From the television series "Star Trek," Season 1, Episode 2, "Charlie X," a nit that makes us wonder exactly what Captain Kirk was doing in that turbolift with that young man.
Ya creepy AF...and thru the years I always suspected that for that special effect...it may have been as simple (and quite creepily effective) as putting on a pantyhose over the actress's face lmao...think about it! ;D
What's interesting is in "Where no man has gone before" the producers decided to do an unbroken interior shot of the turbolift doors closing at a corridor, ascending to the bridge, and opening where we can clearly see the bridge and view screen. It's a very convincing shot except if you listen carefuly, you can hear the sounds of the stage crew moving the false corridor wall out of the way as the turbolift is rising.
Charlies powers destroy the USS Antares make laughing crewman disappear make all phasers disappear remove crew woman face make Mr Spock sing Bilbo Baggins so I think Changing kirks uniform in the turbo lift would not be a problem lol
I use to watch all trek in the day TOS,TNG,DS9,Voyager, and Enterprise , I have never watch one episode of STD as soon as I saw the Klingons new look I vowed I am out, and from what I have heard I have saved myself a lot of pain. The Orville is my new trek some episodes in season 1/2 pushed it a bit with woke crap but S3 seems to gotten rid that crap.
Time is compressed in a TV episode. What is one hour on TV could represent days worth of events. The episode where Kirk became Kirok took place over the course of months. So it isn't unreasonable to assume that Kirk halted the turbo lift on deck two, where his quarters are, to change shirts before proceeding to the bridge. Maybe he noticed an odor on his yellow shirt.
It means: continuity error. That is, because this show was produced on a tight budget and schedule, they did not have the luxury of correcting slight mistakes such as this. The bridge part of the scene may have been filmed on a different day than the entering the lift part, and there really is no 'tubo lift'. It is just another small set that doesn't really move. In 1966 they were just hoping the show would last another season. They could have had no idea that 50 years later there would be youtube and DVD boxed sets and that legions of trekkies with nothing better to do would be picking over every frame of the show looking for things like this!
Really. I mean... how old is he? 15? I've seen other videos, where the scenes were taken out of context, and cut to make the characters appear gay. You hit the nail on the head in describing these bottom-feeders. And even if, with a snowball's chance in hell, that they were right... WHO CARES? If this sort of thing gives you the giggles... I gotta wonder just how low your maturity level is.
@@philbertchow5425 Ahhhhhh... the ol "fun at parties" line. Please get a new insult. You kids have worn that out. So, I'm guessing, like the other school girls that giggle over that... you're 15 too? Yeah... I am fun at parties, like all the other mature adults I roll with. I eagerly await your next lame insult. When you're done, you can go ahead and claim your badly-needed CZcams victory, as long it it makes you feel a little less shitty about yourself.
"I am on my way to the bridge now." Kirk speaks slow, relaxed, there is no urgency. So he simply changed his shirt on his way to the bridge. Nothing special about. Well, yes, it is an error, but why making such a wave if it can be explained.
The turbo lift scene. Hmm. Maybe Kirk decided to stop off at his quarters to change his stinky uniform shirt so now it's green? Great way to explain the lack of continuity.
Here’s what [could’ve] happened in the turbo lift; Charley said “I don’t like that shirt…I like this one much better.” When they arrived on the bridge…a different shirt! Only in this episode could this inconsistency be explained away!
This is a result of how TV shows and movies are made. Events that are supposed to occur within a few minutes of each other may actual be filmed hours, days, or weeks apart if its a movie. Also, reshoots. Normally a continuity director would catch these IF there is a budget for one.
In a way a Voyager episode was a whole episode cf continuity errors but done entirely on purpose. I can't recall the name but it involved an anomoly causing sections of Voyager to existi in different parts of time. Then there was "Twisted".
" Eh, Charlie?, I meant to go to my quarters and change my shirt..........perhaps can you do your " Magic" on me ?." " with your permission, .......what shirt Captain ?." " My green wrap around will do." " OK , Captain, call it done." " Er, eh Thank you, Charlie." " Any time, Captain."😂 Kirk with a different shirt enters the bridge with Charlie, mystery solved.
Well, I sheepishly confess, that I've been watching ST:TOS for about that long (since later childhood in the mid-ish-1970s), and it's the first I've noticed it. Ahem.
