Zenless Zone Zero vs Punishing Gray Raven: Combat

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  • čas přidán 23. 07. 2024
  • Unbiased version:
    • Punishing Gray Raven v...
    [Punishing Gray Raven] Official Site:
    pgr.kurogame.net/#Home
    [Zenless Zone Zero] Official Site:
    zenless.hoyoverse.com/en-us/
    @Wallensteinsch ZZZ GAMEPLAY:
    • HOW TO ZENLESS ZONE ZE...
    BGM:
    • 【GhostFinal】HIKARI 「Pu...
    @rexlent PGR GAMEPLAY:
    • 【PGR CN】OVERSPEED ft. ...
    BGM:
    • 【GhostFinal & FLuoRiTe...
    Chapters:
    0:00 - intro
    0:10 - ZZZ
    0:56 - PGR
    2:39 - End
    #zzz #pgr #punshinggrayraven
    s/
  • Hry

Komentáře • 316

  • @Hentai-x4p
    @Hentai-x4p  Před 15 dny +64

    The comment section is frozen since [July 19, 2024] Don't waste your time commenting and replying a whole paragraph about why ZZZ is better or why PGR is better.
    Here's the unbiased version:
    czcams.com/video/wjQEBROVseI/video.htmlsi=I7nfWOoR4NefGrx0

  • @kyarumomochi5146
    @kyarumomochi5146 Před 14 dny +122

    PGR is an overkill dude

  • @Stanger_95
    @Stanger_95 Před 25 dny +408

    PGR has a huge focus on it's combat. It may not have story voice acting, that many cutscenes or semi open world exploration that ZZZ offers, but it's combat is the best and is on a whole other overwhelming level, and that is why PGR stands as my #1 ARPG. Along with its music PGR provides the best and the most satisfying action combat ever. The Dev's choose focus mostly on one aspect, that is the action, and are the best in it.

    • @Crimson_Plume
      @Crimson_Plume Před 24 dny +74

      And now we have hub worlds and we can costumize our commandant, yea PGR is cooking 🔥

    • @GlobalGlorypgr
      @GlobalGlorypgr Před 22 dny +7

      To the fact that you don't even consider the story, no story = no character take that fact.

    • @hijodelsoldeoriente
      @hijodelsoldeoriente Před 21 dnem +78

      And the funny thing is, even the story and lore is top-tier overall. Especially on some chapters like Cinder Burns or Surviving Lucem.

    • @TXT-im7dn
      @TXT-im7dn Před 21 dnem +67

      ​@@GlobalGlorypgrPersonally i think the story is the most interesting thing about pgr , even characters side stories are really good
      better than some main stories

    • @Genoss9410
      @Genoss9410 Před 19 dny +2

      J'aimerais tellement jouer à pgr mais il n'a toujours pas de traduction francais 😢

  • @Nakirakira
    @Nakirakira Před 26 dny +202

    ZZZ combat gameplay : bgm Hikari from PGR XD

    • @qeinz
      @qeinz Před 7 dny +9

      damn I was like "at least ZZZ bgm goes harder". turns out it's from PGR lol

  • @jm8165
    @jm8165 Před 17 dny +130

    zzz combat: zzz
    PGR combat anime level cinematics

  • @jabzkeepit3519
    @jabzkeepit3519 Před 17 dny +274

    After playing ZZZ and then play PGR. All I can say is that ZZZ will never give me the same amount of adrenaline rush as much as PGR no matter how many future updates it will receive.

    • @akira8393
      @akira8393 Před 14 dny +13

      Unless they actually improve the combat. I don't think I'd be playing it anytime soon

  • @zamirroa
    @zamirroa Před 12 dny +47

    In pgr you have to have good eyes if you use bloom in effects

    • @rjanik2588
      @rjanik2588 Před 12 dny +11

      I found someone at last, who has sensitive eyes as me, my bloom and some settings set to 0 for that reason

  • @ryujisusapphire9511
    @ryujisusapphire9511 Před 18 dny +388

    Both are great. Because all I can say is, Genshin could never.

    • @narukamishirou284
      @narukamishirou284 Před 17 dny +46

      It’s not even a competition anymore in this case: Genshin is already stuck on their standard which is a huge line that if they cross it might as well say the creative team is dead. They make parrying available for every characters then Beidou, Yunjin, and Candace lose their creative concepts. They make staggering and stunning a major thing in gameplay then might as well throw the “already plummeting” elemental reaction system to the incinerator. One thing Genshin could however…is adjusting the Character Switch for combat

    • @Markeveli237
      @Markeveli237 Před 17 dny +3

      Poor Genshin

    • @Just-An-Average-Guy
      @Just-An-Average-Guy Před 17 dny +3

      ​​@@narukamishirou284yeah i don't think i'd say zzz's combat is better than genshin's (like most people say), because both are just too different, genshin is a more casual game with simpler mechanics whilst zzz is more frenetic and needs quicker reaction times, with each character having multiple different attack styles the player can choose, and imho both games are great overall

    • @lookingforgoodthing1035
      @lookingforgoodthing1035 Před 16 dny +1

      Beidou crying in genshin 😅

    • @Kanroji_Mitsuri..
      @Kanroji_Mitsuri.. Před 16 dny

      If they could sorta give a combat rework to Genshin, then Genshin would be up there. Theres no real dodge mechanic in Genshin, only dashing which was only really made for fast travel. On top of that, it took them many versions to actually start making more detailed animations like for what they did with Arlecchino and Clorinde. Also the characters stun themselves way too much and it leaves them open to getting hit at any time. Genshin’s damage scaling is fine, the open world is fine, the gameplay in itself is fine.. but the combat ruins it. A lot.

