The Rise of 20-Hour Long Flights
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Select footage courtesy the AP Archive
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Cathay Pacific 777 landing shot courtesy PDX Aviation
a350 landing shot courtesy ZurichAirportSpotter
UPS footage courtesy UPS
Singapore Airlines a350 footage courtesy Amsterdam Airport Schiphol and Aviateur European Plane Spotted
Virgin Atlantic a340 footage courtesy Runway Fun
Qantas 787 footage courtesy Aviation Insider
As I mentioned at the end, I also did a video on the longest duration commercial flight in the world on my other channel, Half as Interesting--a little collaboration with myself. Check that video out here: czcams.com/video/EDeJKQSyGXI/video.html
Wendover Productions spacex will make all these flights obsolete!!!!!!
Where is Delhi to San Francisco Air India service ?
June 2017 I was flying back from Thailand on Qatar Airways with a connecting flight in Doha, Qatar. This was right after several other countries closed their airspace to Qatar Airways due to allegations of Qatar’s government supporting terrorism (some say it was Russian manipulation seeding distrust). Of course, this forced our flight WAY out of the usual path and it ended up being longer than the longest commercial route that previously existed. We landed at JFK in New York as planned originally but, rather than restrict them from US airspace, they had imposed restrictions that made the flight even more difficult to bear: No laptops, phones, tablets, handheld electronics, etc were allowed on the flight. My New Nintendo 3DS XL was stolen in Thailand but my 3-month-old Nintendo Switch had to stay in the cargo hold. :( Luckily, their planes are posh and were well equipped for entertainment no matter what seats you have. I feel they were the best airline for this to possibly happen to from a passenger’s perspective. :)
Should've been 'the takeoff of 20 hour-long flights'
Are you planning on making a video about the evolution of air travel in regard to climate change?
Is the industry going to take a hit because of increased concerns about emissions? And is there a technological advancement ready to answer those concerns?
Can't wait for non stop Newark to Newark flights
@MosoGaming/Vlogs it's called paying $17 for waiting at a packed penn station not knowing what platform your train is on til 2 mins before the train leaves, and being trampled by the crowd fighting for a seat
@@Maserati7200 +1
A cab can do it better
Maserati7200 *flashbacks intensify*
Has to be west bound in the evening and east bound in the morning :)
You know it's gonna be a good Wendover video if it has any mention of planes in the title.
The Iron Armenian aka G.I. Haigs woah ur here
The Iron Armenian aka G.I. Haigs why have I seen you in so many videos now
The Iron Armenian aka G.I. Haigs you mean, every video?
lol
Iron Armenian is slowly replacing Justin Y as being the guy in every comments section
Americans and Europeans: "I flew 12+ hours in economy once, never again!"
Me, from NZ *cries in 13 hours just to reach Singapore for the next flight*
SAMEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!
I´m from Europe and I would love to fly longer than 12 hours, but I´m crazy for planes and love flying :D
I dont think Europeans or Americans understand the pain
Tbh I feel so sorry for new Zealanders, everything is so far for y'all
Ive flown LHR to AKL via Changi
Do you know what happens to your luggage once you check it in at the desk?
Neither does British Airways.
I like what comedian Gallagher said one time. He said something like "i went to the United Airlines terminal, and said 'i want this piece of luggage to go to New York City, and this other piece of luggage to go to Denver.' The lady at the counter said 'sorry. We can't do that.' I said 'bullshit! You did it yesterday!'"
@@mylovesongs2429 hilarious 😂
British airways are pretty good. It's Ryanair you want to worry about.
@@brazeiar9672 Ryanair taught me just how much stuff I can fit in a carry on bag
MrPijus123 once Ryanair told me my bag was 0.2 kg over the limit, so I took out my lunch from my bag and ate it right there, in front of them, they promptly apologised and just told me to get on the plane because they were running late, so I didn’t, I kept on eating slowly and made the flight late by 15 minutes.
the rise of approximately 12min long wendover productions videos
Happy to see Airbus A350 is the winner
What? The Airbust A350 won the 12 min long Wendover Production video? @@jeroenjansen2709
I'd watch a whole doco
durianhead the rise of approximately 10 minutes long CZcams videos of any kind, in a nutshells
Jeroen Jansen Airbus a350 won, but let’s wait and see Boeing 777X
Imagine being on a plane for 19 hours with your destination being Newark...
