Being terrible (yet successful) at Gen 1
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In case you are wondering why I didn't catch better Pokémon and used the plethora of TMs easily available to me, the answer is simple: I was bad. Like... REALLY bad. Hopefully I got better since then :')
Was just about to ask why you didn't team Dratini bubblebeam and then I see this lol
Same - water gun in mt moon, bubble beam after misty - i was asking myself if there was a challenge you did not tell us about 😁.
also body slam on the ms anne
You're doing gods will, bless you!
Still, watching you struggle seemed like good content, i dunno
It's funny how no one has mentioned this... But since you allow yourself to trade, you can skip the Nugget bridge, Bill's transformation, SS Anne and Lt. Surge by just trading yourself a pokemon that knows cut, and heading directly to Rock Tunnel after beating Misty. You could do the same for surf and strength and skip the safari zone as well. That just saves you at least two hours of gameplay.
also if he used a nidoking...
wasn't it locked to not transfer mons with hms?
@@Vova-xv3zn I am 99.9% sure it wasn't. But thanks to your comment now I need to try😅
@@andrescaballero7137 it's definitely not allowed gen 2 and up, but don't remember gen 1
@@Vova-xv3zn It is actually allowed. I just did it on Gen 1 & 2 through an emulator and it worked perfectly. And just tried gen 3 & 4 on real consoles and it worked. I will try with gens 5 & 7 as well and let you know.
UPDATE: Just did it in gen 5 and also worked. I won't try in gen 7 since I realized there are no HMs
I just find it hilarious that you had a bunch of options to make this playthrough easy for yourself, but you ignore it all and tunnel vision on the Dratini and Beedrill without using any of the TMs on the Dratini. XD
Silph Scope is, funny enough, optional. The only place you use it, you can use a pokedoll to escape against marowak, which causes it to just fucking leave XD
You could have tought dratini surf in blue, also thunderbolt, ice beam, blizzard, dratini can learn amazing special moves with tms in gen 1
Or he could just trade his blastoise and destroyed the early game gyms then switch to dratini after misty with blastoise in the team as a fail-safe.
@@davifelizardo4187 If the level 15 Dratini won't listen, the level 70+ Blastoise won't either...
@@jnklee Yeah it is true but a level 70 Blastoise would take basically no damage while fighting the trainers from the early game and one surf or blizzard would imediatilly ohk the adversary so you just spend the first 2 gyms spaming the a button until you will and when you arrive in Vermillion the guy would have access to a Dugtrio to deal with Surge and now you just have to defeat Erika and you are free to use Dratini for the rest of the game. Plus it was a stupid ideia to use the level up move set from Dratini durant the early and mid game what he should have done is to buy a bunch of good tms from Celadon and Cassino and stuff his Dratini with surf blizzard thunderbolt and fire blast and just destroyed everything in his path.
You probably should have focused on leveling up that Nidoran. It's a super strong Pokemon that you can have fully evolved before your starter and it has a great TM move pool.
That's the thing about Flareon. Even though it takes forever to get him decent fire moves in this generation, he's a beast with physical attack power. Give him body slam and he's a wrecking machine.
Oh no in gen 1 it learns no fire moves by level up and all fire type moves are special.. lol
Given the opening part of your story, you obviously never saw JRose11's run of _Red_ with only a Dratini. _It was a nightmare._ (,:
Dratini is a bad luck charm
I have never heard "Slam is a good move" what a bizarre playthrough. But great job man, loving the series.
how about “flareon isn’t so bad” lmfao
@@kingkohwul *just* before it lost to an Ivysaur
8:00
Lyra: *talks about Dratini's Wrap method, after paralyzing the target*
Also Lyra: *Doesn't use agility when opponent's speed increases*
Fun Fact: for your side games you dont needed to do all the rocket casino thing, just to get the scope-silph, you only need a pokedoll, throw it at the ghost marowak, and you're free to go, hope that will help you if you want to play any RBY again
(it only works in RBY not in FRLF)
The reason Flareon is so good with tackle against the Growlithe is it has a base 130 attack stat. According to the Pokémon Showdown calculator, at level 25 it does more damage to a level 22 Growlithe with Tackle than it does with Ember.
That was the moment that I knew this guy wasn't exaggerating when he said he was bad at Pokemon lol, whether it's because of the Twitch Plays Pokemon or the competitive scene, pretty much everybody thinks Flareon is garbage :(
It's kinda weirdly refreshing to see somebody making mistakes
@@loulou3676 flareon is pretty garbage compared to vaporeon and jolteon but that's mostly because thunderbolt, icebeam, and later surf are easily accessible tm's and because special is a lot more powerful than physical in gen 1 (because it's both offensive and defensiive).