  • @cripplingdepression213
    @cripplingdepression213 Před 12 dny +11

    And that's why I played zzz. You can say I have skill issue as you want but I'm aging and I can't keep up with this kind of combat even tho I played DMC before. Casual games for casual player.

  • @LunarityYT
    @LunarityYT Před 17 dny +107

    Kurogames is a fromsoft of gacha games

    • @tristantang6325
      @tristantang6325 Před 17 dny +20

      I'd say they're more like platinum games because of combat, but platinum hasn't been doing so hot recently lmao

    • @swordfucker69420
      @swordfucker69420 Před 14 dny

      ​@@tristantang6325Opinion coming from a clown is no opinion at all.

  • @CarlosJogos-zs2eg
    @CarlosJogos-zs2eg Před 16 dny +22

    PGR WINS

  • @skill_issue01
    @skill_issue01 Před 17 dny +25

    PGR real shit peak action RPG

  • @pigmaleon7122
    @pigmaleon7122 Před 17 dny +70

    zzz vs punish = coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb

    • @rynox9084
      @rynox9084 Před 12 dny +2

      Exactly, bro even put hikari on zzz Background!

  • @spinylightgaming
    @spinylightgaming Před 14 dny +12

    No kidding when you said biased. Picking an unreleased boss if im correct in v3 which is only in CN for pgr while using the 1st big boss in zzz.

    • @takebacktheholyland9306
      @takebacktheholyland9306 Před 14 dny

      their pinned comment has an unbiased version

    • @spinylightgaming
      @spinylightgaming Před 14 dny

      @@takebacktheholyland9306 im not asking for the unbiased video. Im just stating the title was real. Even global hasnt even finished v2.

    • @reindunkelheit
      @reindunkelheit Před 12 dny

      To be fair, both came out in 2024 if i'm not mistaken.

    • @nox140
      @nox140 Před 12 dny +3

      @@reindunkelheit You are mistaken. PGR was released in 2019.

  • @MrAsuragrave
    @MrAsuragrave Před 17 dny +129

    No competition PGR takes the cake on combat. Before those come back with excuses that zZz(snore fest) barely came out its the same argument genshin stans or in this case zZz stans used on WuWa when it released lol. What other reasons will they go with? Their isn't hoyo has the funds, resources, , management to make it great yet they don't? lets not forget how they ignore feedback which means theyll focus on what makes them money before any endgame if they really even focus on that later on. Their track record says other wise in that area.
    Don't you find that ironic? Still I won't argue it if they still think zZz combat is greater because in the end personal taste vary by players. Just mostly wanted mention the irony of comparing both games when one is older aka Kuro with limited funds going debt for wuwa until its success to cash the cow hoyo. The fact PGR looks as good as is makes it more incredible than zZz who didn't lack money. Now that's funny.

    • @feralchimaera99
      @feralchimaera99 Před 17 dny +15

      Here's a game I would really compare it to and just like when PGR was starting it's underrated
      Aether Gazer
      This game is a bit below PGR for me but they can really cook when it comes to it.
      Sure a lot of their bosses are HP bloats but they got out of that and we're able to present bosses around month 7+ that can really give you a hard time, then soon incorporated parry system.
      The fact that PGR and Aether Gazer doesnt have much to start with but still do better on what they do shows how passionate they are with their games (sure Yongshi had funding from Azur Lane to make Aether Gazer).
      In all honesty them saying it's a casual game that you can come back to then say it's a heavy combat game in the Livestream then put "fast-paced" combat in the app store to market it, if this is how fast-paced your combat is I don't know anymore man looking at HI3rd that looked more faster.
      I'll keep playing zzz up till 1.1 and see where it's going,but knowing Hoyo I'm looking at that patch having QoLs as always with a Hoyo game
      Also Aether Gazer's fanservice? 10/10

    • @akira8393
      @akira8393 Před 14 dny +1

      ​@@feralchimaera99yeah pretty much

  • @imcat1236
    @imcat1236 Před 21 dnem +93

    Zzz combat feel like gen1 from PGR

    • @RemAndLogic
      @RemAndLogic Před 18 dny +14

      Ni tanto, la Gen1 de PGR tiene su encanto único

    • @Goob2949
      @Goob2949 Před 17 dny +27

      Worse than gen1 tbh

    • @Averageguy1221
      @Averageguy1221 Před 17 dny +20

      Ngl Gen 1 without leap is better 😂

    • @mirzataufikurahman5478
      @mirzataufikurahman5478 Před 17 dny +20

      Nah man you gotta be trippin, Rozen and Dawn is like miles better than 5 stars in zzz nevermind 4 stars, not even close

    • @wanabid98
      @wanabid98 Před 17 dny +5

      worse gen1 wasn't brain dead

  • @Snowhaletheayakamain
    @Snowhaletheayakamain Před 26 dny +187

    Hoyo dont know how to make fast paced boss fights

    • @DannyJ3636
      @DannyJ3636 Před 24 dny +85

      shush it might give players anxiety

    • @thegamiac9539
      @thegamiac9539 Před 21 dnem +9

      But man the butcher boss design is top notch ngl wish we get faster heteromer butcher in pgr

    • @broccoli5176
      @broccoli5176 Před 21 dnem +14

      Hoyo knows how to make his products popular and earn money from them. Unfortunately, this functionality is not available for Kuro

    • @NRobbi42
      @NRobbi42 Před 20 dny +15

      Someone hasn't played the Honkai Impact Abyss bosses 💀

    • @Snowhaletheayakamain
      @Snowhaletheayakamain Před 20 dny +39

      ​@@NRobbi42then why can't they do it for their other games if they did it at their game that came out first

  • @S.E.R.A.P.H
    @S.E.R.A.P.H Před 25 dny +53

    PGR win !!!