RIMSHOT
*HAHA*
LOL! GREAT COMMENT
I've been to Newark. I'd probably shoot myself.
This is basically the modern-day, transcontinental version of Fiorello La Guardia's outburst at Newark Airport. (Look up how LaGuardia Airport came to be; it's an exceedingly New York story.) And I love it.
“Until north became south”... that’s the start of an epic adventure
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Or a trigger for Flat-Earthers! hahahahaha
You: Sitting for 20 hour without moving
Blood clot: *it's free real estate*
Oh mi gawd
You: sitting for 20 hours
Blood flow: Am I a joke to you?
@ThisKid
They should put bunk beds in these flights. Same amount of people, only lying instead of sitting.
I did the Doha - auckland quite recently and that shit feels in your legs when you finally walk off
Fuck me I did Doha to O'Hare 14 1/2 hours and I was about to lose my shit. Fuck an extra 5 1/2 hours.
Wendover Productions and Aviation. CZcams’s best love story
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or squarespace
"Some question whether trouble times are ahead for the industry"
Yup, isn't it a mad world how you can plan years in advanced, down to the dollar of your fuel cost, and then 2020 happens.
And then, after you dealt with the difficulties of a worldwide pandemic, almost 2 years later, putin happens...
@@Blex_040and then inflate
@@aditsaini5094 The aviaton industry is not seeing the crisis. Airbus and Boeing have years of orders backlogged.
2021 update: Quantas does run the non-stop Sydney-London flight and it's flight time is an estimated 23 hours and 20 minutes.
Perth to Rome also runs and is only 16 hours (considering Sydney to Dubai is 14.5) so its huge win
Qantas does not fly SYD-LHR non-stop yet, but they do fly SYD-LHR with a stop in SIN
2015: cheap oil
2019: cheap oil
*coronavirus has entered the chat*
2020: cheap as a barbie doll that has been tortured
yee
>airline buys oil
>Businessman runs over to give them money
This video was oddly predictive
just been on a $40 dollar delta flight from jfk to mia 😃
Then 2021 with idiotic environmentalism on the loom: pricey oil
"Because people are more sensitive to time than boxes."
*Amazon Prime has entered the chat*
GWS 😂😂😂
Now I'm imagining boxes sitting in a passenger seat in an airplane. Thanks
William 💀💀💀💀
But what about FedEx overnight delivery?
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Did you say *Plane?*
Airbus A380 - 1000
25.000 Km
1200 Passenger
20 hours 20 minutes
Whispers*
Did someone say Houston?
so?
Remember when this comment was funny? I don't.
WillTheProdigy sex 😂😂😂😂😂
This would be horror in economy class.. Just imagine flying this in business class though, I know I would be drunk out of my mind at touchdown
we need more guys like you when the English invented some sort of prop job they could actually fly across the ocean but by the time they got it to Market all the other airlines had jet engines you could have made a killing in England pitching your advice
A colleague found one of Singapore's ultra long flights tough enough in premium economy.
@@partypoet2012 Are you reffering to the Bristol Brabazon?
Nah I love ultra-long economy flights
Some of those flights don’t offer economy class
This feels like a documentary from a long forgotten past of what could've been.
The rise of neck pillow sales
Right!
I agree
And they’re completely useless.
hey i bought one it was awesome
Economy seats should have built in massage for your ass for non stop flights. Lol
Imagine sitting next to Wendover productions on the Singapore to Newark flight.
Ok imagine
Best 20 hours ever.
Fast talker yeah?
Imagine if you were sitting there and you had to go to the bathroom to take a shit and on the way to the bathroom you shit in your pants.
@@Robert-yf1kn Can you imagine how uncomfortable you would be if you were one of those types of people who would never use a public bathroom on a 20hr flight? Like seriously, how could you hold it for more than 22+ hours? (factoring in that you can't use an airport washroom either...)
>uses fuel to carry fuel
The burden of the Rocket Equation
Dabbing Kerbonaut Kerbal players know that pain
Hopefully laser propulsion will come into fruition soon enough on both, worry about fuel and amount of weight needed to store fuel will become a thing of the past!
Just slap some SRBs on and you are good. No need for all these fancy calculations and SSTOs.
At least until you go nuclear.