Flareon is all things considered a solid pokemon compared to the rest of gen 1 pokemons but picking vaporeon or jolteon really makes the game a lot easier.
Thank god for the gen 4 attack category split. Now you can actually use flareons great physical attack for some fire attacks instead of its poultry special attack stat
@@flameconvoy7424 Unfortunately Flareon was fucked for several generations even added the physical/special split, because Flareon didn't really get any good physical Fire moves and he's monotype Fire, which is kinda lacking. He was always the worst Eeveelution, arguably tied with Leafeon. Both basically saw 0 competitive play and were just worse versions of other Pokemon you could get of the same type.
@@ShadowTasos true, I forgot it was stuck with fire fang until gen 6
You made me laugh my guts out for several minutes in a row, starting with "I didn't know dratini was this bad"--then the grinding of the kakuna with no attacking moves... holy crap, I'm still gasping for air.
edit: I also didn't know that any traded poke wouldn't obey until 2 badges, lololollooooollll
edit 2: you could have had water gun as early as the entrance of mt. moon, and bubblebeam is a decently strong move for mashing through rock tunnel, no?
just for the future.
right at the entrance of mount moon, you will find watergun, which dratini could have learned.
combine that with the bodyslam you get on the ms anne, it would have been MUCH easier.
also it would have been smarter to catch a a weedle instead of a kakuna.
they are 1 lvl lower, but they have poison sting, which means you would have had a kakuna with poison sting as well.
good video, i was entertained the whole time. good job
Would have been better to use butterfree, it gets confusion super early, most people who pick charmander use it to destroy brock
People say Pokemon is easy, and for the most part, it probably is, but I think what many people forget, is that mismanagement due to bad planning or just not knowing certain things (heck, even I didn't know Brovk's badge doesn't help with traded mons, and I beat this game dozens of times over the years) can really drag out any run. I think it's great you're showing this in this series, because it's something often forgotten.
After all, there's a reason why so many people associate Pokemon with heavy grinding from back in the day.
He was rocking a Beedrill 😂😂
Moderately in awe of the dedication to make the Dratini starter work rather than just trading the starter back. Could have boosted its level as well on the main game with a run through the League before sending it back to the side game.
To die to self destruct did you have to take things OUT of your party? Even dragionair wouldn’t have been completely useless as a last resort regardless of self destruct. I just can’t feel bad about that because it feels like you were just asking for it.
This series is great by the way, you clearly put a ton of work into it.
Thank you! And yeah, I played terribly. Looking back, I think the Blastoise run went smoothly enough that I got cocky and focused on going fast. The fact that I purposefully avoided getting Body Slam is just... baffling.
@@Lyra i would like to add that dratini/dragonair can both learn bubblebeam and thunderbolt which would've made a lot of the early game significantly easier for you😅
Damn, you really sunk into despair and mandness in this one lol gj!
It would be very interesting to watch you do a nuzlocke.
You mean "frustrating"
Damn you weren't lying about being bad it's painful x)
gen 1 is very punishing when you don't know what tm to get and where cause level movepool of most pokemon are absolute garbage, but that also means opponent have garbage moves more often than not and just a few TM like body slam, thunderbolt and ice beam are enough to roll over the entire game.
The moment you said you'll try your luck relying on beedril I knew you'd have a rough time lmao
Tha's so funny seing you plan this Living Dex with great precision and dedication (even writing a website for the occasion!) and then watching you do the first side walkthrough with a powerless Beedrill and a disobeying Dratini!!
But don't get me wrong, that's not a bad thing! It's actually pretty refreshing seeing a casual player (I mean, like most of us) doing a difficult challenge like this one, it's another experience for the viewers than watching another pro/hardcore gamer that already knows everythings and rolls over the game for the hundredth time :)
As some people mentioned, there is some rework to do with the narration, especially the occasional long blank pauses, but overall you are doing great work with your videos! I enjoy them and hope you are doing more in the future!
Keep up the good work :)
In the surge fight if you'd used agility you would've been able to not only outspeed the raichu but it would've badge boost glitched your atk since brock's badge increases atk by 12%
I think its brock's anyway, might be blaine's
Blaine's badge boosts Special, so Brock's is the attack one.
if you cancel the evolution the first time you can keep tackle on kakuna/metapod
Actually traded Pokemon obey you up to Level 10 without a badge
Alternatw title: Man slowly loses sanity while using Beedrill and a traded Dratini in Gen 1.