  • @kenny10188
    @kenny10188 Před 27 dny +96

    PGR stands at the pinnacle of gacha combat. However, that ZZZ boss is a step in the right direction for hoyo. It's just not enough to make it stand out for me. Especially when the characters keep saying creepy pedo lines. Like, "let me take a look-see in this child" or whatever Grace kept saying. The combat, music, and animations would have to far exceed PGR to compensate. Hoyo doesn't know how to match it, much less beat it.

    • @rainscents
      @rainscents Před 13 dny

      Damn man, never seen mom interact with their children or what? Grace is as weird as they make it to be, she is a weird parent to those mecha babies. No more, no less. Ive seen asian mom weirder than Grace to their children, and its not because they are ped, but simply too doting with their children. If you think that way, thats on you ngl 😂

  • @desork385
    @desork385 Před 12 dny +5

    I mean to be honest not every battle in pgr is like this and it takes a while before you get to this point of combat
    Tho both games are subjectively different

  • @SaikyoRei
    @SaikyoRei Před 15 dny +7

    PGR is fast-paced combat and as a beginner, I can't see upcoming attacks because of those lightning effects. Nonetheless, i love PGR because it's F2P friendly tbh. Besides, I can't wait for Shikikan fps 😂

    • @HazardTone
      @HazardTone Před 14 dny +6

      Tbf when fighting mobs their attack animation is mostly covered up by effects that's why I was focusing for sound cues of their attacks. Rather than visuals.

    • @SaikyoRei
      @SaikyoRei Před 14 dny

      @@HazardTone ong bro 😭🙏 the effects is absolutely covering enemies attacks. Plus am I the only one or I'm just beginner af cuz I just always click colored orbs every time there's appeared 💀

  • @Tis-Tee-Call
    @Tis-Tee-Call Před 14 dny +3

    me when i play PGR: ramdom bullshit GO!

  • @shagamagff8725
    @shagamagff8725 Před 27 dny +87

    Ofc PGR wins

  • @luckybun4500
    @luckybun4500 Před 20 dny +51

    now that i have played zzz all i can say about the combat of zzz is simplified hi3 with good switch combo mechanic and most of the time spam basic, the characters don't have unique skill set, like basic attack to build the gauge to be able to use E that's all there is for zzz characters, unlike pgr every character have different requirement to activate their own core passives

    • @darweath
      @darweath Před 18 dny +2

      zzz had "something" though it just need to be in character tutorial like lycaon hold atk,skill koleda 2nd,4th basic can end with skill
      pretty much it

    • @smashbrother980
      @smashbrother980 Před 17 dny +5

      Characters don't have unique skillsets? Playing Ben is completely different from playing Anby

    • @a_normal_player1800
      @a_normal_player1800 Před 17 dny +8

      ​@@smashbrother980 and does that cover the majority of the damage you dealt in combat?

    • @justanewbie972
      @justanewbie972 Před 17 dny +4

      Nah, you only spam basic attacks, and didn't read the skills description that will mention you actually can do more than just spamming basic attack. Tho I admit PGR is way better in combat gameplay than ZZZ. It's just ZZZ is way more friendly towards anyone who is new in fast paced combat, so it will reach more new players, not just hi3, AE, or PGR players.

    • @smashbrother980
      @smashbrother980 Před 17 dny +3

      @a_normal_player1800 Yes? Ellen's damage falls off if you don't play her right. Also it's not just about damage. Some characters are there to stun or buff/debuff, or spawn their summons.

  • @dvm007
    @dvm007 Před 17 dny +10

    PGR is top tier not comparable at all . I am level 32 in zzz and I have cleared 80% of the content just need to hit the next breaking point then it would be an easy clap. .

    • @akira8393
      @akira8393 Před 14 dny

      Im already 40 scrub and it still sucks

  • @leblancattire5951
    @leblancattire5951 Před 14 dny +11

    pgr does offer harder difficulty. but visual wise, I prefer zzz anyday. I can't see anything during combat in pgr, too much effects going on. ZZZ combat visual and audio are much more satisfying for me. I can see myself playing zzz for the long haul than I was with pgr on and off relationship.

  • @zekeaffy9647
    @zekeaffy9647 Před 17 dny +55

    I think if people were to make a comparison between ZZZ with Hi3 they will say the same thing for instance:
    Choose a template:
    "the game just released bruh"
    "this comparison is unfair because Hi3 example is the final boss or weeklyboss"
    "Comparing a newly released game with an old game is unfair"
    "Why did you not perform in the other game, its unfair"
    "why is the graphics for my game (insert) is low, you did that on purpose"
    "why did you turn the brightness too high"
    "why did you play this on lower settings, the games looked washed, I played on (insert specs list) on max settings.."
    And this is the data collected from seeing 10 different communities, and all say the same thing, I have concluded that:
    No one is happy no matter what you do, or if you followed what they want you to do :)
    Hey OP, post a Hi3 and it will prove me right for sure that is going to happen :)

    • @NikLoveGaming
      @NikLoveGaming Před 17 dny +12

      true, they did say ZZZ was combat focus game but it just downgrade from HI3 that's why most hoyotard really pissed off. I do not like hoyo but I did play their other game. For the sake of trying I play ZZZ and my impression was why can't they do more?
      Wuwa for instance, look at PGR now and Wuwa at new release. WuWa have crazy gameplay characters at the get go while Hoyo don't want to do that.

    • @cripplingdepression213
      @cripplingdepression213 Před 12 dny +7

      ​@@NikLoveGamingbecause they wanna get that money from casuals, tell me how many people do you think are hard core players from kids to older people?

  • @thebeee3164
    @thebeee3164 Před 17 dny +6

    yowai

  • @michaelcolin224
    @michaelcolin224 Před 15 dny +3

    Zzz is not bad game, they need to add more difficulty and more combos to the characters; right now is feel like a tutorial for RPG combat focus game.

