Which of these do you guys think is the best deal, considering price vs features? Check prices here: geni.us/BrevilleEspressoMach (Breville/Sage affiliate link)
I actually first learned how to pull a shot on the Barista Express, so I have a soft spot for it... I would say when it's time to upgrade, if space is a concern go for the Barista Pro, or just do what I did and get a separate grinder and the Dual Boiler! 😁
I got the sea salt impress ..it’s a fabulous espresso machine and its ease of use with the dose system and tamper is fantastic..I would recommend this machine to anyone starting out on the barista route. My milk skills are somewhat lacking at this point.. Thanks again for an excellent and informative video..😉
I have the express and I absolutely love it. It makes unbelievably good coffee. Wouldn't have anything else. I'm sure mine makes the steam wand quicker than that. I'll have to give a test!
The finacial jump from Barista pro to noticeably better system is quite high. Like Rancilio Silvia Pro X + 500€ grinder and you are looking at minium of 1700€
Hi Tom! Thanks for you videos... really really well done, so well done that I bought a Sage Barista Pro which arrived today :D So I will dismiss my Illy Iperespresso and start using my new Pro :) I've seen all your last videos of the Sage machines, and you always use the double shot basket with 18gr of coffee. As an Italian who drinks 4 coffees a day... having a double espresso each time it would be too much! :D It would be really appreciated if you could make a video using the single basket for a single espresso shot :) At least watching how you dial, it could be a good start to set mine! Thanks in advance ;)
What are your experiences with longevity of sage models? I have read so many horrifying stories online that I am holding back from the company. Background information: currently considering whether to get a DeLonghi Dedica Maestro Plus with the Eureka Mignon Specialita and the bottomless porta filter (~750€) or a refurbished Sage Oracle Touch with (only) 12 months of warranty for ~1000€. The latter one sounds intreaguing at first glance, but supposedly has issues with inconsistent grinds and temperature as well as major issues with the decalc program, which tends to kill quite a few of the oracle touches. Also, from my (not really profound) unterstanding of the matter, the significantly better Eureca grinder should result in better Espresso extraction (and is easily sufficient for a way higher end espresso machine in the long run). Any advice is welcome! :)
As an expert I would need your experience which one of these does give a good taste of expresso! My opinion is impress one but not sure! I want your advice please before purchasing the machine.
Honestly, I'd say they are very similar. I'd give the edge to the Express, or Express impress for the longer pre-infusion possible, and because it eventually heats the brew group. Also consider the new Ninja Luxe Cafe. It's pretty awesome.
I ended up with the Brevile colour touch impress model which must be a variant of the Pro for our New Zealand market. I would really like plumbed in water but otherwise it has been very good. Auto milk is great for take away coffee when in a hurry in the mornings. I do wonder how much better the 58mm Oracle model would have been at extracting more flavour and it has front fill for the water. I do find after making 2 coffees in a row when i have guests the 3rd and 4th coffees can vary due to the machine heating up.
@@geomcl I feel like the thermocoil has the edge if the machine is thoroughly heated up (20-30 minutes). I generally just make two shots at a time for my wife and I, and either machine is capable of that. Cheers!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Well, I finally chose Pro as I come from an e61 machine and my mainly reason for buying a Breville/Sage was for fast heating, waiting 20-30 minutes takes away the whole meaning of fast heating.
How reliable are these machines? My Philips super automatic broke down due to electrical issues after 4 years. Was mainly looking at the Barista Pro as replacement.
Mr Tom,my stilosa started leaking after a year.As a beginner i started with Delonghi stilosa, could you please recommend me any budget and decent esspresso machine around $500 except Delonghi their customer service is so horrible. Thanks
Recently I got barista express Even there is click in grind settings, I found I can set value in between clicks My shot time is not stable though 😅 like 15sec to 50sec I wonder I need better grinder for consistent shot time
Every different coffee you use will require different grind settings. If you're using the same beans and getting different results, then you may need new burrs for the built-in grinder or a standalone for more consistency.
