Responding To The Elphaba Situation.
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I dislike her behaviour and the damage she's doing to an already marginalized community, she's not the type of person we should be platforming, not here, not on TikTok, not anywhere.
That being said, the behaviour in her comments section the night she had her episode was revolting, baiting someone when they're appearing suicidal is as bad as it gets.
She needs to leave TikTok, we need to stop talking about her and those that baited her for fun need to evaluate their own mental state.
The thing is, while yes, people online can be horrid, you are only accountable for your own actions. While i dont condone being horrid to anyone or egging someone on to hurt themselves, Elphaba has a duty of care to her self to NOT put herself in harms way.
Problem is, even when tiktok bans her she just makes another account. Shes almost addicted to the attention. She has put herself in a position now where i doubt she could even get a regular job even if she wanted to because of the reputation that shes cultivated and continues to choose to engage with.
*WOW!* That was incredibly well said! ❤ I couldn't agree with you more. I only watched this vid because I was curious about if E had been banned or had any repercussions, OR for that other person who was equally as gross, embarrassing AND compliant. It was her who made me angry and ill with what all she was doing and saying; Not E. I've been pushed exactly like that by an ex and that was very hard to watch for me. She was absolutely disgusting and even more disturbing than E, (IMO), and I'm not surprised at all that E's brain's automitic reaction to it all was that. It's simply how some people's brains automatically react to that situation and you never know who's brain is like that.
I won't be watching anything more about E from now on and I hope the conversations turn to her equally as much. They *both* need this to be a hard lesson to be learned and I wish they both had repercussions over it. Even if it was mandated therapy, (from TikTok), that E couldn't get in the E.R. since it's an E.R. and not a Psych ward. I'm still surprised that E wasn't put in an Inpatient Behavioral Health Hospital though. ...Unless she refused it. 🤷♀️
She needs to leave tiktok, but she won't because it's like trying to explain to a gambling addict that they need to stop playing because it's hurting them, or to an alcoholic that they need to stop drinking because it's damaging them. It's logically true but it won't make them stop. She needs to either admit to herself she has a problem and drastically change her lifestyle, or she needs external intervention , or both.
Can't agree more. She and everyone who pushed her to do it should get IP banned for good.
@@jaclynjax8308
Well said.
I got banned for a week from livestreaming once because I played resident evil, and once got restrictions for vaping... WTF are TT doing defending her...?
I got a video taken down for someone smoking IN THE BACKGROUND like they were bearly visible and she can do shit like this
i got banned for life cus i said i was on my period. and my lives had hundreds of ppl 💔💔
@@bestieasf427thats crazy
I mean you have to be aware those are both crimes of the highest degree? 😂
It’s a crazy platform. I got banned for good… and never did know why. The last thing I uploaded was about some dry ice I got with some food I ordered by post. The only thing I can think of it was regarded as dangerous. But my post was about that… if you get it in the post don’t open it and handle it etc.
The problem is shes faked so much crap for views that even if this was genuine that no one will take her seriously
she has an attention addiction that’s all it is.
He
“the boy who cried the wolf”
People like elphaba make the whole world of mental health "seedy"for want of a better word..they should really think about things before embarrassing themselves and stating that our NHS is bad... my son had a breakdown and he didn't have rime to start off the li e strea. And think in advance what to say ..ridonculous elphaba.
my friend got banned from tiktok for speaking about a fundraiser for palestine and i got restricted for posting videos of me smoking but Elphaba is allowed to continuously be a danger to herself in extreme ways and it's allowed?!
I genuinely don’t understand how tiktok removes videos that are perfectly okay and then this is okay?!?!
Seriously! They're suppressing the digitine by taking the girls videos off the for you page, saying they weren't fit for fyp. But Elphaba making threats about her life apparently is just another day for tiktok.
Yeh fr!! I posted a normal video of me in a bikini as was on holiday… that got removed…
I’m truly disgusted with TikTok. The fact they’ve allowed them to continue going live, when she doesn’t have an 18+ audience, clearly the people who watch her aren’t exactly 100% okay mentally if they spend 1000’s of £’s on her and stuff. The people watching it may have gone through SH and su!c!dal tendencies before, saw her do that and then did it themselves. Kids? Damn I dread to think how many kids have seen that. Saw no repercussions and thought ‘oh I wonder if I do this what’ll happen’
Elphaba clearly, and I mean VERY CLEARLY, is not OKAY. Not at all. I’m sure coming out and transitioning in private isn’t easy, let alone with thousands of people watching. Then thousands of people bullying, and such, yes she’s encouraged it and stuff by continuing to go live and have breakdowns like she does.
