Chris Wilder - The Snapshot Killer: Inside the Wanda Beach murders | 7NEWS Spotlight

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  • Michael Usher joins the investigation on Australia's most infamous cold case - the Wanda Beach Murders. After 50 years, the name of the murderer is finally revealed, in a shocking story of a serial killer whose spree stretched halfway across the world. This story originally aired on June 10, 2018.
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Komentáře • 628

  • @kathyranard9985
    @kathyranard9985 Před rokem +40

    I was a nail tech in the 80’s in Boynton Beach, fl. A client and I were discussing Chris Wilder. Her and a group of friends met him in a bar and they all became friends. Said although they always went out with him as a group he would call them individually and try to get them to go out alone with him. Thankfully not any of them went. Very lucky ladies.

  • @karanfield4229
    @karanfield4229 Před 3 lety +48

    I was 16 and a photographer approached me in the city to meet him later. I told him I will bring my brother with me. He never turned up. I would never have met him alone.

    • @gigigiseleworld
      @gigigiseleworld Před rokem

      Smart 🤓 move. He's no photographer. Rapist... Glad you said what you did. Other girls may have not been so fortunate.

    • @Emy53
      @Emy53 Před 4 dny

      You shouldn't have even considered to meet the stranger with your brother. It's easy to pull a weapon, omit your brother, and now what? Just don't go with strangers, no matter what they say.

  • @GTAFranchise69
    @GTAFranchise69 Před 4 lety +281

    He doesn't come across as "attractive, charming, and charismatic" in his dating video. He seems cold, arrogant, and hostile to me.

    • @michelleadams474
      @michelleadams474 Před 4 lety +29

      I agree with you 100%, I don't know how he managed to fool them, but then they were very young.

    • @jamjohn1802
      @jamjohn1802 Před 4 lety +26

      @@michelleadams474 He managed to fool them very easily by telling them how "stunning", "beautiful" and "top model" like they were ... you know, lots of flattery (whether true or not)! Many young girls and slews of grown women are taken by toads who knows that telling them what they want and/or need to hear gets them most of the time, if not all..

    • @michelleadams474
      @michelleadams474 Před 4 lety +24

      @@jamjohn1802 Yes I agree with you. He preyed on their vulnerabilities and innocence.

    • @Michele-pt6uw
      @Michele-pt6uw Před 3 lety +14

      @@jamjohn1802.. it was a different era completely therefore he wldve bn thought of as a professional looking guy who knew his stuff .. they're young and vulnerable, innocent and wide eyed and so an easy target , yeh i can see how he trapped them plus he took most of them by force anyway

    • @lisabelle7553
      @lisabelle7553 Před 3 lety +28

      Yep. All I saw was a creepy balding middle aged man who came across as full of himself and flat emotions.

  • @laremanpatilan8160
    @laremanpatilan8160 Před 4 lety +94

    The dissatisfaction of knowing that he did not suffer in jail

    • @26TptCoy
      @26TptCoy Před 4 lety +28

      I dont believe they suffer in jail, they just readjust their lives, Waste of money maintaining them.

    • @fredajordan5704
      @fredajordan5704 Před 3 lety +6

      @@26TptCoy I totally agree.

    • @quanbrooklynkid7776
      @quanbrooklynkid7776 Před 3 lety +3

      @@26TptCoy damn

    • @Retroscoop
      @Retroscoop Před 7 dny

      That's not the role of prisons. The satisfaction he will not make more victims.

  • @WorkoutintoThe5D
    @WorkoutintoThe5D Před 3 lety +255

    That Australian judge that let him free on bail has blood on his hands.

    • @JohnDavis-yz9nq
      @JohnDavis-yz9nq Před 3 lety +24

      @MurkedlikeJ wow Einstein how long did it take to come up with this dumb as a box of rocks comment?

    • @Enlight_Entertain
      @Enlight_Entertain Před 3 lety +27

      Not to mention lawyers who represented him.

    • @vivi-vw8jd
      @vivi-vw8jd Před 3 lety +11

      @MurkedlikeJ I don’t even know where to begin with your stupidity.

    • @endosmokingtv3391
      @endosmokingtv3391 Před 3 lety +3

      @MurkedlikeJ WTF 😒😑

    • @hazydog5387
      @hazydog5387 Před 3 lety +5

      Absolutely

  • @douglasbarton6597
    @douglasbarton6597 Před 4 lety +56

    He was a beach bum in Australia, arrived in Miami with a suitcase, became a building contractor, raced his own porsche, where did all his money come from?

    • @douglasbarton6597
      @douglasbarton6597 Před 4 lety +6

      @Brian Jones Was that real estate given to him or did he buy it?

    • @saraporter9716
      @saraporter9716 Před 4 lety +8

      There is a book called the pretty girl killer. It's about this

    • @cincin4515
      @cincin4515 Před 2 lety +2

      Good question. I'd like to know too.

    • @gigigiseleworld
      @gigigiseleworld Před rokem +2

      Probably made friends with the right people??

    • @nancyp4337
      @nancyp4337 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Good question!! Maybe he knew some wealthy people in high places? A judge for example??

  • @catman8670
    @catman8670 Před 3 lety +61

    The judicial system doesn’t work, no matter the country

    • @blaquentgruppe6547
      @blaquentgruppe6547 Před 3 lety

      Oh law * constitutional lawyer

    • @luvgingham
      @luvgingham Před měsícem

      It only works for Democrats

    • @UnknownUser-j3n
      @UnknownUser-j3n Před 23 dny

      Why are they blaming the law. Just because its his sister who died? Why not raise your voice for others. If everyone did that, the system wouldn't be so slack. But everyone just wants to do things as per their own convenience, as does the police. So i would say they suit each other.

  • @josielewis9465
    @josielewis9465 Před 4 lety +179

    RIP those two innocent sweet 15 year old girls - so tragic. Also all the victims known and unknown of this monster.

    • @antoniafaheerty6980
      @antoniafaheerty6980 Před 4 lety +20

      Im guessing he is responsible for many more than is linked to him.

