Kimberlite or Pudding stone?
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- čas přidán 24. 03. 2021
- I spent a couple of hours today pulling all my landscape rocks up and power washing them all for identification.. After spending the last few days learning all about Kimberlites, I set out on a mission to see if I can identify one. Of course it could be seeing what im looking for, I think I found some kimbwrlite!
I find myself looking at different rocks and picking them up and polishing them. My family thinks my cheese slid off the cracker so to speak. So I find your video very interesting and good to see someone else infected with the same symptoms i have.
Good to know I'm not the only one!
My friend I thank you for helping me to realize that I’m not a madman. I went through the same strange obsession over the past couple of years and it led me to a whole new world.
I am not a geologist by degree but I agree with other comments that the one looked like a bone of sorts, one looked like it could’ve been jade, and the green stone did look like kimberlite which I too have stumbled upon here in CO.
Mostly though the main lesson I’ve taken from my obsession is how many artifacts are out there. Now I don’t know if they are artifacts because some amazing ancient civilization made them or if the Great Spirit created them but they have a story and something tells me you have a calling to help humanity through something big. Trust yourself and follow your heart🤟
The 2nd large weirdly shaped rock you showed looks to me a little like a whale vertebra. In Victoria/Vancouver BC I find huge ones in the woods every few years and the ones that I could carry I brought home for my porch.
I am no expert but when I first saw this stone I thought, " this looks like a bone of some sort. I think u may be spot on!
The veins of crystals you see are called dikes. Dikes form when silica-rich motlen rock flows through cracks/fractures in another type of stone, producing veins of crystalline rock. If crystals are very large and visible (phaneritic), this means the liquid magma cooled very slowly because it was deep under the earth where it stayed hot. If you see small crystals, the magma cooled very fast above the earth's surface (aphanetic). The pattern of rock you see if from weathering, where motion and chemical weathering eroded the metamorphic rock much faster than it did the quartz crystals, causing them to stick out. If you live in Michigan, those rocks were probably deposited there about 20-30 thousand years ago as they fell out of the melting glaciers. They look like rock that is typical of the Canadian shield, pushed south by glaciers and glacial flow.
That's awesome, nice to see others that are all in and wanna know what they ( rocks / crystals) ha , keep it up and hope that you found your answers ...and kimberlite can be white too I guess, looking myself, how I found this video , so thank you. I recently did a yard dig, found some really neat stuff too.
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Sorry. That is a classic jasper quartzite Puddingstone from the Lorrain formation, Huronian Supergroup. Yes, good ones often do contain that many clasts - not formed by lava - sedimentary to metamorphic. Not diamond. Not Kimberlite. The other greenish one, sure could be kimberlite.
That 2nd one looks like granite(or other similar looking intrusive igneous rock) with quartz seams. It is oddly shaped as the crystaline quartz is less prone to weathering than the granite. Highly doubtful that it is a fossil, but weirder things have happened. The first rock you showed looks like it has a quartz seam running thru the middle, the 2nd one has quartzes that have been detached on the "outside" from the host rock
The pudding stone is sedimentary not igneous. Look up congomerates and breccias. The individual stones in the matrix might be igneous, but the whole rock is sedimentary. The greenish one nearby looks similar to another type of sedimentary rock that is found out here on the west coast. I don't know enough about kimberlites to speak to that idea, but you live in an area that was covered by glaciers and you probably have all sorts of stones not native to your area. Identifying rocks is difficult generally as each rock is made up of various minerals and you need to identify each mineral in the specimen and where it is from to get an exact definition. You can get kinda close visually, but lab tests are required for definitive id.
Dude that one with the Quartz is full of gold! you can see it easily on the big tv. You commented on how heavy it was!!!
5:01 ? The one with little nugget looking things?
There is a textbook from the U of M that tells everything about Mich geology. It is called "Geology of Michigan", by Dorr and Eschman. A used copy isn't that much money. I have studied it for years. I think that you would enjoy the knowledge it brings. Your local library probably has copies available also.
Moved to NE Michigan recently. Here, you can legally collect up to 25 pounds of rocks per year from state parks. We have two state park rockhounding expeditions planned for this year. One is Sturgeon Point (Harrisville, betw Alpena and Oscoda), which has a mile-long gravel bar jutting out into Lake Huron that's chock full of fossils. The other is Rockport (north of Alpena), which features a mountain of quarry tailings, mostly fossils including Petoskeys, trilobites, and horn corals, many of which are free from their matrices. We'll be staying late to flash for Yooperlites 👍
Very interesting,wish l get more education on this.
I agree that they do look like kimberlites, however to classify a rock as a kimberlite is a lot more difficult than one would think, geologists take several classes devoted just to kimberlites, and without access to proper testing equipment, it is not possible to positvely id a kimberlite... a geologist told me that... and they are still learning a lot about them, 30 years ago no one even thought they existed outside of africa, but like your video thanks
The green rock is a good candidate for a kimberlite. The puddingstone is a puddingstone.
That's big Kimberlite.
Did you ever figure out anything or still needs some tips? Your rocks definitely have some very interesting inclusions.