  • @kazuyaryuzaki
    @kazuyaryuzaki Před 14 dny +2

    I can boil down what PGR look like in 1 paragraph its WTF going on in screen?

  • @thisjizz8895
    @thisjizz8895 Před 14 dny +7

    It's very simple really:
    ZZZ - story focused
    PGR - combat focused

    • @takebacktheholyland9306
      @takebacktheholyland9306 Před 14 dny +6

      Pgr mobs ZZZ in terms of story. It's literally up there with Arknights

    • @Qatang
      @Qatang Před 14 dny +8

      tell me that u have not read any of PGR story without telling me that u have not read any of PGR story

    • @thisjizz8895
      @thisjizz8895 Před 14 dny +2

      @@Qatang don't even give me that. I've played PGR since Chrome: Glory's patch and haven't skipped an update ever since. Be it an EX-Story or a Floating record.
      PGR story is definitely unique, sci-fi elements are everywhere, really screams post apocalyptic. Except, I barely see anyone talk about it cus the story often gets complicated.
      There's also barely any Voiceovers, the skip button is just up there in the corner ready to be clicked once an average casual gets bored of reading

    • @thisjizz8895
      @thisjizz8895 Před 14 dny +1

      @@Qatang PGR story is amazing. My point is, it's not really a story that'll immediately hook a casual player.

    • @ayoc5760
      @ayoc5760 Před 14 dny +5

      ​@@takebacktheholyland9306
      I don't really agree
      I tried pgr for some time and the story was so boring for me

  • @blueberry7478
    @blueberry7478 Před 17 dny +4

    That's a proper comparison, ARPG vs ARPG. Not like many people are doing it, ARPG avs OPEN WORLD (ZZZ vs Wuwa) 😤

  • @kingontherocks3903
    @kingontherocks3903 Před 16 dny +6

    PGR is God tier in combat. Only thing close is WUWA and it’s by the same company lol 😂😂😂😂

  • @arif8967
    @arif8967 Před 17 dny +5

    Coughing baby vs atomic bomb.

  • @ekzsuncz7610
    @ekzsuncz7610 Před 16 dny +27

    That's the difference :
    PGR devs is a smaller game company but this make the players to be more focused. Hence everyone is okay with more exciting and harder bosses. Everyone is also okay with characters that takes time be good at. Due to smaller budget, they are focusing more on what their niche player base wants : the gameplay a.k.a. combat. People can be more creative if they are hindered in a good way.
    ZZZ devs on the other hand, is a bigger game company that have stockholders to impressed. Hence they are trying to make the game as easy as possible to attract more players. They are also trying to make the game look good to attract even more players. You know that 50 GB download? It's full of amazing pre-rendered cutscenes, animations, and "glorified main menu" open world.
    Now I'm playing both and it's nice to alternate between them. However if one needs to go, ZZZ is the one that will go first. Fortunately I only have 2 new gacha game I'm looking forward to but both doesn't have a release date yet. So I'll be playing ZZZ for a while.

    • @Ganjamus
      @Ganjamus Před 14 dny +4

      Impressing what stockholders exactly? Hoyo is privately owned. They know their demographic and what they want to market. They're not trying to make the greatest combat game ever made, they just want to make games that people will enjoy and feel connected to. These combat comparisons between games are missing the entire point.

    • @rainscents
      @rainscents Před 13 dny +2

      ​@@Ganjamus even they themselves brand them as Tech Otakus Save the World. Hoyo just want to make cute waifus, thats it.

    • @fahikan
      @fahikan Před 13 dny +2

      Calling hoyo trying to impress stockholder is the most asinine thing ever,
      especially since kuro games is a public company and being funded by Tencent. No they're not fucking indie.

  • @deeptobhattacharyya3249
    @deeptobhattacharyya3249 Před 17 dny +12

    Normie bait vs a Game with focus

    • @billyalbani7771
      @billyalbani7771 Před 17 dny +2

      Well, hoyo also have "game with focus" type Category and became Kuro's inspiration to create pgr, its called honkai impact 3rd. Hoyo just make a new game with more chill fight in it and also more effort, on graphic and animation, and gues what? Its very good, then why people hate it? I dont understand, zzz its a beautiful free game i ever play.

    • @jabzkeepit3519
      @jabzkeepit3519 Před 14 dny +13

      @@billyalbani7771You can create a chill fighting game but it also has to not be boring for everyone.
      ZZZ is created as a combat focused game and they failed at creating a good combat system. A fighting game must come with risk and reward. What’s the point for staggering/stunning your opponent when it barely attacks you? What’s the point of dodging/parrying when the enemy could barely deal damage on you? What’s the point of building an optimal team when you can beat the whole game with support characters?

    • @takebacktheholyland9306
      @takebacktheholyland9306 Před 14 dny +2

      Pgr is the opposite of Normie bait, chapter 1-8 is an anti-casual mechanism that frustrates normies

    • @thisjizz8895
      @thisjizz8895 Před 14 dny +1

      ​@@takebacktheholyland9306 Lol. It's almost like Chapter 1-8 is basically the "The Filtering" (Ascent net)

    • @takebacktheholyland9306
      @takebacktheholyland9306 Před 14 dny +1

      ​@@thisjizz8895its literally Kuro's version of Ascnet's filtering

  • @Gearise
    @Gearise Před 12 dny +5

    PGR is basically the mobile fromsoft of ARPG

  • @kaitodelucky7652
    @kaitodelucky7652 Před 12 dny +5

    Haha, i can feel it, ZZZ is so slow 🤣

  • @masterfer6576
    @masterfer6576 Před 18 dny +11

    Need play some Babel Tower……😂😂😂😂😂

  • @parz576
    @parz576 Před 16 dny +4

    ZZZ have better Storytelling, Voice Acting and Off-Combat Gameplay
    PGR have an insanely better Combat and Mechanics
    So make your pick.

