Introducing the Agile Offroad | Fox Steering Stabilizer for the Grenadier
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
- The Ineos Grenadier has a controversial steering stabilizer.
We wanted to address that pain point for many people who drive on, and off-road. Introducing the Agile refined, Fox steering stabilizer. Custom fit for the Grenadier, and custom designed for Agile Offroad with extra strength gold chromoly sleeves.
This Stabilizer has been a hit for customers already, and have flown off the shelves!
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Just installed it - as advertised! Slightly heavier and more responsive steering, tracks to line better, less buffering at speed in cross-wind. Will have to see the difference off-road. I don’t think there will be any kickback on the steering wheel. Nicely done, guys!
Thanks for the love
My steering is fine, I guess it’s what your expectation is. I’ve driven everything from G wagons, Range Rovers , light commercial vans, school buses & articulated trucks .
There’s nothing wrong with the steering in my Grenadier. It’s nearest comparison vehicle would be the G wagon upto 2018 model year , the ineos steering is far superior to the G wagons, may I add and so are the seats , suspension , engine , lights , the overall build quality is outstanding
The stabilizer really comes down to preference! Which is all the fun of aftermarket parts, you can mix and match what works best for you! We don't think that the steering, as designed, is a failure or poor choice. But we do recognize, and hear the feedback of other owners who feel the steering is a pain point! For that we came to market with a solution for them. If you like the steering as is, thats okay, we have other fun aftermarket products hitting the market that might suite your needs and interests better!
I just got mine, and with all that comments in the media about the steering I was expecting quite bad experience, but what was the surprise, the steering is fine and much better than Toyota Hilux 2024 which I have. Yes i can feel that is a bit slower if you make quick overtakes on high speed, but for the moment I don't feel that I have to upgrade or do any changes
Totally! Many Grenadier owners are accustomed to the style of steering from other vehicles. Our steering stabilizer options are great for many different use cases, whether its a client who doesn't favor that style of driving, or wants a more universal drive if they do share the responsibilities of driving with someone else who is less accustomed! Many clients are really excited about our New ATS Stabilizer since it gives them the option to customize the steering where needed.
Hello. Does the factory warranty get voided if I replace the steering stabilizer? I have this part, but I'm hesitant to replace it because of the factory warranty
Nice. I figured it was trail and a 1" lift might fix it, but it's good to know that it's something simple.
Thats what we're here for! To help out, and really try to find the simplest of solutions for clients. Thats how we've built our customer loyalty in the Adventure Van community!
I have a video idea for you. @Agileoffroad you could compare the Grenadier to a W-461 G-wagon.
I believe it is basically an evolution of the G W-461, or a redesign of the G-commercial. The W-461 went out of production at Magna a half a year before Ineos went into production. I also believe Magna produced the test vehicles on the W-461 line which it later moved to Hambach from Steyr.
@@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080 From what we know its a recreation from the Land Defender! We would love to do a comparison, however our market isnt in upgrade parts for those other vehicles, so we would have to source the other vehicles in order to speak on them!
@@Agileoffroad Yes well Ineos tried to buy the Land Rover factory and Future Parts recreation but Land Rover said no. I think Mercedes realized that they were going to an ifs G wagon at about the time the court cases were on and decided they could sell Ineos the old G-wagon line and relocate it to Hambach France. I think there is a lot of similarity underneath like suspension, and steering.
Can you make a video showing the Fox stabiliser in action. The return to centre on road, perhaps a comparison to factory would be good to see. Thanks
Sure thing! It's on our list for product content, especially given our shop grenny has the stabilizer!
I just spoke to our CEO about this video idea, and he said that we could film the reaction of happy clients, but its so much more about the feel than anything we can film!
There’s a guy on the Ineos Forum who posted a video of the installation and driving experience- he purchased it from Agile about 2 weeks ago. It looked good enough for me to order one
@@ElderStatesman-pi3lc great! you'll feel the difference!
Interesting how "mine is fine" is being used to mean yours must be fine too/your expectations are wrong...
We get it though, some people might just not understand why we came up with a product, and might assume its just another marketing gimmick. Of course those who choose to go the route to modify the steering more to their preferences don't think so!
No opinion on their own car is wrong, but you're right, it shouldn't invalidate the experiences of others, we want to embrace more community support and understanding in our industry.
My Ineos dealer and I are interested - does this installation affect the manufacturing warranty? If not, did you get something from Ineos on that? I don’t MIND the steering - but do notice more road fatigue on longer hauls. I think it’s just those small corrections that you don’t really notice - especially in a cross -wind.
We can't speak on manufacture warranty, I would check with your dealer!
But we felt your pain with that road fatigue, this mod really changed the game for us!
@@Agileoffroad did you leave the caster angle alone in factory setting? I think it can be dropped by 1.5-2 degrees. I ordered one from you on the 3rd - can’t wait to try it out!
@@ElderStatesman-pi3lc If you have any specific questions regarding the install and stabilizer settings give our team a call at 619-328-1297 and they can better assist you! You won't regret the change!
I have seen another video singing the praise of the Fax Racing Series 2.0 ATS (adjustable) which is considerably more money and does not connect up to the factory mounting points. Did you happen to try that model out? My use will likely not include challenging off-road use. In my part of the world it is more over sand (Cape Cod National Seashore). So, if the benefit of spending more on the ATS version is that you can "dial-in" extreme off road characteristic, that is not my aim.
We’ve been working on an ATS solution to have the ATS direct fit to the Grenadier, similarly to our current stabilizer design. Its about 30-40 days out. It'll bolt in at the factory locations, super plug and play! Sign up for the mailing list to be in the loop when we launch!
Does the Fox ATS accomplish the same thing regarding steering feel? I am not hardcore off road and trying to understand which the right one for me. Is the ATS just a better quality? TY
They both help with the stiff steering immensely! If you do not anticipate wanting to adjust your steering stiffness, the Performance series (This stabilizer) is perfect for pavement and off-roading use.
If you don't have stiffness preferences when off-roading, this stabilizer will probably work best.
@@Agileoffroad ty, ordered it, appreciate the response. On your eibach springs does it matter if you have a winch or not? I saw 1.2 rear and 1.7 front option vs 1.2 rear and 2.5 front. Not sure how to choose. I do not have a winch.
@@michaelperry7559 thats a great question, however I am not familiar enough with the springs to offer a good answer for you, reach out to nathan@agileoffroad.com, he should be able to help you!
We just got our grenadier and we're wondering if this fox shock helps increase the steering radius so parking in tight spaces is easier?
The only way to increase the turning radius is to adjust the steering stops!
Neither mine nor the 6 I have had on test over the last. year have any problems with the steering.
So yours fully returns to centre?
@@stevegreen101no it doesn’t because it’s recirculating ball steering box just saying why is it a problem same as Land Rovers is it inducing some sort of PIO?
@Pandora882 I'm not aware that a recirculating ball steering system is at the root cause of the non return to centre issue. Indeed, those just removing the standard damper have already commented that it greatly improves the return to centre characteristics.
If you like the steering as is, thats okay, we have other fun aftermarket products hitting the market that might suite your needs and interests better! 😊
@@stevegreen101Some people like the return to center, some don't, thats just the way the cookie crumbles. Everyone is allowed to have their own preferences, and this stabilizer is for all those who prefer the easier steering! ☺
Coming from driving tractors and old defenders my steering is just fine after 7000m.
You're a seasoned pro! Some people aren't, this option is for those people!