I might recommend getting a diamond tester and a very good quality UV light to test your specimens.
It seems the grey rock is one big kimberlite specimen.
I’ve been reading up on kimberlites and maar - diatremes and I have ran into the same issues identifying what I’m finding. I have found similar rocks to the lighter one you have and I can’t really tell if it’s just a hunk of old concrete or volcanic breccia. I need the fancy equipment that scientists use to run chemical and isotopic analysis! 😂
8:00 some Canadian Kimberlite does look like that, the tone of the host rock is right.
If its been deposited by a glacier from Canada, then you could be right.
With the Glacier paths, if you map from your region to where the glaciers came from. You can find placer deposits of gems and mineral. And with canada being such a large source of diamonds.
Its not unheard of.
Lamprophyre, Lamproite, and kimberlites can all host diamonds btw. I read a great little article post about it.
Harald G. Dill
Leibniz Universität Hannover
Dear colleagues,
another answer from the point of view of an economic geologist:
1. Lamproite-group rocks are dark-colored magmatic rocks enriched in K and Mg and hypabyssal or effusive in origin. Lamproites are peralkaline ultrapotassic Mg-enriched magmatic rocks with all hallmarks of ultrabasic rocks such as elevated Cr and Ni contents ( Mitchell 1991). They may contain leucite, phlogopite, and glass (fizroyite), plogopite, diopside, leucite (wyomingite) or phenocrysts of diopside and phlogopite in a fine-grained glassy matrix which chemically can be approximated to the composition of leucite (madupite). They may also contain amphibole, olivine, sanidine, spinel, apatite and nepheline together with some wadeite and priderite.
2. Kimberlite-group rocks are close to porphyritic alkaline peridotites. They contain phenocrysts of olivine which frequently serpentinized, phlogopite converted into chlorite, geikelite (= "Mg ilmenite"), and. chromian pyrope-enriched garnet. They float in a fine-grained matrix of calcite, olivine, and phlogopite (2 nd gen.). Accessory minerals are ilmenite, magnetite, spinel, monticellite, apatite and perovskite. Chrome diopside mineralization in kimberlites is an important guide to diamond deposits. Kimberlite is by definition a K-enriched ultramafic rock which derived from a depth of more than 150 km below surface (Clement and Skinner 1985, Kirkley et al. 1991). Moving upwards, the hypabyssal intrusions grade into diatreme breccias and pyroclastic rocks
3. Lamprophyre-group magmatic rocks are dark-colored like the afore-mentioned subcrustal rocks abundant in biotite, hornblende, pyroxene, present as phenocrysts in a fine-grained matrix of K and Na/Ca feldspar and/ or feldspathoids. According to the abundance of these minerals mentioned above they are subdivided into minette, kersantite, spessartite, camptonite, monchiquite, fourchite and alnoite.
No 1 - rocks are host of diamonds predominantly in Western Australia.
No-2- rocks are host of diamonds predominantly in Tanzania, Botswana, Angola, DR Congo, South Africa, Russia, Lesotho, Canada, Zimbabwe, Greenland, Gabon (metakimberlites)
No -3 - rocks gave besides diamonds (Michipicoten and Abitibi greenstone belts) also host to sapphire in Yogo Gulch, Montana, USA. It takes an outstanding position as it is bound to lamprophyre dykes classified as ouachitite ,a biotite monchiquite devoid of olivine with a glassy or analcime-bearing groundmass.
Best regards
Harald G.Dill
the pudding stone looks to be a conglomerate.. all the stones in there are rounded which screams deposited from a river source
Very interesting. I just got back from Northern Michigan, Gaylord area. I found a bunch of rocks I suspect are kimberlite and also 6 good size "pudding stones" Hmm. I already have some rocks in acid some smashed with a sledge and I have the loose material under the microscope at this very moment. Just an FYI, Diamond has 4 sides and quarts crystal has 6 sides.
What do you mean? Pretty sure a diamond would just look like a chunk of clearish transparent mineral.. lol
@@KGB.83 Wow pfft lol, not under a microscope. Thats what I mean. So you think diamond looks like a chunk of clearish transparent mineral? You dont know much about crystallin structure do you. Pretty sure you do not know anything about diamond. Where have you ever seen a chunk of diamond? Minerals have structure to them with shapes that have sides and raw uncut diamond has 4 sides. Duuurrr....
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Hey I wish I could pm you. Watching this video. I think its the first big rock, the first one with crystals, you look at there's a green looking one behind it. That really looks like it could be jade. That would be an awesome chunk if it is.
Puddingstones are formed when rhyolitic type rocks get crushed and quarts type minerals fill in between the smashed rock. Somehow the crystalization of the filler between the rocks squeezes them apart. Otherwise the crushed rocks would still be close together. The green rock doesn't look like crushed rocks filled with quartz. It looks like a kimberlite chunk. Did you really find that in Montcalm county? It must have hitched a ride on a glacier from Ontario.
5:42 the luster on that crystal is intriguing. Depending on its hardness ot could be a hit. Maybe not a diamond. But it looked clean
I found a large pudding stone in a farmers. Field MIDLAND MICHIGAN…and I have one just like the pinkish beige with smaller stone in it burgundy stones. Kimberlite
Have you not tried a diamond selector to test as they sit? I'd start there. Mohs hardness scale.
