A yacht designed by Porsche? Sailing Elan's sporty new GT6
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- čas přidán 12. 11. 2020
- Join Toby in Scotland as he spends 24hrs aboard Elan's new 49ft flagship GT6 and gives you a full walkthrough. What does Studio F.A. Porsche bring to this Humphreys design and who is this boat for? See the full report in Yachting World December 2020
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Toby , I enjoy the fact that you sail these boats and show what they’re capable of. A lot of the boat tours I see the vendor just walks through and shows the rigging and interior. Thank you for being so thorough.
Much appreciated
Really appreciate this video as so much attention is paid to the actual feel of the boat, the look in areas such as the salon and cockpit. So many videos are just close up direct camera shots of every surface of the boat, while missing the actual views and feel of the areas where are spend most of your time.
Thank you!
Proud to be Slovenian. And my father actually worked in Elan since 1978.
👍
You always can hear when Toby is happy or if he is not...
no wind that day
Kind of fascinating , a proper walk through ‘ interview’ with the boat , thank you T.
It’s so far removed from anything I have ever ever sailed ! I would need to see out to remind myself one is afloat , possibly less so on passage I dunno ..
best part was seeing "Drum" @26:38
I've got the same PICO battery monitor on my 1971 built Twister :-)
I would love to see Toby have reviews of this length in all sailing yacht reviews. Yachting World, together with one other periodical is the only channel I am aware of which prepares professional sailboat reviews **including** the sailing characteristics. All others are more walkthroughs (they are also nice in their own category).
Having said this, I am not a Yachting World subscriber and I am not paying anything for these reviews whereas Yachting World has to pay Toby and other employees. Therefore it is quite understandable that YW might be leaving the juice to the printed publication.
On the other hand, in recent times, quite a number of CZcams channels on sailing boat walkthroughs have popped up, some with subscribers in hundreds of thousands. There is certainly a revenue-model there, though I do not know if it has the potential of compensating the revenue which would potentially be cannibalized (from printed material) with longer youtube reviews. I'd like to think that would be similar to the trap brick&mortar businesses have fallen into underestimating the potential of internet in the early days and giving Amazon and others the lion share of the market later.
Anyways, thank you Toby for the great reviews.
Thank you for your considered comments S A. The balance of how much we put in videos and how much we reserve for the printed product has long been a discussion point. But I appreciate the positive feedback and will continue to do longer reviews here whenever possible (travel willing atm!) Toby
Very impressed was great to see ďrum at the finish
Porsche design -- as well as their approach to optioning up the ying-yang.
Good to see Yanmar power. I've had two and the e both been bulletproof.
Nice review, new format? I hope this continues
Interesting boat from what is a design house, a lot of things that work, a few really odd things like the window heights
I liked the galley forward which seems to take up a mere 4ft or so of boat length or interior
Ive not seem the electrical switches before, so not sure where they come from
Strange black appliqué on the rear of the coach, doesn't seem to do anything
maybe next time ;)
Nice photobomb by the C130
Looks amazing, GREAT HARBOUR YACHTS nailed it. Commissioned a new boat in a crazy covid world on time ,that must be one thrilled owner. They even arranged sunshine in Scotland for Toby to do the review.
Nice work Theo and Pete.
Can I come and sail on her next summer....
Il do the dishes🙂 ?
Thanks for the feedback! If you're offering to do the dishes you can come sailing anytime!
Currently in the water and available to virtual walk throughs and, when covid restrictions permit, viewings and test sails!
The GT5 was described as "a wolf in sheep's clothing" and we reckon the GT6 has even more performance.
Ha I will definitely do all the dishes for a chance on this incredible stead! Cruising from one world class distillery to another in elan GT6 style and comfort on the gorgeous west coast. Where do I sign 🙂🙂🙂
@@greatharbouryachts7097 Somebody said "performance" for this GT6? I think not.
'somebody' said insightful comment. I THINK NOT😜 care to expand on your remark aland discuss rather than ruin my happy friendly comment stream. Performance is a matter of perspective. 😜
HI Drew. Woudl I surmise that the boat is yours? I am looking into a new GT6 myself and would love to get in contact if at all possible. I'm based in Sydney
I'd buy it if I had the money but I would modify it by adding Solar Panels or flexible solar panels to at least 1 Kilowatt and a few pole-mounted Wind Turbines on the back for wind power.
elan has solved this problem in a more advanced way and I see they already offer a whole range of power generation and electric drive options. It should also be possible to further access solar panels or other charging methods. This solution comes from oceanvolt. I like this solution, but it can be expensive.