She really needs to be 5150’ed. She needs professional inpatient help. Whether it’s for actual mental health issues, or if it’s to detox her from the internet. She needs to be gone from internet. COMPLETELY.
Her management not calling an ambulance, or the police to get her help after that is WILD.
I thought you said diagnosed with TikTok 😭 But yeah I like what you said, very well put
I love wanting to go to sleep, and then I tell myself a 10 minute Alex video won’t hurt…
Made the same decision 😴
Me rn
i want to revise for my computing gcse tommorow but I tell myself a 10 min alex video wont hurt
@@alicia_27- both it!
Me right now 😂
Genuinely sick, this is horrid. How can tiktok allow this. As a former suicidal person and mentally ill person it makes me ill
Me too especially because it is a plastic toy dagger. I don’t know why that detail upsets me so much maybe it’s because people are treating her like she isn’t attention seeking right now when she is and while I do agree she has a lot of mental health problems going on making a mockery of people who suffer with these tendencies or have Died in the past due to these thingsis sickening
I hate how she contuines to get away with this shit, yet if i swear on Tiktok it's suddenly a problem.
Ugh so real I’m always in trouble for nothing . Said I was a litttle kid 😂
Fr we have to censor our comments like saying unalive or sewerslide to avoid a ban yet she can go on live and act it out and then be live again the following day?
Im glad that you’re now trying to set boundaries for your future content. As we can see with elfaba, you need to prioritise up your mental health
You are a smart man. The weird part to ideation is even the attempts where you are seeking attention can put the thought into your head, especially if you are already mentally unwell.
I'm a disabled Army combat veteran from and I don't have any firearms at home because there have been moments where it would've been as easy as turning off a light switch, and that's what it becomes.
I don't want to die personally, most people don't, but when you say the words enough, and do the motions enough. There will be a moment where it all becomes real. It's just not something to joke about, to use as manipulation, or at all.
I hear you. It gets so hard sometimes to ignore the voices in your head telling you that not only would you be better off, but so would your loved ones, if you were to just wink out of existence. Those voices can be very loud.
I’m glad you are still here, but I’m sorry that after serving your country you’re now faced with having poor mental health. I hope that in your area there are support systems in place for soldiers who have returned from war, and that you do have family and friends to hold you up on those days when it’s hard to do it on your own. ❤
@alderoth01 - Thank you for your service. I hope you’re getting the medical and psychological assistance you need, as I know from my late husband’s experiences with the VA that isn’t always the case. Wishing you well.
At one point on TikTok, someone did livestream their unaliving and TikTok keeps the live up even while being aware of it.
I think it’s time to stop giving her attention maybe? 😅
It's unfortunate that this comment is so deeply buried. But you're so right! If we stopped giving her attention she'd fade out.
I know Elphaba is being Elphaba but other than that I know no context. Thank goodness for Alex 😭 can always count on him for an Elphaba update 😭🙏🏽
0:47 wait oh my goodness this is terrible!!
I feel like im psychic 😂 randomly checked like an hour ish ago for an alex elphaba video, found it strange that he hadnt uploaded in a while but just put on his last video while i made food. When i unlocked my phone after food it was still open on Alex channel, then there was a new elphaba video 20 minutes ago 😂
ALEX UPLOADED YAY
Thank you Alex for this!! As much as I enjoy the content relating to tiktokers and such it would be so so lovely to see more of the light hearted content again especially when this stuff is getting so heavy, sending you all the love
Been waiting on your response, love your vids Alex 💜
Its been a couple years since I've properly follwed your uploads, but recently I've been sucked right back in; this series has reminded me why I followed you all the way back in 2019. Your commentry is genuinely so insightfil and intelligent (while also being entertaining), and it's so refreshing to see somebody being honest on the platform, especially regarding such senstive topics such as this. You've grown a lot over the years, and I'm so glad I've come back to your content!
Take whatever time you need for yourself man genuinely
Hope you had a good break, glad to see you back. I'd love to see more funny videos and reactions, I'm kinda over elphaba and heavy drama rn. It's annoying and depressing
can tell this has triggered you.. i hope you’re okay, we all love you and support you, and personally reaction vids etc. are my fave so id love more of them!!
the elphaba who cried wolf
Fr
Love the vid Alex! New scraps episode soon??