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Big Kimberli....nice In my video I also show Kimberly stones and the crystals attached to the stones are so large that I wonder if this is a diamond or an ordinary crystal
Yeah I've found plenty of the light colored with bright reds and different colors in them. I new it had to be some kind of gems with all the obsidian around.
I have one now about 4×5 inch cluster of it.. thousands of different rocks/crystals colors throughout it. But how to extract them??
hey bud, what i know about kimberlites is that they are filled with different raw tiny stones within the rocks and they are visible but yes at 6:30 are kimberlites👍👍
I too think the large oddly shaped rock looks like a vertebrae . Dinosaur part of somekind perhaps
Omg, this isn't mud fossil University..lol
Just place the kimberlite rocks with diamonds in lemon juice for a 3-5 days then just with a glove on your hand crush it to remove the diamonds from it's soften platinum ore settlement or just shake the container to have it fall apart to separate the diamonds
What websites did you find info on kimberlites? A lot of rock information websites are inaccurate on purpose!! Rock shops are same way! Geology is a government well kept hush hush thing. I have studied rocks and minerals my whole life since I could read and comprehend... I’ve collected TONS ... I started noticing faults in things being answered as the years went on. I took 8 months off geology and because I have an old felony ... I was moved to a different college class... I had amazing grades... two separate teachings... lucky for me I have old soul knowledge. Books prior to 1995 are way more accurate!! Try your studies there! Best of wishes and blessings!! Oh and you are on the correct path on your studies
I agree that geology is a very watered down science. The problem is that all collegiate sciences are told what to teach and given funding on what to teach. The funding has been controlled at the highest levels by the catholic church! So the Church has actually been able to BAN colleges from teaching certain things. In geology, this came up right here in Michigan in 2007. Richard Firestone, a Geologist, wrote a paper and submitted it to a geological journal. The subject of his paper was that Michigan was ground zero for a massive asteroid impact at the end of the younger drias period. This impact is likely what caused the creation of the great lakes, as well as the great flood and the extionction of many mega fauna like wholly mammoths, great sloths, sabre tooth tigers etc. When the paper first came out in 2007, the catholic church issued a "requiem" order. Which is to say that they officially said "that did not happen because we said so".. That was actually why I got so into rocks in 2021.. I also found this czcams.com/video/z7oWRB16q5o/video.html
Geology is hushed up by the government??? Ahahahahahahaha, good one. Paranoid lunacy.
For e skins are stolen, under the guise of medicine, and geology won’t be hushed up, by the sla ve masters?, sure thing so ap ba r.
If it has jasper its suposed to be pudding stone. Have you noticed lately ,everyone has been interested in stones.weird. i have ten to twenty hobbies. I dont have room time for pudding collection, yet i am drawn to 9ne spot that i find pudding stones by the thousands. Im going to have to get a dolly.. good hunting fellas. Im gonna be known as the pudding-stoner.... the one with red is a conglomorite which is a puding stone due to the jasper. Kimberlites are for.ed inside conglomerite. I believe. Not certain
Wouldn't these be more likely sedimentary rocks, being they are not homogenous throughout as most igneous rock would be?
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Hello, where do you live in Michigan and how much do you want in the stone price please
And I'm sure ya doing out by now, but try and scratch conundrum rock( ruby/saffire grow in) it's really only thing that will, and is one step down in hardness then diamond. /kimberlite 😎
I have a rock like that. but its use i don't know
You can find diamonds and gold in pudding
stones that's a pudding stone
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Triangle is a red flag for diamonds is my understanding....
Looks like a joint bone
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Puddingstone always has red (jasper) inclusions.
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Pudding stones in Africa are most common .
Thar second one looks like bone, whale or simething
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Are you sure those aren't petrified bones
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A well rounded rock of Kimberlite can tell if you have balanced information of diamonds. I asked my father baking diamonds , you got to have knowledge mathematics especially diamonds intend to be short , or squat but quartz intend to be long.
The first ones look.like bone.
My understanding of "Pudding stones" is that they all have a white to brown silicate matrix. Some claim only the clearly whites are true "Pudding stones." I'm not an expert so I generally attempt to follow those who make that claim. What I've seen in general thus far is organized confusion on the subject. But again there's the stong bent toward the opinion that true Kimberlites are very rare in Michigan. Quoting: "More than 20 kimberlites have been discovered since 1971, and these post- Ordovician intrusions follow a general northwest trend through Iron, Dickinson, and Menominee Counties from Crystal Falls to Hermansville. Many kimberlites in Northern Michigan contain diamonds, while some appear to be barren." End of quote. My point I guess is, stones like yours are very common in Michigan and most people call them "Pudding stones."
Almost every word is incorrect... do more research.
Jared why don"t you take a weekend trip to Lake Ellen in (da UP). It's just a few miles north of Channing MI. There is a Kimberlite pipe up there that was discovered about 1980. It contains no diamonds but you can learn a lot about kimberlites there. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Ellen_Kimberlite I wrote the article for Wikipedia.