I would expect more of a racing yacht from a boat that slapped the Porsche name on it.
Anyway it's nice to see a new video Toby. Hope to see more.
Thanks Keith - although this is definitely not a racing yacht, even if some owners may choose to take part in the odd race
Toby, its nice to see you back. Stay safe and I'll enjoy the video, thank you.
Thanks Eric
Did I see Simon Lebon’s old boat Drum in the background? About 27:00?
Yes!
Just did a delivery of a 505Hanse & the not one tail locker , ropes from everywhere , pain in the ars & sliding F/F that we had to tack to open , to heavy & dangerous in any sea way ? Any 50 footer should have a optional hard dodger , cant be that hard ?
Nice Weekender
⚡️⚡️⚡️ Great Design! It seems like the right first boat. ⚡️⚡️⚡️
Pleasantly surprised by price point but thought (on first viewing) too much white GRP internally?
Maybe the next Porsche gets two helms as well :)
Are there designer sails? I am intereses in colorful ones.
Good video and excellent presentation. It's a pity though that, on a vessel of this size, the inclusion of a chart table area is sacrificed for the separate sink installation - speaks volumes about the market the designer is aiming for.
When selling something, always know your market and your customer.
The best part of this video was seeing Drum at the end.
Great review, thanks Toby. Always good to see and hear what you've read already on paper. Blimey! The Clyde's like GLASS!! Silly question: How do you get rid of cooking smells when there appear to be no opening hatches anywhere near the cooker....?
There are hatches right above it on the coachroof
@@davidanandrajapakse7694 The single hatch is on the midships line, not above the cooker though. Can see why Toby said it got smelly if there's no easy extraction/ventilation.
That forward galley is impractical...how do you hand up a cup of tea?
Why are you a fan of a Forward kitchen?? It seems to interfere with the gallery area (versus back by the engine/steps & chart desk typically)
No solar options?
Hi
Nice to see Drum again, what a boat!!!
Such a beautiful, modern looking, without seeming cheap.. Great salon layout..
Super nice. You can't beat classic elegance mixed with contemporary design.
Lovely boat, and a great review Toby it's good to see you back out there.
Also great to see my old friend Drum in the background. I grew up sailing out of Rhu marina and even managed to get a look round her, since she was on the next mooring to us. 😁
Thank you!
@@yachtingworld how do you feel the GT6 will fair in the more typical heavy weather on the west coast?
Boat was supplied by Great harbour Yachts on the west coast. They have their own channel and walk through clips. Speak to Theo he helped choose the spec and arrange the upgraded Ullman sails I believe.
@Simon Robinson Thanks Simon. It's in the full report in the December issue - but test boat extras pushed it over £500k mark
What a beautiful looking boat!
How does it handle a lightning strike and is hull solid fiberglass?
Nice video! How much is this boat???
Such stunning scenery. I enjoy this a lot. Reminds me of my trips where I take the good music like the Guns N Roses, Imagine Draongs or the Delta Parole and then enjoy the powerful feeling of the sea. ¡vamos!
Looks like a party boat that has the capability to sail.
What is "sporty" about this "Elan's sporty new GT6"? I am assuming it is not its sailing performance. It looks like having ordinary cruiser-sailing properties, not a performance-cruiser-sailing.
Then what makes it sporty? Can somebody enlighten?
marketing....it's just marketing
For me, the same two questions always apply when a boat claims to be a long distance cruiser, or has pretensions of being one. Where is the extra freezer and where is the washer/dryer? 🖖✌
I also will not leave home without a dishwasher :) Give me an Alubat Onvi 400 or Allures 40.9 anyday over this.
@@TheIdontcarewhat I can definitely see that being a necessity, since running a load of dishes in a dishwasher uses less water than washing them by hand. 🖖💯
This is Porsche Cayenne, is not 911.
Thank you for good work!
What a beauty! I’m in love now
Aż boli oglądanie tej recenzji. Oko bolało
Price?
Expecting planing boats if your into racing, even Pogo style would be faster. Or performance Cats.
Toby, I see DRUM in the background. Isn’t that worth a comment!? Nothing wrong with the GT5, but DRUM is Whitbread history!
Agreed, a legend. But sad to see her looking a little neglected
sporty car design, it's a winner
Wow... fantastic!
A style failure if you can’t see the sea or the mast from inside.