    • @HazardTone
      @HazardTone Před 14 dny +3

      PGR story still peak and even better than Genshin and HSR.
      And this was a comparison of combat VA and Off combat gameplay is not on the table.

    • @muffinbutton2361
      @muffinbutton2361 Před 14 dny +2

      Aggre pgr story telling is bad. But if you don't like Chinese Novel style that's it. but for overall story it's just really really damn good one of the best out there for me. Especially on spiral of chronos chapter, i really like how they portrayed the watcher as an abstract being like they're literally some kind of cosmic horror entity rather than just your typical humanoid figure with godlike power.

    • @HazardTone
      @HazardTone Před 14 dny +1

      @@muffinbutton2361 pgr doesn't have the budget to make a voiced story though they are just a small company when they started. But the entire story especially the newest one is just so damn good

    • @akira8393
      @akira8393 Před 14 dny

      What kind of choice is that? Do you want rice with sprinkles or do you want fried rice?

  • @synraxx
    @synraxx Před 17 dny +3

    It aint fair to put hikari over the zzz combat 😭

  • @segmavince1507
    @segmavince1507 Před 14 dny +1

    if u dont tell me, i would think both game release at same year

  • @trgr123
    @trgr123 Před 21 dnem +9

    ZZZ is cool but not a game for me. So I choose PGR.

  • @Yurika-rie
    @Yurika-rie Před 17 dny +2

    unfair comparison imo should use gen 1 bosses with crimson abyss alpha even then pgr still takes the cake

  • @muhammadsulaiman5471
    @muhammadsulaiman5471 Před 26 dny +32

    Zzz had to borrow help from pgr to make the fight seem good 😂

    • @NRobbi42
      @NRobbi42 Před 20 dny +6

      Didn't people used to make fun of PGR for borrowing from Honkai Impact?

    • @alphaca3541
      @alphaca3541 Před 20 dny +35

      @@NRobbi42 used to until the combat outshines honkais except for the marketing and cinematic aspects

    • @qiemyyshimee767
      @qiemyyshimee767 Před 14 dny +8

      ​@@NRobbi42has u seen hi3 gameplay nowday? yeah compare to pgr its make hi3 look like a kid game 😅

  • @user-fe4be2ql5j
    @user-fe4be2ql5j Před 14 dny +5

    Lovely reminder: PGR is a game launched 4 years ago looooool

    • @PocchiMocca
      @PocchiMocca Před 13 dny +5

      So, what's your point? Both PGR AND Hi 3rd were better at release than ZZZ. The time at which they were released matters little in that regard.
      Besides, the fact that ZZZ is newer makes it's problems and shortcomings EVEN WORSE, since it had time too learn and improve from both games, and then some

    • @user-fe4be2ql5j
      @user-fe4be2ql5j Před 13 dny

      @@PocchiMocca “people has been doing the same thing 4 years ago”

  • @seiryuu305
    @seiryuu305 Před 17 dny +4

    not even wuwa combat is as good as pgr, they could just slap open world on pgr call it a new game and ill play it

  • @RemAndLogic
    @RemAndLogic Před 18 dny +2

    Por los gameplays, solo puedo sentir que el jefe de ZZZ se ve tan fácil que siento que existe para que lo golpees, en cambio, en PGR, los jefes existen para golpearte...
    Tengo problemas de vista, y en ocasiones parpadeo de forma inconsciente, en esos pocos segundos, el jefe de PGR puede meterme la putiza de mi vida... Jajaja
    POR cierto, que tan culera está el ost de ZZZ para que tengas que usar Hikari, eso es otro nivel...

  • @misooooo
    @misooooo Před 13 dny +1

    idk why ppl have so much problem with hoyoverse decisions regarding the combat in their game. hyv has the money and the tech, pretty sure if they want to they could create a harder game combat wise. They don't want to do that and that's fine.

  • @oberon1236
    @oberon1236 Před 17 dny +10

    coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb

  • @pablotomasllodra4423
    @pablotomasllodra4423 Před 24 dny +1

    One thing is to compare a new game with another with years of updates, but putting a gameplay of a master gamer for the latter is adding salt to the wound. XD

  • @absolutelyabsolute4671
    @absolutelyabsolute4671 Před 17 dny +9

    Do ZZZ bosses stand like that, like a T pose the whole fight?
    EDIT: Mihoyo seems to have ignored the TV problem from beta test

    • @aabluequeen56
      @aabluequeen56 Před 17 dny +1

      In zzz challenge mode the boss and mob still standing like this but with a lot of hp lmao .Mihoyo doesn't know how to make moveset for mob and boss, some trash mob or elite mob in pgr is sometimes harder than the boss.

    • @g.lretro2903
      @g.lretro2903 Před 12 dny +3

      If zzz remove the tv then the game will be honkai impact 4

  • @zildgaming
    @zildgaming Před 21 dnem +12

    Never expect a good gameplay/combat from the same devs who said endgame made their players have anxiety lol

  • @itsmag1c670
    @itsmag1c670 Před 13 dny +1

    If only pgr was voiced it would've been best game for me

  • @sleepingrrandom2876
    @sleepingrrandom2876 Před 17 dny +2

    ZZZ boss does one moveset and one single attack and that's it??

    • @akira8393
      @akira8393 Před 14 dny

      What? You expect more? How dare you you bigot!😂

  • @bruh5114
    @bruh5114 Před 25 dny +14

    Correct me if I'm wrong.
    ZZZ has a separate button for parrying right?
    Or did they remove it?
    If it's still there, that's kinda meh.