You could've catch a clefairy to evolve it into clefable to help 1you with misty, or simply use bulbasaur to play through the game until misty and crush surge with bulba or dugtrio, then start to use dratini, it would be so much easier.
Loving checking back every day or so to see just how much your sub count has grown in that time. Love that the algorithm is picking you up.
Not using TMs is bad, but understandable mistake, but picking Beedrill over Butterfree tilts me to oblivion :D. Butterfree learns confusion at level 12 which, in combination with it's decent speed and special, makes everything in early game a one shot(apart from Misty). Anyway, loving all your videos. Keep it up.
Butterfree is Blue exclusive, and the game is Red.
No, it's not. You're on the internet, just check it if you doubt it.
@@Voliharmin Huh, you're right... Weird, I would've sworn it was.
@@saxor96 Well, I was 100% sure Mankey is available in blue and I play gen 1 regulary for over 20 years now. Memory is a weird thing...
Just so you know, if you didn’t want to do the silph co and get silph scope.. you can give the ghost blocking the stairs a poke doll from celedon mart and skip all that silph co
I thought watching and doing Nuzlockes was rough.. Watching someone grind to get a complete Living Dex is really harsh 😂😂😂 Really entertaining 😂
Dratini is TRYING HER BEST, OK?!
Like because of the suffering you had to undergo on this run
there would have been so many options with dratini... water gun, bubblebeam, thunderbolt, ice beam are all attacks that you could have learned before the 4th gym, it could have helped a lot. then there is wrap, with thunderwave and/or agilty it's a busted move, you could defeat any pokemon you wanted!
I was expecting you to use the poke doll to skip the Silph scope. You could also trade a pokemon with cut to skip the SS Anne and just get the cascade badge.
Right at the start of mount moon you can find TM 12 Water Gun... that could have been useful for Dratini
on the koga fight, always bring a spare level i don't care in case weezing blows itself up so you have something to switch to.
i loved the editing for the lost footage. very entertaining and easy to follow. Poor Dratini! xD
Cant believe you didnt start with the OP butterfree with confusion and sleep powder
You could have gotten water gun in Mt moon, and rock types wouldn't have been an issue (when Dratini listened to you)
You could have:
Traded Squirtle for Dratini.
Used the Exp share in the main game against the E4 for Squirtle.
Traded Squirtle back to speed through the side game.
Speed Level Dratini with the exp boost after getting some badges. Maybe even in the E4 by switch training.
Also:
15:04 called it when you started using Dratini against Surge.
22:51 called it because of the run title and you emphasis on going into the battle using only one mon.
25:35 You sure? There actually are more trainers like in the route west of Lavender Town. The guys just below the building. Just FYI.
Watching your videos, you could really improve the script by discarding all those long pauses where you don't say anything or repeat yourself to re-inforce something. Keep talking in a way that always keeps it interesting with not too much repetition. Try always saying something different. When you record yourself doing your commentary remember you don't have to necessarily do it in one go. Take your time and word it in a way that keeps the viewer hooked to what you're saying keeping the casual style of talking. I think it could really improve the overall quality. And also when you need to describe something that happened off screen, try shortening it as much as possible to not get boring. Like I said in a previous video I really see a lot of potential in you so that's why I'm giving you all this advice. Keep it up!
watching in 1.5x speed helps. loool
@@xenalotadicks i actually watch at 1. 25 and it doesn't even sound sped up! the pauses are long even then tho
A good way to do so is to just pick a topic, talk as normal etc. But don't feel like you have to find something to talk about. You are totally fine not saying anything at all until you want to add something.
When you pause the convo just do a jump cut or speed up the gameplay while adding a bit of music.
@@xenalotadicks I watch at 1.5x too
that's quite interesting. play the whole game without any starter Pokemon because you trade them to your other game.
Commentary written as I watch.
Well before Brock and having "no starter", you have the choice of getting either Nidoran (M/F), which learn a fighting move, as well as a Caterpie that get confusion and poison powder when it become Butterfree, either of them can solve the Brock Block. It's actually the intended way for people who pick Charmander as starter. Otherwise, all normal type pokemon can usually clear him when they are high enough level if you want an excuse to grind.
A bit weird hearing complaint about bad moves, you should have used your TMs, especially if this is meant to be a throw away save file. SS Anne have body slam move, which is the best generic physical move, plus Flareon have great attack stats, making him a powerhouse here with just that.
I feel you with Dratini. I tried to do a Gym Leader challenge where I would only play with a specific type. The first one I did was Dragon, so I was like, "Oh, Dratini will be fun. Never really used Dragonite in my normal runs, so let's give it a shot."