    • @Fay_F_2
      @Fay_F_2 Před 3 lety +13

      Pure evil ! Unimaginable . Poor victims

    • @andrew_koala2974
      @andrew_koala2974 Před 3 lety +4

      They were NOT old.
      They were age 15
      Learn that people and animals live through the 'ages'
      it is THINGS that become OLD.
      Such as your shoes - your refrigerator - your car - your house .
      Think for example teen-age years.
      The clues are in front of your eyes but lik ea zombie you have eyes and cannot see.
      For your homework make a list of all the ages Mankind has lived through.
      Begin with Ice age - Stone Age - Bronze age and so on.
      When you have finished that. explain the difference between ON and on
      I would suggest you do not know that either, because you were never taught
      and failed to later educate yourself.
      Go and examine what is written on many switches otherwise known as Switchgear
      is it ON or is it on ?
      You saw it but never gave it any thought.

    • @SassySarrie
      @SassySarrie Před 2 lety

      @@galactdroid4421 Ikr!?

    • @gigigiseleworld
      @gigigiseleworld Před rokem

      @@antoniafaheerty6980 He traveled to many countries. Especially here in the USA..in the 1980's.

  • @axedog1395
    @axedog1395 Před 3 lety +137

    The Australian police involved should be held responsible for letting him go.

  • @mariej6962
    @mariej6962 Před 4 lety +84

    One good reason why people take matters into their own hands

  • @WindDancer435
    @WindDancer435 Před 4 lety +193

    This woman Linda Grover was very brave and smart to try to gouge his eyes out in an effort to save her life.

    • @hippiebits2071
      @hippiebits2071 Před 4 lety +34

      I find it particularly unfortunate that she was still attacked and subjected to all of that inspite of not falling for his ruse...REALLY resilient lady apparently.

    • @poppyfield1619
      @poppyfield1619 Před 3 lety +24

      She was incredibly brave in spite of her torture and sexual abuse, she managed to fool him into thinking she had been knocked out then attacked him! Wow it baffles me how she kept a clear head throughout a terrifying ordeal. Bless her heart. One amazing young woman!

  • @zukosmom3780
    @zukosmom3780 Před 3 lety +44

    All these young girls were let down by the police and the court system who were supposed to protect them

  • @BaDazai
    @BaDazai Před 3 lety +81

    Wow Australia, they gave him back his passport whilst he was on bond? Why did they even do that?

    • @markfurney3670
      @markfurney3670 Před 3 lety +13

      I'm confused as well about this. Only the judge can explain this one

    • @michaeltuffin5002
      @michaeltuffin5002 Před 3 lety +12

      Bc we have some horrible judges.. really putrid people

    • @slydoll7877
      @slydoll7877 Před 3 lety +8

      Same reason the US judge let him leave the USA for Australia. Stupidity.

    • @SamStone1964
      @SamStone1964 Před 3 lety +12

      And his own parents in Australia bailed him out allowing him to return to America.

    • @beaulieuc8910
      @beaulieuc8910 Před 2 lety +3

      @@SamStone1964 terrible parents

  • @diplomamilldoc8562
    @diplomamilldoc8562 Před 2 lety +21

    Name the judge and defence lawyers who let this guy go free

  • @bean3162
    @bean3162 Před 2 lety +39

    It's possible that I encountered this monster. I was 19 and working at a mall in Tampa, it was 1984....March. A man approached me, telling me how beautiful I was and that I was model material. He was charming and I was not fearful. He said he wanted to take headshots. I was flattered and thought he had a studio in the mall. When he told me that we needed to go to his car, I hesitated. As a people pleaser at that young age I felt bad turning down the offer after all the compliments, but trusted my gut and did not leave the mall with him. His nice persona got quite pushy at that point. I walked away, thank GOD. No way to know for sure, but the timeline matches up.

    • @ellenmcaleese7004
      @ellenmcaleese7004 Před rokem

      Is Tampa near Cronulla?

    • @annettelacey7913
      @annettelacey7913 Před rokem +1

      ​@@ellenmcaleese7004 theres no tampa in australia do must be the US

    • @ellenmcaleese7004
      @ellenmcaleese7004 Před rokem +4

      Thanks for clarifying Annette. Frightening that this man was able to harm people across two continents.

    • @alysononoahu8702
      @alysononoahu8702 Před rokem

      ​@@ellenmcaleese7004 the perp escato the USA

  • @loretta_3843
    @loretta_3843 Před rokem +13

    Their dad had died less than 2 years prior and then their sister is murdered in such an awful, awful way? I can't believe what some people have had to deal with. The trifles that I complain about... You really need to count your blessings and make sure you let those important to you, know you appreciate them, that you value them and have kindness for others. I pray no one watching this ever goes through such horrors.

  • @max748195
    @max748195 Před 3 lety +52

    The courts of this country have a lot to answer for.

    • @ceruleanc505
      @ceruleanc505 Před 3 lety +4

      This⬆️

    • @betzybrethour334
      @betzybrethour334 Před 2 lety +3

      Courts don’t care if they messed up , same with law enforcement, they are above the law

    • @simonetaylor7474
      @simonetaylor7474 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Not just this country!
      America didn't lock him up in the yrs of '71-'80 after he'd committed many disgusting acts towards many women, he was arrested, but NEVER locked up and was allowed to leave the US and come bk here to commit more crimes!! So I think both countries judicial systems have a lot to answer for!!

  • @KOKOAXXXable
    @KOKOAXXXable Před 3 lety +39

    Whats wrong with ppl saying he is good looking , charming n what not...he is none of the above..hes jst boring and forgettable...mayb a little creepy even.

    • @Sammy-mp9xn
      @Sammy-mp9xn Před 3 lety +3

      I say, Very Creepy!

    • @deevillarreal9475
      @deevillarreal9475 Před 2 lety

      Looks like a serial killer to me, creeper 🤢 I'll give him a chance and watch the case. But those eyes are cold ones.

    • @kidnplay3978
      @kidnplay3978 Před rokem +1

      The actor that played him in the FBI Files dramatization was pretty handsome and looked nothing like him. Maybe that confuses people.

