What Rich American Men Did For Fun In The Early 1900s
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
- Rocker Pop Star Thomas Dolby is a friend of mine. He is one of the most creative guys I have ever known. He certainly didn't need to be a novelist but he got bugged by this story and thought he would take a crack at writing a novel. He has done a great job.
His debut novel--a historical thriller called ‘Prevailing Wind.’ is set in 1913, and it is the story of two penniless Maine lobstermen who try out to become members of the crew of an America’s Cup racing yacht owned by millionaires - the richest American men - at the wealthy New York Yacht Club.
Thomas was fascinated by the historical background of that pre-WW1 era, and he explains in this interview with me, why he chose it for his new book. You can order it from Amazon. “Prevailing Wind”
Thank you Thomas.
David Hoffman filmmaker
Another great Thomas Dolby story - czcams.com/video/VlGHT7uVlHw/video.html
Now
A time in history whereabout talkin and writin not often are. Never end a phrase with a preposition. That is why it is a PRE position.
I want to know your thinkin process. "This is a pre-position. If I put it at the end of the sentence, it will still be pre- the next sentence" might have been your thinkin.
When you thought about the word "about" -- vis-a-vis the prefixture "pre" -- what was the sequence of your thoughts? Or DID you think?
Maybe you just synthesized a sentence from sounds that you heard spoken by others, rather than to do your own thinkin? Please give, to me, resolution to my questions, thank you.
In the eightes he blinded me with science. Now, Dolby blinds me with guilded age history.
He did a lot of the first cell phone ringtones too. He brilliantly reinvents himself.
My mom's uncle left home at age twenty and went to New York seeking a job. He found one with Standard Oil and worked his way up to a vice president. Now it makes sense to see my teenage mom ( my not yet mother ) on her uncle's yacht! I have that photo of her.
It was illegal to charge income tax prior to 1913 except for times of declared war.
Always remember that.
Then the government could charge up to 90% income tax. Smh.
*Don't worry, its only for 2 weeks...*
The UK government brought in the income tax "as a temporary measure in order to defeat Napoleon". He remains undefeated.
@@mtlicqwhat do you mean by that?
Still illegal. There is no law authorizin the private corporation "IRS" to take revenues.
I'll take "Murder Young Orphan Boys" for a thousand, Alex.
LOL. Beat me to it. 😂
Perhaps the original meaning of MYOB? 🤔
This did used to actually happen. My great grandfather used to go what he called “negro hunting” they would target the younger colored kids.
Imagine if this was done on SNL. HAHAHAHA. Alex (Will Farrell) hosts a special episode with 1900's Billionaires.
An orphan is trotted out onstage, and Cornelius says, "What is..." and then shoots the kid. 😆
@AkumaAPN Bill Hader could reprise "I Drink Your Milkshake".
To answer the question seriously though: Drinking, sex, work and drinking while having sex at work. It's no wonder grandfathers loved going to work while their grandchildren do not.
Having sex in the coals mines? Hauling lobster pots? WTF are you talking about?
@@frequentlycynical642 So your mind is particularly interested in the jobs where it is extremely difficult for the wife or fiancee to show up and "discuss urgent family matters in private" aye? The exception proves the rule, there must be a place for your kind to thrive. What your kind is I do not know, but you are covered as the fisherman who hates seeing his old hag or people in general, and you are covered in the mines where you are less "pick-y" who you spend time with alone in the closet. You know, where you don't work in the coal mines, the coal mines work you? Uhn tiss uhn tiss uhn tiss baby! 🏳🌈
Hehehe..😊
power corrupts
@@frequentlycynical642No no no, they had sex in lobster pots. A lot of them were masochists so having sex on top of a pile of lobsters while they got pitched by the lobsters was a big turn-on.
I just pre-ordered his book. He has a knack for story-telling. I look forward to reading it.
This looks just fascinating. Thank you for the wonderful historical content!
