RCBS 9460 Automatic Bench Priming Tool - First Impressions
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- RCBS Automatic Bench Priming Tool - First Impressions. Testing this priming system with Starline 45 cowboy brass.
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I love mine...just like an RCBS press it'll be here long after any of us will be and will be passed down and enjoyed by future generations. There's aftermarket upgrades available as well (I assume still available) that allows adjustable depth precision.
Thanks for the info.
No need for adjustable depth primer seating. Seat them all the way to the bottom of the primer pocket. This loads the anvil and they are ready to pop. No reason to have your firing pin finish seating the primer. All of the internal ballistic #'s will be better, more consistent with primers fully seated. After 40 years in this game, one can't help but pick up on a few things. 😊
@@luvtahandload7692 I would be lying if I told you I preferred adjustable depth tools. I too have been reloading better than 40 year and while I myself prefer feel to set the anvil many don't and Jesse has stated many times that he has a muscle disease so I made the assumption an adjustable depth setting would help him as he may not be able to consistently feel the primers bottom out and the anvil set. I will say this though...if the brass ain't all the same including lot...adjustable tools ain't worth the time fooling with IMO.
A little bit about different brands and types of primers.
Which ones to use, when and why.
All CCI and Reminton primer, plus Winchester's small pistol are the safest to use in automatic priming tools.
Federal burns hotter and cleaner, yet are according to the Richard Lee manual "one tough dragon to control in the automatic priming systems".
Modern Reloading Second Edition Richard Lee Revised 2021, page 60:
To find out why some brand primers explode violently, I talked to an expert, Dave Anderson, now retired from CCI. He told me primers are charged with one of two types of charging compound. One is called "basic" and the other is "normal." The primers that use "basic compound" must not be used in Lee Priming tools because an accidental discharge is very violent. The "normal compound" is less violent and causes little damage to the tool. The user is easily protected by safety glasses.
Metallic Cartridge reloading, Robert S. L. Anderson, page 20:
In the firearms industry there are two types of lead styphnate primer compounds - "normal" and "basic." There are presently four manufacturers of primers in the U.S., and all of them except one uses the normal lead styphnate primer compound. Federal is the only manufacturer that presently uses basic . The common ingredient to all small arms primers is lead styphnate of which there are several different varieties. Basically it is in crystalline form and is very explosive. Normal lead styphnate is composed of large irregular crystals, which are slightly acidic when wet, somewhat more brisant at lower temperatures (good for military use), and they burn with a cool flame at ambient temperatures. However, it is somewhat harder to get an even mix of components in normal lead styphnate primers because of the larger irregular crystals and the fact that the "mix" often requires some metallic fuels (such as powdered aluminum) to help make a magnum primer. Basic lead styphnate is composed of small regular crystals and unlike the normal mix is not as acidic and will not attack primer cups when wet. Basic lead styphnate is easier to mix than normal variety and there is no need to add metallic fuels. The basic primer flame is very hot and will easily ignite most powders and therefore Federal does not offer a magnum pistol primer. However this style primer is slightly less brisant at very low temperatures (- 20degrees F. to - 40 degrees F.) which would make normal primer more suitable for military purposes.
Metallic Cartridge Reloading, All New Third Edition, M.L. McPherson, page 29:
Certain brands of primers might be unsafe to use in some priming tools like Lee's AutoPrime because of the potential for mass detonation. With these tools, should an operator detonate one primer, as can happen when a handloader tries to seat one primer on top of another, the detonation subjects other primers in the tray to shock and an incandescent flash. If this shock and flash can detonate a second primer, there is the potential that most or all (perhaps 100 or more) primers in the tray might detonate en masse. Such a simultaneous detonation would be a disaster. Lee has tested all available primers and, excepting CCI and Winchester, all brands produce an unacceptable number of mass explosions when the primer being seated is forced to detonate (by heating in a remote explosion-proof box). By comparing Federal and CCI primers, we can gain some understanding why brands very in this regard. Federal primers do not have a foil covering over the primer pellet; an application of a type of paint replaces the foil. That sealant is easily ignited and highly flammable, possessing a very low kindling temperature. These are beneficial characteristics; among other things, they help reduce combustion residues. However, use of this pellet sealant makes these primers very easy to ignite. Exposure of the open front of the cup to the flash from an adjacent primer easily does the job! Conversely, CCI primers have a paper foil almost completely covering the front of the pellet. This foil deters pellet ignition because it is only moderately combustible and has a relatively high kindling temperature. A short duration flash from a primer is unlikely to ignite the foil or penetrate through it to ignite the pellet underneath.
