 Deluxe. They're not gonna let it die with Tour
always a treat when these two come together
I hope Mario Kart 9 has Donkey Kong in it
I'm holding out hope for Toad
I hope Mario Kart 9 has Mario in it
Lakeside Park and GBA Bowser Castle 4 got huge overhauled remakes in Tour and no one remembers. They should bring those back. They were good remakes
Love Bandy and Scott collabs ❤
I just wish they make a giant one lap track we're you travel through different Mario games, like you drive through Delfini plaza, then your at the commit observatory
3D All-Stars Raceway: Lap 1 is Peach's castle from 64, lap 2 is definino plaza, lab 3 is the comet observatory
Nah. Mario Kart is better when it expands upon the Mario universe
i love these hour long nathaniel bandy mario conversations
Scott the Woz Mario kart
Great point.
There’s no way we aren’t getting Tour Piranha Plant Pipeline
Why the hell is no one talking about Piranha Plant Pipeline?? That track got scrapped for the bcp, and yet people don't even think it would come for mk9/mkX?
Never noticed how many tracks wario has in 8. They brought back his DS Stadium and Goldmine, they have his mountain, but also Water Park and Ninja Hideaway that aren't even named, though still clearly themed after him. There's probably another one I forgot.
Every time I hear Scott say Nathaniel, it felt he was calling me 😂
20:45 Funnily enough, data for Tour Nitros that appeared in the BCP first existed in Tour long before their BCP debut. So they might have actually been holding off once the focus shifted from Tour to the BCP. (ex: mob_br for Squeaky Clean Sprint, mob_yi for Yoshi's Island, etc.)
Yes.
usually i don't like these debates on picking tracks or characters for games from previous games, but this is shockingly well done.
A sequel to Mario Games tier list we didn't deserve but needed.
Great predictions!
One track I always thought would be neat: a one lap track featuring all 17 floors from Luigi Mansion 3. Odyssey could also have some tracks based off of it, same with Wonder. Woulda been funny if Wonder's Bulrushes had been in Madrid from Tour for a running of the Bulrushes.
The fact that tracks have been brought back multiple times over generations, i do agree with scott and nathaniel. Anything goes!
I think the base game of mk9 won't have 2nd time retros and only have 1st times since its too hard to include that many bangers in the base game and then do the dlc will be an additional 32 tracks with a whole bunch of fan favorites. Also I have a feeling if tour gets tracks they would be in the dlc and not base game since the city tracks would be oversaturation in a 16 track lineup (which I believe they will do)
Honestly I think they would add 32 retro, so I think your list at the 32 retro tracks is good honestly. Some fantastic picks!
Bros didn't mention Piranha Plant Pipeline for Tour despite being the only Tour track to never be remade 💀
I played Mario Kart 8 on the WiiU at my friends house and loved it. I was hoping for a prediction video like this. I hope Nintendo takes advantage of the power of the next system.
the point behind the dock in Delfino Square is that you can take a huge shortcut if you have a mushroom and basically leap over the water and onto the dock and also get an item there
I hope they give us something really special with the Next Mario Kart. Something us old guys will be surprised by. How about a "Black Box Circuit" with new tracks based on different classics. I want to race on GUMSHOE ROAD! :)
fun fact: when not including cups from super because I honestly couldn't be bothered to check those, there are only 2 cups in the entire series that don't have any tracks in MK8D after wave 6. Those are the Special Cups from Super Circuit and Double Dash, so I feel like those are going to get more priority, especially with how generally well liked Double Dash's Special Cup is.
You know, there are still enough courses currently not remade such that a set of 16 can be made out of them, without more than one Mario Circuit, Bowser Castle, or Rainbow Road no less.
[SNES course 1] (There are a number to choose from still if Super Circuit doesn't count]
[SNES course 2]
N64 Wario Stadium
GBA Broken Pier
GBA Rainbow Road
GCN Mushroom City
DS Figure-8 Circuit (I know, but at this point any course can get an overhaul and turn out really cool.)
DS Bowser Castle
Wii Toad's Factory
Wii Mario Circuit
3DS Wuhu Loop
3DS Maka Wuhu
[WiiU course 1]
[WiiU course 2]
[TOUR course 1]
[TOUR course 2]
I think Toad Harbors coming back because it seems like Nintendos favorite. I also predict the unlockables for the next game will be costumes for the racers
Scott is clearly taking note of the 10-1 start for Toledo
I hope Mario Kart 9 adds more shenanigans to the game.