    • @kylieknight2365
      @kylieknight2365 Před rokem +3

      Your forgetting how long ago it was and the real man not the actor was considered good looking and charming, the same as Ted Bundy and look what happened there.

    • @skramamme685
      @skramamme685 Před rokem

      Are you referring to the victims?

  • @davidhynes9683
    @davidhynes9683 Před 3 lety +56

    The eyes are the window of the soul, that's not madness that's evil.

  • @fairmaiden6472
    @fairmaiden6472 Před 3 lety +75

    These poor siblings have lived with this all of their lives. 56 years later and theyre still prone to tears on speaking, Horrific. This case and the Beaumont Children case have both always fascinated me

    • @shekriptic2851
      @shekriptic2851 Před rokem +5

      Fascinates you?
      Not mortified? .. 😯

    • @Lionfellow
      @Lionfellow Před rokem

      Well at least it fascinates you. How wonderful

    • @MurrayJoe
      @MurrayJoe Před rokem

      Derek Percy is more likely to be the murderer of the Wanda Beach girls and the Beaumont children as well as 5 other child murders.

    • @charmaynebruce6215
      @charmaynebruce6215 Před 11 měsíci +3

      Oh you both know what she means! 🙄🙄

  • @lisamichelle8413
    @lisamichelle8413 Před 3 lety +103

    Apologies to our American family on behalf of Australia .. our judicial system let us both down 🙏🏻🇦🇺🇺🇸😔

    • @bibiayube677
      @bibiayube677 Před 2 lety +7

      Same here in canada

    • @toniroberts8117
      @toniroberts8117 Před 2 lety +9

      Apologies accepted.
      I have little doubt our system in the USA hasn’t neglectfully let out criminals prematurely that eventually migrated to your country as well.
      All our countries need to work harder at spotting these sick people early on.
      I can honestly say, the very few times (once actually) I called police for help because I was abused…. The police took it extremely serious. They had him arrested within an hour.

    • @qldsafari
      @qldsafari Před 2 lety +2

      And still does

    • @denisezimmerman4208
      @denisezimmerman4208 Před 2 lety +6

      This is not your fault honey.
      Sadly this happens here in America as well.
      Our systems are messed up as well.
      Often times then not Thay are let out of jail or never even go.
      It's horrific and unthinkable. Because these psychopaths will never stop until they are made to stop. 🤬😭 Praying for peace and love for you. 🙏

    • @ziniztr
      @ziniztr Před 2 lety +3

      Xo

  • @Aangel452
    @Aangel452 Před 3 lety +46

    I’m sure he took photos of me on Dee Why beach, he wanted me to do modelling for him and to go back to his flat, I think I was about 19 and said no, he gave me his card and two photo’s that he took. When I told my parents they said no way he could be a predator.

    • @Aangel452
      @Aangel452 Před 3 lety +11

      @Bobby Friday No I must have thrown it away, I only have one photo he took. Yes I had really good wise parents👍🏻

    • @leannmeddings4068
      @leannmeddings4068 Před 3 lety +2

      Are you saying that your parents said that there was no way he could be a predator or no way you are going to model for him because he could be a predator?

    • @Aangel452
      @Aangel452 Před 3 lety +3

      @@leannmeddings4068 - saying my parents said no way was I allowed to.

    • @kittykat8177
      @kittykat8177 Před 2 lety +2

      comma after "no way" solves the confusion of what your parents meant :-)

    • @chateaupig826
      @chateaupig826 Před 2 lety +8

      Oh my God , whats wrong with you all !! GROW A BRAIN , HER PARENTS SAID NO WAY was she going to model for that creep , HE COULD A PREDATOR -thats what it means

  • @antoniafaheerty6980
    @antoniafaheerty6980 Před 4 lety +50

    I watched a documentary about the wanda beach murders a long time ago, I just watched a documentary about Christopher wilder on tv and came to CZcams to see more about him..im shocked now to realize that these cases are connected..shocked!

    • @findlay1arches
      @findlay1arches Před 4 lety +9

      I'm the exact same. I had listened to the first case file podcast about the beach murders and watched an fbi files about him yesterday . And this was recommended. Like you I'm absolutely shocked

    • @alysononoahu8702
      @alysononoahu8702 Před 4 lety +4

      I agree, I've known the 2 cases separately for years... I'm not sure about them being connected yet. First I've heard of it.

    • @rednutbrian
      @rednutbrian Před 3 lety +7

      @@alysononoahu8702 the connection is speculative

    • @nancypiccirillo8900
      @nancypiccirillo8900 Před 3 lety +8

      This guy was very twisted. Very sick man. He left bodies everywhere he traveled. And there are others out there unidentified with the same twisted sickness. Waiting to be caught. It's a scary world when you stop and think about it.

    • @andrew_koala2974
      @andrew_koala2974 Před 3 lety

      Antonia Faheerty.
      Antonia is a pretty Italian name, I being half Italian,
      but I am shocked at your poor English and equally poor writing skills.
      Seriously that is at a peasant level of education.
      Read more books to become fluent in English and educate yourself.
      You owe that much to yourself, or are you not worth it?
      Good luck and goodbye

  • @bonnieenright
    @bonnieenright Před 3 lety +35

    No one alive KNOWS who his first victims were!!!

  • @corneliusdoherty532
    @corneliusdoherty532 Před 3 lety +55

    LISTENING TO THESE LADIES TALKING ABOUT HOW THEY MANAGED TO SURVIVE THAT HORRIBLE SCUMBAG IS HEARTBREAKING. BUT I DEFINITELY “ RESPECT “ THOSE LADIES.. THEY ARE SO BRAVE ... WILDER WAS NOT EVEN A MAN ... A REAL MAN WOULD NEVER HURT OR HIT A WOMAN EVER... I WAS BROUGHT UP BY MY PARENTS IF YOU EVER THINK YOU ARE GOING TO HURT A LADY “ DONT “ JUST WALK AWAY 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

    • @cincin4515
      @cincin4515 Před 2 lety +1

      He wasn't a man he was an evil predator. The 1960's & 1970" spawned an era of really sick twisted murderers in Australia, America and Britain. It was like somebody opened the gates of hell.

