EZ AUTOMATED MUSHROOM FRUITING CHAMBER, DIY Build with Links
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- čas přidán 5. 02. 2023
- An overview of my new fully automated fruiting chamber build. This simple, effective, easy to clean design is perfect for home cultivators. I explain the entire design in detail, and discuss important principles including humidity, fresh air exchange (FAE), and cleaning. All equipment used in this build are linked below.
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70 quart tote: www.lowes.com/pd/Project-Sour...
Cambro Cam Shelving Unit:
www.webstaurantstore.com/camb...
Humidifier:
BETAZOOER Reptile Humidifiers Mister Fogger with Extension Tube/Hose, Suitable for Reptiles/Amphibians/Herps/Vivarium with Terrariums and Enclosures (2.5 Liter Tank) a.co/d/8acy6GN
Humidity Controller:
Inkbird Digital Pre-Wired Outlet Dual Stage Humidity Controller IHC-200 for Mushroom Ventilator Fan Crawl Space Curing Meat Grow Room Tent Humidifier Dehumidifier. a.co/d/bH55QQ1
Low-CFM Fan Kit (80 mm):
thehouseofhydro.com/products/...
Large Gussetted Bag:
www.uline.com/Product/Detail/...
Love this video finally found what i needed after so many i watched
Glad you found it useful, I'm still rocking this same setup and I still love it.
I believe I have watched every single mushroom fruiting tent video on CZcams and this is by far the best one. I ordered my stuff a couple of days ago to build my own and everything just came yesterday. I'm extremely excited. I definitely will be following how you set yours up. Thank you so much.
That's awesome, I hope you like it. I'm still running mine the exact same way and loving it. I wouldn't change a thing.
Love the build. Too many setups I see on YT fill an entire room. Miniaturization is the mark of a true engineer.
That's an awesome set up. Im all about saving money and doing it myself instead of paying hundreds on pre-fabbed units. I've been wanting to set up a Martha with trays so this is definitely going to get watched again once the time comes. Thanks man
9:00 “Limited by my ceiling space” I heard “limited by mycelium space” lol. Great build! Thanks for your creative thinking and applied knowledge! I almost started to build a Martha tent but thanks to your videos I’m not. This build seems to avoid lots of the MT issues
If he's not making a Martha then what is this
Just wanted to say thank you for all your videos! They've taught me so much. You and Gary are my fav by far. Thank you!!!
That means a lot to me. I also love Gary. Thank you for the nice comment 👍
Who’s Gary?
@@kajkob Fresh from the Farm Fungi
Great video, and a very nice build! Very much appreciate all of the effort you put into education in practical mycology.
That's an awesome chamber.
Thank you, a lot of thought and planning went into it. I still really like, wouldn't change a thing.
Thank you for another great video. I really appreciate how you break down things for your viewers. Congrats on the new fruiting chamber.
You can easily order your mushroom growing kit from this specialist.
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Thank you! Great information ... I love your set up and tips. I am definitely learning from your experience.
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Really awesome
You can easily order from this mate where i bought mine from. They're on Instagram and telegram as..
*Levine_tripp*
They deals on all sort of exotic canabies and psychedelics mushies.. 🍄🍄. DMT, Xanax, LSD, Hash rosin.
They ship to any location 🌎.
Thanks for sharing the setup! I rarely see posts up about the longevity of the standard Martha Tent setups due to rust (the internet is dominated by Martha setups) but after careful searching, you see notes on how they really don't last. Even commercial setups seem to resort to PVC pipe or something else. So much appreciate your insight on that! Also, as a new grower, I found a smaller but much more economical version of the plastic shelf - the Ikea Vesken bathroom shelf. It's $19 CAD, white, all plastic, and perfectly fits the Kirkland clear large garbage bag which was also another great takeaway from your vid - using a disposable bag vs trying to clean those cheap plastic covers. My only final step is figuring a way to vent to the outside as I'm sure I'm not going to harvest on time and end up getting spores all over the house. Might pick up an in-line duct fan for that, though I'd be interested to hear what other options there are.