@@jazzerson7087 Laser propulsion is less than ideal inside an atmosphere, the reason for this is the same reason why you see the whole sky lit up during the day and not just a white-hot circle of intense light where the sun is. That being that the atmosphere scatters light passing through it though this is much much worse at lower altitudes where the air is thicker. This would require a much larger sail to pick up enough of the beam but this also increases the thrust needed exponentially as the sail also massively increases air drag which leads to a catch 22. Perhaps it could work with a hybrid scramjet to get the plane up high into the stratosphere before unfurling the sail so a satellite can push it but I am not sure and don't feel like doing the math right now.
10:55 I thought that was a picture till the guy walked out of the door.
"Until north became south..." Take that, flat-earthers!
Jess Chan this would work on that stupid flat earth model too
Flat earthers don't really care with facts, nor common sense.
@@boudewijnb uhh how exactly?
BoudewijnB 😂😂😂
@@KD-ns1hn Flat-earthers believe that the arctic is in the center of a flat disk-shaped world. So flying over the arctic is no problem.
Antarctica would be more of a problem in their view.
Ah straight lines indicating travel over a curved surface. I wonder how long before some flat earther uses this as evidence the earth is actually flat.
You can't argue with flat earthers.
They somehow manage to take contradictory evidence and spin it such in a way it makes them seem correct in their own minds.
Cody'sLab here’s homework for you, if Australia is close to Chile, then how come no “functional” flights for this route? If you search Qantas there’s a flight. However, it’s not functional, all Australia to Chile flights MUST fly to LA and such then head to Chile, this highly support flat earth as Australia and Chile are in opposite to each other in flat earth model.
they do, they also use the horizon as evidence that the earth is flat because the curvature of the earth is too great to actually see, which is also fucking stupid.
super
J It is proven that New Zealand is next to Australia, you can get there in an hour from Melbourne, and air New Zealand has direct flights to it. So no there are functional flights across the pacific.
I absolutely love the idea of Emirates etc of using a hub and spike network type of architecture in this way. A single stop isn’t all that terrible, and in order to connect one European city to all of the other cities in its network and vice versa, it only needs one additional flight.
I love how this channel always lists the references unlike many other channels, they make up a lot of facts
Boxes have feelings too!
#stopboxabuse
#boxlivesmatter
#stopboxabuse
@@ceiling771 #BoxLivesMatters
Boxists!
I am just thankful that I live in a day an age when someone in brazilian middle class (me and family), could afford to fly twice so far over their lifetimes to the other side of the planet (Japan). This took a decade of savings, and both our routes had flyover stops (first one was Toronto and then via Pacific, the second was in Qatar via Atlantic), but if you think about it, just amazing that it's even possible. We're talking about almost literally, the other side of the planet. Parts of Brazil are the closest to being perfect antipodes of parts of Japan.
Comparing to how my grandparents and grand grand parents migrated less than 100 years ago from Japan to Brazil, boarding ships that took almost a couple of months to traverse the same distance.... like 50 somethings days to less than 2 including waiting times in the flyover destinations. How the crap. In a single lifetime.
It also seems that we're reaching peak optimization there. The interests have shifted to making flight cheaper rather than faster, so this is kind of a glorious moment to be alive in history. xD
Man, it's mindblowing... perhaps someday in the distant future we can travel directly through tunnels bore straight through the planet, or some sort of teleportation device, but until then, I'm not exactly expecting another huge leap in prices going down and speeds going up in such a short period of time...
Ironically, a Boeing 707-323C disappeared once during a cargo flight between Tokyo Narita and Rio de Janeiro, in 1979. It just vanished (Varig flight 967). Even worse, for its captain, Gilberto Araujo Da Silva, it was his second near or death in plane driving : he had his first air crash only 6 years before in another 707 that sent ad patres 134 souls.
Of his last crash, nothing and no-one have ever been found.
Fuck Brazil.
I agree with you completely.
The world is getting smaller but the earth is still huge.
I hope one day, there is a non-stop flight connects Tokyo and San Paulo !
Mean to say... but your grandparent made a bad decision to immigrant to Brazil. You will become much richer if you were born and raised in Japan. Moreover, spending a decade of saving just to travel to Japan doesn't worth it at all....
it takes me less than a salary to fly to Japan for a month every year. especially the flight being the cheapest part. EU.
My tailbone would be the only cushion left after just 5 hours.
Dcc357 mine would be the last cushion after an hour and a half
I thought you wrote Taliban for a second...
@@volka2199 bruh..
Brilliant!
7:46 I’m glad you said Kiwi not New Zealandian
What? Hahaha!