New Alex Elphaba video. What a day.
I appreciate your approach. Think you did well on this one!
Alex I just started following as a follower, have been watching your content especially with Elphaba, as I have been fascinated by Brit Tiktok, as an lover of all things Brittain. But I have to say Alex, I was waiting for your take as its always thoughtful and on target. I can see the pain and vulnerability you shared here means you got a lot of sincerity shining through, as someone with depression, anxiety, and LGBT, it hurts to see Elphaba unraveling and honestly "defying accountability. Keep bring it funny or serious takes are needed, your voice is needed on the platform!
It’s always a good day when Alex posts
Can’t we start a petition to get Elf bar removed from tik tok plzzz
Alex you’re my fave when it comes to these topics. You’re not mean just for the sake of being mean but you’re truthful :)
I like the lighthearted content, I'm glad you're going to focus on the things you enjoy best
ive been waiting for this video
i love your videos!
It gets proven more and more that she needs serious help and either isn't getting it or refusing to get it. Either way, I hope she can find the help she needs
Great to have you back, Alex! :)
I’ll watch anything you post so just post what makes you happy ❤
Your back!
It's sadly true that going to an emergency room for something like ending-it feelings will result in very little to no care. When I went, I waited 6-8 hours, all day, to be seen. By the time they got to me, the counselors they would've wanted me to talk to were off shift and there only was a doctor to talk to. They ended up forcing me to sign "will not do it" paperwork, that inferred I would be arrested if I did try to do it or something. The process was frustrating, overwhelming, underwhelming, and frightening. I felt like I did something criminal by seeking help, and absolutely nothing was resolved for me. I just walked away far more scared than before.
u should do more sims videos light hearted and always so funny
It makes me sad for her. I see someone who struggles with depression and anxiety, who is maybe bipolar, and isn’t getting treatment for it. Instead, she puts herself on TikTok for whatever attention she can get, even if it’s negative. The negative attention of course just feeds back into her depression and anxiety and it’s a pretty sick cycle.
Good for you, Alex, for not piling on when she’s hitting such a low point. You’ve always made it clear you don’t like her, but also wish she’d take care of her mental health. Too bad more people, and TikTok, aren’t as concerned.
The whole thing is just so dystopian. I think it has to be said though that if you genuinely want to your content to be detached from the more serious topics like this, just don’t make the videos. Completely understand if people are asking for it, but it is your content and if you want to be more lighthearted etc then that is in your control. If people wanted to stay updated on this kind of drama they would just watch the tiktok clips, but people are genuinely watching for you and your insight/humour/character. So when you’re clearly not interested in the topics discussed we just completely lose the entertainment factor. Stick to whatever you feel is topical and laughable and worthy of making content about and we’ll still be here. Always love the lighthearted tones of the videos. Hope ur well!!
Elphaba singing wasnt after, it was before
That doesn't make it any better she was threatening to kill herself wtf bro
Okay doesn't make it better
My account literally gets suspended for no reason all the time on TikTok but elphaba can threaten her life and TikTok have no issue with it 🙃
people complained about that live and it kept coming back with no violations, tiktok doesnt care at all as its gets views.
i have a list of why “tiktok fucking sucks” and one of them is just Elphaba💀 she’s a giant problem
The fact that Elphaba is back going out every single night and has been live and trying to shift blame only a week after what she did is making me so mad not gunna lie
Obviously she’s not in a good place I’m not denying that but she needs to take some accountability and just fucking stop rather than complain in A&E how shit the help is etc
TW suicide attempt
The night she was doing what she did on live I attempted. An attempt that almost killed me. I’m so grateful to the RNLI volunteers who attended the scene and the paramedics etc and the Drs in hospital. I’m now detained on a section 2.
I couldn’t even dream of resuming service as normal after what happened.
Yet she’s on live less than a week later saying how she’s having therapy then saying it’s in the works
I’m so sick of her lies at this point
Like she needs fucking help and she needs it completely offline
Whilst I 100% agree with what you’re saying in regards to taking accountability, I don’t think it’s entirely fair to comment on her ability to ‘bounce back’ into normality and discredit her entire experience as a result of that. That isn’t always indicative of someone’s mental state, because it can be so easy to put on a façade. I too have had times in my life where I’ve attempted, and I personally was able to ‘go back to normal’ pretty soon after. It didn’t mean my attempts didn’t have an impact or that I was ‘lying’, it just meant that is personally how I coped. Elphaba 100% needs to be de-platformed for her own well-being though, because it isn’t fair for her nor those who she exposed that behaviour to.