I used to use a low cfm fan to vent to the outside when I grew a much larger volume of oyster mushrooms in my basement. It was hooked to flexible drier duct and worked well. Just go with a low cfm fan that looks easy to clean, because spores will stick to everything in there and you will have to clean your fan periodically. It's also nice if you can find one with an adjustable speed control.
The internet is not dominated with Martha type setups. Only if you're shopping at stupid places that sell you a bunch of useless shit like led lights, heating pads, etc. If you're growing psilocybe especially cubebsus you absolutely don't need a Martha. A simple 20$ tote with the right holes placed in it is extremely effective. Only really need these if you're growing panaeolus species. And even some Pans like Pan cyan var Weza has been fruited in a little 6qrt on coir.
Nice thank you very much for all the input very smooth 😊
You make excellent points in the beginning that could save people a headache. As a gardener I can assure you I've constructed so many budget DIY projects I've seen only to have them not be worth the trouble due to maintenance, cleaning or simply wanting to try a better/new way and Then you have the huge hassle of getting rid of the stuff. When I first started growing I thought I'd be a hydro guy, but it just became a pain in the arse. I've built so many hydro systems to. Everytime one was finished within months I found a "better way" and then built that out etc. In the end I had so many buckets, trays, hoses etc to throw away it was embarrassing. I still remember the day I decided that if imma do this hobby I need to be minimalist about it. Now I simply use soil and compost that I make. I have a compost pile to maintain and that's about it. So much better this way.
Also,.regarding your oyster mushrooms and FAE I concur. I got some free oyster spores with an order I made but I was was not set up for oysters at all. I was using shoe boxes and small fruiting chambers not even shotgun ones to grow. I decided to see what would happen anyways and grew the oysters in shoeboxes with my normal coir based substrate not even woodchips or straw just to see what would happen. I do add nutrients to my coir, but I digress. Anyways, the results were actually a lot of fruiting but they were unrecognizable as oyster mushrooms. They looked like grey and white cordyceps lol. The chambers looked like a mat of spindly fruits. I was actually surprised they fruited but I'd say FAE is very important or else you get pencil thin spindles
You're absolutely right about the oysters, they are a great "canary in the coal mine" for testing the air exchange with any setup. They definitely tell you when they're not happy. Sounds like we are both into minimalist designs, and your story about your gardening projects totally makes sense 👍
@@RenegadeMushrooms exactly right. I'm all about simple now. I've gone down too many rabbit holes in my life with hobbies and finally learned simple vertically integrated non consumerist designs are the way to go. Keep the good vids comin
Nice design. I own Maple Brook Mushroom co in Florida. I have built many small tents, but this is really nice. I was also a chef for 30 years, and the Camaro shelving units are by far the best and easiest to clean... but expensive!
Yeah I stared at them on my phone for a long time before I pulled the trigger because of the price. No regrets, love it. I'll check out your company 👍
I checked out your Facebook, you have a nice operation going, and some beautiful oyster mushroom pics! I love that you get your kids involved too. I used to sell gourmet to higher end restaurants here in NY, but I gave that up for now. Just not enough time until I can retire from my day job.
@@RenegadeMushrooms We sell about 300 lbs. per week right now. We are expanding our op for another 2x growth in the next quarter. It is fun and challenging. LMK if you ever get down here to FL. I will welcome you to see our farm.
@@RenegadeMushrooms I retired from my day job last January. I'm only making about a 1/3rd of what I was making at the time, but it is continuing to get better. I no longer have high blood pressure! That is something!!
I really like your design. Webstaurant sells green wire shelving units for wet environments. They have a 18 x 30 x 54 that looks perfect. I might try that out. I will probably do a few of them and find a way to seal and vent them. I have been really stuck on how I wanted to do fruiting chambers, you helped me get the wheels turning. Thanks!
Awesome, let me know how it turns out 👍 Shelf dimensions sound right.
Did you ever get a shelving unit you liked? Im looking for a cheaper alternative
@@nightmare256 I didn't I ended up sticking with the Martha for a while. But I am pretty sure it would work.
Love the new fruiting chamber, and this is easy enough for me to do. Thank you.
Thank you for commenting 😘
You can easily order from this mate where i bought mine from. They're on Instagram and telegram as..