I've had one of these bench primers since the early 90's it's all I use for priming. A word of caution if you start dragging out an extra primer the cause is likely that the stem and primer cup which screw together have come loose. I make it a habit to just just snug it up right before I drop it into the shell holder. Then your good to go for around a thousand primers. That's the only problem I've ever had with it except the primer cup and spring wears out after about 30,000 primes. They make a repair kit of 2 new complete stems,springs and cups for around $10 but I just called RCBS to order one and they just sent it to me for free. Love RCBS service.
Thanks for the info and watching.
Nice been using one for 40yrs
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I'm still trying to find one the old, discontinued RCBS Ram Strip Primers. Fast priming with great leverage for those tight primer pockets. Thanks Jesse!
Thanks for watching.
2 things with that primer tool the seating steam can come loose and cause problems you have to pull the steam back by hand and you will see a very small hole you put like a small pen through it and make sure it's tight and the other thing that will cause problems is the bearing with the spring can get gummed up and cause feeding problems so keep that clean if your is not running smoothly then one of the 2 things probably needs attention.
Thanks for the info.
I have one, it works great.👍
I’m liking it.
Sweeeeeet!!❤❤❤❤ glad it worked out!!
I’m going to really like it. Thanks!
Best priming tool in the business...and I've used them all. Seats the primer in the cup perfectly, every time. No more guessing if the primer is bottomed out, or squeezing by hand. Why anyone would want to still use a hand held priming tool is beyond me!
I’m liking it so far. Thanks for watching.
Been looking at one of these for a while, i'll be getting one soon thanks! Just wish I had someone to give me one!! LOL...
Yes they are a little pricey but seem to be well worth it.
video is excellent
Thanks for watching.
Jesse. Good video. That works slick. Thanks for sharing. Take care.
Thanks for watching.
Now I’ll round out with a few horror stories - {these are not meant to scare you away from reloading but rather to encourage you to always follow all the safety precautions and heed the warnings in the manuals for a safe and long Handloading journey}.
Any Shoot Will Do, The A-Square Handloading and Rifle Manual, page 16:
Let’s start with guys who didn’t read the safety chapter. All of these are real incidents involving experienced reloaders.
#1, A commercial handloader producing handgun cartridges in quantity used to begin his day by filling a coffee can with primers to pour into the machine. He would pull out each tray and, with a flick of the wrist, empty it into the can. One day he used too much flick: one primer went off, initiating a chain reaction that filled the air with shrapnel and cost him both his eyes." [a commercial reloader that thought about how many rounds he had loaded and never had a problem whereby he did not bother with safety or safety glasses, until one day he wished he had taken heed to the warnings, but it was too late by then.]
The Complete Handloader, John Wootters, page 37:
The Power of Primers
Never under estimate the potency of priming compounds. ... a workman at a priming manufacturing facility was carrying a bucket of loose primers ... and the whole bucket detonated. ... they never found any part of the workman except his shoes.
An acquaintance of mine had ... about a hundred rifle primers detonate in a plastic medicine vial in his left hand. He lost his hand and the sight in his left eye, and he underwent a series of operations for cosmetic repairs to his face, arm, and upper body, suffering a great deal of pain, a staggering financial setback, and the loss of part of his livelihood. He was a gunsmith.
Primer Precautions
Such tragedies illustrate the inherent explosive power of small-arms primers, but they can be avoided totally by understanding and adhering to a few simple precautions. The first is never store primers in any kind of container other than the original factory packaging. The second is go back and reread that last sentence several times. Do not keep live primers, however few, loose in any sort of miscellaneous container, and most especially not one made of glass.
A fellow CZcamsr told a story of hand priming in his Lazyboy chair when one went off. They found the lid to the primer tray stuck in the ceiling above the chair. According to the story it had just missed his face. So be extra sure not to have it aimed at your face when hand priming with these tools. And safety glasses would be a very good idea as mentioned throughout all the reloading manual over and over again.
Thank you. I have quoted that story from John Wooter's book a few times, including to a certain "ultimate reloader" who has stored primers in empty bullet boxes. SMH
Im liking it
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Cool! I really like mine, too! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
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looks like it makes life easier
Yes it does 👍🇺🇸
Like mine for a lot of primers to do
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How much for the Frankford Arsenal hand primer you have sitting around? I got scammed trying to buy one online 🙃
I’m not sure if I want to let it go yet. I’ll let you know.