The TOS command uniforms were actually lime green velour, a particular shade that was basically incompatible with the combination of color film, film-to-video conversion, NTSC broadcast color, and studio lighting of the day, to the point where it mostly appeared gold. Every now and then there would be a scene with a spot light (like this entrance to the bridge scene) or natural light on location that would reveal the proper green. Star Trek was not the only sci-fi series of the day to have this problem: "Athena from the green dimension" on "Lost in Space" also ended up gold on the late 60s color TV screens.
for context, Charlie can manipulate items and people. So in universe, he could of just changed Kirk from captain clothes to lazy clothes to humiliate him. In reality, two days of shooting and a terrible continuity error
Kirk: "Computer, green tunic #4." It's an offshoot of transporter technology. Mishaps were not uncommon. For example, a portion of the clothing would sometimes materialize under the skin; this was especially uncomfortable with undergarments.
You know, I've seen this episode of Star Trek many times and I never caught that. Makes you wonder what happened in between scenes that caused a wardrobe change. He spill coffee on his shirt?
The reason for this is simple (kinda like the "What Color is the Dress"), the early S.T. shirts were green under normal lighting, but when using different type of lights would show up as being gold in color!
Charlie found the colour displeasing so changed it, using the same kung fu powers as Master Betty, who is a great magician and can change your clothes from black to red and back again
Kind of like the Robinsons clothes washer in Lost In Space. You just dump the dirty clothes in. Turn it on for 10 seconds and the clothes come out clean folded and sealed in plastic bags
I'm probably wrong but I imagine that he may have spilled or stained the shirt somehow in between scenes being filmed and they just gave him another one of his shirts and just sort of hoped it wouldn't be noticed? I assume they didn't make a crap ton of the uniforms and had just enough that each actor had at least one or two they could wear and was probably made for their size.
I saw/read somewhere in an interview that William Shatner ahated that mustard yellow shirt - note the huge zipper up the left side - and absolutely refused to wear it anymore. Hence the green one, which I always thought suited him best.
@ Lynette Chamas. Actually the reason that the production crew on the original Star Trek TV series had William Shatner wear a green wrap-around shirt sometimes was to hide his weight gain. Shatner, despite working out whenever he had time for it, had difficulty keeping his weight down. So the production staff decided that the best way to hide his weight gain was to have him wear the green velour wrap-around shirt which would hide his weight gain better than the yellow shirt.
What happens on the the turbolift doesn't always stay on the the turbolift. It does frequently smell like someone left a few smelly ones go in there on the way up
The answer probably has something to do with the lighting. Because the shirts were actually green they old appeared to be gold on the screen. I’m not sure how the color appeared on old TV sets.
For most viewers at the time, the shirts would appear as some shade of gray. Most people still had black and white TVs at the time. The shirt change may have went unnoticed for several years.
They may have filmed these scenes on different days and that's why this has happened. Also it is very unlikely anything weird happened as there isn't really a turbo lift. It is just a screen prop and there would have been someone watching the whole time during filming.
In fairness, Kirk's standard uniform was green, too - it's just a number of factors made it look yellow-gold on actual film and TV sets. The green wraparound tunic was of a different material that made its intended coloration stick out better.
Stuff like this gets called out in now and then, but you know, I because I didn't notice didn't make Star Trek any less enjoyable. But I guess some have to get there moments of fame by pointing out these little flaws. Enjoy yourself.
Maybe the turbolift has the same clothes changing feature as the batpoles from the Adam West Batman series.
A s both shows were on at the same time, what else could it be?
Holy Enterprise! You might be right!
😂😂😂
If the transporter room can have food delivery slots, the turbolift can have a clothes closet.
So Kirk steps out of the turbolift wearing the Batman outfit, looks down, and says “Damn! Not again!”
Charli obously changed Kirk's shirt with his mind powers and he was scared someone would notice
No evidence, but it does seem to be a logical explanation.
Never thought of that as an excuse..I buy it
Brilliant answer!
Continuity problems aside, this episode scared me when I was little. The no face woman terrified me!
Ya creepy AF...and thru the years I always suspected that for that special effect...it may have been as simple (and quite creepily effective) as putting on a pantyhose over the actress's face lmao...think about it! ;D
The original series loved pantyhose. FJB
@@denniskirk4055 I don't care how it was done. The thought of having no face seriously scared me when I was little!
Sacred me too, you’re not the only one.
The faceless crew lady scene was my absolute first exposure to Star Trek. I was up past my bedtime, and that sight got be heading back to bed pronto.
What's interesting is in "Where no man has gone before" the producers decided to do an unbroken interior shot of the turbolift doors closing at a corridor, ascending to the bridge, and opening where we can clearly see the bridge and view screen. It's a very convincing shot except if you listen carefuly, you can hear the sounds of the stage crew moving the false corridor wall out of the way as the turbolift is rising.