*Levine_tripp*
They deals on all sort of exotic canabies and psychedelics mushies.. 🍄🍄. DMT, Xanax, LSD, Hash rosin.
They ship to any location 🌎.
Love this build
Me too, I've been rocking it for a year now and I wouldn't change a thing. Effective, easy to clean, and portable. Thanks for watching.
4:04 You could run a test by putting red light spectrum LEDs on the left and green light spectrum LEDs on the right and see which direction the mushrooms lean towards. Determine the winner between green or red and then test the winner with another and repeat until you find the best light spectrum. It's been well known for a while that the blue light spectrum is favoured by mushrooms but the intensity and/or diversity of other light spectrums may influence the mushroom's medicinal contents so its well worth trying but hard to decipher the changes in its chemical composition without heavy tech.
Yeah I here ya. I know blue is just kind of that "catch-all" spectrum for mushroom growing and I've seen research that other spectrums aid in pinning, fruit body development, etc. with different species. It would be interesting to look into further.
This is great! Someone can also use PVC piping to construct a shelving unit.
Thank you for posting this. I made one very similar. The Lion's Mane is loving it!
You can easily order from this mate where i bought mine from. They're on Instagram and telegram as..
*Levine_tripp*
They deals on all sort of exotic canabies and psychedelics mushies.. 🍄🍄. DMT, Xanax, LSD, Hash rosin.
They ship to any location 🌎.
Pretty crafty 👍👍👍👍
Thank you! 😊
@@RenegadeMushrooms . Trying to learn about growing mushrooms I'm getting ready to do my first grow 😳😳🤔🤔
Very nice , built one out of pvc , great idea
Nice drip tray bruh
Suggestion - Move the catch tray tote lid to the the other end, so as to be under the humidifier shelf. Saving space and keeping the fan cord safely tucked away with the other cords.
Only issue I see with that is blowing humidifier air right back up into the bottom of my humidifier might not be good for it. Good idea though, maybe I'll try it.
Perhaps a simple diverter so that it doesn't blow straight up if needed. Really nice set, simple up overall. @@RenegadeMushrooms
Look into the ac infinity cloud line humidifier it comes with a humidity sensor and is made for this for 60 dollars and hoses
I'll check it out, thanks.
This is a great video out of the many I have watched. Just to clarify the fan is more of an exhaust fan rather than pushing air into the chamber? I am amassing supplies to grow, this shelf is amazing! I am also trying to use some mushroom-growing concepts for a plant shade house I am working on and this video is quite clear.
Yes the fan works like an exhaust fan, but by pulling air out of the chamber it also draws fresh air in through the slits in the plastic on the humidifier side. Glad you enjoyed the video, thx for watchin.
That makes sense! Thank you for sharing. @@RenegadeMushrooms
Once again, a great video that is so helpful in the small details and practical advice! I appreciate being able to watch and learn from you. I especially like the observation that a plastic frame is better for a Martha Tent-type set up because it will last longer than metal in a high humidity environment.
I had a question about your fruiting chamber maintenance: you mentioned that you clean your setup about once a week. What kind of cleaning procedure/protocol do you use? ISA? Hydrogen peroxide? Paper towels to wipe everything down?
I was going to do a 1 month protocol for cleaning my 60-qt plastic tote. What has been your experience with totes?
My fruiting chamber is inspired by your setup and controlled by Home Assistant on a Rasberry Pi 4. I’m using IoT devices to monitor humidity and CO2, turn on/off the ventilation fan, and detect when the humidifier reservoir is empty. The humidifier and grow light are controlled via a smart plug.
Keep rockin’ the great videos!
Sounds like an awesome setup you have there. As far as cleaning goes nothing beats a wash in hot soap water with a good rinse and air dry. You can use 10% bleach but it has to be rinsed very well or it will leave residue that actually promotes contamination.
Winter Clean: Wash everything except for shelving frame in hot soapy water in the sink, rinse, air dry. Wipe shelving frame down completely with 70% isopropyl.
Summer clean: Everything goes outside, including shelving frame. Everything gets washed with hot soapy water, rinsed, and air dried in the sun.