Beautiful. Love it.
Toby did you know you standing next to the most famous yacht in the world @ 27:13?
Yes!
Narrow dorways. Sooooo, you're saying it's not american friendly???
It’s probably not a great fit for our savior Angela Merkel either.
Absolutely stunning
I would think the bumpers would make a mess of those windows in the hull.
Looks like a decent weekender or charter boat, but it seems like ownership would be full of frustrations.
Can you elaborate on which frustrations?
@@leonlevstik I mean, the lack of traveller immediately disqualifies it in my mind, but to continue, the running rigging being run on an indirect path with largely inaccessible lengths, the boom height, the grill being at a good working height only from the swim step, the furler drum is crammed below the deck and the furling line looks like it could chafe and it would never dry, the massive amount of space on the deck with nothing to hold onto, no good hand holds when entering the cabin, no chart table (that tiny thing they have in there is hardly helpful), the lack of sight lines from in the cabin, a fridge that opens out, the microwave and it's weird recessed motor-lifting setup, the access to the autopilot rams, and I'm probably wrong, but the mast does seem weirdly far forward for a boat to handle well. Of course, those are just my opinions and I don't think those things are all deal breakers, it just seems like it would be really frustrating to deal with that stuff. I'd also like to know how big of a battery bank it carries and how they're recharged because holy hell, it needs a big one. I'm sure it sails just fine, long term issues seem like they would be annoying is all.
@@buttrumpus good points. But the boat is not meant to do Atlantic crossings, or any other blue water sailing, but rather med and costal sailing with small crew on 2 - 3 weeks on board and extended weekends. And yes, having Porsche to design a boat (any) isn't probably a good idea. Humpy to design a hull - good choice.
Lack of traveler disturbed me to. Running rigging under the deck OK for me.
Med gets heavy storms too, so life raft down below, I don't know.
I worked in Seaway as furniture designer a decade a go, and there are some design solutions I don't like. Nice mix of classic design amd contemporary but...
Clearly Porsche is not up to boat interior design. Nice looks and esthetics but not much of practical solutions. I would design differently that galley, salon & births. Like the cockpit doe, not the winches position amd nice solution for leftover ropes in locker (if it's drained & good chamfered)
Nice, very good looking but is there a market for this kind of boat, not a racer or fast, not a blue water (like Amel), large cruising monohull. I would not want one new, maybe use at half price in a few years. Too big to be a weekender and not quite design to be a live aboard. The interior layout is disappointing except for the galley. You don't see out, no nav station and very small head for such a big boat. Feature and layout wise, it looks like something that Beneteau would build for the charter market.
It's a typical performance cruiser for the Med summer season (with posh tendencies). You don't spend much time in the cabin and you appreciate the performance in the normally lighter winds of the summer. This is the type of sailing yacht we used to spend our summers in where we would do 3 - 4 weeks sailing trips twice a year + as many extended 3 day weekends we could steal away.
The build quality of the Elans is typically high, while the Humphrey designed hulls tend to do a good job.The Porsche styling is subjective - although I liked the galley position and layout and the lightness of the interior. I don't think I would go for the 3 cabin layout though.
There is also no ventilation in the shower or above the stove.
@@SierraLimaOscar Performance cruiser? This GT6? I think not.
If only.
I love it!
Looks more like Elan wanted a flash name like Porsche name on the boat, bugger all visible that Porsche did!
The Elan sails really well and is a great boat for entertaining. But what I don't like about the Elan is the multiple floor levels. I am always falling and tripping as do my students.
Its real shame you cannot have an option for traveller because you have so much space on that coach roof for one !
Very nice. Like the looks and layout. Price is large. But if you needed a boat like this maybe the price is not so bad? Thanks for the video
Are you ok mate? Feeling a bit under the weather?
Too many Tenants the night before
what a nice an clean boat. atm it's buyers market in DK......So maybe i could find an X6 for cheep lol
A little CNB 66
I guess this boat is more like those attention-grabber dresses in fashion shows which are good for publicity but nobody really wants to wear them.
I just don't get it. Yes it may be for med cruising and swimming off the back but Elan aren't selling to the charter market. If I'm not misunderstood they are selling to real sailing enthusiasts with a few spare quid. So what sailor worth his/her salt wants such a compromised rigging layout? No traveller, hidden running rigging (that Alu cage is a glorified inspection hatch), convoluted mainsheet German (pet hate, too much friction), hidden furler etc. Don't buy into the Porsche marketing either, who's gonna fall for that crazy upcharge for some kinked handhelds. Save a few quid and go Jeannaeau. Or am i wrong.
