Buying Skateboard Parts: What to Save On and What to Spend On
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Here's what you could save money on, and what you should invest in for skateboard parts!
Sorry for the audio noise, I forgot to denoise the audio before uploading.
0:00 Intro
0:43 Save on: Bearings
2:49 Save on: Hardware (nuts and bolts)
3:35 Save on: Griptape
4:55 Save on: Deck
6:49 Spend on: Trucks
10:17 Spend on: Wheels
13:58 Non-essentials
14:57 Conclusion
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Love your videos and knowledge. I've never been into graphics and always sand down & spray paint my decks a solid color.
This was a great refresher. Thanks for putting this out there.
great video!! i've been struggling about how i should budget money in this hobby and this video was really informative and had a great vibe :)
Love your videos dude. Keep em coming.
nice video. i always enjoy the nuances of skateboard parts and building a board. if you like your board, you’ll be more motivated to use it 😭😭
underrated skate channel, glad i discovered ya!
really good video man. i love your content!
Glad you mentioned Mini Logo. It's basically just Powell Popsicle decks under a different name. Skate One has them on sale now, 2 for $50. I like Mini Logo bearings also. Though I've only used those and a set of Independents. They roll easily enough and I haven't had any problems with them. So, I haven't felt the need to buy anything else. I experiment with a lot of different types of wheels. So, it is nice to be able to buy bearings cheaply for each set of wheels. If you are looking to save money, and you can wait, wait and buy what you need around holidays. The online skate shops usually have 20% off sales. SoCal Skateshop had a 20% off sale for MLK day. Not sure why, but, I noticed that they didn't charge me sales tax either. I've tried Mini Logo trucks and wheels as well. I like there AWOL 80A wheels a lot. They don't slide, but, they are a great cruiser wheel. Very fast and very smooth on rough pavement. Mini Logo A Cuts in 90, 95, and 101A are passable, but, not nearly as good as something like Powell Dragons. I bought a lot of ML wheels when I started out, but, IMHO, like you said in the video, it's worth spending the extra money. ML wear down quicker and cone out. Mini Logo trucks aren't bad either. Very cheap. Maybe even half as much as a lot of other trucks. Personally, I prefer Independent though because I like turny trucks. They turn a lot better than Thunder or Mini Logo. Like you said in the video, get a good set of trucks to begin with. Otherwise, you are just wasting your time. You will end up getting a better pair sooner or later. May as well not mess around with cheap ones. Quality-wise, I don't really see anything wrong with Mini Logo though. I just prefer Indy turn. If you skate bigger wheels, you will likely need a riser with Mini Logo trucks. They are very low. I think something like 48mm, versus 55mm for Indy standards. They are lower than Thunder also, which are pretty low also.
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Mini Logo is a heavy, low performing overpriced deck. Moose makes blanks for like 25 that are as light as they come and flick like no tomorrow.
@@DanZhukovin I just looked up Moose. Not carried at any of the shops I use. TCM Skateboards has them for $33.95, normally $36. Skate One has Mini Logo decks on sale, 2 for $50, normally $34.95 each. Mini Logo are quality decks, from a company (Powell) that has been around since the 70s. I would be surprised if Moose even makes their own decks.
@@idmhead0160
Maybe you can ask them to order it?
Best decks, no order:
1. Moose blanks (BK175D-NAT)
2. Bamboo blank or graphic
3. Almost Uberlight
4. Santa Cruz VX
5. Powell Peralta Flight
6. Real Oval (These are full maple but for some reason they last super long, are as light as they come at 2.17 lbs, etc. they just shred)
7. Element section
8. Girl
9. Enjoi
Hopefully the Mini Logos are heavier because they have more plies, meaning you can slam into a boardslide but even then, bamboo boards are better for that, and are lighter at 3.0 lbs.
Mini Logos are past 2.5 lbs which is a limitation
I think the distance in management is the reason why Powell boards are very good, but Mini Logo doesn't have top tier specs. Mini Logo is not directly managed so dont' think you're getting Powell quality with them.
In fact, go with a Powell Peralta flight deck if you want to buy a board you never need to replace, and are okay with a wider board. those boards have epoxy and fiberglass in them which makes them stupidly strong, light and poppy. I think they are around 2.3 lbs too which is amazing.