Same for totes, I prefer to wash with hot soapy water, rinse, air dry.
AWESOME....I am wondering about the Betazooer humidifier..... If you un plug it and then plug it back in ,will the unit come back on ? all the humidifiers I have will not come on after the power goes out unless the "on" button is pushed....Thanx
That's part of the reason I liked this one, it's just a simple dial control, no electronics. It will come back on when plugged in so you could use a timer on it.
Nice improvement! I remember you making slits on 3 sides of your FC. How many slits did you make in this gussetted bag?
No open slits in this one, the low cfm fan takes care of the air exchange. That old design still works great until you can afford to build one a little fancier like this. Thanks for watching 😁
Have you thought about a uv sterilizer in the humidifier would that stop contaminants in tube
I've talked to others that have had good success with the UV light deal, but mostly in "house of hydro" style homemade humidifiers. Because I'm using small "off the shelf" humidifiers, I don't think it's as feasible. Honestly, as long as you keep your hose run short like I show in the video, it's pretty easy to just clean your hose every five days or so. Then it's not an issue.
Thanks for the videos just harvested my first lion's mane,Got a pound and a half from a 2 gallon bucket with fuel pellets which I used right out of the bag with rye grain spawn which I didn't soak or simmer just pc it used 255 g grain and 170 water.I have bought a cambro.I have a question the shelf that holds the humidifier is that an accessory kit or did u make it. Thanks Rory
With the Cambro, the way the shelves attach, you can attach the horizontal supports both inside and outside the frame. All I had to do was cut a couple of the horizontal supports to make a short little outside shelf. Glad your grow went well and you are enjoying the videos.
1 30 in rail cbtr30580 16.49 1 pack dovetail clips 10.49 cbtd 8580, shipping 73.66 ? I don't get the shipping they only charged me 84.72 for the whole shelf unit
So where does the fresh makeup air get in? Just having a bit of trouble seeing that. Was just going to buy a Martha set-up for ease of set-up, but this looks doable even with my limited skill!
The low cfm fan at the base continually draws air from the top of the chamber down and out. The fresh air is drawn through the slits in the plastic on the opposite side of the chamber primarily. Some fresh air is also pushed in by the humidifier. This is by far the best small humidity chamber I've ever built. You don't have to get the same shelving unit, but I highly recommend that humidifier, fan, and humidity controller.
I have followed your fruiting chamber design. having trouble with the betazooer constantly leaking between the tank and the base.Any suggestions to fix this
It should never do that, either the seal is bad or its cracked. I would request a replacement.
Saw Midwest has ECO-CLEANSE. Add to the humidifier once a week to stop mold. If it works, it sure would save a lot of dicking around tearing down and manual cleaning. Thoughts?
Never heard of it, I'll have to check it out. My guess is it would delay manual cleaning not prevent it. But, even if it delays it I'm a fan as long as it's reasonably priced.
hello, quick question, if i have a fan running for f.a.e., is monitoring co2 necessary?
A CO2 monitor is a cool thing to have, but the inkbirds run like $200 so a little pricey. I've personally never used one. Learning to balance air exchange and humidity just by reading your mushrooms is a but of an art, but it definitely can be done.
Great build. Where does the fresh air enter the tent? Does pulling out the CO2 at the bottom of the tent draw in air that migrates to the top? Thanks.
Thanks, I love it. Most effective small tent I've ever built. I have slits on the humidifier side which I clip at the bottom to keep tight, but I can unclip and access the tent that way as the slits kinda make flaps out of the sides. The fresh air enters mostly through the slits and the hole cut for the humidifier tube. It's enough for a small setup like this.
@@RenegadeMushrooms Thanks, I appreciate the response.
This was in the back burner, in the back of my brain lol catch phrase?
Great setup renegade, thanks for sharing. How would you control the temperature within the fruiting chamber, without having to heat an entire room?
It's tough, with a small chamber you really have to control the temperature of the room, not the chamber itself. I personally just grow species/strains that do well in my ambient temperature, which ranges from 60 F in the spring to 70 F in the fall.
