Airliner capability in updated 1973 Cessna 182 - IFR Flying hands off!
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- čas přidán 4. 09. 2019
- A long one, tightly packed with IFR goodness from Dennis my mentor CFI!
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Nice video! Your videos have inspired me to become a student pilot and to follow my dreams! Thank you so much.
This right here is what it is all about! Thank you for telling me the content resonates with you!
@@FlightChops It sure is! Love ya man, keep uploading and doing the great work!
Congrats Max I became a student a few months back at 54.
@@DirtNerds Heh. Quite the age difference. Currently 16 lol!
@@deephorizon1365 just saying never too young never too old! Go for it!
Dennis seems like an awesome CFI. So calm and collected and so knowledgeable!
man you got that right - that guy should win some kind of award.
I agree, he was very cool, calm and knowledge. He did a great job explaining everything so it was easy to understand and told him why it was doing what it was doing.
It's really great to see a bloke who takes pride in his aeroplane's appearance - pulling out the cloth to wipe the bugs off the cowl inlets, spinner, etc. What a gem of an aeroplane.
"It's like a daycare. Most of the kids are pretty good, but one of the kids likes to pick up power tools" 🤣 Dennis is such a cool CFI.
When are you going to publish some of the stuff you shot from your trip to Alaska last summer?
I loved his description here! I also got a kick out of his description of being mentally overwhelmed as a “helmet fire“ which gave me a chuckle! Sometimes it feels like that.
You sure remember what he says. Maybe that’s the idea...🤔
I like how the instructor doesn't just say he's over IFR fixes inbound to an uncontrolled field. He's right....that is meaningless to VFR targets.
"The autopilot VS/IAS wheel should be considered as a trim!" That is a eureka moment for me. It finally makes sense as it previously felt counter-intuitive! Thank you for making us better pilots. Greetings from Europe
I love these longer episodes with less cuts - it makes for a great learning experience
Nothing better than a laid back Flight Instructor!
Sweet, Dennis the cool CFI is back. I feel that in the most stressful situation Dennis will say" it's alright I got this" in his cool deminer way. What a great airplane. May you both be safe and continue to have the time of your life.
Instrument check ride was completed today for me 👍🏼
Quick comment about canceling IFR. Dennis explains it well saying that if there's no chance that a cloud will obscure your approach then cancel. Chops comes back with, "what if you have to overshoot/ do a missed approach?" Great question! The answer here is that if the ceilings are high enough to do VFR laps in the pattern, then you are fine to cancel. If you are canceling IFR that far out, the ceiling should be high enough that you won't do the publish missed if you have to go around due to a bulked landing. You'd just go into the VFR traffic pattern.
"One of them likes to pick up power tools." 😂 Gotta love Dennis.
Before attempting to use automation especially in inclement weather, it is essential to understand the system logic, I agree with Denis 100%. I like his teaching method, hands on, calm but very effective. I loved the analogy between the vertical speed dial and trim wheel, brilliant! Great video 👍
Wow, I don't think I realized just how integrated ILS & AP could be. That was amazing, and, pilot load was virtually nil. It took more effort to describe its capability than to fly the plane. Granted, the whole flight WAS VFR, allowing for serious comfort for both PIC & cinematographer (pilot!) AND a Skylane is a pretty stable craft (weigh/flow/design) with a fat safe envelope creating a level of ease (watching). But, even with a low blood pressure teacher, the in depth explanation of what & why each step was done, the actual 'flight time' was exceptionally brief & uneventful. I really loved the suspend time at hitting the waypoints- wow, that is pretty awesome that it 'knows' to leave some space to grab the line! one onethousand, two onethousand, three onethousand....TURN NOW!
I've watched experienced pilots struggle harder with less integrated systems and more complex craft, so- I was ready (napkin in hand, actually) for a 30 minute sweat fest!
THAT WAS AWESOME!
David, they weren't doing an ILS approach, they were doing an RNAV GPS to LPV minimums. But if they were doing an ILS approach it would do the exact same thing! When they select the approach in the GTN 650, it'll tune the NAV radio to the correct frequency. You'd just have to identify it with the morse code and you'd be good to go.
@@nickbike Sorry, the excitement of the moment. EXTREMELY cool RNAV GPS system!!! One definitely needs to know: what, when & how you give the system data (flight levels at waypoints at transition to pattern entry) but, since there is such reduced pilot load if it doesn't happen, you could correct it (program) and/or hand fly it re-engage. Great teacher, great system & good video. Length was needed to show the complexity of data input & how to adjust.