* New Zed-lian is cool too though.
I say, "New Zealander". LOL.
So was I
I mean you're all fake so it doesn't matter
La to Sydney is the longest flight I've been on it was nuts. Can't imagine another 5 hours
Liam Tahaney did brisbane to LA last year myself, absolutely insane
Ask someone who did doha to Auckland....✋✋
Went nuts sitting for 16 and half hours
Mine wasn’t a flight, but a drive, I drove 18 hours from Bentonville, AR and to Denver, CL.
Me: How many airplane and aviation videos will you make?
Wendover: Yes
We all miss Concorde: under 3 hours across the Atlantic.....that sounds so last century.
But with its range, any longer route required a ton of refueling stops.
@@wojciechmuras553 If it were not for the p*ssy US overland supersonic flight ban, much of these concerns would disappear.
It is simply natural for an industry to evolve as it progresses. The market would demand better service and as such, technology would advance to the point that many problems are eventually solved.
Imagine if we had companies competing for supersonic aircraft today that are efficient, clean, and comfortable. Elongated Muskrat himself has hypothesized that the US domestic market could have been far more profitable had flights of range 1000-1500 miles been replaced at least in part with supersonic flights.
If by “last century” you mean normal, I completely agree
@@nathanoher4865 I heard an argument for the overland ban that really stuck with me; the boom will be audible to tens of thousands, but the plane only carries 100 people; it will be disrupting everyone for the benefit of the richer passengers that can afford it.
(en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_sonic_boom_tests) people apparently aren't affected much by it anyway, but there may be some property damage
@@henryzhang3961 NASA is developing technology that weakens aircraft sonic booms. These technologies could have been developed earlier had industry been allowed to progress.
The flights Musk was referring to included cargo. Amazon is, indeed, available to and used by everyone.
Meanwhile, the fuel inefficiency problem would have been worked on in the same way that subsonic passenger planes are becoming more efficient.
Do I recall debris on the runway was the reason for the only Concorde crash? Not the plane's fault?
I'd rather sit in economy class for 20 hours, than a donkey for 20 minutes.
This is a verified jesus lol
Is your brother Satan?
Sup jesus
@@RenTheGreat Yep, CZcams verified that he's the actual Jesus.
How is Jesus commenting on every video loooool the lord's power is real
I like long, non-stop flights because you don't have to worry about a connecting flight being canceled or delayed. Once you are on your flight you are going to your destination and I like the peace of mind in knowing that.
Very good job @Wendover! Your videos are super well structured and you could clearly see the amount of good work and passion you guys put in there. I'm looking forward to the next one already!
This is one of my favourite videos you've done. Very comprehensive and concise explanation!
Imagine sitting in an economy seat for 20 hours.. LOL
Cyanide pills aren't even included in the price
It can be heaven or hell. Totally depends on the airline.
Singapore Airlines only offers premium economy and up on this route
Imagine if you are even tall and need leg space to sleep,you practically don't sleep or you take sleeping pills
A380 economy is as good as it gets , generous legroom , seats are comfy and a decent entertainment system. Thats my experience on Qantas and Emirates 16 hour flights
We need straight flights from Miami to India or at least China/Japan/Australia/somewhere in East Asia. This is the third most populated state in the USA and there's still only just 3 flights that fly directly from Miami/Ft. Lauderdale to Asia. Funny.
The Holy Emerald the thing with USA-India flights is that since the Middle East airports are so well connected to the bulk of Indian airports that it’s more practical to fly via any middle Eastern airline than India-USA (as only delhi and Mumbai makes sense for any flight to come from USA)
ZK-APA true but there are already many flights directly from the US to India: San Francisco, New York (including EWR), Chicago, DC, etc. So makes sense to add a direct flight to another city or 2- one in Florida or Texas would be nice
india has a much lower demand compared to other asian countries for example singapore or china.
I always enjoy watching videos on this channel. Looking forward to more videos. Keep up the good work
*B747 and A380 has left the chat*
Ouch
The 747... I heart the 747 so much
TOO SOON
B747 left a long time ago
Have*
Plane related wendover is what keeps me alive
This video has genuinely educated me. Thank you. I didn't realize that it is cheaper, fuel wise, to stop along the route beyond a certain distance.
I can just sense the excitement in Wendover whenever he flies anywhere. I can imagine he'll know more than most!