What happens in the Turbo Lift, stays in the Turbo Lift!😮
Charlies powers
destroy the USS Antares
make laughing crewman disappear
make all phasers disappear
remove crew woman face
make Mr Spock sing Bilbo Baggins
so I think Changing kirks uniform in the turbo lift would not be a problem lol
Make Yeoman Rand's uniform disappear😍FJB
Over-aging a crew-woman, turning poor Tina Lawton into a iguana...
Despite these errors I can still watch these episodes over, and over, and over again. Newer shows, even Star Trek, one viewing is more than enough!
I use to watch all trek in the day TOS,TNG,DS9,Voyager, and Enterprise , I have never watch one episode of STD as soon as I saw the Klingons new look I vowed I am out, and from what I have heard I have saved myself a lot of pain. The Orville is my new trek some episodes in season 1/2 pushed it a bit with woke crap but S3 seems to gotten rid that crap.
When I watch shows, ST included, I don’t sit there analyzing every second what might be different. I just enjoy what I am watching.
@@ntal5859 season 3 of picard seems to have made some decent trek, no alex kurtzman
Maybe they did it on purpose just to screw with everybody who is paying attention.
To be fair Charlie X is one of the terrible episodes. I am required to watch it because I am a obsessed
Time is compressed in a TV episode. What is one hour on TV could represent days worth of events. The episode where Kirk became Kirok took place over the course of months.
So it isn't unreasonable to assume that Kirk halted the turbo lift on deck two, where his quarters are, to change shirts before proceeding to the bridge. Maybe he noticed an odor on his yellow shirt.
When did Kirk become kirok?
@@001SpecialAgent "The Paradise Syndrome," s03e03.
THANK YOU for mentioning time compression! So many people think the events in an episode happen in 30 minutes or an hour.
Nah, it’s a continuity error
@@charlesameyer1 Obviously. But not one that can't be explained in-world.
LOL Cpt. Kirk's sweater changed! Never noticed that before. Still better to change clothes than to be changed into an iguana...🤣👍
It means: continuity error. That is, because this show was produced on a tight budget and schedule, they did not have the luxury of correcting slight mistakes such as this. The bridge part of the scene may have been filmed on a different day than the entering the lift part, and there really is no 'tubo lift'. It is just another small set that doesn't really move. In 1966 they were just hoping the show would last another season. They could have had no idea that 50 years later there would be youtube and DVD boxed sets and that legions of trekkies with nothing better to do would be picking over every frame of the show looking for things like this!
Really. I mean... how old is he? 15?
I've seen other videos, where the scenes were taken out of context, and cut to make the characters appear gay. You hit the nail on the head in describing these bottom-feeders. And even if, with a snowball's chance in hell, that they were right... WHO CARES? If this sort of thing gives you the giggles... I gotta wonder just how low your maturity level is.
😆😆
You’re fun at parties, aren’t you.
@@philbertchow5425 Ahhhhhh... the ol "fun at parties" line. Please get a new insult. You kids have worn that out.
So, I'm guessing, like the other school girls that giggle over that... you're 15 too?
Yeah... I am fun at parties, like all the other mature adults I roll with. I eagerly await your next lame insult. When you're done, you can go ahead and claim your badly-needed CZcams victory, as long it it makes you feel a little less shitty about yourself.
Wet blankets who don't like jokes 🖖
It was always green, it's the lighting that changed the color to gold.
I think Kirk stopped off in his quarters and changed his shirt really really really quick. Ha
"I am on my way to the bridge now." Kirk speaks slow, relaxed, there is no urgency. So he simply changed his shirt on his way to the bridge. Nothing special about.
Well, yes, it is an error, but why making such a wave if it can be explained.
Wow you’re right I never noticed that before
Kirk and Charlie engaged discreetly during the turbo-lift, so Kirk changed his clothes.
That turbolift is badass. Even picks your wardrobe. I wonder if they shower in there on the way up.
Imagine if Kirk got in the turbolift but then someone else got out at the bridge.
Nice - never noticed that before! "What happens in the turbolift stays in the turbolift".
also the green mile and rats di
What happens in the turbolift, stays in the turbolift.
The turbo lift scene. Hmm. Maybe Kirk decided to stop off at his quarters to change his stinky uniform shirt so now it's green? Great way to explain the lack of continuity.
@@roncaruso931 do you look at everything in sexual terms?
HE'S MAGIC.