Excellent video explaining the true pros and cons of automated flight. I loved what he said “ if u have a robot flying your aircraft, u need to know how to turn the robot off” I’m gonna remember that one. Auto pilot is an excellent safety feature and this describes exactly how is should be looked upon and used. Very wise man. Thank you flightchops for a video that will certainly aid the aviation community 👍👍🇬🇧
I love listening to Dennis speak about how the change in avionics, which required changes in the servos, etc... When I saw this was 32 minutes+, I was afraid this might be a bit boring, but I found it very interesting because of the commentary from Dennis...
I appreciate that you did not make this a two-parter. It isn't always easy to find the other half. Sometimes part two doesn't get uploaded until weeks after you were hot to see it. (Not talking bout you.)
I'm watching on my Android; not on a 160-inch plasma screen (that I don't have) so instrument and control close-ups are much appreciated. 🛩️
11:30 Talking about airplanes, at sunset, at a peaceful, beautiful airport, listening to crickets. Isn't that awesome?
The workmanship is exceptional in all details, including those frequently neglected like trimming and panel covers. You can tell everything was curated down to the sub-mm detail.
@ 15:15...
“...ding, ding, the French fries are done...” 😜
Great video with Dennis! 😎
That upholstery colour scheme is absolutely awesome!
I never truly appreciated what a great mentor you have. I envy to be an instructor that is as chilled and proficient as Dennis. Your hard work paid off, this video is awesome.
You can tell Dennis is a CFI, a total professional, that's the difference between him and Osama. Dennis teaches and encourages. I sense a bit of attitude or frustration when you're learning something new and I've noticed it in a few videos. Relax and enjoy these opportunities that you're fortunate enough to have. Good vid!
I definitely wouldn’t describe myself as having an attitude, but I am definitely frustrated. Dennis is helping me get through it, but my schedule is not favorable for any sort of focused training, so the IFR road has been a hard one for me
Awesome! I like watching you learn Steve, because you seem to think a lot like me in the training environment. You see the small differences between what you’re taught and expected to do on a check flight, and what you might be doing in the real world, and you’re smart enough to be skeptical and inquire about which is right. Dennis is a fantastic instructor and does a great job explaining the hows and whys. Especially the whys of certain procedures or timing of procedures. He’s good at not only telling you what you need to do, but why you need to do it, and why you need to do it the way that you do it. This is an area I’ve seen a lot of instructors fall short. They are really good at telling you what you need to do, but not so good at telling you why. So when what you need to do conflicts with something else you need to do it can create points of confusion. But Dennis shows you the common sense approach to why you need to do what you’re doing. I hope this comment made sense. Lol!! Nice work!!!
The C182 you flew in this video is my dream aircraft. The panel, the autopilot, everything about it, well... not the seats lol. It's stable enough for instrument training, fast enough to be a good travelling aircraft, slow enough to build time comfortably, simple enough that annuals aren't terrible (until it's time to overhauls the engine). Great video!
Holy smokes I was thinking “I wonder when Flightchops will drop his next video?” Like 10 minutes ago!! This is probably one of the coolest videos yet!
Glad you kept it long and left in the good conversations. Dennis was very informative and calm.
Dennis is a freaking legend. I’m gunna get back into flying. I learnt to fly in the old days with pencil and paper and a ruler to navigate. Love the info on what is possible these days. Thanks.
“Turn the robot off”, best lesson to teach every new pilot.
Great work . I own a C-182P ( 1975). I am planing to up grade to G5 and the autopilot and this video reaffirm my decision. Thank you.
Thanks Steve - I do love the longer videos!
Loved the longer video and the cool breakdown of the garmin stuff. Keep up the good work and can not wait to see what’s next!
LOVED this video! Thank you so much for putting in the extra work and sharing your journey with us. Stay safe.
I haven't flown one in forever, but I agree with Dennis about the 182.... great airplanes. I did not realize that about their safety record, but I am not surprised. Such a solid platform and great all around machine.
Excellent video Steve. Enjoyed this one very much.
Excellent edit. Informative and quality production as always. Thanks!
Superb video Steve. Very well done, and a beautiful old Cessna brought back to life..... better than new.
Beautiful plane and excelent panel.... congrats and thanks for sharing
Cool video Steve. Thanks for keeping it long! And what a sweet 182. A real treasure of an airplane.
Dennis is such a laid back sorta guy, AND he speaks at the right speed so that you can understand what he said. Nice one.👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻😎
Your friend and instructor is awesome, he is so smooth
I really enjoyed this video and I appreciate you leaving it long since it seemed packed with info. My simulator is similar in layout to the panel on this beautiful,if a bit dated, 182. That’s one of my favorite flying airplanes of all time. Thanks for another fine video. I always enjoy your work.
