Why does the 2019 Honda Civic Type R cost MORE than the Civic Si?
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- čas přidán 28. 02. 2019
- The Honda Civic Type R is the most powerful Civic ever, but is that the only reason why it costs more than $10k over the Honda Civic Si. In this review I will breakdown the features of the 2019 Civic Si and show where the 2019 Honda Civic Type R garners the higher asking price. Find out all the details in this epic review!
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I bought the 2017 Honda type R, I absolutely love it and its so fast..... Thanks, this was very interesting....P.S. I'm 77 and this is my favorite car EVER....
That is so wonderful Maria!
No way! Wow
77? Stop lying on the Internet.
@@jetskifisherman9214 Really, you know me??????
Type r not that fast
This man is sooo thorough with his reviews. I really appreciate his work. Thanks Raitis Rides!!
I will own a Type R before I die. I swear it.
SDolemite92 me too, but hope I don't die in one too, new or sec hand?
I will buy it in 5 years, currently saving 1000€ each month to buy mine, i hope you get yours man, love them cars
@@dollin971 if you can save 1000€ a month, you can easily finance one bro.
@@manifba well i never said its hard for me to finance but still i'll save up money so i can buy it without the need to go to a bank
@@dollin971 you would be better off financing it and investing the difference each month. builds credit too.
“If you go for type R, you may need to take some Vitamin D supplements, cos there’s no sunroof”
Gold!!!! 😂😂😂
I like your "ZONK". That gets my attention. That tells me that something is either non functional or it is a bad design. Good job.
That really means a lot! Thank you for letting me share my passion of cars with you!
I never saw myself wanting something like the type r , but im legitimately thinking about getting one.
Hey you just never know! Let me know if you have any questions!
Did u?
Oh you will love the R if you decide, takes corners like a dream, don't even know your turning sometimes, smooth, not too noisy, just right.
You will love it when you do, it has the power , style & handling, love mine going in 5 yrs now
I really love how you break things down. Your attention to detail is unmatched in any videos I've seen. I also really love how you focus on functional vs non-functional body features. That's a huge deal for me. I don't want a car with a bunch of fake performance features. Your genuine enthusiasm is the cherry on top!
Thank you so much Jerry for saying that! I really appreciate your support!
As usual, a GREAT and informative review! I'm 70 years old and just purchased a 2019 Civic Sport CVC Sedan. Performance wise, it obviously doesn't compare with R and Si but I absolutely love it!
To Maria C: You're 77 and purchased a Civic R? Good for you! There's still some Sport left in us 70 Year olds!
You got it Larry, man I love this car...
Great video! Bought my 2019 Civic Si Sedan in Blue, back in December and so far I love it!
Who in this world would ask himself this question lol
There are people that are not as wise as you that what to see each of the differences!
Yeah lots of people ask this question actually, like to most car people its obvious but to non-car people they just think it's an SI with a body kit
He is describing stupid fuck dick head
🤣🤣🤣
@deadend here you are
I'm go ahead and say it. Best car review I have ever seen. I love the passion and true knowledge of Honda's hard work they put onto these cars. The details you pointed out and talked about is exactly what I wish car reviewers would talk about, but 99% of them just don't know and don't care
That is so very awesome of you to say! Thank you for your support!
I agree about the exhaust on the Type R being too docile. I ended up swapping the OEM one to an HKS Legamax and I wish it sounded like this from the factory. I'll take my chances with the warranty, but I can definitely understand anyone who says the Type R doesn't sound. It DOES sound... only inside. Outside is mostly wind noise it seems.
I would love to hear what that sounds like! Thanks for sharing!
The red race mode lighting is more about psychology. It's a more aggressive color that gives the idea of quick, decisive, aggressive action.
AGREED! Great input!
I never knew what SI stood for until this video, wow
I love the way you did this presentation. Super confident. Keep up the good work!
Great job! I was really impressed by your knowledge of the civic and the differences between the two.
Another fantastic video from Raiti’s Rides 💯🤝
Thanks Miguel! You are really great!
If it was an actual $10,000 difference I might have bought a Type R instead of the Si. As it stands, dealers regularly mark it up an additional $5,000 to $10,000. It’s definitely not worth a $15,000-$20,000 difference, especially when you can get Si’s brand new for around $22,000.
Thanks for sharing your in put and perspective! I really appreciate you watching!
Fast forward to end of summer 22, brand new Si are running at $38k while 20-21 Type R’s are around $45k. The R is really nice, plenty fast but man that’s a tough sell. I still might end up getting one lol. It was a blast to drive!