Here’s what [could’ve] happened in the turbo lift; Charley said “I don’t like that shirt…I like this one much better.” When they arrived on the bridge…a different shirt! Only in this episode could this inconsistency be explained away!
Actually in, "The Squire of Gothos", it could've happened and been explained in the same way... if Trelaine so willed it.
Thanks, Phil, never noticed that before! What happens in the turbolift stays in the turbolift....
The shirt change of Kirk happens in several episodes.
The turbolifts on the Enterprise have 'emergency change of shirt' compartments, exclusively for the captain's use. To meet special protocols.
This is a result of how TV shows and movies are made. Events that are supposed to occur within a few minutes of each other may actual be filmed hours, days, or weeks apart if its a movie. Also, reshoots. Normally a continuity director would catch these IF there is a budget for one.
What's happens in the turbolift stays in the turbolift!
What happens in the turbo lift...stays in the turbo lift.
Wow, never noticed that one!
Kirk: hold this for me.
This is what is called a Continuity Error. Very prevalent in shows of that era.
In a way a Voyager episode was a whole episode cf continuity errors but done entirely on purpose. I can't recall the name but it involved an anomoly causing sections of Voyager to existi in different parts of time. Then there was "Twisted".
Brilliant observation. But, those of us who watched this show for over 50 years already knew about this massive blunder. Moving right along...
" Eh, Charlie?, I meant to go to my quarters and change my shirt..........perhaps can you do your " Magic" on me ?."
" with your permission, .......what shirt Captain ?."
" My green wrap around will do."
" OK , Captain, call it done."
" Er, eh Thank you, Charlie."
" Any time, Captain."😂
Kirk with a different shirt enters the bridge with Charlie, mystery solved.
Well, I sheepishly confess, that I've been watching ST:TOS for about that long (since later childhood in the mid-ish-1970s), and it's the first I've noticed it. Ahem.
What happens in the turbolift stays in the turbolift.
Charlie ripped it in the Turbolift and Kirk demanded he get him a new one.
Because Yeoman Rand was waiting in his quarters with a fresh clean shirt for him. After he kept Charlie waiting outside in the hallway for an hour.
I like that explanation, but he would have had to make it quick since he already announced he was on his way. Now if he had said, "I'm coming soon"...
@@anonygent Kirk was pretty fast when he needed to be.
Good catch! 😅
The TOS command uniforms were actually lime green velour, a particular shade that was basically incompatible with the combination of color film, film-to-video conversion, NTSC broadcast color, and studio lighting of the day, to the point where it mostly appeared gold. Every now and then there would be a scene with a spot light (like this entrance to the bridge scene) or natural light on location that would reveal the proper green. Star Trek was not the only sci-fi series of the day to have this problem: "Athena from the green dimension" on "Lost in Space" also ended up gold on the late 60s color TV screens.
True. The first thing I thought, too. But the design of the 2 shirts is entirely different.
If that's the case, how do you explain scenes where a green-shirted Kirk is seen along with gold-shirted peers?
for context, Charlie can manipulate items and people. So in universe, he could of just changed Kirk from captain clothes to lazy clothes to humiliate him. In reality, two days of shooting and a terrible continuity error
Kirk got the upper hand by not noticing it.
Wow! 😮 Never caught that.
Oh, that was glorious!
Kirk: "Computer, green tunic #4." It's an offshoot of transporter technology. Mishaps were not uncommon. For example, a portion of the clothing would sometimes materialize under the skin; this was especially uncomfortable with undergarments.
In other words, what happens in the turbolift STAYS in the turbolift.
o.0
.....Stays in the Turbolift.
You know, I've seen this episode of Star Trek many times and I never caught that. Makes you wonder what happened in between scenes that caused a wardrobe change. He spill coffee on his shirt?
He doubled back to his quarters, and changed
The reason for this is simple (kinda like the "What Color is the Dress"), the early S.T. shirts were green under normal lighting, but when using different type of lights would show up as being gold in color!
Charlie found the colour displeasing so changed it, using the same kung fu powers as Master Betty, who is a great magician and can change your clothes from black to red and back again
....stays on the turbolift.
Hot times in the turbolift.
Could be a fun drinking game "TOS continuity errors" 🤓
That is not a drinking game that is called being a binge drinker. !!!
.....stays on the turbo lift.
Kind of like the Robinsons clothes washer in Lost In Space. You just dump the dirty clothes in. Turn it on for 10 seconds and the clothes come out clean folded and sealed in plastic bags
I have never noticed that ... oh the next time I watch, people will think I have keen eye sight and memory.