    • @corneliusdoherty532
      @corneliusdoherty532 Před 2 lety +1

      @@cincin4515 you make a good few points 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

    • @beaulieuc8910
      @beaulieuc8910 Před 2 lety +3

      well said. They were brave, it is a shame that misogyny can be so dangerous to women

  • @jean-luceyesofyoureyes5502
    @jean-luceyesofyoureyes5502 Před 4 lety +30

    I'm a simple man... I see True Crime Daily and I click. I think I'm addicted lol

    • @Brandon-rq3ys
      @Brandon-rq3ys Před 4 lety +3

      This isn't true crime daily

    • @jean-luceyesofyoureyes5502
      @jean-luceyesofyoureyes5502 Před 4 lety +4

      @@Brandon-rq3ys Oops true stories sorry mate

    • @anthonytraver8037
      @anthonytraver8037 Před 4 lety

      Anthony Traver
      If you want to no more about him just let me no he Wes my uncle I’m Related to Christopher wilde

    • @rambleon3698
      @rambleon3698 Před 3 lety

      @@anthonytraver8037 Okay, well what made him like that. Was he ever normal.?

    • @Sammy-mp9xn
      @Sammy-mp9xn Před 3 lety

      Anthony Traver- - I'm sorry..

  • @cindymcdonald1664
    @cindymcdonald1664 Před rokem +44

    After watching quite a number of these kidnapping, murder episodes I’ve become terrible aware that judges male and female are deviates themselves. How else could you be so, so ignorant as to let these sexual, sadistic animals loose on an unsuspecting innocent populous?

    • @mikenyny755
      @mikenyny755 Před rokem +7

      Deviates or members of secret societies (or both).

    • @TF80s
      @TF80s Před 10 měsíci +1

      Yep, l think the judges in this case probably fancied this guy.

  • @boogiestreet594
    @boogiestreet594 Před 4 lety +21

    Its all terrible, the stuff in america. but the saddest was the girl who refused him. she just said she wasn't interested. and he STILL somehow got her

  • @uppal123g
    @uppal123g Před 4 lety +34

    for a auzzie he has no accent... this dude was a thrill killing crazy pyscho.. you can see it in his eyes.

    • @wisdomseeker3362
      @wisdomseeker3362 Před 4 lety +10

      Sure can see it in his eyes. Dark and evil.

    • @Fay_F_2
      @Fay_F_2 Před 3 lety +4

      Yes he has no accent

    • @jogillett8518
      @jogillett8518 Před 3 lety +4

      His accent sounds american to me.

    • @Sammy-mp9xn
      @Sammy-mp9xn Před 3 lety +2

      He had lived in America too.

    • @kittykat8177
      @kittykat8177 Před 2 lety

      I know someone with these droopy eyes, not in touch with him any more :-/

  • @silverfish8307
    @silverfish8307 Před 4 lety +47

    What is wrong with the Australian police.... they are time and time again totally incompetent!!!!

    • @antoniafaheerty6980
      @antoniafaheerty6980 Před 4 lety +10

      So many lives could have been saved had they acted.

    • @patrickbateman6885
      @patrickbateman6885 Před 4 lety +6

      Well their is Daniel Andrews a serial killer on the run controlling everyone in Victoria and costing people’s lives since 2014 like Apex Gang

    • @sarahwales6276
      @sarahwales6276 Před 4 lety

      @@patrickbateman6885 Gold!

    • @Fay_F_2
      @Fay_F_2 Před 3 lety +1

      I’ve heard that about them before . Idk what Is wrong

    • @michaeltuffin5002
      @michaeltuffin5002 Před 3 lety +1

      Yep. Pre 1996 nsw police were the 3rd most corrupt police force in the world behind Hong Kong and Los Angeles police forces

  • @patmcstuff671
    @patmcstuff671 Před 3 lety +43

    Police in both countries were incompetent to deal with these committed killers back then

    • @evelynrizare2985
      @evelynrizare2985 Před 3 lety +1

      Thats very true.

    • @federica9090
      @federica9090 Před 3 lety +7

      I think it was he idiotic judges who let him go free both times

    • @tonydoherty2190
      @tonydoherty2190 Před 3 lety +6

      The Australian police probably never even bothered to tell the American police about wilder it wouldn't surprise me

    • @redtobertshateshandles
      @redtobertshateshandles Před rokem

      There are thousands of these people in jail. At one time or other they were free to indulge their sick fantasies. Just be careful. They're still out there.

  • @southsideboxing
    @southsideboxing Před 4 lety +15

    YES he's gone, that's so good to hear.

    • @shawndouglass2939
      @shawndouglass2939 Před 2 lety

      Would like to have seen him in prison being Bubbas blow-up doll😜

  • @wisdomseeker3362
    @wisdomseeker3362 Před 2 lety +13

    I just found this video after watching _Monsters_ .
    I wondered how the young girls that survived this horrific kidnapping were doing in their adult lives.
    It's so terribly sad. They are very strong and I hope they know that.

    • @gigigiseleworld
      @gigigiseleworld Před rokem +1

      Probably in their 50's or Early 60's .. with grown children.

    • @wisdomseeker3362
      @wisdomseeker3362 Před rokem

      @@gigigiseleworld Probably so . Thank you Gigi .
      🧡 🎃🧡

    • @sharongoodsell9341
      @sharongoodsell9341 Před 10 měsíci

      It's all screwed up Victims stay victims

  • @skatedd2451
    @skatedd2451 Před 3 lety +15

    It's like this guy was given the keys to the world to do what do you want

  • @visorah9299
    @visorah9299 Před 3 lety +30

    why did he spare tina marie? it sounded like he actively chose to let her go too and not just forgot about her. i can't really believe he felt anything for anyone, he seems like a psychopath.

    • @evangelene12
      @evangelene12 Před 2 lety +11

      Because she actively helped him find victims. even though she could have used the opportunity to escape instead. I always felt there was not something quite right about her either.

    • @mindyourbizok
      @mindyourbizok Před rokem +2

      ​@@evangelene12
      I agree.