*_Concorde wants to know your location_*
_Bob McCoy probably not as many people didn’t even want to cram themselves into that tin can on regular bases for a 3 hour flight let alone 9-10 hours
Concorde wanted to know your location
Peter Zwegert that was for price reasons. Only the rich could afford to.
Lisa Guerrero would confront that concorde
SaltySteve no it wasn’t there was simply no demand for this type of plane, business travelers prefer to simply spend a night on the plane in much more luxury than to commute more than 6 hours a day in tin can.
*The only good Wendover Production Videos are the ones with planes in them* - Abraham Lincoln
I really appreciate the work done on this video !
Every Wendover video about planes makes me want to hop on the next flight out of Los Angeles and see the world.
My flight instructor now flies for FedEx. He said people are far more concerned with getting their package to arrive on time rather than their mother in law to arrive on time
I mean.... He does have a point
finally another planes video
Robert go to half as interesting
The made a couple recently
A very engrossing clip. Worth a sub on this alone. Thank you for posting!
Well put together video. Was very impressed by the research put forth into this video.
Yay airplane productions is back.
Anything nonstop is just a reduction is crap that can go wrong. A lot less chance of lost luggage, delays to make you miss your connecting flight, having to haul your butt through another airport, extra tickets. Just so many reasons to want to avoid hassles.
Steve P exactly
Plus the most dangerous part of flying is takeoff and then landing. Cruising is pretty safe.
First class information delivered in an articulate and interesting narrative that is easy to comprehend.
Love the aviation videos! Keep them coming!
A fun fact about the Philippine Airlines' Manila to New York flight:
Originally that route was served by a 777-300ER with a fuel stop at Vancouver. With the arrival of PAL's order of A350 just this September, that route can now be a completely non-stop service.
Salamat
But it thoughr that 777 have better range than a350s
@@peesinyourass Well as the video explain the reason is economics. Having a stop over is cheaper. New fuel efficient planes make the economics of non stop flights work.
777-300ER range: 13,650 km
A350-900 range: 15,000 km
MNL to JFK: 13,673 km
and expect many Filipinos to maximize their baggage allowance with "pasalubong."
Bravo Philippine Airlines.
Phew I was getting worried we haven’t had a plane vid in 2 months
I know eh...
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Super informative video! And what a voice over, not a single blink. Interesting to know some behind the scene things about fuel consumption and load factors on these routes.
ME: I’ve finally finished planning the itineraries for my 2020 flights.
Virus: I’m about to end this man’s vacation.
Just in case you didn't know.
QANTAS Is Queensland And Northern Territory Air Service.
Thanks. I always wondered what the name meant.
Wow! I will sleep better tonight!
This is crazy because I’m flying from Perth to London literally tomorrow.
Tell us how it was.
Yes, please.
I flew to Perth from London, and hated the flight we upgraded on the way home and it was still horrible
@@matthewsmith8727 Not enough sheilas on board eh Matt?
Lian Peled rude staff horrible food just an all round miserable flight
20 hours in coach? JUST SHOOT ME.
stimulating and insightful as always.
Just imagine having to sit in economy class in one of these 20 hour flights. This will definitely cause many health risks for passengers and crew members.
What about 14 hour flights like from Sydney to dubai
Redline600 every bloody flight out of Australia is like 14 hours.
Well Akhil, there are two sets of crew in those flights, as well as a dedicated crew compartment, where they can lay down for a few hours between shifts, so I'm not worrying about them, particularly because they are for the most part young and fit. However passengers are a different story, and that is the point I agree with you. I would be reluctant to let board aging passengers to such a long flight, particularly on economy. The chance to develop potentially lethal or blood-clot induced heart attack, is way too high. I half-joked on another venue, that if I were an airline, I would insist on passengers passing a mandatory medical check-up over a certain age, before I'd let those on board.
jessica87au - cry me a river; I live in New Zealand!! :p
@@asteve4914 so how long is your flight out of Australia
*Wonderful for travel, if we can afford.*
Would be fun, if the budget flights would include a 1 day stop-over with a nice bed, instead of flying for 16-30 hours without sleep. Some very smart Chinese airlines do that for very long flights with a stopover in China. Let's see if the others will do it too.
The midway point on the great circle between Sydney and London is Chongqing. There's no reason why they couldn't have a few hundred cheap rooms or sleeping pods to allow the cattle to rest between the two 10 or so hour flights.