  • @Swift69420
    @Swift69420 Před 15 dny +1

    No one doubts this but ZZZ is for the mobile player more than WW and PGR. I hate that WW doesn’t have an official console release it would have popped off hard. They missed out hard, that’s where all the greats like DMC GOW Elden ring came from. Unless people start speaking with their wallets ZZZ is going to be another success

    • @jabzkeepit3519
      @jabzkeepit3519 Před 14 dny +11

      PGR gameplay and mechanics are built for mobile players in mind. The orbs mechanic is one of the most innovative combat mechanic for a combat focused mobile game in its genre. The camera movement on ZZZ is worse than PGR on mobile. I barely rotate my camera on PGR mobile.
      My right thumb will always be pressing the orbs and the dodge button.

  • @FirstLast_293
    @FirstLast_293 Před 17 dny +1

    All i can say is... Epilepsy warning 😂😂😂

  • @Dauniverse
    @Dauniverse Před 16 dny +1

    Jesus christ and i thought ZZZ had enough epilepsy, PGR is gonna decease me

  • @FrizFroz
    @FrizFroz Před 14 dny +34

    IMO,
    - ZZZ: Presentation and Polish 10/10. Gameplay Mechanics 5/10
    - PGR: Presentation and Polish 5/10. Gameplay Mechanics 10/10
    WuWa is somewhere upwards of 8 in both.

  • @debdwaipayankarmakar9560
    @debdwaipayankarmakar9560 Před 17 dny +6

    I feel like pgr should introduce more bosses that can be parried

    • @a_normal_player1800
      @a_normal_player1800 Před 17 dny +9

      Lamia, heterohive mother, primal projection, boss from noctis's update: allow me to introduce myself

    • @sleepingrrandom2876
      @sleepingrrandom2876 Před 17 dny +9

      ?? All bosses after lamia can literally be parried.
      Where does bro live??

    • @debdwaipayankarmakar9560
      @debdwaipayankarmakar9560 Před 17 dny +1

      @@a_normal_player1800 yeah, that's why I said more. I love the parry mechanics in pgr. Also is that boss from Noctis update a permanent one or just an event boss?

    • @paseo8787
      @paseo8787 Před 17 dny +7

      What you in dawg? Every single boss that was released after Hetero-Hive Mother can be parried

    • @nerospapa8814
      @nerospapa8814 Před 17 dny

      ​@@a_normal_player1800 Radiant Mercher

  • @eviltuqueque8800
    @eviltuqueque8800 Před 17 dny +3

    if i counted right
    Zzz boss did a total of 6 attacks

  • @astrayvaledias7398
    @astrayvaledias7398 Před 26 dny +25

    Bruh, ZZZ for casual & some hardcore player. PGR is training ground for some casual player to become hardcore player tho.

    • @PrimordialMine
      @PrimordialMine Před 20 dny +3

      ZZZ is also quite new so this fight wasn't even fair to begin with I mean they literally compared early game of ZZZ to one of pgr newest boss

    • @Unluck-f4u
      @Unluck-f4u Před 19 dny +19

      @@PrimordialMine watch pgr alpha boss fight, its literally the first boss to fight right after tutorial and what was even zzz first boss fight

    • @crowkoraki6910
      @crowkoraki6910 Před 17 dny +9

      @@PrimordialMine don't mention first boss fight with PGR players you will lose that Arguement from the start, cause it's Alpha

    • @wanabid98
      @wanabid98 Před 17 dny +2

      @@PrimordialMine zzz can even compare with alpha the prologue boss or rosetta first event boss. they need to understand that bullet sponge are not a good boss designed.

    • @Neraux.
      @Neraux. Před 17 dny +7

      Some people didn't do research again, PGR Global first bosses are Alpha & 1st event release is Rosetta.
      Alpha is a tutorial boss and IF your a first time player legit is fast ASF and contains slight Vergil moveset's and I remember you can also no-hit run that tutorial boss after prob like 50th'ish runs which is impossible to do given our time as newbie back then.
      TLDR; ZZZ combat is shallow Vs Gen1 Contructs in PGR lmao
      Orb system of PGR is truly a unique in it's time.

  • @yuusha2150
    @yuusha2150 Před 25 dny +18

    Isn't this comparison video unfair?
    The one on ZZZ was like the first boss. And for PGR you give out some endgame boss lol

    • @jaceunknown
      @jaceunknown Před 25 dny +61

      i mean youre right. But with a track record of hoyo. They dont take risks, nor do anything fancy, they dont even listen to their audience. So i doubt theyll ever reach fast paced gameplay like kuro's. Sure comparing 1.0 to mid-late-game gameplay is unfair. But its also a fact that 1.0 combat for zzz and probably 3.0+ will still be the same. slow and pale, compared to what kuro will ever give. Even on pgr's first few weeks. Since launch, the characters in pgr are fast paced, even the first boss was fast.

    • @Sir_Ruminesq
      @Sir_Ruminesq Před 23 dny +6

      one thing i consider as unfair here is the example provided for zzz is kinda bad. One is a free 4 star, one is a standard character, both have 0 synergy, even mainly only use Anby normal attacking. It's like playing pgr w/out pressing the orbs. Hoyo's action game always designed to be played on full teams with good synergy on one another. There's a guy showcasing Ellen's ice team on this boss, i think that one has far better gameplay thus make it a more fair comparison.

    • @HowAreYou2
      @HowAreYou2 Před 22 dny +3

      well... i think first fight alpha was amazing at least

    • @HanT5247
      @HanT5247 Před 21 dnem +16

      Well, i'll say any new pgr players got cooked by alpha so... Pgr first boss is not that easy for beginner compare to zzz lol

    • @kenny10188
      @kenny10188 Před 20 dny +3

      They should know not to make boring boss fights. They did anyway. Honkai Impact's latest boss fight though, genuinely surprised me in a good way. IMO, it comes close to PGR's Hamlet. It's not a hard fight, but it's in a good direction.