    • @pip7967
      @pip7967 Před 11 měsíci

      he wanted for her to write a. book about it. he probably told her his life story during the 6days he kidnapped her

    • @lois2997
      @lois2997 Před 4 dny

      @@evangelene12 she was a sexual abuse victim. She knew about predators

  • @emmestein
    @emmestein Před 3 lety +14

    I can't be the only one noticing how the lady at 14:21 has her eyes wide open? She does it for most of the interview and it really freaks me out.

    • @TheLadyDiazepam
      @TheLadyDiazepam Před 3 lety +7

      Lol you're looking at a bad facelift or some other botched cosmetic surgery. A lot of women in Flori-duh have more money than sense.

    • @shawndouglass2939
      @shawndouglass2939 Před 2 lety

      Now that you mention it, yeah, kinda creepy😞

  • @elobum6383
    @elobum6383 Před 3 lety +9

    Why hasn't the judge that changed his bail been arrested he obviously knew him or was paid

  • @Erebus.666.
    @Erebus.666. Před rokem +12

    Miss Grover is amazing. Well done that woman. Getting away from her monster like that. And not letting him ruin the rest of her life. Impressive and inspiring.

  • @hughiedavies6069
    @hughiedavies6069 Před 3 lety +13

    What a disappointing end. Basically he got away with all of it. He didn't have to face justice and the victims were let down by the police and the courts !

    • @andrew_koala2974
      @andrew_koala2974 Před 3 lety

      It is POLICE and COURTS
      not
      police and courts
      You are not yet fluent in the English language and have a poor understanding of it.
      Also you are not observant
      Nor do you know why these and other words are in ALL CAPS
      CORPORATE names are also in ALL CAPS for a specific reason.
      The education system got away with not teaching you correctly, and
      they were still paid for what they failed to delver.
      That was a crime against thou.
      Explain the difference between Thou and You.
      I know you cannot do it, yet my former students know.

    • @xPlaguefearx
      @xPlaguefearx Před 2 lety +2

      @@andrew_koala2974 No moron, both are fine.

    • @cincin4515
      @cincin4515 Před 2 lety +2

      @@andrew_koala2974 oh the English literature checker loose in the comments again?

    • @passionfruitprincess
      @passionfruitprincess Před rokem

      @@andrew_koala2974 CALM DOWN keyboard warrior!

  • @Aangel452
    @Aangel452 Před 3 lety +23

    Why didn’t news media put out a public broadcast warning about this killer after 4 girls found murdered, for anyone approached by this man to do modelling, to get away and contact police.

    • @gigigiseleworld
      @gigigiseleworld Před rokem +2

      Smaller News outlets depending on the police to give them the headlines. There was no Social Media, Internet, Cellphone 📱.. Same with the Jeffrey Dahmer...

    • @Aangel452
      @Aangel452 Před rokem

      @@gigigiseleworld ok

  • @amberthomson4813
    @amberthomson4813 Před 3 lety +8

    Good for you Linda. Words to live by...

  • @sharonharding3478
    @sharonharding3478 Před 4 lety +21

    Never heard of this man 👨 what a monster 👾

    • @gigigiseleworld
      @gigigiseleworld Před rokem

      Big in the 1980's... Except the 1980's had them all across the Country..

  • @shnuppyable
    @shnuppyable Před 3 lety +16

    It’s criminal what the cops did seriously if they can’t or couldn’t be bothered to do the job properly move on leave ur job wtf it happens a lot with many serious crimes

  • @ilovesuisse1
    @ilovesuisse1 Před 3 lety +14

    I was 10 in Sydney when that happened. I’ve been to Wanda beach a few times, especially before the murders.

  • @bevcd3625
    @bevcd3625 Před 4 lety +18

    Why has the DNA not been tested?

    • @26TptCoy
      @26TptCoy Před 4 lety +13

      They lost it, they say it's been misfiled and they cannot locate the slides with the killers' semen. I have been told that all babies born in Australia are blood tested and the sample kept somewhere. Opportunity is there to obtain samples for DNA testing from any suspects, providing allowable by a court order.

    • @cincin4515
      @cincin4515 Před 2 lety +1

      50 year old case. There wasn't DNA testing back then.

  • @fluffgirl1000
    @fluffgirl1000 Před rokem +4

    I think parents don,t talk to their children about the reality of life..I did with my son ..but you have to do it a lot of time ..they forget very quickly..now that he is 51 I worry just as much lol ..your a mother for ever

  • @alainvosselman9960
    @alainvosselman9960 Před 3 lety +30

    There are beasts roaming the Earth, they wear human skin and speak our words.

    • @BluFlame231
      @BluFlame231 Před 3 lety

      Hello

    • @alainvosselman9960
      @alainvosselman9960 Před 3 lety

      @@BluFlame231 LOL

    • @kittykat8177
      @kittykat8177 Před 2 lety

      They're called human beings, no special beast about them, no need to blame alternative source, just look directly home (not your home, lol...just look at and blame humans as they are!).

  • @iap-ug3oy
    @iap-ug3oy Před 3 lety +4

    We’re did he get money from to keep going back and forth from Australia to America…. ????

  • @nancypiccirillo405
    @nancypiccirillo405 Před rokem +4

    When I heard he super glued her eyes shut I nearly fell of the chair.

  • @paulfrewzy7374
    @paulfrewzy7374 Před 3 lety +23

    Terrifying watching this sort a stuff being a new dad of a babygirl makes feel So uneasy personally)0(
    Bless them PoorKid's

    • @dincerekin
      @dincerekin Před 3 lety +3

      let me ask you if you would let your daughter go off with a strange man for $100?? Just be a good parent and you have nothing to worry about

    • @poppyfield1619
      @poppyfield1619 Před 3 lety +2

      Aww congratulations on having a baby daughter! Am sure you will be a great dad. Always tell her that adults don't need children to 'help' them with anything for example asking for help to find their cat etc. And also to trust that funny feeling in your stomach you get when something just doesn't feel right. It is never wrong. This is something I told my daughter when growing up.