@@RenegadeMushrooms I appreciate the reply 🙏
Great setup!!! What size shelf are you using???
The link is in the description, but the outside dimensions are about 30" x 18".
So I would have to order a carton for $80 of the gusseted bag? I'm trying to build a still air box out of PVC and plastic. I thought this would be a good idea. I'm thinking of using painters drop plastic.
That would work fine. Any clear plastic will work, I just chose those gussetted bags because they perfectly fit my shelving unit and the price per bag is pretty reasonable if you buy the case.
Would this be something that would be easy to scale down a bit? I don’t have very much space, looking to make something that would be 1/2 or 1/4 the size volume wise
This design would easily scale down or up, but this unit only stands about 4' tall and the footprint is only about 4' X 2' so it might work in your small space.
In an earlier video you celebrated the idea of having the humidity in your fruiting chamber change (wet/dry/wet) and indicated it didn't impact the mushrooms but would be beneficial in preventing mold growth. In this video you got the humidity controller and set it to a very narrow range. Change of opinion?
No, not at all. Both methods can work. You do need to clean more often with an automated consistent humidity setup, but most fruiting chambers are set up that way and they grow beautiful mushrooms. My point in making that other video was to show that consistent humidity isn't absolutely necessary, and some mushrooms (like Turkey Tail) even seem to benefit from a moist/dry cycle.
How big is the cut next to the humidifier for fae
There are two slits about 3 ft. long that are clipped at the bottom. They're not wide open but they do allow plenty of air in.
Make a video about how you cover the rack with plastic, please
I completely explain it in this video. 13:20
Where did you get the large plastic bags from ??
Everything is linked in the video description, they are from ULINE.
I noticed most people who use these setups that I'm seeing on CZcams have fresh air blowing in as opposed to your setup pulling CO2 out. Do you figure it's the same difference because if you're pulling it out it looks like your set up has enough openings around the plastic to pull enough fresh air in as the fan pulls out??
Yeah, it seems the draw from the fan pulls enough air in through the slits in the plastic to keep everything in balance. The key is just creating flow. You could skip the fan entirely and just slit the plastic fully down three sides and just the air flowing in from the room would give you enough FAE. Lots of options, but I'm liking this design.
Is it possible to use a very weak bleach solution in the humidifier as a means to reduce contamination without hurting your crop? Kind of like the cdc's recommendation for using bleach to make water drinkable... 🤔
I've heard of people mixing in some hydrogen peroxide. My concern with the bleach is that it would eventually corrode the ultrasonic disc in the humidifier.
@@RenegadeMushrooms that problem came across my mind as well. They're supposed to be ceramic but anything is so cheaply made anymore. Maybe I'll experiment with a $10 atomizer 🤷♂️
I use 3% peroxide in the water and I have no contamination
Have you really loaded your fruiting chamber up yet or do you only do a couple bags at a time to prevent the fog from landing directly on the mushrooms? It would be cool to see this thing fully loaded 👍
I think five or six bags is the most I've had in it at one time. It would hold more, but I'm not doing big runs anymore since I quit selling to restaurants. I think you could do 10 or 12 in it, but it would be PACKED. Even at half capacity though, building this costs less than some of those counter top automated chambers that only hold one block. I also really appreciate it's portability and ease of cleaning.
@@RenegadeMushrooms Really eyeing that up. Just getting back into this and thinking about spending the money up front so I don't have to buy twice. Awesome set up 👍
Soak hoses in vinegar then rinse
Does the humidifier run all the time ? Wondering how important is it to have the meter if I was to leave my single disk humidifier running 24.
Mine does not run all the time, the Inkbird regularly turns it on and off with my set-up.
@Renegade Mushrooms yes great point to have one but you can say get away running 24hr. In a mini green house ?
@@andrewbarnett2761 It all depends on the chamber size and the humidifier. If your humidity is near saturation all the time you will get mold growth quickly and you will risk bacterial contamination on your mushrooms. You want to be able to operate between 75% to 95%. At minimum I would get a cheap humidity gauge to see what you're holding at.