One of the more interesting commercials I've ever been dragged through.
Thomas Dolby for reals!
What a profound influence on developments artistically,mentally, emotionally, psychologically and gosh knows what else as a 1-year old to present!
Thanks for posting, as well as all your other postings, sincerely what a treat, no foolin'!
Thomas Dolby is a fascinating gentleman who has inspired me to live in the moment, to be present...everyday!
Also, be your truest, best self...and especiallt....embrace your own curiosity and quirks!
I am a fan and admirer since 1981!
Thank you Mr. Dolby.
It's important to remember that, while it's probably impossible to be a billionaire and not be a complete piece of crap, plenty of regular people with no money do just fine at being equally awful. 😅
Thomas Dolby is a friend of yours? I'm impressed, David. I love his work, and I'm a fan of your channel.
This interview is most fascinating I know very little about Thomas Dolby other then he is a musician friend of yours. 😊✌💛
As someone with roots in Atlantic Canada, the tales of the fishermen and their communities are very close to my heart. It is your book to write, but PLEASE come true on your promise to show the lives of these people with truthfulness and dignity. They were the salt of the earth and you should do them right.
Thanks to all for giving a like if you care about the working class.
Love this video David! I can't tell you how bad I wanted the title of Thomas' book to be "She blinded me with a prevailing wind!" 🤣
Interesting history Thank you David ❤️
Great story! I especially love learning about this particular timeframe in the US. And I'm certainly looking foward to seeing more from Thomas! (Also I recognized that brutal but common horse in the street photo from one of your past community post) TYVM David!✌
His enthusiasm for the topic is infectious, thanks for uploading David.
great video and great story, wow those sail boats are beautiful!
"She blinded me with science" is an '80's classic. I had no idea who I was listening to until the end of the video.
Today I learned that Snoke was David Rockefeller.
That's both fascinating and sickening, but that's what the idle rich men were like. It's cool that Thomas has ventured into writing, and brought these kinds of tales to life. Thanks, David. ❤️
"Were"?
@@johnmusser8925 Correction: were/are ✌️
I think I'll be buying this. I'm a huge history nerd and my favorite periods of time are just before the turn of the century and the very beginning of the 1900's. So I'm excited to see how well written and engaging this novel is!
I find it amusing that it's only the looks of the world that truly change, not the people. We just put on different skins, but we remain who we are at the core. This video documentary is the proof of that. Nothing much has change between super rich and super poor. It's just perceived differently, same problems in the world, just done in a different way.
Thank you for posting this video!
Agreed
@@amuroray9115
💯 correct
@NirvanaNectar -
Have you read Gerry Docherty 's Hidden History ? (Round Table group etc)
Any book recommendations on the gilded age?
She blinded me with Lobsters!! Cool subject. Interesting, the legacy of our Robber Barrons. Love us some TD!!
Fantastic, I love history! And Thomas Dolby’s music, count me in to read his book!
Thank you for this story, David. His book sounds very interesting.
The very thought chills me too the bone.
I'm going to get that book. Fantastic idea and thanks!
You've blinded me with science well done!
You always have top quality content , thank you !
Saw Thomas Live at the QMU at Glasgow University in early 80’s. One of my favorite songs of his was “One of our Submarines”. Better times.
Why have I not found your content earlier than this? Fantastic stuff! Jarring shift from "She Blinded Me With Science!"
Look into what the Vanderbilt's did in Newport after late nights at their Reading Room Club. Like riding naked down Belleview Ave on horseback..
this was great. i am at the sparks Nevada library.. i am going to the reference desk now to see if they have the book. if not i will ask them to order it... THANK YOU !!!...rockettebob in reno
I had no idea about these yachts. What happened to the yachts? Those yachts were ginormous.
Thank you for this history.
This is just my opinion I think this behavior continues but manifests in a different way
The Volvo Ocean Race still exists.