    • @Jolenesmart1980
      @Jolenesmart1980 Před 2 lety +2

      @@poppyfield1619 that’s a really good point about the not needing help - like find the puppy or in fact like Myra hindley in my country used “help me find my glove”

    • @poppyfield1619
      @poppyfield1619 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Jolenesmart1980 I live in the UK too! X

    • @Jolenesmart1980
      @Jolenesmart1980 Před 2 lety

      @@poppyfield1619 Ah cool I’m in the midlands - Hereford :)

  • @corygempton3501
    @corygempton3501 Před 3 lety +10

    The FBI agent said, that's when we had what we needed, the kidnapping charge to jump all in, wouldn't the 2 young girls that he laid on the tarpaulin and assaulted have been a kidnap case, why would they need another to jump all in?

  • @ethanweeter2732
    @ethanweeter2732 Před 2 lety +15

    Exactly why shows like Crime Stoppers, America’s Most Wanted, and Dateline need to be kept on the air. With what happened with Gabby Petito, if we had better police who identify abuse better, maybe we keep more women or people from dying due to domestic abuse or kidnapping.

  • @lisapoole5420
    @lisapoole5420 Před 3 lety +14

    Wow, Go Linda. What a horrible ordeal, rip to the victims.

  • @lenalena1683
    @lenalena1683 Před 2 lety +3

    Linda, you are amazing! I'm so happy you survived this! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @roomum9829
    @roomum9829 Před 3 lety +4

    WTF? I'm Aussie and have followed the Wanda Beach murders and have never ever heard his name connected with the case. Never! And I'm familiar with who he is too.

    • @cincin4515
      @cincin4515 Před 2 lety +3

      I doubt it was him. The wander murderers were years earlier. More the work of Derek Percy.

    • @lois2997
      @lois2997 Před 4 dny

      @@cincin4515 nope Derek Percy was more of a child killer . His victims were all way younger

  • @beaulieuc8910
    @beaulieuc8910 Před 2 lety +8

    A man approached me today on an isolated train station and I firmly shouted at him go away and leave me alone. He was shocked at my tone of voice. I was lucky that at the train station there were some rail workers and I stayed with them and told them I didn't feel safe. I had my personal alarms with me but I didn't need them, as I was lucky to have some people working in the car park. If people want train information they can use the train assistance machines they do not have to speak to a lone woman. He was pretty annoyed I told him to go away and 'wasn't a female people pleaser' and he tried to follow me a bit but was annoyed when I had some people keeping an eye on me. He could have been completely innocent but these days when men ask you things, it means they want to 'engage' and probably attack you/harrass you. At the end of the day the man is a stranger. I had Wilder in the back of my head who targetted lone women. I was quite pleased that my personal safety strategy worked

    • @davidlockett6781
      @davidlockett6781 Před 2 lety +2

      You make the made assumption that all men are the same.
      I have never attacked a lady and have no intention of doing so. If a lady told me to go away, id cheerfully do so
      Dont portray all men as evil, because we are not.
      Thanks.
      Peace

    • @TheRhNegative
      @TheRhNegative Před rokem

      @@davidlockett6781 She should and we women all should make that same assumption. Better to be safe than sorry.

    • @davidlockett6781
      @davidlockett6781 Před rokem

      @@TheRhNegative Innocent until proven guilty

  • @Thanasis_Koligliatis
    @Thanasis_Koligliatis Před 3 lety +39

    "After 50 years, the name of the murderer is finally revealed..."
    It's just click bait.
    At the very end,
    they reveal that they really don't know.
    They suspect that he might have done it,
    but nothing is actually known for sure.

    • @RaRa-oj4xx
      @RaRa-oj4xx Před 3 lety

      The title of the video doesn’t say anything even close to that so I’m confused how it’s click bait 🤔

    • @Thanasis_Koligliatis
      @Thanasis_Koligliatis Před 3 lety +2

      @@RaRa-oj4xx Read the description

    • @Jolenesmart1980
      @Jolenesmart1980 Před 2 lety

      @@RaRa-oj4xx what are you on about read the description it totally seems they are saying he done it!!!

    • @cincin4515
      @cincin4515 Před 2 lety

      There was a lot of predators back then. It could've been anyone. That was my beach growing up in the 60"s & 70's.

  • @marcellagaviria7982
    @marcellagaviria7982 Před 4 lety +33

    There's lots of killer's just like this one in the world God bless all victims

    • @BiPolarBear128
      @BiPolarBear128 Před 3 lety +5

      seems like there is an awful large majority of them in the US .. America seems to just breed serial killers compared to the rest of the world

    • @chancyreynolds4866
      @chancyreynolds4866 Před 3 lety +4

      Hmm 🤔 5% is what “we” breed while other countries are at 10%. Funny most of us don’t even think about murdering and DON’T 😮anytime in our life.

    • @octopuss1918
      @octopuss1918 Před 3 lety +2

      @@BiPolarBear128 hey this is an Australian serial killer. But yeah America sure has a lot of them.

  • @cN-xv7ju
    @cN-xv7ju Před rokem +8

    Wouldn’t it be awesome if this was finally solved , I remember wen it happened I was only a child my mum used to talk about it a lot an of course we were never allowed to go to the beach without an adult again , I think Australia lost its innocence wen this happened 💔

  • @lukez5117
    @lukez5117 Před 3 lety +10

    In America he would get 100 years, in Australia he got bail lol

    • @janinedaniell1967
      @janinedaniell1967 Před 3 lety +4

      except in USA (florida???) he was given bail after raping two 15 year old girls wasn't he??? (Police and Judges everywhere are too often slack, useless, negligient call it whatever)

    • @michaeltuffin5002
      @michaeltuffin5002 Před 3 lety +3

      Yep u got it.. common to get 6 years for killing ur girlfriend

  • @NadineMiller1974
    @NadineMiller1974 Před 4 lety +28

    OMG my mom grew up in Colebrook...she still has family there. I wonder if they remember this story. My mom was in California married to my dad and I was 12 years old...but my mom's parents and siblings still lived there!
    *My mom's name is Wanda* but we have never been to Australia. We should go there and pay respect to those lives he stole.