@@ashleymalamute Why not spend an extra $100 if they offer you a couple of meals and a tour on a one night stopover? I often wish I could spend a day or so in the countries I pass through. A night in Beijing, the Great Wall and Forbidden City would be a great 24 hour stopover.
yeah they do, but I've just "done that", but checked out 5min later, because I'd rather sleep at the airport than that hotel with only chinese speaking staff and absolutely no plan when they would shuttle you back to the airport or if there's be even one at the time you need. Wasted 3h of my Shanghai overlay, never again.
That would be nice 😊
Doesn't sound like a budget flight.
Can you give those 20hr flights a Doug score?
For Daily, they'd get a 2 out of 10.
appearance is a 10/10
Wow the way you narrate this video is truly incredible! So easy to digest
Non-stop from US to North Korea would be the ultimate achievement. :)
One way ticket?
Love the aviation related videos 🅱️endover!
Incredible as ever! thank you
Great video! thank you for the information±
I love Wendover Productions. Your videos are so neatly shown, and easy to visualise. Great sources of information for aero-engineers.
Recently did a trip from Sydney to Istanbul, uncomfortable, but incredible feats of technology
I think these long flights are relatively common for Australians these days. Pop a sleeping tablet and have a sleep, 20 hours feels like a deep 4 hour sleep :)
There is no non-stop flight between Australie and Turkey yet so it doesnt count.
@@buraksimsek7264 ewa
@@buraksimsek7264 he didn't say that he flew straight to Istanbul
@@vilitspiipol I know he didnt, but what he says is random as there is no such flight on that route.
This is what I needed to watch, thanks.
yo, your videos are always dope like this but i just wanna mention how cool the graphics are, with the foot notes, the lines, the rotating globe... I don't know if it's difficult to do or if it's just two clicks but it looks amazing. And the transition with the 3 noses of budget airlines planes was really cool.
I live in Aus and I used Cathay for the last 3 trips to EU. Premium economy, which isn't cheap, but still much less than Qantas (which admittedly many say is one of the best PE available) and even Singapore's versions.
I did BA once, and never again. They were dreadful.
Unless you're going to London, Qantas really isn't the best option IMO. Even if you are, they are significantly more expensive unless you can get a special rate booking a year or more in advance.
As for the Perth direct flight, for the vast majority of Aussies Perth itself is 5+ hours to reach, more once you add travel to the airport etc. No reason to do that flight from the East coast, and I'm surprised to see the load rate is as high as you said.
Interesting stuff.
I am flying from London Gatwick to Auckland in August, so excited!
Doha to Auckland sounds like a killer though as that's what I'm going on.
BA > Doha - Qatar Airways > Auckland
Grammar error in the title. "20 Hour-Long Flights" implies there are 20 flights that are each 1 hour long. "20-hour long flights" is what it should say.
Or 20-Hour-Long Flights?
Intentionally Left Blank, You are correct.
I'd be interested in a Wendover video about that topic also.
@@markusnl I think '20-hour-long flights' is ambiguous
who cares about gramar.
your videos are awesome keep up the good work.
Great video, very informative
You’ve heard of Sydney to London now get ready for...
Auckland to London!
A& W They should fly it with a 172
Oh and also Perth to Toronto
*I expected this*
An A350 or a B787
that's a long way😂
At this point (20 hours), I think we're running into the limits of human endurance. The machines can do it, but our bodies hurt.
*The rise of luxury passenger planes*
We're close to an era where you could cross the globe under a full day period but people still complaining. Our grandfathers were happy enough not dying in a world war or expecting to avoid a nuclear war back then...
@@rafaelrp07 And they were approaching an age where things could be electrically powered, and they didn't have to break their backs working on a farm. Your point?
20 hours of hell. Never on United. I might rather die than spend 20 hours in United Economy class.
United Economy is literal garbage, I was using a European airline on an 8 hour flight but the new 787 was not yet in use and I believed several aircraft were being refitted so the flight was operated by United. Imagine a domestic flight on United economy and then imagine flying to Europe. While sitting on the plane you are more concerned about whether your legs will have to be amputated upon landing rather than how uncomfortable or crowded it is. The thin prop plane I flew on afterwards on a 40 minute flight was like Emirate airlines compared to the United flight.
@@volka2199 Absolutely true. We already know that United flying on LAX to SIN route is half empty. Thats because economy class on ultra long haul flight is more expensive. That reason why United is rather to operate on SFO to SIN route because less payload restriction.
just take some of the money you saved on economy class and get hammered or buy a few xanax. I'll sleep through an economy flight if it means saving a few hundred bucks.