Great comparison and debunking myths. I'm glad your camera man had his protein to get those good angles. Lol. Caught me off guard per usual. Nice review!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and picking up on my little jokes! I really appreciate you watching!
Joe, new subscriber to your awesome channel! Your honest reviews are top notch! Much love from SoCal!
Honda is always in my heart, myself drive 2013 CRZ, original owner and plan to keep it that way, could have bought an SI but wanted a rare care, and a Type R obviously was too much money for myself when they came out but everyone would take a Type R! Keep up the amazing Vids!
I bought a 2020 si coupe from this very dealership lol. I drove all the way from Orlando bc they were selling it for $23k
40K+ for Type R (Adjusted Market)
22.5K+ For Civic Si (With Negotiating)
More than just a 10K difference
Very good point! Thanks for sharing your input!
All except the part of 40K+! I've not once seen the mark-up be that bad. $39,000 was the worst I saw. Trust me I've been watching. Besides if you pay that much, I would consider you a fool.
@ps3dragonblood I didn’t. I purchased the Si
@@kblairp There was no way I was walking out of the dealer only paying 22.5k for the Si. Try 24k with silly dealer addons that forced me to pay (that's how they get their money).
@@marlinrowley4122 yeah 22.5 out the door lol maybe a used 2017 - 18 off Craiglist
Great videos man, you’re killing it! Keep up the awesome work!
Thanks for being so supportive Frank!
New subscriber from Chicago. Love your videos!
Not a Honda guy but the type r looks better than the normal one
You are so very right!
Great informative review. Love your energy and the amount of info you deliver despite this long ass video!! Much better than trying to be funny.
Ive been driving my 1500 dollar camry for 5 years. And i want to switch to a sporty car after college before i have to get an suv. Im willing to learn to drive a stick for this car.
Thanks for sharing your input and your kind words! I say go for it!
you are the best honda cars details person i ever seen . if anybody wants to know or buy the car just listen and watch your videos . that's more than enough. i am from canada. good job. i am already subscribed.
I really appreciate you saying that! Thank you for your awesome support and for being part of the Raiti's Rides Family!
Very good review. Probably my favorite reviewer on the Tube. One thing though, the wings on coupe and sedan are exactly same, just mounted different
Thanks Bob for the compliment and the info!
That extra 10k will get you more for sure! Another dude with a Type R got the wheel warranty and happened to hit a nasty pothole right after he bought it. Needless to say the wheel warranty was well worth the cost.
I couldn't agree more with you!
The Type R is chunkier looking and is futuristic. I’m with you on the fake vents. They should eliminate the rear ones and carry that blue around the back and maybe put a reverse light on each side.
I wish I was in sunny Tampa. We’re expecting several inches of snow here in Northern Ky. Sunday and below freezing temps until Thursday. 🥶
Thanks for the great review on these two Civics! 👍🏻👍🏻
I'm glad I can bring the Florida sun to you! You hit the nail on the head about these Civics!
Joe I love it!! This video really hits home for me!! I have owned 4 different Si’s in 3 different generations and I have enjoyed them all!! As you know I currently have a 2017 Si and I am going to take delivery of my Type R in April!! I can’t wait!! Thanks for a great video and showing side by side comparisons!! This channel is the Best car reviewing channel on CZcams!! I am grateful to be a part of the family!! I will talk to ya soon Joe!! Keep kickin butt!! God bless ya brother!!🚙🙏🏻🚙
I am so glad that you liked this one! That is so awesome that your Type R is on it's way! What color are you getting? I appreciate you sharing the passion with me! Continue to stay strong and good things will happen! I hope you have a blessed weekend, and tell your mom I said hello!
🚙Thanks so much Joe!! I am pretty excited for my Type R to arrive!! I got the Polished Metal Metalic!! I’m excited to get the volume knob lol!! Thanks for sharing your passion with me as well Joe!! You always encourage me and it means a lot!! Life i great and it’s great because of the wonderful people like you in it!! My mother says hello back and says “thank you for all you do for my son!!” I always enjoy talking to ya!!! 🙏🏻🚘🙏🏻
That's really awesome! Keep me in the loop!
Thanks Joe!! I’ll definitely keep ya in the loop!!! Have a great week!! I will talk to ya again soon!! God bless ya brother!!🙏🏻😀🚙
Great review as always. Keep it coming
You got it my friend!
So legit!!! I like how you describe the aerodynamics design concept of the Type R. Will definitely go for the Type R.
Thanks Brice! That really means a lot!
Great review. You covered enough areas on the design of the car. Hopefully people will understand the design, the reasons behind it, and stop being their own engineers lol
Thank you for recognizing that! I totally get what you are talking about! lol
Thank you! Your expertise is spot on!