Awesome job editing Flight Chops! Loving this IFR content as I’m working on mine too! My flying club has a couple aircraft that use the gtn650; and we should be getting G5’s soon as they gyros where out. I’m also trying to talk them into a new autopilot. This 182 has the dream IFR avionics suite. Thanks again for sharing!
One of your best video's yet man! Loved seeing Dennis again.
Your attitude is top notch sir ! Thank you and good flying.
You have made a complicated task easy to absorb..Great job
Great choice by you and your patreon supporters, and even with a peripheral insight into airline automation Dennis done a fantastic job passing on what he saw in the Dash 8.
Since watching all these videos from multiple other sources including your own, as well as my own passion I've always had for flying, I finally decided to setup my intro flight and start working on my flight training! Super excited to start this new chapter in my life.
Nice video and ..... Wow !!!, what an instructor Dennis is, so calm in his voice and explains things in a very simple way. Nice airplane too, an oldie but a goodie. I really enjoyed this video, thanks.👍👍
Great video! What a setup in that 182. Dennis is fantastic.
What a great, chilled and knowledgeable guy Dennis is. Nice video :)
Ahh, a more of a "classic" FC episode :). Flying and watching you do what you love in that typical humble FlightChops style... love it.
Had a very similar setup in a 177 that I did in my training/checkride. At first, I was overwhelmed and just wanted to fly by hand. After some time, I’m so glad my instructor made me use the systems I had available. Yes, we hand flew as well considering I don’t have these avionics in my 180. But was very eye opening and great to learn.
Great video, I noted most aircraft of that perod have ash trays fitted, amazing how attitudes and times change. I had my flight training in the early 80s in the Cessna 152 - they all had ash trays too!
I know nothing about aviation but watching FlightChops got me thinking to learn about the subject. Thanks flightChops for sharing with us !
I loved it, and I love the fact that it is long. I like the long video's better. One of my favorites so far.
love long videos!, great job as always
I like the method of overlaying the voice track from one clip onto another. The affect of the VO offers a warmth that I like.
Well done, excellent video! Greased that landing too - so kudos on that as well. It’s an impressive system. Your friend seems like he really knows his stuff and has a nice presentation manner. Also, love the Skylane, it’s a beautiful bird.
Such great video's, never thought half an hour could pass so quickly... especially knowing i will never be a pilot ! Great days to you and your family !
First class job all round by both of you guys and this beautiful old Cessna with a modern panel. I really enjoyed watching this, just great to have Denis to not only talk us through the entire flight but to give us his insights and indepth explanations about every aspect of all instruments involved. You did a great job putting this video together and I'm sure a lot of folks will benefit from it too.
The content is excellent and could easily run longer with no complaints.
What a useful video! This is fantastic! I am working on my IFR now and fly with a GTN750 and 650. Thanks for the insights!
Wow that is one nice 182. Thanks for the video. Much enjoyed.
Love the video. Great content as always. Thanks for keeping it longer and including more teachable moments!
Great episode. Love that 182, love Dennis
Great video, definitely not too long. Love Dennis. He's the personification of a great flight instructor. Down to earth, knowledgeable, speaks in terms that are easy to understand, direct and honest about the need to understand the basics before moving on to complex systems. You're lucky to have him as a resource.
I am constantly amazed at the advancements in aviation technology. If I were still flying a 182 I would want this system for sure.
Really enjoyed this one and it's always great having Dennis along for the ride. Got a good laugh from his comment on the interior "this color is not found in nature"!
Totally loved this video! Thanks for the inspiration. After 18 yrs of not flying I got my RPL back this week and studying for the PPL now. ❤️🛩
well done -- one of the best long form ones yet....
I rarely comment videos but the scene with Dennis like at 21:49 is so beautiful. Besides that Dennis seems to be a very nice person!
About one month ago I got my private pilot licence in Alberta, Canada. Right now I'm working on my IFR ground school and your videos have bits of really helpful information. Thanks
So cool to see that career CFI’s still exist. Great content!
WOW! Loved this episode so much!!! I was feeling being overloaded too!!,
I really liked seeing this panel configuration. I have a Cardinal RG With a similar panel , but no GFC500 autopilot or G5 HSI yet. Waiting for certification by Garmin. This video is spot on what I will have, and the best illustration yet on how to to use it in real time. Well done!
Loved the details! Great edit!
Glad you liked it!
How great is Dennis? I love the daycare analogy. So true! (As a GTN 650 user, I loved the holding demo/programming.) Awesome video Steve!