@@katieeannee I’m not discrediting her experience by her ability to ‘bounce back’ I’m saying she needs to take time
I’ve been a day out of an attempt and still gone to college and sat exams like nothing happened. I shouldn’t have done that
She needs deplatforming bc she clearly cannot help herself and it’s just dangerous
stay safe Alex, stay safe chat 🖤💜
Love ya buddy!
Thank you for the update. She needs help.
With tik tok possibly getting banned in America how long do people think until they want to ban it in the uk, with creators like elphaba, cla and Paul breach as the ones that come to mind. The world needs to stop giving people like elphaba a platform
I always thought her name was elephant not elphaba tbh
Cheers to the outdoors 🥂
TikTok is now just black mirror irl.
ImHaircut is back
"I'm sure this'll be a nice video to eat my tea too. ahh no no it is not"
Haircut looking bomb 😊
Here we go, locked in.
Took your advice and deleted social media from my phone after this. It’s all just … insane
I hope you’re okay Alex
There will be a time where she will threaten to do something and possibly go through with it, and everyone will not take it seriously.
For Elphaba's sake I hope she feels comfortable enough to possibly get help. Whether she is serious or just lying again. I hope she gets better.
ALEX I MISSED UUU
My home town is being evacuated due to fires and I seen a firefighter get banned off a live on TikTok last night for SITTING in his not running truck.
Oh man that is so strange about black mirror
The discord links broken
No that singing happened a little while after she waved the utensil around
elphabas blaming everyone but herself it is quite sad
Nice haircut Alex
People raising awareness of this incident have had accounts removed , people are getting account strikes and bans for talking about it yet elphaba is still on the app.
i sincerely hope elphaba gets the help she needs, she seems genuinely unwell and unsafe 🫤
Lovely haircut,, 🤗🤗
Tik Tok are not worried all they are worried about are views and advertising if Elphaba effected the advertising then BOOM 💥 she would be gone . As far as A and E goes this was behavioural not mental illness that’s why she was send home with an obligatory diazepam at 2mg . Whilst then lies again saying she wasn’t an in patient because there were no beds . NO you weren’t unwell that’s why sent home .
think a lot of the issues with elphaba is a classic case of girl who cried wolf. She’s lied about so much already so most assume she’s also lying about being suicidal- whether she is or not isn’t the point here. the point is that for her own health and safety and for the safety of other users on the platform, her time on tiktok needs to come to an end. Tiktok are absolutely disgusting for allowing this creator to carry on with no consequences whatsoever. it would be safer for her and everyone who sees her content if they pulled their socks up and did something about this and not just let her carry on being rewarded for something so awful. it’s just going to encourage her and others to begin or continue acting in this manner.
1:14 singing was an hour-two before the incident. Just goes to show how fast her emotions can explode and how dangerous it is for her to be live on social media 24/7.
i got banned on tiktok for saying the word creampie... MEANWHILE SOMEONE CAN DO THIS? WHAT
Please do another tag team vid with Atozy!!!! I loved those vids and would like to see more!!!
i got in trouble just for scrolling and spamming hearts and gifts yet this thing allowed to happen
As much as I think not giving Elphaba attention WOULD be better for them, I'm not sure if theyre mentally ready to get that help that would allow them to healthily stop seeking attention. Hopefully, one day, they will. Sooner rather than later. I see someone struggling mentally. Even if its not mental illness she was born with, it could be something she developed over time or something caused by an event in her past. Yet, they seem to not be getting help from the content. If they are seeking help, I hope she listens and makes the changes she needs too to heal, improve. Yet, it cannot be forced.
Im an example of that as an autistic child who refused the treatments and therapy bc my dioctors didnt listen to me. and when they did, they left to other states not long into my treatment (our state pays poorly sadly. Esp my area of our state.) It wasnt until i moved state with zero support system or help with professional supports that I decided I needed to get help on my own. So as an adult now (almost 30. wow i didnt think id make it this far honestly.), ive improved so much since i started seeking help in 2016 on my terms. And the journey has been tough and agonizing. There are some friendships I'll never get back. And thats okay. I understand that so much. Im not changing myself for the better to get back in their lives, I'm doing it to stop my harmful cycle. I'm doing this to heal and grow so I never hurt others again.