    • @kevinwiliiams5206
      @kevinwiliiams5206 Před 4 lety +7

      That he nice to go pay respec us .. What a wonderful gesture .. If you do get the chance record it and put upload vid on youtube plz

    • @angelaryan2104
      @angelaryan2104 Před 3 lety +10

      OMG I live in Australia, have driven past Wanda Beach and I've seen "A fish called Wanda". What a coincidence..

    • @iraynalee3570
      @iraynalee3570 Před 3 lety +3

      @@angelaryan2104 I have an Aunty Wanda and Ive watched a Fish Called Wanda 😆

  • @myunknownland9272
    @myunknownland9272 Před 4 lety +29

    Attractive? I worked next to a girl at 18 who was approached to be a model...she was gorgeous. Thank God she didn't believe him.

  • @davidhynes9683
    @davidhynes9683 Před 3 lety +8

    His eyes would frighten you off

  • @PetroicaRodinogaster264
    @PetroicaRodinogaster264 Před 3 lety +5

    I was 13 when this was happening. This was first aired in 2018 when I was just a few weeks off 65.
    The first woman that spoke on this said she was a teenager in 1965 and was enthralled with the idea of modelling etc....wtf...how old is she in this? She looks to be around 45 and even then, very well preserved. How could she have been a teen in 1965?

    • @michaeltuffin5002
      @michaeltuffin5002 Před 3 lety

      Doesn’t add up

    • @SamStone1964
      @SamStone1964 Před 3 lety +1

      If you are referring to the incident where the 16 year old girl got into his car at Manly Beach Sydney, they said it was 7 December 1982.

    • @cincin4515
      @cincin4515 Před 2 lety

      Yes. I thought the same thing. I was 4 when the wander murders happened yet she looks 25 years younger than me.

  • @bobjolly7795
    @bobjolly7795 Před 4 lety +20

    What exactly are they waiting for.... for them to test themselves...? Seriously there seems to be no good excuse

    • @kittykat8177
      @kittykat8177 Před 2 lety +1

      I know man, it's total BS. Frustrating as hell.

  • @glow1815
    @glow1815 Před 3 lety +3

    I was approached by a business woman when I was working at Toy R Us I was 16. She said I was beautiful and that she's a model Mrg from an agency, she told me she only need to model my face. She handed me her gold business card and asked me to please call her. Yes she looked like a legit business woman. Still I never called her because I was afraid she was a sex trafficker. Or pretended to be a business woman. I'm always aware of my surrounding and smart of what people is telling me or asking me ALWAYS to this day. I never go anywhere alone without people around.

  • @ellabar3842
    @ellabar3842 Před 4 lety +7

    such Evil without self control what so ever

  • @tracyclements616
    @tracyclements616 Před 3 lety +11

    Take the genetic sample that was left behind and put it in the database for criminal references. Because the perpetrator was related to the boys sample. The sample was older than the bodies x now go to work

  • @davidklausmeyer8198
    @davidklausmeyer8198 Před 3 lety +14

    The courts let him go...that's becoming an all too frequent occurrence in this country.

    • @gigigiseleworld
      @gigigiseleworld Před rokem

      Even in America, Canada and Great Britian. SMH

    • @janvdb9258
      @janvdb9258 Před rokem

      The courts dont do enough to protect kids and women. It's sickening

  • @ralphsmith3529
    @ralphsmith3529 Před rokem +3

    It just amazes me that he was on the radar of the police for the Wanda Beach Murders, and they dragged their heels so long, he got away to the States. Did the NSW Police even try to get him returned, or liase with the US authorities? No! A big fat nothing! Then he comes back to Australia, and he's not even on a watch list as a person of interest. He assaults more victims, goes to court and is allowed to return to the States. Nobody apparently checked back into his background enough to have him held under suspicion of the earlier murders. It's just appalling how the Police let this monster slip through their fingers! How many lives could have been saved if this guy had been laid by the heels earlier?

  • @angelaonly7983
    @angelaonly7983 Před 4 lety +24

    'Good looking'?

    • @justsandra71
      @justsandra71 Před 4 lety +1

      Does it matter?

    • @darkeststar3640
      @darkeststar3640 Před 4 lety

      What does a killer like?

    • @angelaonly7983
      @angelaonly7983 Před 4 lety +14

      @@darkeststar3640 like a person:), usually. I was just wondering why they kept mentioning how good looking he was. Subjective, I suppose.

    • @darkeststar3640
      @darkeststar3640 Před 4 lety +2

      @@angelaonly7983 it does seem weird that so many serial killers are good looking, personable, a real gentleman. That's why they get away with killing for so many years.

    • @stevecox7075
      @stevecox7075 Před 4 lety +10

      Just Sandra : Yes, it's odd that they kept referring to him as 'good looking'. I thought he was uglier than a box of hammers.

  • @stephbrowning1690
    @stephbrowning1690 Před 3 lety +6

    Wow how brave Linda was good idea to try and gouge his eyes, how the he'll did he get away with bringing he in in a sleeping bag and wasn't seen.

  • @katieebu2259
    @katieebu2259 Před 4 lety +17

    This scares me soooo much, my friend and I ditched school for the day about 11 years ago now.
    We were on our way to the beach and dressed so poorly getting ready to swim, a guy pulled up near us and got out of the car on the phone and offered us money to go and work for him then and there like get In the car for "boobs out" work we told him we were only 14 or 15 and he had no care, he followed us for so long before we ran off into the crowd at the beach 😬

    • @hkk__
      @hkk__ Před 3 lety +6

      I'm so sorry you had to experience something so scary at such a young age. Lucky there was a crowd to run into!

    • @ziniztr
      @ziniztr Před 2 lety +3

      Oh my God. I'm so glad nothing happened to you. Ugh, I hate creepers.

  • @zeldagoblin
    @zeldagoblin Před 3 lety +6

    Linda, my girl, you're an absolute badass!

  • @controlcontrol1829
    @controlcontrol1829 Před 4 lety +5

    Unbelievable!