I noticed in your link for the gusseted bags that this is the 3 Mil thickness version. Uline offers the same dimensions at 1 Mil thickness at a third of the cost. Is the 3 Mil thickness intentional? I tried adding the U-line link for the 1 Mil but CZcams scrubbed the comment 😆
Figures 😅 I think I bought 100 of the 3 mil. I don't remember if I wanted the thicker plastic or just didn't see the cheaper ones. At 1/3 of the price though I would say thin for the win!
Why is the fan outside the shelving unit?
This design is actually working very well for me. The fan draws and exhausts air from the bottom of the chamber out into the room, thereby drawing fresh air through the slits in the plastic on the opposite side of the chamber.
Is the fan always on?
Yes, its always running but on the lowest possible speed setting.
@1:43 - Bro, I haven't heard the term "Martha" since the old Shroomery days. My how times have changed.
A lot of mushrooms were born in those old martha tents 😅
@@RenegadeMushrooms Search the term "Ghetto Ozone Tek" and you will delve in to my past Shroomery days. 17 years ago, bro...
Can you write please the name of the injection ports? Can't find them anywhere
microppose.com/collections/lids-lid-tools/products/adherable-injection-ports-for-plant-mushroom-tissue-culture
@@RenegadeMushrooms Thank you!
@11:59 - If you're a super-geek, you could modify a heated hose from a CPAP machine to prevent this.
Cool idea 👍
Do you still feel the same about that humidifier now that it's been a while. Have any issues with it leaking or anything like
Nope, still working great. I bought a second one as a spare but the first is still working fine.
@@RenegadeMushrooms thanks for answering. Got my first experiment going. I got eight blocks of lion's mane. Four of sterilized with cup of bran and a little bit of gypsum. Two of them pasteurized with Bran and Gypsum, and two pasteurized with no supplementation. They all look pretty good. I'm hearing conflicting stuff on when to fruit them I'm about 9 Days in. Some people say fruit a little early with lions mane. What is your experience do you wait until the block is completely white all over, or do you fruit a little early
@@candusb The blocks won't be white all over with Hericium when they're ready to fruit. I just watch for primordia formation. When you see dense white bumps or pins pushing against the plastic, they are ready. I have a video on Hericium from start to finish on my channel from about a year ago.
What is the brand of shelving unit
Cambro, the link is in the description of the video.
so 11 months since posted...any updates or changes? Would you still recommend this setup?
Absolutely, I love it. Perfect high FAE conditions and easily sets up anywhere. Wouldn't change a thing at this point honestly.
For cleaning the chamber I thought the cleaning cycle was after every successful fruiting . You're saying once a week on this video? Having never done anything yet I'm confused about this now. I thought the previous video you did with the chrome frame shelf from home depot you were saying after the fruiting is done and you've reaped the harvest. Can you elaborate on that a bit? Also notice for the first time you seem to be using plastic tubs instead of the usual plastic bags. Did you do a video on inoculating those and how you go about doing that somewhere that I haven't seen yet?
Video on the container grow is coming in the next few days, so stay tuned 👍 It is best to clean once a week if at all possible, but you can go a few more days if you're just waiting for a grow to finish out with something fast growing like oysters. With a slower growing species where your blocks will be in fruiting for am extended period of time, you should clean at least once per week. It definitely pays to stay ahead of the mold.
@@RenegadeMushrooms ah ok so having not grown anything yet I thought most mushrooms took at least a few weeks or more to fruit. So what do you do then with a longer fruiting mushrooms, like where do you store them while doing the cleaning? Do you have another chamber ?
@@tomcatmeow69 Oysters are often less than a week from pinning to harvest. Ideally it would be awesome to have a second fruiting chamber to move them too, but I don't as of now. I typically use those large clear storage totes with the balls of polyfil to hold blocks temporarily for a day or so while I clean. You wouldn't want to put mushrooms that demand a lot of FAE like oyster in a sealed tub like that though because they will suffocate. That's why I will just let oysters finish if possible, or if they have to go in tubs, leave the tub tops well ajar and mist the tubs frequently.
Were did you buy the from??
Where did I buy what from???
Idk, but that is a great from. Prob the best from I ever saw.
Is there parts list
Everything is linked in the description of the video.