Like, in addition to 200cc, I want many other wild track modifiers that can be turned on. Things like mirrored tracks or racing through tracks backwards would be cool, especially if such modifiers could all be toggled at once. (Double-dash 200cc backwards mirrored completely-random-items anyone?)
id love to see new york minute improved by having you drive up the empire state building, dodging those window cleaner platforms you see in movies and stuff, before jumping off the observation deck and gliding into central park
For SNES and GBA courses, what if you mashed 2 courses together? So you do a full lap on Vanilla Lake, and when you cross the finish line you switch over to Choco Island for a lap. When you've completed both, that counts as a single lap. Maybe both courses are on opposite sides of a plane, and the world flips as you cross the finish line. Or maybe you're on a mobius strip track that keeps flipping between the two. Kind of like the Mario Galaxy fire and ice world.
How about Piranha Plant Pipeline from tour since it was the only one not to be in the Booster Pass
I thought Tour was technically MK9, since they've been counting every entry so far (outside of arcade).
Here before Nintendo announces "Mario Kart 8 Deluxe + Booster Course Pass" for the Switch 2 at $70
I think that the original Booster Course Pass Tracks (Yoshis Island, Merry Mountain, etc) are gonna have the „Switch“ Emblem and the MK8 + DLC Tracks will have the „WiiU“ Emblem. And if the City Tracks come back, it will have the „Tour“ Emblem
Merry Mountain was in Tour; It was specifically for Christmas events.
one thing for tour tracks I feel was missed was the 1 purely unique track in tour that wasnt included in the mario kart 8 booster course, I feel like they would have to add that last course in there just so everything from tour can be preserved when it shuts down eventually.
For some reason i was thinking that GBA Luigi Circuit's unique thing was that the track was flooded because of the rain. That would give us an underwater section that would give a turn.
I would probably want Rainbow Road DS. But I think one of the Wuhu tracks from 7 is an amazing idea
22:00 why was this edit so fire lmao
Pipeline not even being mentioned here is a hate crime.
I’d love to see a shortcut in a future version of New York Minute where you go through the Nintendo Store. It’s right in Rockefeller Center, which is already included in the course
Pretty happy with your final list, though I would add back in Wario Shipyard and cut DK Mountain
A Tour track that I kinda hope returns is Piranha Plant Pipewline as that track is trapped in Tour
Mario Kart X: You have *every* cup from *every* game, on the select screen, you pick which game you wanna play, and then you can play a cup from that game. I can play Wii Mushroom Cup and then play N64 Shell Cup and so on. Every Nitro Course in Mario Kart History
Give me airship fortress, mushroom bridge,gcn Bowser's castle,gcn rainbow road,wario coliseum, toad's factory
I have an idea that I loosely thought about, that being the theme of "Extreme sports" will the game called "Mario Kart: Xtreme". with the gimmick being simular to DK racing but with an twist of that it follows the same rules as the Antigravity ramps/tracks.
Sunshine airport is a must. My fav from 8
Mission mode comeback would be cool! And the missing DS tracks were the best ones in that game, so if they come back I’ll be screaming :D
This is perfect for someone like me who just entered their Mario Kart obsession.
i have a strong opinion about super circuit rainbow road, and its that it has a LOT of potential. in terms of super circuit tracks, it was definitely one of the more complex and interesting ones, especially with its alt path near the end with the boost panels. and seeing what mk8 did with the other super circuit tracks, i think they could do an amazing remake of it. plus, the paper mario bowsers castle in the background would be amazing to see in hd
I would choose Ninja Hideaway over Athens Dash for a tour pick. Its my favorite mario kart track of all time so I am very biased, but it also feels the most in place compared to a city track and some of the other wackier tour nitros. Out of all of them I think Ninja Hideaway screams "Make me a retro track" the loudest, plus there's a lot of room to stick in a new gimmick or two. Athens is a great track but it's really weird as the only non mario universe pick in the lineup
38:13 it's so funny you brought that up "cult classic" i have always seen double dash like that. I've been into mario kart since i was a kid, briefly played snes, but mario kart 64 was where i really got into it. I've played every mario kart game religiously /except/ double dash which i've never played! ironic because I loveddd the gamecube
I think it bugs me that there's two characters. it's like, I want to drive solo lol
No idea when this was filmed but they definitely should've waited till after wave 6
Was this recorded before the last wave of the Booster Course pack DLC?