  • @peadarkelly9750
    @peadarkelly9750 Před 3 lety +5

    What a devil and a murderer who was a coward when he took his own life when he knew he was caught by the police 👮‍♀️

  • @elkidee1
    @elkidee1 Před 3 lety +4

    Rodney Alcala who just died, played the photography card as well.

  • @cygnals524
    @cygnals524 Před 3 lety +10

    The photo they show of him at 34:10 is extremely chilling! You can see the evil on his face and he is hunting his next victim. He used shopping malls a lot as well. Shopping malls are a thing of the past as they no longer exist. I remember in the early to mid 1980s many teenagers would go to the mall just to meet other teenagers looking for a date. I guess Facebook is the virtual equivalent of the mall today and social media has plenty of preditors lurking as well. Again, that photo of him at 34:10 is so chilling! Absolute evil!

    • @kittykat8177
      @kittykat8177 Před 2 lety +6

      I thought so too. But dude, shopping malls are everywhere, even in little towns

    • @Jolenesmart1980
      @Jolenesmart1980 Před 2 lety +5

      We still have a lot of shopping malls in the uk the one in my town is called maylords shopping centre :) I’m sure you could google where I am now so hope your not a serial killer haha

    • @gigigiseleworld
      @gigigiseleworld Před rokem

      Tik Tok, Instagram Twitter are were the teenage girls go. They also have their own cell 📲📱🤳 phones. Parents should monitor their social life. Teenage pregnancy, HIV, Drug's, Bullying and peer pressure. SMH 😮

    • @gigigiseleworld
      @gigigiseleworld Před rokem +1

      Malls still exist in the USA. Cheaper to sell online... Pro's and cons..

    • @cincin4515
      @cincin4515 Před rokem

      Lots of shopping malls. Cronulla near Wanda is one big plaza where the main drag once was.

  • @hamnukuto3397
    @hamnukuto3397 Před 3 lety +4

    How the heck you let out a sociopath.

    • @cincin4515
      @cincin4515 Před 2 lety +1

      How many times did Ted Bundy slip out of custody in America? Different times.

    • @denisedunne9538
      @denisedunne9538 Před 2 lety

      @@cincin4515 No social media No data bases linking it all together No DNA that's why so many really ice cold cases are now finally being solved the world has changed yet it's still really expensive faminal DNA starts at 20k

  • @beverleylumb8048
    @beverleylumb8048 Před 3 lety +7

    After escaping to the US how could he just waltzes back in to Australia

  • @benjaminmeta7139
    @benjaminmeta7139 Před 3 lety +5

    During those days why the Police had overseen the Red Flag right away...Same things happens in Wanda beach happens in Florida ...Unreal

    • @cincin4515
      @cincin4515 Před 2 lety

      Wander was nearly 20 years earlier. We had another sicko more likely to have been the wander murderer. He tried it on another couple of kids but 1 escaped. That one got off on insanity plea.

  • @brionytoop715
    @brionytoop715 Před 3 lety +6

    It’s not madnesses, not evil, it’s solely abuse, the world needs more education, enough. It has to stop, NOW.

  • @brendoncassidy1316
    @brendoncassidy1316 Před 2 lety +6

    Whomever the judge was who released him in Australia should be sentenced to death.

  • @clairedavis8564
    @clairedavis8564 Před 2 lety +4

    Oh Dear God, please eradicate ALL evil beings the young the old even the babies! These innocent TRULY beautiful women are courageous beyond measure. My prayers are with them.
    PS: I will forever treasure and love our Aussies🌹

  • @tomraw4893
    @tomraw4893 Před rokem +2

    Terrible police work in NSW Australia. In those days cops had no idea about the serial killer. Wilder lived in the close proximity of the Wanda beach.

  • @Jolenesmart1980
    @Jolenesmart1980 Před 2 lety +2

    32:00 oh god bad choice of words after he glued her eyes - we showed her a photo line up she didn’t bat an eye 👁 🤦🏼‍♀️

  • @TheWorldisSoDivided
    @TheWorldisSoDivided Před 3 lety +4

    You can see the Evil in his eyes. 👹

  • @glenn-younger
    @glenn-younger Před 2 lety +7

    I'm wondering... did they ever run the DNA on the unsolved beach murder? Anybody know?

  • @aridyaacob3172
    @aridyaacob3172 Před 3 lety +6

    I thought her eyes were superglued shut. The actress’s eyes were wide open. Glad she survived though. Bravo!

  • @TrueCrimeisNY
    @TrueCrimeisNY Před 6 měsíci

    This case creeps me out. I can’t even cover it on my own platform. Because it is so eerie.

  • @mattystuartsydney
    @mattystuartsydney Před 3 lety +2

    Roscoe reporting in 1965.

  • @kade6518
    @kade6518 Před rokem +1

    Congratulations Australian justice system you just created a Monster

  • @Nixter1974007
    @Nixter1974007 Před 3 lety +10

    Let him go. Great idea. Someone has this on their conscience.

  • @skatpak2967
    @skatpak2967 Před 2 lety +3

    i wonder what really makes girls be so over the top about modeling?? why talk to strangers?? esp older men?? it makes no sense to me..but i was raised by both parents and a military dad would have never left us girls alone..thank you daddy : ) for always protecting us

  • @thewatcheronthewall85

    Absolutely sickening how he was able to go on and on.

  • @shirleyguy7152
    @shirleyguy7152 Před 3 lety +1

    Wow what a story

  • @kunobuje542
    @kunobuje542 Před 3 lety +3

    Holy!! I thought her eyes was about to pop out of her Head..

  • @garrettmeadows2273
    @garrettmeadows2273 Před 3 lety +4

    I really admire Linda Grober.

  • @gloriafeather5607
    @gloriafeather5607 Před rokem +2

    I'm absolutely over hearing about police bungling. It's present in nearly EVERY crime investigation.

    • @janvdb9258
      @janvdb9258 Před rokem +1

      Policing literally was created to capture escaped slaves. Policing was never, nor is it designed to protect women and children from predators or there would be a one strike policy

  • @muttlee9195
    @muttlee9195 Před 3 lety +2

    ♥️ to Linda