Oh man bad memories. I bought flights from Melbourne - Sydney - San Francisco - Washington DC on United because they were a few hundred AUD cheaper than Qantas. Big mistake. Shitty old 747 from MEL-SYD had mechanical issues. So we waited. Then got to Sydney. Boarded. Let's go! Nope, mechanical issues. We sat on the tarmac for hours, with no engines running, getting ever hotter (it was summer) so by the time we departed 7 hours late, the whole plane smelt of body odour. Then it was the bad food, lack of personal entertainment (yes, in 2006, they STILL were using a projector and shared screen for movies). And of course by the time I got to SF the connections were blown. I think I arrived at Washington around 1 in the morning.
UNITED. NEVER. AGAIN.
7:46 I’m glad you said Kiwi not New Zealandian
Omg 21hours flight time....i think I've just suffered a panic attack 😂
We’re super happy about this development here in Chile. It will always take us forever to get anywhere, so being able to go to Dubai or London in one flight instead of two or three as it used to be is GREAT. I hope we get similar flights to other Asian hubs soon (Narita or HK!). I’ve been flying 12+ hours flights since a teenager so going up to 20 is not much
Australia: dangerous as hell wildlife and takes 21 hours to go anywhere else
Yep, kangaroos in the back yard and crocodiles in the streets. But the real killer in Oz is drop-bears
Nothing more dangerous than Humans.
not really i fly China Southern melbourne to Guangzhou every year and its only 9.30 hours
Your videos are so engaging, i use them to fall asleep.. while listening to them i lose focus about anything else, hence i fall asleep easily.
Excellent and accurate presentation!
I think the main reasons why very long non-stop flights are heavily subscribed is that with a two hour layover (typical) it's actually more exhausting because you have to sit or wander around in a terminal. And all the hassle of unboarding and reboarding. Not everyone has lounge access. If the flight basically has BC or PE only (like Singapore) that's a great option.
As an Australian, the issue with the Perth to London one shot flight, is that most travelers live on the east coast, not the west coast, and more often then not you have to either fly to Perth the night before, and fly out the next morning, or fly in in the morning, and not fly out untill that night. So untill we get straight shot's from Melbourne/Sydney it's still a bad system
QF9 starts in Melbourne, so you can board the flight in Melbourne and it's only a 3 hour transit in Perth.
Qantas also connects it's other flights from the main capitals to dovetail with the Perth departure.
The same is true coming home on Qf10
I was thinking the same. Why would Australians choose to do one layover with 4hr and 18hr flight and just not do the layover in Doha or Dubai and make the two flights almost even 10-11hr flights
@eraserhead Exactly. Connecting flights to Sydney are inefficient. It's almost as if these people think they're the center of the world.
Love this channel ✈️♥️
One pandemic and one invasion later, would be interesting with an update.
I won't take a 20 hour flight unless the plane is a Toyota Corolla!
drdanger you might want to think again, sedans don’t have any space to walk, imagine 20h sitting.
Wrong channel bro
Every airplanes video on this channel conveniently avoid the environmental issues.
@@jackbauer5386 Sure, let's stop people from travelling
@@l30S3UX We don't have to stop people from travelling. We can just wait for this planet to become too fucked up for humans to live on. But at least we got to to do London to Australia in 20 hours, worth it.
Meanwhile it still costs $650+ to take a trip from Ontario to Alberta...
Swoop airlines is getting cheap if you can travel to Hamilton.
@@MarijuanaCanada swoop will only be cheap until it chokes out flair. Then same ol.
I usually fly one of these two, but they're only cheap sometimes and typically have the worst flight schedules, unfortunately.
It's often cheaper to go to a Mexican or Cuban all inclusive for a week.
@@OnnSight over - regulated and oligopoly, more likely.
Really!; flying a bush plane or a BEAVER???.
Living in HK for so long, long haul flights were all I knew, from Kai Tak to Chek Lap Kok, it was all Cathay's L-1011's or 777s. The first regional flight I took was when I was going to a small town in the US, and I loved those Biscoffs Delta served on their E-140s.
Fantastic video!
The moment he said " It uses fuel to carry fuel"
*Mind blown*
Here’s the plane video . We knew it was comin
I will legiterally watch these plane videos over and over again
3:24 That's very interesting. Thanks, you taught me something.