What's worse? I was using Gen 2, so I had the nerfed wrap. I think I just reset at that point and went for poison instead deciding that a dragon run would be better in a different generation.
Amazing. I loved it.
Quite a few blunders in decision making XD, probably would have been more useful to play Bulbasaur and use it all the way to Venusaur, and feed the dratini every rare candy from the run, then pass dratini/dragonair to the next run and feed it all the rare candies from there until you can power level at Cerulean Cave to get Dragonite.
Since you need to run 3 times to Cinnabar for the fossils, probably would be smart to use the Masterballs from each run on the Legendary birds to save time as well. The 3rd and 4th runs you could run to Ivysaur and Wartortle and just B cancel their evolutions
Can't wait to see gen 4
Dratini is absolutely horrifying in later gens (as is any Pokemon you can breed with the following move on the egg) for one reason:
Dragon Rage.
Most gens have no immunity and 40 damage is a OHKO for most 'mon early in :P
Now that I think about it: the way the system of traded pokemon obeying you works is dumb as hell. I get it that it was put in place to prevent people just trading themselves level 100 pokemon to steamroll the game, but there was such an easier way to prevent this: just make it so the level cap badges impose are a limit on a level of pokemon you can receive from trade. There, it's done, you don't have to worry that the pokemon you obtained from your friend stops listening to you, and you cannot receive an overleveled pokemon.
Instead of beedrill, you should have use nidoran as your main. By mt moon it will be nidoqueen and it will just destroy everything in front of it. But well, I guess now you know
“Pokémon is too easy!”
Not sure why you wouldn't want to go back to heal. I always go back to heal after every trainer battle since I want my Pokemon to be at their best for the next battle.
Pretty sure I'd personally prefer to just play casually instead of trying to plan and lose hours to screwing it up. xD
Nah planning is good but this guy just does random stuff
You should of given Dratini ice beam before trading him. Even with him not obeying, he would of dominated most trainers
i feel like you couldve saved yourself a lot of hassle if you allowed use of either a gen 2 game to cut down on repeat playthoughts, or if you're staying Gen1 only then Stadium to move pokemon around more easily
either way, hilarious run. im pretty sure i had a similar thing happen to me when i tried to make a Gen 3 living dex :P
Dunno why you didn't teach Dratini moves before trading. Can literally learn Surf and Thunderbolt. That's two badges essentially.
also, dratini has pretty bad moves at the start until evolving to dragonite at least in gen 1
For rock tunnel (and beyond) dratini learns both tm12 water gun (in Mt moon) AND tm11 bubblebeam (from misty) idk why you wouldn't use one or both? You also could have gotten body slam from S. S. Anne... is there a condition where you can't use tm s that I missed?
Nope, I was just garbage at the game.
For being very fond of planning your REALLY commited to a terrible plan instead of just trading the actual starter back in xD
Why didn't he teach Dratini Water Gun or Bubble beam?
I know this is late af but for efficiency technically you should buy the Clefs at the end of your run in case you bump into one. Though I guess there's probably a specific correct buy order depending on how deep you need to go into each game.
I'm pretty sure dragonair could've learned some useful TMs at celadon... you should look for some guides...
I can help you in playing part you're in trouble with
You could've done about 600 things other than the things you did and all 600 of them would've saved you time and stress and would've just made 10x more sense.
I really love your videos! JRose11 is basically my go to for calming videos, but how he plays Pokemon kind of sucks the fun out of it because it's so analytical. I definitely have no interest in copying what he does... But how you went through this is so accessible (despite the overwhelming nature of the task!) I'm actually tempted to get a Gameboy emulator and try this myself! Though... I'm not sure if you how you'd trade between the save files! Especially on mobile 🤣
Oh no, you finally get a move you can use, slam, and you overwrite one that can make any gen 1 pokemon overpowered. Badge boosts, never heard of em. What a disaster run. Funny to watch tho.
My man aged 20 years playing Pokemon Red
Could've been easier to evolve the Dratinis in the first playthrough! Even if you traded your starter in the second version, you could just trade it back XD
How can you catch all Pokemon without trading? How can you get Bulbasaur, Squirtle and Charmander without get them traded?
btw its called rocket hideout it isn't a lab XD
Omg for having done a living dex on the same games, no wonder this run is cursed when i watch the video
After watching over 30 Jrose solo runs, I'm intimately familiar with all the different bastards that can self-destruct XD
Dratini could not learn water gun??? Its a tm you can get at mt moon
Hey just as a Tip the title should at least mention that its part of the living dex series as I first didnt watch it when I was looking for your living dex series
Bro… you could have just caught a Ratatta and traded it for Dratini and had a starter and Dragonite checked off…
Wait... thunder wave worked on raichu?! Shouldnt electric pokemon be immune?