  • @bitboss1385
    @bitboss1385 Před 17 dny +8

    ZZZ will kill wuwa they said 😂🤣

  • @blueberry7478
    @blueberry7478 Před 17 dny +2

    The bosses are so slow and less aggressive. 😮‍💨

  • @illuminahara
    @illuminahara Před 14 dny +2

    Bloodbath as expected

  • @k-BlazeWuthringwaves30
    @k-BlazeWuthringwaves30 Před 13 dny +1

    Rexlent our king is unmatched
    ZZZ could never . pgr Boss hp bar is always godly
    ZZZ has no 120x Hp bar .
    pgr has 120x hp bar that makes Rexlent the better pro player

  • @rullieaa2399
    @rullieaa2399 Před 12 dny

    So they want me to play pgr, perfectly timing a parry and everything while im busy with real stuffs, man zzz can be played with one hand, personally love simplicity, especially with hand injury

  • @supertaco2896
    @supertaco2896 Před 18 dny +1

    lol bro that was dirty putting ZZZ up against Luna. RIP

  • @zealblaster
    @zealblaster Před 17 dny +4

    F*** motion sickness in PGR😵‍💫

  • @HazardTone
    @HazardTone Před 17 dny +1

    The video you use for PGR is a little lackluster you should've used rexlent using Lee Hyperreal 😂. That one has a sick mid air combat that not even anime can pull off.

  • @Will-hs8vt
    @Will-hs8vt Před 17 dny +1

    I believe is a bit unfair comparing zzz first boss now vs one of the latest in pgr also alpha is just one of the goat 5* characters ever released so obviuosly pgr "looks" better with those flashy moves

  • @yuukashima3902
    @yuukashima3902 Před 14 dny

    After Playing PGR and WuWa, I began my countdown for genshin's dismal

  • @jumpforcegod6844
    @jumpforcegod6844 Před 14 dny +1

    well we are talking about agame who isnt even 1 years old yet vs a game who is 4 years old

  • @piconio
    @piconio Před 16 dny +5

    Its a shame that pgr had such a bad marketing campaign, game does not exists in a broader audience

    • @Yowai-t2w
      @Yowai-t2w Před 16 dny +4

      Fr The biggest marketing for pgr is the release of wuwa 😂

    • @ekosubandie2094
      @ekosubandie2094 Před 12 dny +2

      Vanguard Sound Studio did 99% of marketing for them with their soundtracks and that's really about it

  • @Peak_Antelope
    @Peak_Antelope Před 17 dny +3

    I'm a PGR shill but lets be honest here, it's not fair to compare a 1.0 character and boss from ZZZ to a character and boss that came out years later in PGR. PGR had much more time to cook and develop to reach the heights of Luna's Oblivion frame.

    • @MrAsuragrave
      @MrAsuragrave Před 17 dny +15

      Ill agree if hoyo was a struggling company but it ain't. Same strong man argument used on Wuwa when it came out to genshin. Really gonna let hoyo have a pass for this? Again they ain't broke, they had the time, funds, management to bring out a great game. What we get? Lets see sub par story, useless chores, yapping, snore combat which ill admit good if want to fall asleep. We all know where all the money got focus on designs, music, overbloated amount gigabytes to download lol

    • @Peak_Antelope
      @Peak_Antelope Před 16 dny

      @@MrAsuragrave fair enough ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

  • @touchedme1637
    @touchedme1637 Před 13 dny +1

    Ain't no way you just compared auto pilot ZZZ to input pgr

  • @juicebox3974
    @juicebox3974 Před 16 dny +1

    Genshin and ZZZ are for more casual players obviously, and PRG are for people who are dedicated to having a great combat experience. Which is why genshin and zzz have a wider player base. There’s no need to compare the two when they clearly are going for different audiences and excel at grabbing their attention

  • @Chihuahua-meow
    @Chihuahua-meow Před 12 dny +4

    For PGR player, i dont understand Why bother compare PGR to such a slopy game like zZz? Let the hoyoverse fans stay with their slopy games verse😂

  • @hyphen1210
    @hyphen1210 Před 17 dny +5

    ZZZ just released bruh

    • @jabzkeepit3519
      @jabzkeepit3519 Před 14 dny +7

      How could a new game be worse than a 6 years old game. They have the advantage of creating something better than its competitors from the ground up while an old game can only grow and improve from its roots.
      If WUWA can be better than Genshin that is a game from Covid, ZZZ could also do the same with PGR which also is a game from Covid, but they did not…

    • @akira8393
      @akira8393 Před 14 dny +2

      I mean when suicide squad jist released, everybody said it was shit. Nobody said "oh it jist released bro"😂

  • @normaldude3841
    @normaldude3841 Před 17 dny

    Just really wished ZZZ combat is more complex and experimentive

  • @nahrubish
    @nahrubish Před 24 dny +15

    currently PGR combat is more to chaos management rather than men combat. It is getting to more Gods combat. Just get the A rank construct for comparison
    ZZZ is just started and looks good for starter. I hope it will keep to human combat for future development.
    The most important thing is the gacha.
    which one is more generous?