With retro tracks going up to Mario Kart 8, these are 4 from each game I'd pick. But for the sake of not making it too repetitive, I've left out all the retro track from Mario Kart 8 Deluxe and the Booster Pass. So with that said, this is what I've chosen:
SMK: Donut Plains 2, Choco Island 2, Ghost Valley 3, Mario Circuit 4
MK64: Koopa Troopa Beach, Frappe Snowland, Wario Stadium, DK Jungle Parkway
MKSC: Cheep Cheep Island, Yoshi Desert, Lakeside Park, Rainbow Road
MKDD: Luigi Circuit, Mushroom City, Dino Dino Jungle, Wario Colosseum
MKDS: Delfino Square, DK Pass, Airship Fortress, Bowser Castle
MKWII: Toad's Factory, Dry Dry Desert, Bowser Castle (I couldn't find a good fourth one for this)
MK7: Daisy Hills, Shy Guy Bazaar, Wario Shipyard, Maka Wuhu
MK8: Sweet Sweet Canyon, Sunshine Airport, Electrodrome, Mount Wario
MK8DX: Excitebike Arena, Dragon Driftway, Super Bell Subway, Big Blue
Yeah, I know it's cheating having the DLC for Mario Kart 8 as it's own category, but there's just too many good ones to leave out in that game.
How was Piranha Plant Pipeline the one nitro track from tour that didn't make it into into 8 not mentioned.
"You know like you know it's like you know"
I like the prediction, I have a feeling tour will have retro in other Mario karts since one of the nitros weren’t in 8 but I hope with the cities they change the routes so it’s not the same as in 8
Mario Kart Tour IS Mario Kart 9. The next Mario Kart will be Mario Kart 10, which could be stylized as Mario Kart X. Then they could do cute little videos where they introduce Mario Kart X and then put another game at the end. They could have 3x Nitro, 3x Retro, and 3x Crossover cups for a total of 9 base game cups, which is 1 more than the standard 8. You could have your standard Mario Kart courses, and then you could have Nintendo Cups where you do a 3 tier track through Norfair, a race around Planet Popstar, laps around the Bionis, and then finish it all off with a terrifying trek through the Submerged Castle.
Talking about Tour Retro tracks and completely ignoring THE ONLY track that isn't in 8 Deluxe.
Come on y'all. Piranha Plant Pipeline is 100% gonna be in the next game.
Mario kart Wonder with wonderseed course warping. They could also add wonder seeds to the retro tracks to keep them fresh
Hey, that's Nathaniel B!
I feel like Nintendo has backed themselves into a corner here.
If they make a new MK game, and it just has 32 tracks like normal, it's kinda like "Pshhhh why would I buy this, the MK I have now has 96 tracks!"
Sometimes I think about how there are probably people who watch Scott’s stash but don’t know what Scott the woz is
Scott saying Wild Woods is "okay" makes me question any time I have ever agreed with him on anything in the past.
36:33 you could use that as a shortcut with a mushroom. Go through the little gap of the fence before the bridge
If this retro roster happens its the best by a mile
I honestly expect a base of 48 tracks which was what 8 deluxe launched with, and an even split of 24 new and old
GBA Bowser Castle 4 got an amazing glow-up in Tour, so that’s another reason to see it return.
49:50 Koopa Troopa Beach is in the background of Sunshine Airport so if that stays the same in MK9 both tracks have to be in the background of each other. What gimmicks should MK9 have and do you think the graphics will be better than MK8DX?
I hope soon we can organize our own cups or even track lists. I have favorite tracks among many different cups. So I’d like if I could just have a cup of races back to back that are all my favorite.
just use versus mode
They COMPLETELY forgot about Piranna Plant Pipeline, that is 100% returning
The one thing I thought of that could compete with Mario Kart 8's scope post-BCP is user created content. A new Mario Kart built with a robust track editor would go a long way to make up for having way fewer base game tracks. The only way I see the track count exceed 96 is when players can create and share custom tracks.
I don't know when this was filmed, but I'm sure they will pick at least the only Tour original track not present in the Booster Course Pack
42:39 the way he says "I dunno" loool
I _really_ want Delfino Square. The music would slap so hard with live instrumentation.