I really appreciate you saying that!
Raiti, another good review. Thank you man !!!
Thank you so much for letting me share it with you!
Awesome review .... have an 18 Si.... drolling on that Type R....🤤🤤🤤
Thank you for the compliment Jose! What color is your Si?
Si exhaust sounds louder compared to the type r 😒😒
It is :-(
Thats because volume is silly. Performance is the focus, which is all any real driver should be concerned with.
That true , but I would expect my performance top of the line car sounding like it you know
@@obeychip5130 The Type R sounds amazing...
Jeff Allen the Type R sounds trash.
Wow Joe! Every video u surprise me, u know alot about these cars and their history🚗🚘
I really appreciate you taking the time to say that! Thanks for letting me share it with you!
Nice review. First time I saw your page and I had to subscribe. Very in depth inside and outside review. Wish you test drove the cars but nice review nonetheless
Thanks Marlon! I appreciate you joining the Raiti's Rides Family. Please check out some of my other reviews. I drive most of them.
Love that AGM Blue! those exhaust on Type R are big zonk but the rear spoiler looks wicked, Love those wheels! SI Not happening ! Great Review, Good info .
Thank you for hitting on all of those great points!
"Aegean Blue", dude (not "AGM"); but we knew what you meant (?) Lol
When honda decide to get rid of those fake mesh, I would be interested in getting one. I cant stand those things! Awesome review.
Very good points! Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the overview!
Hey I just seen your type r review. How often do those tires need to be changed ? And can other tires fit those wheels without rearranging everything. Thanks in advance and big fan of your channel.
Type R is so sick. I really want one, but it's just not reasonable to blow 40k right now for me... Great comparison btw 👌
Dude, I just bought one last month. I contemplated it for 2 years. I am so Freaking happy I spent the money for it. This car is SICK!
If you dont have the money for it, its reasonable. Save alittle more if you have to. I just hate when ppl go and not have the money for it, then knock it as if it's too much money because they cant afford it. Its worth every penny.
I really appreciate you taking the time to watch and letting me share it with you!
Congrats man! It is a great car!
Very good points!
Joe would you go with 19's and a taller tire for practicality here?
Yes for sure!
Not really a car enthusiast, so I always wanted to know what the difference was. I own an 18’ SI, so the curiosity was always there, haha. Thanks for the upload!
I really appreciate you saying that Brandon!
Love the video very helpful
Thanks for letting me share it with you!
I really like this yank. he always gives useful information. keep up the good work mate
Thanks Peter that really means a lot!
To many fake vents, the annoying exhaust tips...on both, but IMO the Type R just look better, more aggressive. Great video Joe 👍👌
I wish it had some personality to the sound like it does the looks!
Raiti's Rides agreed
I skipped this 10th gen, but it’s nice to go back and see what they kept and changed for the 11th gen. They tossed that jacked up sliding console, kept the trick trunk cover setup. Gave you a nicer steering wheel, no fake vents.
Fantastic review of both cars and I appreciate that. Having said that, I don’t think RED meant STOP, it meant REDLINE to me. Acura Integra had a 9K redline with a naturally aspirated engine (I’m talking 90’s) With turbo power, we have a cars that can do better
Thank you for sharing your input and perspective on this one!
"IF YOU SAY A PRAYER, AND HAVE YOUR LUCKY PENNY IN YOUR POCKET, 0-60 IN 4.9 SECONDS" 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Favorite part of the video honestly! You definitely made me want this car, and now I've got it 🙏💯🔥
Thanks Andrew for saying that! Congrats on getting yours!
If they made an AWD 400 wheel version for a few extra bucks....I might start pondering there joe
So would I! lol
I love that design including fake grills, I got one in red and I love it, I would buy them again, your dislike of the fake grill, its your opinion but it adds to greater look n I bought this car because of all the attention to details very stylish car Honda has ever made, well done
Great comparison on 2 great cars! Love your reviews Joe!
Thats type r is gorgeous
It really pops in the sun!
Hondapro Jason made his vents functional on his custom yellow Type R.
That is very cool!
Already changing in F1 with a few wins with Max Verstappen...and hopefully in home race this weekend will have All four engine in top 7 plus a win.
Thank you so much for sharing your input and perspective! I really appreciate you watching!
@@RaitisRides thank you.
Is the si as powerful as it can be right off the showroom floor? Or can you bump up the performance with a super tuner/Hondada...?
Performance can be bumped. I'm taking mine to get bumped on Monday at Alamo Autosports.