At some point you are going to have to standardize these comparison or machine reviews; kind of like Doug Demiro or matt Watson but for coffee machines. I recall some stocks related youtube channel that have standardized their analysis through an excel sheet; splitting requirements into relevant categories.
@@HomesteadAce holy smokers! That guy has got 5 million subscribers. Can you recommend a good model video of his that I could take a look at as a reference?
@@TomsCoffeeCorner so the guy whose excel presentation style I like is this watch minute 2:00+ czcams.com/video/6ETEH-N5Zqc/video.htmlfeature=shared Regarding the two car related channels; they have the same MO for their car reviews; I don't know much about video production but I would standardize it to essentially go over the excel sheet categories and maybe have a "recommendation" scale like CarWOW does.
You’re right, it does. I don’t feel like they make a palpable difference, however to be honest. But, still nice to know that it’s got the most current burrs available.
It is, but you might have to adjust the inner collar to make it fine enough. I’ve showed that on each of my previous deep dive reviews of these models.
Well, it’s a small amount of coffee that packs a punch. Personally, espresso is my favorite form of coffee preparation. In particular, I love milk based drinks like cappuccinos. You cannot make those without espresso.
Well, I think this, and the Delong Deda are the two best selling espresso machines worldwide. You have to also realize that Breville has a stronghold on markets like Bath and Body Works, and other appliance stores.
Which of these do you guys think is the best deal, considering price vs features?
Check prices here: geni.us/BrevilleEspressoMach (Breville/Sage affiliate link)
I actually first learned how to pull a shot on the Barista Express, so I have a soft spot for it... I would say when it's time to upgrade, if space is a concern go for the Barista Pro, or just do what I did and get a separate grinder and the Dual Boiler! 😁
Which do you have ? Xx
I got the sea salt impress ..it’s a fabulous espresso machine and its ease of use with the dose system and tamper is fantastic..I would recommend this machine to anyone starting out on the barista route. My milk skills are somewhat lacking at this point.. Thanks again for an excellent and informative video..😉
I love a good “no fluff” video. I just ordered the pro from Amazon after watching this. Thanks for the info!
Nice! Thanks for the comment!
I have the express and I absolutely love it. It makes unbelievably good coffee. Wouldn't have anything else. I'm sure mine makes the steam wand quicker than that. I'll have to give a test!
Excellent as always
thanks so much Tom! This was extremely helpful.
Glad it was helpful!
I own a Barista Pro and it has been my favorite purchase of the year. I foresee being quite content with this machine for a while.
The finacial jump from Barista pro to noticeably better system is quite high. Like Rancilio Silvia Pro X + 500€ grinder and you are looking at minium of 1700€
Great video Tom you rock!!!!
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I would love a version of one of these machines with a dual boiler. Would happily pay a premium!
Sure, Breville also makes a dual boiler. I did a video on it...
Hi Tom!
Thanks for you videos... really really well done, so well done that I bought a Sage Barista Pro which arrived today :D So I will dismiss my Illy Iperespresso and start using my new Pro :)
I've seen all your last videos of the Sage machines, and you always use the double shot basket with 18gr of coffee. As an Italian who drinks 4 coffees a day... having a double espresso each time it would be too much! :D
It would be really appreciated if you could make a video using the single basket for a single espresso shot :) At least watching how you dial, it could be a good start to set mine!
Thanks in advance ;)
What are your experiences with longevity of sage models? I have read so many horrifying stories online that I am holding back from the company.
Background information: currently considering whether to get a DeLonghi Dedica Maestro Plus with the Eureka Mignon Specialita and the bottomless porta filter (~750€) or a refurbished Sage Oracle Touch with (only) 12 months of warranty for ~1000€. The latter one sounds intreaguing at first glance, but supposedly has issues with inconsistent grinds and temperature as well as major issues with the decalc program, which tends to kill quite a few of the oracle touches. Also, from my (not really profound) unterstanding of the matter, the significantly better Eureca grinder should result in better Espresso extraction (and is easily sufficient for a way higher end espresso machine in the long run).