Sounds like a good novel to read. As always, thank you David!
Great video, good on. ya, ill look for the book
imo life as a rich man now is much better than during those years
"I do not have yach its or polop ponies"
"Hey! Thats yachts and polo ponies!"
" Oh. Whaddaya want from me?"
Wow your channel has really exploded since I last saw the subscriber count. Usually I see your interesting community posts every now and then, first time I've seen a video that I can recall on the channel.
Congrats on the growth and best of luck with what you put out and share with us all next, David! :D
Thank you. Actually, my videos are much more popular than anything that I post on the community post.
David Hoffman filmmaker
@@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker another one of your videos featuring a skyscraper from 1970-80s Chicago was recommended to me. Was a fantastic watch. Thanks for sharing those unique moments with us.
Glad to see your channel doing well.
Kaleb with a K
Sounds fascinating, the class divide is/was staggering. Look forward to reading it.
All the best 👍
I love history , this was a really good video
Thank you.
The book called “ The Mannings “ by Fred mustard Steward is a wonderful depiction of everything touched in this video and then 10x more , touching on all different specs of life in the early 1900s as a 25 year old bike shop owner goes on to be the largest car tire manufacturer in the world. Billionaire party’s .. Love and drama , even murder.
Top 3 books I ever read.
Late 1800s - early 1900s was probably the most free a man could be
So Good to See You! Your music got me thru an interesting period of my life for sure.
Beautiful ships. I was thinking of this recent competition to have the biggest rocket and the biggest yacht. "She Blinded you with Science"? Maybe She has some ideas?
Rockefeller, Vanderbilt, Carnegie, Astor, Ford and Morgan. The start of American history real interesting. had to do with banking, railroad, oil, steel, and automobiles. Thanks for sharing this video David. Much appreciated my friend. Do you have a wonderful day? And once again, like I said before, thank you for the phenomenal videos you show us.
Hello Thomas, great video! As a sailer and a (temporary) inhabitant of Newport, I found this video really interesting
I find this video to be interesting 👍
Great video. The Ludlow massacre is the incident that gave rise to the public relations industry. Robber barons soon became known as Industrialists or Philanthropists.
Also, Florida was another playground for wealthy thrill seekers. They enjoyed racing cars on the beaches near Daytona, which became home of NASCAR.
For some reason "One of Our Submarines" is playing in my head right now
I’m def getting this book thank YOU!!!! 🙏
Bravo Thomas san ! Arigato from Japan
Good heavens, Miss Yakamoto, you're BEAUTIFUL! Great lecture, Prof Dolby!
Way to make Father's Day shopping easier! :)
This video really peaked my interest
Very cool!
I also remember reading about barons in their old age, such as John Jacob Astor and John D. Rockefeller, employed wet nurses for health reasons which wouldn’t go over very well in our time.
Will it be on audible?
I'm hoping to make a fully dramatized audiobook. Here's me reading an audio excerpt: czcams.com/video/MIpbdA_sO0Y/video.html
Thomas Dolby also aged well.
I remember his song from the early '80s . It was something about " Science " . Good song !
thanks!!
I love Thomas Dolby, but I had no idea he was such a polymath and such a storyteller! He fits right in to that Stephen Fry/Emma Thompson crowd!
Well that was very very interesting and I'm in.
good video. I hadn't thought about who the crew were....interesting that it was fishermen.
He blinded me…with HISTORY!!!
Wow, hearing some familiar sounds. From *Gothic* (1986). Then realize it's the composer of that wonderful soundtrack!
stunning old photos, the idea of lobstermen/fishermen sailing in NY.... Hey, where are the ultra rich playing now?
Not available on Audible. How can that be?
Read "reminiscences of a stock operator". It was written under a pseudonym by Jesse Livermore, of of the best traders who ever lived, who was a member of the NY Yacht club, and had several large yachts, which he used to go fishing on with friends for huge swordfish.