Honda can redeem this exhaust issue on the Type R with an HFP exhaust upgrade option
That would be wonderful if they did!
youre catching a lot of hate for your title but im in the market for a civic(probably something first price point) but when i was looking at the models i asked myself why is the type r so much more expensive than the si? anyways nice video
Thanks James! You know what they say, haters are always going to hate.
OUTSTANDING job on the presentation, Joe, despite what some critics say. Perhaps if your tan was a little darker, you would have gotten a better review from certain individuals. Like you, I think the xtra money is worth it for the type "R" version. The only other Hot Hatch I would consider is the new Veloster "N", with its turbo model. Less ponies, but I like the style a little more. I remember those racing days when the name of Honda was very competitive in formula racing. I really like this car though, in the "R" version, for sure. Keep em' comin', thanks.
I think you hit the nail on the head! The Veloster N looks great! It has such an aggressive yet clean design. Thanks for sharing those awesome points!
I will get either car or golf r. One practical advantage of golf is it seats 5, type r only 4, true?
Geeee I wonder why the Type R is more expensive?🤦🏻♂️
Arturo Beltran I think just because it’s more of a sporty car.
You guys just dont get it🤷♂️ The car is beating tons of supercars(100k+) around the nurburgring. It is only 35k...😂😂
turbo95eclipse it’s not 35K it’s freakin 46K because of this scum dealers...
04 m3 Look for dealers online posting it for near MSRP. I live in Hawaii and I’m debating getting one shipped here from California.
@The Cadaver lmao veloster is slow compared to type-r my guy
i will say this I used to own a VW golf gti mk6 2012. Going to a honda civic si I felt like I lost nothing but gained a little more horse power. I love how the front and back end looks and is very roomy compare it to a hatch back. I will say that both cars are better built than their competitors especially vw. American and European cars are just not quite there and are endless money pits. Anyhow I bought the 2019 civic si was more in my affordability range.. The type R if you like to put your money you're mouth is than get a type r.. Si is more affordable plus you can always take type R parts and change them out on the SI. That's how it worked with my vw gti to golf r mods. I only recommend modding you're shit when you pay the bank off. The Si it can haul some serious ass for a 1.5 plus the exhaust is louder makes you feel like you are driving a high performance vehicle. Si always has better gas mileage compared to its big brother. I am very happy with my SI it gets people hating and jealous lol
Thanks Anton for sharing your own experience!
I also got the 2019 Si. Looking at this review, I can't believe how close they are. Yes, parts will be interchangeable. I'm going to my dealer Monday and ordering those 2 red honda badges. I'd love to have the Type-R's rims and finally, I want my door handles painted glossy black. That's all I need for it besides a reflash to tune the car up a bit.
Not true my hatch back sport touring came with that or is it just for the hatch’s?
Got my 2021 3 days ago. I'm truly in love.
Love the Civic Si...
How do you like the color?
Raiti's Rides I like the color but I can’t wait to see the boost blue pearl in person!!!!
I would have liked if Honda also made a Civic Type R coupe
That would of been really nice to give the people a choice!
I've always said that if they made a Type R coupe I would have jumped all over it.
Thanks for that great info!
I think the EP3 was the last from japan. There was a one after in the UK it wasn't well received. The integra was the coupe sports car.
Sergio Aguirre dc2 and dc5 are described as coupe? Would that mean a rx7 is 3 door hatch?
Just got a CTR. Took me awhile to find one at MSRP. Amazing car
Well done!
Like this style of video, and I am a huge fan of the type R. Next year can’t wait
Thanks for saying that and letting me share it with you!
Yo Ratti, I think it would be cool if Honda would stuff the same turbo charged 2.0l that's in the Accord into the Civic type S. I think the type R has the same engine it's just detuned in the Accord.
its not.. different cams, different head, different pistons...
You are so right! It seems really stupid to do that!
Thanks for your input.
because the Si retains the puny 1.5 liter. Gone is the K20 it used to have unless you get the turbocharged Type R
Thanks for sharing your input and perspective! I really appreciate you watching!
That 1.5 does pretty good with a tune. When you add in the gas mileage and Honda dependency I’m not sure what’s better at 25k new?
@@gregblack8550 yeah exactly. If this is how the si is going to be when I graduate college and get a job, I think I'll go with it. For a sporty daily commuter, I'm not seeing enough benefits with the type R to spend an extra 10k+ out the door, give up 10 mpg, and pay more in insurance.
@@natemueller3051 I own a 2019 civic type R and my insurance really is not that high. Wanna know why? Because it is listed as a honda civic touring😂
3fixes for me on type R.
1. All 3 exhaust pipes, make same size.
2. Fake vents make verticle slats that just funnel air around outside of car.
3. Better designed rear wing.
It will be interesting on what the redesign looks like!