@@DanZhukovin I have Powell and Mini Logo decks and can't tell the difference. As far as I know, and I think what Skate One claims is that they use the same wood. They are made in China though, using Powell's standard equipment/presses. Some Powell decks are made in China as well. And the shaped old school decks are made in Mexico. Generally speaking, I think Flight may be the only ones made in the US at this point. I've never seen Powell claim that Flight decks are lighter than 7 ply maple, only stronger. I have no idea what the boards weigh. They don't include that information in their specs, and I never weighed them. I started off on Mini Logo, but, now I skate 8.75 decks and Mini Logo only go up to 8.5. I'm mainly 7 ply Powell or Flight at this point.
great video thorne
regarding full metal bearings: I have good experiences with the SKF ones. true, you can't open them, but thats actually a good thing in that instance.
I have them on my rain setup and for once because they are closed they do not collect water and mud so quickly and secondly because you cannot relubricate them, they have a thic greese inside them, which does last a lot longer than other bearings lubricant.
I wouldnt recommend them for everything, because the heavy greese makes them relatively slow for a long time, but because of that the bearings last very long even when waterloged, thats my experience.
on my not rain setups, I have mini logo bearings and I recommend them, they are like bones reds but cheaper.
as for trucks I agree, get a really good pair, they will last a long time.
wheels are super important and I enjoy the mini logo A cut 101 alot; they are a bit softer than most hard wheels, but still hard, they perform well, last long and are cheap.
if you are an absolute beginner, depending on your access to smooth skateparks I'd suggest getting some mini logo 95 or 90A because they allow you to ride anywhere easily and as a beginner riding around is the most important skill to train and these wheels are not so soft that they wouldnt perform in the skatepark.
not ideal for slides and big gaps, but you arent doing those anyway for the foreseeable future ...
and if you got the money and are a bit more experienced, I think the powell dragon formula are really good for riding pretty much anywhere without issue.
nice vid! thank you. shout-out mini logo bearings, they power the fastest board in my quiver!
I'd spend a little bit more on bearings, Bones Big Balls are very cost effective IMO
Risers are not only for wheel bite. It also changes the pop and if you use soft risers it can help prevent cracks and also dampen road vibrations if you skate Street more than park.
I'm having a tough time finding soft risers. I bought Ace and Madness brand ones because they were advertised as "soft rubber". But they're like flexible bendy plastic. I was hoping they'd be like proper rubber, kind of like bicycle tire rubber. You know any good ones?
@@iosoi3145 Independent shock pads might be what you're looking for
@iosoi3145 Mini-Logo, Bones, and H Block have really soft rubber shockpads. I have H Blocks on my Zero board. H Block shockpads are probably the cheapest ones.
Some manufacturers like skate shred make Swiss bearings for 12 dollars and is advertised as being on par with bones Swiss. Another place to get bearings for cheap is Zumiez as not many go for the skate stuff that is mostly on sale. Also look into getting goods like rolls of grip for cheap as I got a roll of Roam grip for 60 bucks from TGM skateboards that was considered “damaged” (only small frays on the top of the roll from packaging). Decks are a hit or miss depending on the manufacturer but mini logo is a good choice. Skateshred has shaped boards too. Wheels for me used to be bones but I’ve flatspotted a brand new pair of SPFs the same day I got them and switched to Dogtown and OJ/Slimeball formulas as they are more grippier and slide good.
I always road spitfire or Santa Cruz slimeballs. I did have a pair of bones in the 90s as a kid but I dont remember thinking they road any better than the cheap wheels I got with my board, they just look much cooler.
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Hi, Thorne!
Great advices, high qualité video, keep dit!!
Could you tell me if OJ super juice are OK for emergency break with slides?
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I'm currently riding OJ superjuice and I'd say that if you intend to go down large hills power sliding wouldn't be an option. They'd most likely flatspot or grip the ground.
That said, I think the superjuice are a fantastic wheel if you want to roll through all kinds of terrain.
Rush abec 7 bearings are the best for $10. they are titanium coated and have rubber shields on both sides.
i let these play without watching them just to support u
I would recommend buying stuff second hand. You can get great prices that way!
i buy death skateboards they're £40 come with really cool designs and they perform well especially for the price point they've also supported my local skate shop and skate scene for a very long time which makes me love them more i ride indi stage 11 standards and spitfire wheels and my deck performs the way i want it to and because of the tuning on the indipendents it makes cruising with the more experienced skaters easier because i can take corners faster and the spitfire wheels carry my speed a lot better when we're moving from spot to spot
It's all about engineering specs like hollow vs. solid kingpin, wheel durometer, etc. half the cost of a board is just the brand. Brands matter little to none as there are so many clones nowadays.
The best skateboard is like no more than 150 bucks and will outperform the most expensive, brand-intensive one...
@Thorne Benatar You get some things wrong about brands and specs.
Optimal setup:
7.75 moose blank - 25 bucks. These are cheaper and much more high performing than Mini Logo. Mini Logo doesn't make performance tier products. Another option is a Bamboo blank, which is about 2.5 lbs so the flick performance is still there.