Fantastic video - this video gets an A plus - And this flight instructor is absolutely amazing. The guy takes complex concepts and makes them very simple. Man I now understand things about auto pilot systems that have been a mystery to me because nobody has been able to explain it to me like this CFI. I hope to be a CFI someday, and if I can be 1/4 of what this guy is, I'll be on cloud 9 !!
Dennis is such a good teacher. My double I taught me no more than 10 degrees of flaps in a C172 on an instrument approach and not even to add more flap when the runway environment is in sight (to avoid unstabilizing the approach). Probably different in the faster 182.
What an AWESOME video! Thank you for putting this together. You love of aviation shows in every video you produce. I start my path to PPL very soon and I hope to get a chance to meet you one day!
Glad you got to fly a solid, stable airplane for a change! The 182 is a wonderful airplane and very relaxing to fly. Adding the automation makes it a real sleeper!
While the driver in me says “where’s the fun in that?”, the husband/dad/friend in me realizes that “get-there-itis” seems to result from those flights where you are going “somewhere” for some particular purpose or event, adding a few stressors to that pending “helmet fire”(love his terminology, it’s memorable). That’s where the glass panel and automation shine. I like the approach of going clean-slate on the upgrade. Someone like Mike Patey is the person you want sorting out your wiring. OCD on correct and pretty is always good in machines you depend on. Another great video, Steve.👍👍
I've started flying again after walking away from aviation almost 100% for ...22 years... I find your videos to be really interesting because they are all like me -- learning as you go. And especially this one: I've described it to my friends like going into a comma, then waking up 22 years later. The 'bike riding' is the same, but I've woken up in the future with flat panels and GPS. I'm trying to film as much as I can as I go so that I can learn and relearn as I go. Good stuff.
Some great looking planes in that hanger... I'd sure take that 182 , I think I'd change the seat color for a nice saddle tan,.. thats all. I'm an old 1978 trained pilot and the new avionics
are so cool... flew a Garmin 430 and was blown away by what it would do,... the newer bigger stuff is AWESOME. Nice Video. Thank You.
Excellent instructor !!! Totally calm and collected.
Yeah, Dennis is a good one for sure!
I did my Commercial Single in a 182RG and loved it! Such a great airplane!
Such a cool video. I am doing that almost exact same upgrade on my VFR only 182 E that I found last summer 2020. I have picked Dual G5’s and a gps175 and a gnc 255 Nav/com. along with my installed Insight G4. I aim to start my IFR training behind this new setup. And hope to install a gfc500 autopilot later . So cool to see it all in action. I am going to shop the autopilot install around. I will check out the shop that was mentioned. Safe and happy flying.
I have a 79Q 182 with nearly identical avionics and I can testify that between the radios and autopilot, it is a beast of an IFR cross country machine!! Love this episode!
Great CFI very educational for my IFR training, you did a great job!
Wow, Learned so much from this video. Just outstanding!!
This is a great video! Good job man. 🤙
Dennis and Osama are the best. I wish I had them here in Napa Steve. Great video!
An excellent video. You’re extremely fortunate to have developed a relationship with this great CFI. Also, don’t worry about video length when you’ve got great instructional dialog such as this. It kept me interested throughout. Lobed the automation as well.
Thanks for that!
Excellent video, Steve! Love that 182. You really should think about finishing your IFR rating in that aircraft. Beautiful plane.
I have a 182Q with the same setup (GTN650 - G5 - JPI 830) except my autopilot is a Stec 55X. I've been searching for the ideal power/flap settings during my approaches. You're flying the approach at 21" of MP then once the autopilot intercepts the G/S you immediately reduce RPM to 1800 and add 10 degrees of flaps, speed drops into the white arc and you add 20 degrees of flaps until the runway is made. I have done about 60 approaches with this setup but I am looking forward to giving your settings a try. BTW - there is so much you can do with the Garmin panel especially when using Connext and an iPad - One of my favorites is how the iPad and GTN650 transfer flight plans and changes back and forth to each other. It really compliments the C182, I just can't stop flying the darn thing. Thanks for the great video!
Good video! Don’t hesitate to let it run long if there is usable information that needs to be included.
Great video Steve!
I've been flying IFR since 1972 and in 2005 I bought a Grumman Tiger and completely upgraded the automation to the same level as this 182. Anyone wondering if it is worth the money to upgrade, the increase in safety and my comfort level was well worth the $30K it cost for the 3 axis autopilot, WAAS GPS capability, etc. Approaches to minimums changed from high anxiety to feeling like I was the second pilot ensuring the pilot flying (the autopilot) was on track. It truly changed my flying life. Go for it! And Steve, the length of the video is perfect and, as usual, you have an amazing knack for producing useful content that is an absolute joy to watch!
Great video steve!