Well, it was the 1960s. A different era.
Unhealthy and disturbing father-son relationships were apparently quite commonplace.
... stays in the turbolift 😉
I'm probably wrong but I imagine that he may have spilled or stained the shirt somehow in between scenes being filmed and they just gave him another one of his shirts and just sort of hoped it wouldn't be noticed? I assume they didn't make a crap ton of the uniforms and had just enough that each actor had at least one or two they could wear and was probably made for their size.
I saw/read somewhere in an interview that William Shatner ahated that mustard yellow shirt - note the huge zipper up the left side - and absolutely refused to wear it anymore. Hence the green one, which I always thought suited him best.
@ Lynette Chamas. Actually the reason that the production crew on the original Star Trek TV series had William Shatner wear a green wrap-around shirt sometimes was to hide his weight gain. Shatner, despite working out whenever he had time for it, had difficulty keeping his weight down. So the production staff decided that the best way to hide his weight gain was to have him wear the green velour wrap-around shirt which would hide his weight gain better than the yellow shirt.
Not only different but upgraded with gold leaf. More dress-uniform style.
Charlie and those mind powers again..
Charlie is capable of a lot!!.....Maybe he changed Kirk's shirt for him! ....lol...
Lol it means they were churning out thirty hours of this show every year
never noticed that
who new untill this video I never paid attention CGI could retune the shirt in the next rebooted series
It’s actually the Batpole.
A turbo event! 😅
Weird how I never noticed that, maybe because my television was black-and-white ?
Some wardrobe continuity guy obviously got a talking to, if not fired.
Not just a cabin boy
a STAR Cabin Boy..!
Looks like Charlie didn't like the gold uniform and decided to change it with his powers.
It could have been worse; Charlie could've removed Kirk's pants! 😮
Yeah this is old news. They got the costumes wrong for Kirk on this ep
Apparently they stopped off at the captain's quarters....and then resumed to the bridge......not that there's anything wrong with that.
What happens in the turbo lift….. stays in the turbo lift
This is nothing compared to Steven Seagal's wardrobe changes while he's driving a car in one of his later terrible movies
What happens on the the turbolift doesn't always stay on the the turbolift. It does frequently smell like someone left a few smelly ones go in there on the way up
LOL " PRICELESS "
Oops.
someone farted in the turbolift
Charlie had powers, maybe he changed it in the turbolift.
LOL seen it a 100 times and never noticed it. See Hollywood knows how dumb we are. It’s like Batman and Robin to the Bat cave
Oh good god..... hahaha That's some scary shit!
So he couldn't simply have remembered he wanted go to his quarters on the way to the bridge to change his tunic?
He could, but in the absence of a long period of time (say, the following day). A uniform change needs to be explained in the story
Oops! They got the wardrobe wrong for the shoot. 🤷♂️
The answer probably has something to do with the lighting. Because the shirts were actually green they old appeared to be gold on the screen. I’m not sure how the color appeared on old TV sets.
For most viewers at the time, the shirts would appear as some shade of gray. Most people still had black and white TVs at the time. The shirt change may have went unnoticed for several years.
It's definitely a different shirt, though.
They may have filmed these scenes on different days and that's why this has happened. Also it is very unlikely anything weird happened as there isn't really a turbo lift. It is just a screen prop and there would have been someone watching the whole time during filming.
You would think that someone Bill would have remembered. So much for checking continuity.
I missed that. woudln't it be better in black and white ?
Did you also see the flea on the tick?
obviously his turbo lift left a DNA stain on the other shirt...
I love my Star Trek I'm putting my money on a continuity flaw... not a turbo shaft!
Nothing untoward happening between Kirk and Charlie, contrary to the innuendo in the narrative. Maybe Kirk has a really runny nose.
I never really liked that green uniform Kirk wore in a few episodes of seasons 1 and 2.
In fairness, Kirk's standard uniform was green, too - it's just a number of factors made it look yellow-gold on actual film and TV sets. The green wraparound tunic was of a different material that made its intended coloration stick out better.
Brokeback turbolift 🤠
How does a lift have a turbo
How dare he change shirts?
I don't care, as long as can see Uhura!!!
His shirt turned into a shirt hulk?
Stuff like this gets called out in now and then, but you know, I because I didn't notice didn't make Star Trek any less enjoyable. But I guess some have to get there moments of fame by pointing out these little flaws. Enjoy yourself.
Oops 😬
🤣
Haha
Ha ha! I think Charlie and the Captain just boldly went where no two men have gone before. "First, lets stop by my cabin!"