Where's the plastic from please
It's a large gussetted bag from ULINE. The links to everything is in the description of the video.
Hey!
Is there a way to get in touch with you?
I've been trying to grow oysters and have questions about the fruiting/pinning phase please
Just ask your question here, I try to stay on top of my comments. I'm working on some other platforms for the future, but for now, this is the best place to chat. Just give me as many details as you can and I'll try to help.
@@RenegadeMushrooms I lack some of the vocabulary probably, so pictures might have made things easier but here goes :D
having limited space and equipment (I'll invest later if first trials are semi successful), so I've been cultivating mycelium in glass jars in a cupboard (large holes cut in the lids + filters). The goal being to open the lids and put the jar in a "fruiting chamber" (large transparent plastic container with plenty of humidity).
My methodology for substrates in the jars has been very scientific: throw everything at the wall and see what sticks (I have unlimited coffee grounds and lots of waste material), usually coffee + .
The first few jars had seemed ready to me about 5 days ago, they had stalled but had a fairly consistent mycelium. Once opened the top looked live fuzzy snow. But after 5 days still no apparent pinning.
A few of them had kinda larger thick fuzzballs on top (hyphal knots?) about a quarter inch wide.
The ones that had stalled thickened and fully colonized in the fruiting chamber. But still nothing changed.
(Last second change: the mycelium in two jars seems to have contracted, there is a gap with a bit of moisture between the glass and the mycelium. and on one of them, the fuzzy balls look closer to cauliflower now, is that pinning?)
In general, I don't know how bright the environment needs to be (I've seen "1000 lumen" but that means nothing to me). Or if I should scrap some of the fuzz off the top to trigger a pinning or something?
@@namenloss730 They really don't need a lot of light. I recommend LED lights in the blue spectrum (6500 K), but it doesn't have to be really bright. Just the indirect sunlight that naturally fills a room is usually enough. You don't want any direct sunlight or bright incandescent light. It sounds like your oysters are indeed pinning, so keep an eye on them. Those cauliflower looking balls are pins I'm sure. Keep in mind they need lots of fresh air exchange and moisture to pin and fruit properly. Every species and strain of oyster is a little different. Some of the cold weather oyster strains really need a "cold shock" to initiate pinning on schedule.
@@RenegadeMushrooms Thanks for the helpful tips,
direct sunlight and incandescent lights dry out the mycelium right?
I'm seeing a huge difference in density in the mycelium since I put it in the fruiting chamber. It probably means the moisture content of my substrate was insufficient I suppose?
I'll invest in LEDs at a later point. European salaries are not remotely similar to american ones (I miss my american salary
@@namenloss730 Sounds like you're on the right track. Very bright direct light will actually slow or stop mycelial growth. Also, the heat it generates can lead to your block overheating and cause contamination.
I don't understand this. Half of the videos I watch use a humidifier, The other half simply make sure the substrate is moist. If I was a smart man I would assume that it's because of climate. It could even be strain or even phenotype. Does anyone know the actual answer so I'm not guessing?
Bottom line is mushrooms need a humidified ambient environment to fruit normally, typically around 80% to 90%. If you don't have it, you need to make it. The exception is growing mushrooms inside a bag or tub where the air exchange is so low that the substrate maintains the humidity for you. There are relatively few species that fruit well in this sealed environment though. Most require a more open environment with more fresh air exchange. Once you start introducing a higher volume of fresh air, humidification becomes necessary.
once u get contamination its the biggest mess ever...
Definitely pays to stay on top of cleaning your chamber, at least once per week.
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@@lordmozz_tripyour mother
Are those uprights hollow? No, you wouldn't do that, give contam a place to hide and grow inside your nice tent. You wouldn't. Tell me you wouldn't.
From what I can tell, they are only hollow in the ends to accept the connectors. Those ends are pretty much sealed by the connectors.
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Great channel, thanks to share your knowledge with us , i have a question about washing the plastic shelving in the dishwasher , are you using normal dishwasher soap?
Honestly, they are dishwasher safe, but I've yet to put them in the dishwasher. I have a long soft bristle brush and I just wash them by hand with warm water and dish soap (like Dawn).