Other options:
Cirus Pro Carbon, Real Oval, Girl w/ steep tail.
You want medium concave to be less limited. Steep, short tail is better. Narrower, shorter decks create less limitations as they are lighter.
Bronson speed co G2 - Better quality than Reds due to ceramic coating, but just two dollars more at 18 bucks. They require little to no push to do tricks as they are like plastic ice lol.
Non-abrasive griptape: 10 USD - Essential as it grips harder, lasts longer and doesn't wear down shoes
Tensor Mag 5.0's - The LIGHTEST truck. No less strong than an Indy Standard due to magnesium. 75 bucks. Getting stiffer custom 101a bushings will give you better flick, better landings and more control. You can also just kick-turn instead of lean to turn anyway.
Wheels - Just get 43-45mm 101a wheels for 30 bucks. They flick better and give better balance. Again, less weight = Less limitations on what tricks you can do. Spend more time skating because you're not getting sore legs from flicking and pushing some stupid 9-ply setup.
OH and the shoes, finally. You want thick shoes with gum cup soles. Colored soles have less grip, and vulcanized soles wear out faster. You can even try non-slip shoes shaped like skate shoes.
Ankle support should pad your ankles, but not prevent you from quickly bending them for, again, less limitations.
You also want a breathable helmet with lots of holes, and pads. Because falling down hurts. Getting injured sucks, reduces your ability and can put you out of skating. You can also die or end up disabled lol.
Get a set of Bones 97X and review them for us thanks!!!!
gotta have mob black grip! no exception! just draw on it!
good bearings will last for years if you clean them regularly. bones super reds last alot longer than the reds if you dont want to drop the cash on some swiss. bronson g3s last and work as well as bones swiss at half the cost.
I've been riding a set of Bones Swiss for 22 years. Clean them once a year.
solid advice for the folks out there. bones big balls bearings or spitfire cheap shots are great value bearings for those who need the speed
Core trucks from TGM SKATEBOARDS only 26$ a set I just changed the bushings
OJ wheels, surprised at some of the best wheels ive ridden. i use to be die hard spitfire!
any specific OJs you've enjoyed and/or recommend? I've always been a spitfire guy. Was skating them and the the F1's came out. Was skating those, and have only ever ridden F4s since those came out. I'm down to try stuff out!
@@bryanflo4500 I ride large, straight-cut wheels.
The Team Riders are my favorite. 2 sizes, 2 durometers.
The Hardline and Nomads are pretty good as well.
oj wheels, spitfire, SML, Bones wheels are probably the only wheels ill buy
I think Snot Wheels Co. makes some nice wheels. The colors are pretty dope aswell
TGM SKATEBOARDS has awesome prices dime bag hardware like 3 or 4 bucks free grip with decks there blanks are around 30 bucks
Moose blanks are awesome.
That's what they sell, not their own brand decks.
get a good used board. just buy good bearing replacements.
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this guy is talking out of his ass, he only has a simple surface understanding and spouts it online like hes a expert
g2s are not worth your money due to durability
bearings and wheels are the most underrated parts of your setup, less roll = less fun. skating just wont feel that good. it is worth it for the mileage/dollar ratio on bearings to buy 1 tier above the cheap stuff ie super reds, big balls imho quantum metallics are the best value bearings
blank decks are actually extremely overrated due to them being of lower-quality from a second rate woodshop. buying a pro deck that wont snap/crack will be cheaper in the long run anyways, stronger concave decks and bbs/dwindle made decks will be less prone to snapping
if yours just starting out, avoid blank trucks but offbrand truck "brands" from completes are fine for beginners, they are durable enough, can grind and bushings arent plastic, its not like you will be able to tell between the big brands at first anyways
the order is indy thunder venture/ace tied (depends on region)
i dont know why this guy is mentioning durability on wheels since the only cases of wheels breaking are factory fuckups (this guy is sloooowww)
bones stfs are faster then f4 even though it doesnt feel like it. also doesnt wear down as fast compared to f4s making stfs the best value wheel
risers: if you land like shit and break your deck around the bolts, risers have def prolonged my deck life, it just logically make sense (think about it! dont listen to some preacher who thinks hes a skater lol)
tldr dont take skate advice from some shaped board slappy only fag, this guy is diving headfirst off the dunning krueger curve
This guy wins the award for spouting incoherent nonsense. Spoken like someone who has truly never stepped outside on a skateboard, google flatspots and come back to us
I think you missed his whole point. He’s explaining that if you want the goods you’re going to have to spend the money. He’s just talking about cheap options if you’re on a budget but comparing them to the name brands
hahaha damnnn