I would’ve want you to compare it to the hatchback sport/sporttouring instead just because i cant afford the typeR and the sport hatchback is the closest thing to typeR in terms of design lol. Great review as always
I am actually going to be putting that together!
Cost more because dealer mark up is crazy plain and simple
Bought mine for 37k after taxes and all registration fees. Do some research and the mark up isn't there
So you bought yours under MSRP. Not saying I don’t believe you. . . But I don’t believe you.
Slap Boogz you sound like my friend he said he bought hi rs for msrp when they came out the first day. Lol
Slap Boogz lucky, local dealer wants $50k for it before taxes.
Do your research! There are dealers out there that are not doing markup!
Cut out the two mufflers In rear it'll sound sooo much better
It should come with an active exhaust.
This is where I get my 08 civic services. I also go here to scope out the si for when I get ready to move on
How do dark colors on cars fare in Florida during the summer?
Si sounds way better
You are so very right!
I've said that before. Although I rarely find a 4 cylinder that I like as far as exhaust note goes. I can only think of a few.
That is a very good point! I love the Alfa Romeo 4C!
Robert Zakaryan si looks better
@@richie1837 There's parts of each I like. My ideal one would be a 2 door variant with the Type R front and sides with a coupe rear. I'm not a fan of the looks of the hatch although I think the big wing does a good job at distracting the looks of the hatch.
They add the volume button now but not fix the lame exhaust. 👎🏻👎🏻
Never driven one. Might do that this weekend. They have to be fun due to how many people rave about them. Did drive a clients Rolls Royce Phantom last week. I was not disappointed. Just the size had me in awe. A monster.
That is very cool! Keep me in the loop if you ever drive a Type R. I would love to hear you viewpoint!
Raiti's Rides Will do! Keep up the good work. Look forward to your videos.
Thanks Chris! You are the man!
Does the type r have a spoon engine with the motec exhaust
The main reason the type r is more expensive than an si is cuz in the future the type r wil retain its value. The type r badge alone will hold the value.
All hondas hold their value pretty good. But that's not the reason. The engine and the added bells and whistles.
Honda just partnered with Redbull and max verstappen qualified in 4th behind Ferrari and Mercedes in 2019 Australian gp Honda will be back on the podium in 2019
Fingers crossed William!
I wonder how interchangeable the parts are from a Type R to an Si? Would be interesting for someone to try it out :)
How close is that blue to the Electron Blue Pearl of the 99-00 Si?
It's a little darker.
“Why I get controls off my gameboy” 💀💀
Thank you for sharing your input and perspective! I really appreciate you watching!
I have red badges on my sport hatch, didn’t buy them on eBay though😂mine are OEM
Great job man!
Grats
Raiti, the only thing in that parking-lot that really caught my sight was that "Beautiful Blue Ford Focus RS", it stands out so nice that makes those Honda look like cheap bargain deals in a flee market!
Angelo Lopezcua whatever your smoking let me get some bro! 😂
Thanks for sharing you input and perspective! I really appreciate you watching!
LMAO!
What if I got a si almost paid off , but I wanna trade it in for a type r ? Should I or nah?
Type R? Yes... 😁
It would be nice if it only was a 10k difference. More like 20k difference with dealership mark up’s. Wish car manufacturers took price mark up’s more serious. I can only imagine what the mark up on a 2020 Supra will be.
Very good points Jose!
30k diiference actually
@@rad636 it's insane how the markups still exist a few years into the CTR. I'm no longer in a market for a car but when I was just calling a bunch of Nor Cal dealers for quotes they had it at $8-$15k markup. It's sad that they know people are still gonna cave and buy it at those prices
Just have to do some research.
Thank is so true but don't be that person. There are dealers who are selling theirs without markup.
You must miss the type r, since your reviewing it again 😂😂😂
I do sometimes! I wish I could have one of each!
Great video, I have a 2010 SI and loving it 🙂
Thank you for saying that and you have a great car! What color is yours?
Raiti's Rides its black, and recently bought the Hondata FlashPro can’t wait to try it out:)
That should add some get up and go to it!
I love my 2017 Civic SI. Its just a lot of fun to drive
Thanks for sharing some of that ownership experience!
im running 5s 0-60 with vittune stage 1 and intake
That is really awesome! What kind of exhaust are you running?
@@RaitisRides stock exhaust... It's actually good fr up to 300hp
Very nice!
8:38 I hope you mean Civic Type R
Of course! I just tripped over my thoughts. I do it it one take!
My question is if I have never driven a manual car could I go straight into the Honda R instead of the SI
I think you could learn stick just as easy on both.
Are the gear ratios the same?