Several U.S. states still have no STATE income tax. We are still responsible for FEDERAL income tax, but not STATE taxes in these states. There are plenty of other taxes as well - property tax, sales tax, school taxes, municipal utility district taxes. We have plenty of taxes.
It's funny to me that people complain about wealth inequality these days by presenting it as some sort of new concept. Great video.
Love Thomas Dolby!
When will the hardcover version be available
Por dios I had no idea of this side of Thomas Dolby/Robertson. Those rich-people pastimes, like yachting, horse racing, all that kind of thing, is another universe to me. No idea what it consists of, nor why anyone would want to do it. Maybe that novel would provide some insight.
Watch old movies. B&W. It's all there.
@@kathleenferguson3296 I'm sure I have seen some, at some time or other. I don't know if they really convey the feeling of the experience. So far I just don't see the attraction.
Its just the rich mana version of a horse race, like western type shiz, just a little more regal. Boating on a scale worthy of putting a model of yours in a bottle. Trinkety and novel amusement with the money to do it on a grand scale
wow... looks interesting....
03:10
"Labor is Entitled to all its Produces
Join the IWW."
Interesting acronym for what was just about to come.
Did sailing yachts get any bigger than they were back then? Do any of those boats still sail today?
Thomas Dolby I never knew he was on here. I actually wouldn’t have recognized him.
O you're not that guy in the videograph, you're my cousin David Hoffman. My 5g grandmother a Hoffman I don't know whether she was born in Germany, but her son in the census was of Maryland. We discussed this already. They appear to have been converso papists.
How little it has changed.
The industrialists, oh, here we go again.
Help us all!!! Please don't leave anyone out.
😂
Every child of every long-abidin family of the British Isles is a descendant of Teia Tephi, hence of Zedekiah, hence of David ben Jesse. Also, hence of Jeremiah, hence of Aaron. and Levi.
Larry Ellison is still spending billions on yacht racing
Classic Brit to say the US wasn’t the foremost country at the turn of the century. It had already surpassed the British Empire in GDP a decade earlier. To be fair, I suppose not everyone had caught on to that yet.
Talk about reading the room.
Your a novelist or not David 😅 go for it
What’s the song 1:24
One of Thomas's songs.
David Hoffman Filmmaker
They blinded each other with science.
Taxes, come on everybody knows taxes are for the peasants. Duh!
The more things Change , the more they stay the Same !
3:30 sure Larry Ellison in the San Francisco Bay
Rhode Island was not the last state without an income tax. There are still some free states that have never taxed income.
I live in WA state - zero income tax
Humorous abuse of a verb as a noun, without first convertin it to a gerund, used to be humorous. The newer generations have failed to have been taught that it is not a legitimate formation, hence it is no longer seen as an exception that makes it to be humorous.
Examples:
Have a go(in)
A good read(in)
A photographic shoot(in).
So long as it is understood that it is a humorous deliberate abuse, oK. But if it be used as though it were legitimate, then that is reprehensible, therefore, until proper education and racial boundaries be re-established, we regard it as subversive and inimical.
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Life on Earth is so so short. Eternity is forever... It's like the vastness of the Universe... It's not that difficult to imagine... I wouldn't trade the wealth of the world for an eternity in Hell. Redemption isn't for the arrogant... It's for the innocent.
Let me guess. Personal gratification with a mousetrap and a bottle of Rye.
It's an ill wind that blows no good between the devil and the deep blue sea.
No state tax.... WOW lol
actually there was not even any Federal income tax until 1913. Rhode Island was the last state to implement it because the power of its wealthy residents!
@@thomasdolbyya the way he described it is confusing. There are still a few states without a state income tax. He meant to say federal income tax.
@@thomasdolbyAnd that's how the rich got richer!
@@Lex_Lugar You're speaking in the third person but the guy you are replying to is in fact the gentleman from the video. Also, no, I think it was pretty clear what he meant.