    • @user-vs6xc7dk1w
      @user-vs6xc7dk1w Před 23 dny +4

      那肯定是PGR呀,你指望米哈游跟你讲慷慨,笑话🤣🤣🤣

    • @mrdylanalcala6826
      @mrdylanalcala6826 Před 22 dny +18

      Pgr

    • @HowAreYou2
      @HowAreYou2 Před 22 dny +13

      should've choose noctis gameplay instead

    • @TXT-im7dn
      @TXT-im7dn Před 21 dnem +4

      ​@@HowAreYou2Noctic gameplay are really cool and interesting without being too complicated,
      now i think about it wuthering Waves characters generally have the same fight style just defferent animation, while at least compared to pgr which is shame cause it is the same company

    • @villaniousmustache4898
      @villaniousmustache4898 Před 20 dny +7

      ​@@TXT-im7dnwhile I'll disagree with you, because that last part made no sense, jinshi is charging up her attack, yinlin is hybrid main dps or support DPS, jianxin builds barriers by holding down buttons, encore is straight up smash to win, verina is build charges to increase your damage! I can literally go on and say how wrong that is not out of malicious attitude but because if you gonna slander wuwa, at least play the game

  • @Tsu-375
    @Tsu-375 Před 18 dny +5

    Overused parry, slow time when switch, no dodge penalty(stamina), good for some people who struggling with pgr

    • @Yowai-t2w
      @Yowai-t2w Před 16 dny +1

      nah Even though I have skill issues I ain't gonna leave pgr.

  • @coconutplayer7763
    @coconutplayer7763 Před 17 dny +3

    Zzz gameplay is literally zzz

  • @ray_rzior7978
    @ray_rzior7978 Před 27 dny +19

    pgr wins😂

  • @haruyanto8085
    @haruyanto8085 Před 14 dny

    PGR makes you feel like a god.
    ZZZ makes you feel like you fight gods.

  • @deus2645
    @deus2645 Před 17 dny +1

    Classic PGR cant see sheit

  • @ZennyTheMama
    @ZennyTheMama Před 17 dny

    lol

  • @willbill-is4pt
    @willbill-is4pt Před 16 dny +2

    offtopic but the pgr ui, at least on the screen, looks so clunky and cluttery

    • @Hentai-x4p
      @Hentai-x4p  Před 16 dny +4

      Well, that's a custom UI; here's the normal UI: images.app.goo.gl/ryRDVfTfqzzNwumH8

    • @aabluequeen56
      @aabluequeen56 Před 16 dny +11

      Dude that's a custom ui. Every pgr player have thier own custom ui to play the game smoother lol

    • @willbill-is4pt
      @willbill-is4pt Před 16 dny

      @@aabluequeen56 nice to know

  • @sampletext69420
    @sampletext69420 Před 20 dny +10

    However ZZZ graphics kinda better ngl

    • @Nakirakira
      @Nakirakira Před 20 dny +12

      True , but if PGR had better graphics some people might not be able to play the game on their potato phones lmao

    • @kracxkmovic1323
      @kracxkmovic1323 Před 20 dny +8

      pgr 4.5 year..

    • @HowAreYou2
      @HowAreYou2 Před 20 dny +6

      fr but pgr got the gameplay tho

    • @0_0_ZER0
      @0_0_ZER0 Před 19 dny

      Yup

    • @ShadowCrK
      @ShadowCrK Před 19 dny +13

      Bruh do you have eyes can't you see how beautiful the graphics of pgr than Zenless

  • @nekochen
    @nekochen Před 13 dny

    ZZZ is nothing like PGR tho, PGR was made to compete with Honkai 3rd, should make a video with that... oh also, make one with the recent version 6.8 and higher for better graphic.
    Kuro games has been doing this for ages. miHoyo makes Gun Girl Z, Kuro makes Twintail on Battlefield to compete. miHoyo makes Honkai 3rd, Kuro makes PGR to compete. Hoyoverse makes Genshin, Kuro makes a combat focused Genshin called Wuthering Waves. Hoyo and Kuro has a history like a lovers quarrel or something... Don't be surprised if Kuro announces their next game is going to be turn-based lol

  • @ethanwebster3764
    @ethanwebster3764 Před 14 dny +2

    I hate the orbs in pgr so zzz wins for me

    • @akira8393
      @akira8393 Před 14 dny +2

      I played aether gazer. No orbs

  • @HazardTone
    @HazardTone Před 14 dny

    J

  • @rei19A
    @rei19A Před 11 dny +4

    Nah PGR win

  • @Dan24305
    @Dan24305 Před 14 dny +1

    Punishing Gray Raven God. Zenles zone zero 💩

  • @xx.1025
    @xx.1025 Před 17 dny +1

    I do not like( 💤)

  • @rippercyclotron3803
    @rippercyclotron3803 Před 18 dny +6

    Man those are ugly skin effects. I prefer the original for luna

    • @Zenith_E
      @Zenith_E Před 16 dny +1

      I don't know but for some reason, I agree. Default skin is better

  • @Tlhfkej
    @Tlhfkej Před 16 dny +1

    ZZZ W

  • @iquit5458
    @iquit5458 Před 17 dny +2

    When you have to compare with a 6 years old game 💀

    • @wakuwaku9920
      @wakuwaku9920 Před 17 dny +13

      Even PGR beginner boss was more better than the zzz bosses

    • @iquit5458
      @iquit5458 Před 17 dny

      @@wakuwaku9920 bosses and mobs both are same in Zzz they shine this light every time before atk and that's it.

    • @a_normal_player1800
      @a_normal_player1800 Před 17 dny +4

      ​@@iquit5458 did you know that alpha's sword waves and stun draw(the one that freezes the character) don't shine red? Well now you know

    • @sonlo6188
      @sonlo6188 Před 17 dny +5

      ​@@iquit5458tutorial boss and first bosses in pgr have the warn light but that still make no sense cuz barely half of their atk have warn light and even with that, some warned skill release at the same frame with the light. So it just that difference

    • @AiR_Supremacy
      @AiR_Supremacy Před 17 dny +3

      4.5 year old game ☝️🤓