Any advice is welcome! :)
As an expert I would need your experience which one of these does give a good taste of expresso! My opinion is impress one but not sure! I want your advice please before purchasing the machine.
Honestly, I'd say they are very similar. I'd give the edge to the Express, or Express impress for the longer pre-infusion possible, and because it eventually heats the brew group. Also consider the new Ninja Luxe Cafe. It's pretty awesome.
I ended up with the Brevile colour touch impress model which must be a variant of the Pro for our New Zealand market. I would really like plumbed in water but otherwise it has been very good. Auto milk is great for take away coffee when in a hurry in the mornings. I do wonder how much better the 58mm Oracle model would have been at extracting more flavour and it has front fill for the water. I do find after making 2 coffees in a row when i have guests the 3rd and 4th coffees can vary due to the machine heating up.
The pro for convenience. Any difference in espresso between thermocoil and thermojet? Any issue with pulling back to back shots with the thermojet?
@@geomcl I feel like the thermocoil has the edge if the machine is thoroughly heated up (20-30 minutes). I generally just make two shots at a time for my wife and I, and either machine is capable of that. Cheers!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Well, I finally chose Pro as I come from an e61 machine and my mainly reason for buying a Breville/Sage was for fast heating, waiting 20-30 minutes takes away the whole meaning of fast heating.
How reliable are these machines? My Philips super automatic broke down due to electrical issues after 4 years. Was mainly looking at the Barista Pro as replacement.
Expresss impress for sure 🤘🏻
Good video❤
Mr Tom,my stilosa started leaking after a year.As a beginner i started with Delonghi stilosa, could you please recommend me any budget and decent esspresso machine around $500 except Delonghi their customer service is so horrible. Thanks
Honestly for $500, I'd go for the Ninja Luxe.
The intelligent dosing seems handy. Is that only on the impress ?
Also the Touch Impress.
Recently I got barista express
Even there is click in grind settings, I found I can set value in between clicks
My shot time is not stable though 😅 like 15sec to 50sec
I wonder I need better grinder for consistent shot time
Every different coffee you use will require different grind settings. If you're using the same beans and getting different results, then you may need new burrs for the built-in grinder or a standalone for more consistency.
At some point you are going to have to standardize these comparison or machine reviews; kind of like Doug Demiro or matt Watson but for coffee machines.
I recall some stocks related youtube channel that have standardized their analysis through an excel sheet; splitting requirements into relevant categories.
@@HomesteadAce holy smokers! That guy has got 5 million subscribers. Can you recommend a good model video of his that I could take a look at as a reference?
@@TomsCoffeeCorner so the guy whose excel presentation style I like is this watch minute 2:00+ czcams.com/video/6ETEH-N5Zqc/video.htmlfeature=shared
Regarding the two car related channels; they have the same MO for their car reviews; I don't know much about video production but I would standardize it to essentially go over the excel sheet categories and maybe have a "recommendation" scale like CarWOW does.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner another channel whose video style I like is Vacuum Wars.
If I had to choose between the three it would be pro! But personally, I prefer a separate grinder.
Doesn't the Pro also have Baratza burrs as opposed to the generic burrs in the Express and Impress?
You’re right, it does. I don’t feel like they make a palpable difference, however to be honest. But, still nice to know that it’s got the most current burrs available.
Better the pro or the dual boiler?
Dual Boiler, for shizzle.
IS grinder in basic model good enough to grind for espresso?
It is, but you might have to adjust the inner collar to make it fine enough. I’ve showed that on each of my previous deep dive reviews of these models.
Seems to me that it’s a lot of money for a small amount of coffee, but it seems some folks think it’s worth it?
Well, it’s a small amount of coffee that packs a punch. Personally, espresso is my favorite form of coffee preparation. In particular, I love milk based drinks like cappuccinos. You cannot make those without espresso.
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They must sell a lot of those and/or, peeps don't like them after buying because local FB Marketplace is jammed with them, mostly the "Express".
Well, I think this, and the Delong Deda are the two best selling espresso machines worldwide. You have to also realize that Breville has a stronghold on markets like Bath and Body Works, and other appliance stores.
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