And im not saying i was not a victim bc, theres plenty of trauma from my early and late childhood and even recent trauma ive been unlucky to take on. But my toxic habits I learned to cope, detatch, distract, and force myself to move on led to me harming others. My lack of seeking help caused many pain.
ik this comment is longwinded, but i hope my experiences can help others.
Tiktok is crazy i got a community guidelines for an emoji and they get nothing
I'm a little amused by the irony of just watching this video now. I've been offline more often lately, living well.
I’m 24 and nearly EVERY tiktok I’ve ever posted with drink in it has been taken down, how is she getting away with it? Why aren’t the videos getting taken down? There is actually real world problems going on right now, this is just ridiculous
People forget that infamous isn't the same as famous
Everyone already knows she’s more than doing it for attention but that’s exactly why people say it. Because she never actually does anything to help herself, she just freaks out and then expects people around her to lift her up. I’ve learned from first hand experience, if you don’t wanna help yourself you won’t change. She’s going that route
1:47 well given the fact someone unsubscribed themselves live on camera and TikTok allowed the stream to continue running for about an hour because they're we're too busy trying to cover their own ass and didn't contact the police I'm not surprised they didn't do anything in this situation...
You have our permission: enough elphaba. We give you full permission to make videos on stuff that makes you happy
I was banned on tiktok live once for playing Newgrounds games for a small audience of 5 people in the live💀 what a world we live in😂
Wait which episode of Black Mirror is he referencing? Im going blank
I really hate the “they’re just doing it for attention!” argument. Like… yeah. They are. SO GET THEM HELP! If they get to the point where the only way they know how to ask for help is by threatening themselves on a TikTok livestream, then they need HELP. They do NOT need to be punished or isolated even more. It’s so sad that Elpheba is not receiving the help that she CLEARLY needs.
hard disagree. you can only help ppl who want to be helped. she has the means, including the money, to seek help and she does not. instead she tries to gain clout on tiktok by pulling inappropriate stunts all the time, knowing full well it will garner attention and that attention will turn into views and those views will turn into money. in this day in age of accessibility, it is easier than ever to receive therapy and guidance with a click of a button. you can push and push and push and unless that person wants change for themselves, it will never happen. it's unfortunate, but that's how it is. she isn't going to want to better herself as long as she's making money from it. that being said, the BEST thing would be to at least restrict her tiktok for a bit so that she can't profit off of her declining mental health so maybe, just maybe, she'll see that tiktok is contributing to her unhappiness and issues. but they won't do that because they also make a percent off the virality of her actions
Bing Bing, more Elphaba news!
alex could’ve titled half the videos on his channel the same thing as this one and they’d all be accurate titles
Tiktok needs to do something about Elphaba. But they won't. Money speaks volumes.
Remember, silly cat videos can still bring joy
Found out she is local to me and now I am embarrassed to meet new people
ALEX💀🙏🏻 Elphaba or wtv her name is MUTED me cuz she’s watching ur vids RN. and I said “is that my lovely Alex?”
She’s definitely not mentally well. Her coming back singing doesn’t mean she doesn’t need help even if it was attention seeking, this behaviour should be taken with the utmost seriousness. Anyone that’s been there knows you can fake being okay till you can’t anymore. Even if you dislike her I think this behaviour needs to handled seriously and the fact the TikTok haven’t done anything is disgusting…
No one should ever do that
It’s an incredibly serious situation
Even if someone says “shes doing it for attention” if someone EVER threatens their own life it needs to be taken seriously because you don’t know whats going on in their head
If shes faking, she needs help, if shes not, she needs help
You just cant risk someones life like that
If she was faking, its still a sign that *something* is wrong
I don’t care how horrible or good someone is or if theyre faking when they say they’ll hurt themselves; if someone ever insinuates harm on their own life or others action needs to be taken
Sometimes people *do* publicize something like that because it’s a genuine cry for help and they don’t have someone irl to turn to that could help
Sometimes its just a stunt to get clout and internet points
Whether its real or not someone needs to be called to do a welfare check if anyone does something like that
This woman sincerely needs help
The best thing to do is ignore her. As long as people are making videos about her she will keep going. Report her when needed but do it silently, without brag posting. Don’t give her the exposure she’s wanting. Eventually she’ll end up at the bottom with Paul Breach.
Why is Elphaba not locked up by now?!
Her behaviour needs to b kept private, why tik tok doesn't permanently ban her I have no idea. I don't blame you for checking out of this situation. An attempt like that should not be glorified.
Whatever makes tiktok revenue they close a blind eye too