That said, I appreciate the fact you got better and now know you can use TMs and stuff, but at the same time, early game butterfree is MUCH MUCH MUCH better than beedrill. Sleep, poison, paralsis, confusion, psychic attacks...
I know, this was over 2 years ago so im late lol. Still. Cant hurt to have the info, i guess. Pretty sure caterpie can be obtained in red even if the encounter is more rare, like weedle is in blue.
I can physically feel your pain through your voice though. Poor bloke :(
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you should have picked squirtle, evolved it to warturtle BUT used Nidoran female as the main pokemon. It kicks ass.
You could get a legendary as main too when level reached, a lot of different strategies across all the different games.
nidoran and nidoking line are trully beast
Ironically movepool should something to be absolutely planned.
This was so hard to watch holy crap
I'm living proof.... you can!
What’s hilarious about the start of this video is how he spends like 5 minutes saying how he didn’t know what each badge does when that’s like the 2nd thing you learn in the game after status ailments.
Are you aware that speedrunners in pokemon Gen 1 use a solo pokemon, either Blastoise or Nidoking?
Why did you trade away your starter? You could have used them and saved so much hassle lol
You could have used the nidoran to beat Brock on its own. At level 12 it learns double kick. A fighting tyoe move. This one completely destroys Brocks team :D
The nidos actually learn double kick super late in Red/Blue :( In Yellow they changed it to level 12
@@Bored-Kim ah okay thanks. :D Thought it was the same in red/blue. In yellow it is almost the only way to beat Brock. Pikachu is just super bad in this game in general... -.-
But, will it be better to use N64 and just move pokemons and items between games?
There's nothing more entertaining than watching someone suffer while gaming and hear the salt in their voice and still trug along knowing full well they have no one to blame but themselves 🤣
You should have named this video 'Skill Issue'.
why the heck didn't you just trade the pokemon back?!
I thought you knew the channel Scott Thoughts and ManDryBread. They know your suffering a lot more than you think
Why didn’t you pick up another Pokémon to make your play through better
Lol for real, also why a beedrill, even a raticate would be so much better
Nice Channel!!! A Little curiosity, are you allowed to use glitches like walk through Wall for this challenge? Because, if i am not wrong, It Is possible to pick both fossils in Mt. Moon with this glitch
You are very bad at pokemon sir
"Hey I need to level up a ton of dumb pokemon to evolve them"
*beats most of the trainers with a beedrill, a pokemon that is fully evolved and catchable on both versions"
I like the idea of your videos and your journey but dude... I'm glad you say it yourself, you are terrible at pokemon lol you'd saved so much time if you just played with the starter instead ofntrying to use Dratini...
15:07 actually made me laugh , like allot. 🤣
You realy hate fire type pokemon!?
On the bright side I think you learned a lot about this game through your poor decisions.
It's the only way: once you understand Red and Blue it stops punishing and you start to feel rewarded.
It's when the game most felt like a JRPG which I love as it was my gateway into the genre way back when.
That being said, this is definitely unique and organic content, which I appreciate as a lot of Red/Blue content is generally speaking completely min-maxed.
Genuinely interesting idea but you need to work on your titles.
Also don't be scared of retakes
Funny, i had a similar experience. I actually started with Yellow Version, despitee watching your video on it, i just really love yellows sprites, and since you need to do 3 runs to Cinnabar anyways, i can just make 1 run on Red, and the other 2 on Blue. Since Pikachu cant do anything to Brock i went and grinded a Caterpie which can easily beat Brock, on my way to mount moon i fucked up again, and deleted Pikachus Thunder Shock, and since i'm really dumb i didn't actually save yet, so resetting was no option either, so Butterfree stayed til Cerulean. I taught Mega Punch Pikachu, which really paid off, i also decided to level up Bulbasaur, Squirtle and Charmander to 36 so i get all the 3rd evolutions and save me 3 runs later. I actually didn't avoid all encounters and just leveled the starters via swapping.
Also Blastoise and Venusaur were helpful for the few Rock Types. Its pretty funny that a 36 Venusaur can just oneshot Blues Rhydon in the final Battle with Razor Leaf.
Just for fun i had Lapras and Snorlax on me so now i beat the League with Reds canon team.
Which is pretty funny.
I plan on doing the same Dratini thing for my Red run as well, however i will use some TMs and HMs to teach it some useful moves before trading it away.