I'd rather go for an Azuree 46
Love it and why do we not have sleek pretty hard tops?
It's Amel 60
So, I fell in love with the Rob Humphrey's designed GT5 for her ocean passage capabilities. Over built, solid as a rock, sea kindly in the heavy going with nary a creak nor squeak during heavy downwind & following seas. Sure, I don't love the lil sister's dayhead placement, but- other than that truly minor gripe- I would circumnavigate happily. The Porsche design part seems to more of preventing of major gaffes rather than a nitpicky styling exercise- I like it all. I have been favorably impressed with build quality and have heard no nightmares of poor fitment- even on ex charter vessels. I think there may be a world of happy 2nd owners who stay quiet to ensure these remain available for projects, sabbaticals & weekend family boats. (Elan- NOT the GT6 of course!)
I'm with you David. Rob does not draw any bad boats in my view. I'm personally very keen on the GT6
I looked on a brand new Elan in 2018. Wasn't impressed at all by the build quality. The one I looked at had a huge water stain on the main bulkhead where it met the underside of the deck. Surprised the dealer showed it to be honest. I don't think Elan sits between Hanse/Beneteau/Jeanneau and xyachts. I don't get that comment at all
Elan offers various product lines, while this boat is an upper range class. Spot on review.
Porsche put their name on a boat with 'no option for a traveller?' Looks like a great boat for drinking, sailing not so much
Excellent point. This is a 50 foot day sailor. Really like the tangled sheet tail locker.
Toby, would you say this is a blue water cruiser? Would you sail this around the globe? Live aboard?
I would say best for coastal cruising and certainly competent for offshore passages, but not designed for live aboard cruising. Easy, fast, enjoyable sailing.
@@yachtingworld Is there anything similar in the same price range you would recommend for living aboard and sailing globally?
Music is too loud compared to the speaking.
Turn your speakers wayy down so you do not understand what they are saying and compare levels by ear then.
Who is the owner to Drum now
Clearly designed by car guys who are not into the sailing 😂😂
Beautiful
Exterior has similarities with Wauquiez Pilot Saloon 42
don't think it will sell well for them. Nothing differentiating from the multitude of other monohulls similar.
could someone please buy this for me ... it would be appreciated!
Beautiful Blue Water boat. And with Battery/Solar technology so advanced, they should be the standard by now. Not a nasty Diesel!
Ridiculous life raft stowage....
Lots of details done decently but to my mind not an overly attractive boat. Overall disappointment given the Porsche involvement and lack of any new innovation.
I don't think the toffs at Porche ordered the beer, Tennents lager?
That’s my dream boat.
great boat for that money
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Well, it won't be confused with a Garcia 45...
What's with all the mumbling, I couldn't understand half of what the guy was saying. It was almost like he didn't want to be there.
Dedicated chart table is for people who still write checks. Good to see it fade away slowly year over year.
Has a ikea look to it
Nice...but I'm a live aboard type of guy....I think they will streamline this vessel in the future....however for the price it's not a practical vessel nor does it suit my taste
Ikea boat
Pronounced "Pour ShAh"
You say tomato...
Assuming you are saying Elan correctly, you may as well say Porsche correctly. Call the company, it is a two syllable word. Since they were involved in the design, they may appreciate you getting it right. Just saying. On a more serious note, there appears to be a lack of backrest at the helm stations. Would you find this to be an issue?
Windows on the waterline again....Someone's going to come a cropper one day with this trend in design of looks over sea-worthyness....!!!!
U shape galley , running the wrong way, windows you cannot see out of ,
Better stick to car design?
That power panel is not from Elan. It is Simarines Nereide panel customized for Elan....and Porsche is pronounced "Por-sha"...it's a 2 syllable word
Бестолковая яхта.Тяжелая,большая а места внутри нет.И в каком месте она GT? Даже мебель не могли сделать из лёгкого дерева,везде эта дешёвая ЛДСП,которая выделяет формальдегиды при нагреве.
And the dishwasher is where? Oh, she's sleeping, I see, sorry.
Toby's never driven a Porsche! Come on you tube! We can fix this. Even I've driven one and I'm just some poverty stricken escapee.
Thanks Dave - I appreciate the campaign! T
One shouldn't be allowed to drive a Porsche, if you can't pronounce "Por-sha" correctly.