The Home Depot will never be the same after this Huge Announcement
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- čas přidán 6. 07. 2023
- The home depot is one of the largest hardware stores in the world, and they decided to go in a major new direction, as did Honda with their gas powered mowers. Yep, The home Depot wants to be 85% electric Outdoor power equipment by 2028, and Honda will no longer make it's famous gas powered mowers after 2023
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I use a gas mower to mow my larger of the yards, but the smaller property I use the electric mower. They both have their place on the market. I keep the electric mower at our beach house since I can mow early and not wake everyone up when we are on vacation. The neighbors appreciate it as well.
Three years ago I bought a Ryobi 40 volt mower. Still working perfectly - I love it.
I guess we will have to build more nuclear, oil, coal and natural gas power plants to keep all of these electrical pieces of equipment charged!
Hopefully just nuclear
In addition to all these electric cars they want us all to drive.. but then they can’t even keep the lights on in CA n TX! 😂😒
The coal powered electric car/mower/leaf blower/string trimmer argument is getting real tired and old. And just not as true as before. Solar and wind grid power is growing rapidly. We are now getting to the point where solar 10 to 20 kWh power systems with battery backups are beginning to reach the home market and are beginning to become doable for early adopters. All you need is a 200 to 500 square foot roof area that has reasonable sun exposure and a 30 to 60 kWh battery to tie it all together, and you have a stand alone power station. And with net metering technology’s, these homes can export the surplus power back to the grid.
Right now I can install a 10 kWh solar system on my house for in the neighborhood of $22,000 to $24,000. Substantially less if I utilize the various rebate and tax credits or benefits.
As my roof on my house reaches its end of life, reroofing with solar shingles is becoming a viable option because since I have to replace the roof shingles anyway, that cost can instead be applied to the solar roof shingles instead.
My daily home power consumption rarely exceeds 7.5 kWh so a 10 kWh solar system would be sufficient to handle my demand, and if I install a 30 to 60 kWh battery supply, then I have a pretty darn solid power system with plenty of reserve capacity. Just think, I might even have enough power to charge all my electric yard tools and EV cars.
Exactly.
Coal plants are being phased out constantly. Nat Gas plants that power EVs are far cleaner than internal combustion engines, especially small engines which are extremely dirty relative to the power output. Lets not even get into solar, wind, and the best of all, nuclear. This argument about the source of electricity negating the emissions of the tool only appeals to rednecks who have no understanding of the situation.
I think people should have the choice of either option. I have a battery powered leaf blower and I have a gas powered backpack blower. Between the two, it’s no contest. The battery blower just doesn’t have a fraction of the power of the gas unit. Plus the batteries just don’t last. If all the yard you maintain is a passage stamp size with one tree, you can do that with battery powered equipment but if you have something like a 25 acre farm out in the country, you need gas.
I agree. If you like gas, you should he able to buy gas. I have a feeling that Gass powerd mowers with me a niche thing not to long in the future with the way things are going now though
I have a craftsman lawnmower. It's way better than gas. It starts just as fast and does not make my shed sell like gas. The V20 batteries can fit into my circular saw and power drill too.
@@ToolReviewZone I agree.
@@actualdavidhenry Exactly. That’s why I said I thought everyone should have their choice. Everyone has their preference.
Gas>electric.
Working for the town sanitation department I've showed you pictures of lawn mowers weed wackers that I've been using for years and have zero issues with. I actually had to go knock on someone's door because they had a Husqvarna lawn mower and a Echo weed wacker because I wasn't sure if they were throwing them away because that's how clean they were. I ended up selling the Echo for $100 dollars because I have Milwaukee and DeWalt lawn equipment. But almost everything I see in the garbage mostly has perfect compression and feels like it just needs gas. 💯👍
About 4 or 5 years ago, I bought a few Milwaukee OPE battery powered tools for the convenience to replace my Echo and Stihl equipment. Came with two 9 AH batteries. Last year, one of the batteries died just outside the 3 year warranty. That caused me to think about the lifetime cost of a battery powered tool vs gas. For example, my Echo weed eater was about 18 years old and was never professionally repaired. Did my own tuneups, etc. still ran good when I switched to battery tools. Probably bought 3 gallons or so of gas each year to run everything. So, in 10 or 15 years, which would be cheaper to own given that I’ll have to replace batteries every, say 3-5 years? A couple high AH batteries now cost more than I paid for my Echo trimmer. Something to think about.
Shhhhh, that’s the part they don’t want you to think about. As more and more people are pushed over to batteries the cost will skyrocket. Also, don’t think they won’t put us all on subscription frees to replace batteries and battery chargers. It’s coming.
I have a Shindowa commercial trimmer under warranty and Shindowa doesn’t have the battery I need that is under warranty so it’s a boat anchor gas is better
Echo is the best trimmer I have ever owned
All this just makes me wonder if I should buy 4 or 5 Honda mowers before they're gone. I somehow suspect these will become beanie babies or baseball cards at some point in the future. Some guys are going to stick with gas powered engines as long as possible (like me) !!!!
Honda motors aren’t very good right now. There’s even a mass recall on several models and won’t sell them to you.
I picked up an HRX217HYA last year and now I’m paranoid about the deck. I wonder if I should grab an HRC or HRN once they get the cams sorted. HRC is heavy, expensive, and less powerful than my HRX which is my biggest hang up there…plus at that point Toro is still making commercial 21 inch mowers…. So I dunno.
@@briantii Ya, I don't blame you. I got a Milwaukee mower and have been really happy with it and I have an acre to mow. Would prefer a riding lawn mower but something about the push that I still enjoy and the Milwaukee has plenty of power.
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When everything is electric, where are we going to get the electricity to charge all of those batteries and what do we do with all of the toxic waste in those batteries when they are used up?
They better start building new additional power plants, sub stations, new battery factories, and battery waste disposal sites in EVERY city… idk how they are gonna supply power to every car/mower/trimmer/blower in a timely fashion, and once they do FORCE us onto electric you know power bill rates going sky high with government subsidized control… the electric stuff is PERFECTLY fine for Joe Schmo homeowner on his 1acre lot, but all the maintenance crews covering businesses, big lots, entire neighborhoods, and MILES of grass EVERYDAY is going to be problem, especially the private/smaller/newer ones… I think we’re almost there, but battery tech, structure, and supply still has some ways to go. Another thing I ABSOLUTELY HATE is the $ grift that has come with the green energy thing… I don’t like being FORCED to do anything, if they want us to go full electric they need to make it cheaper/faster/more efficient than gas…
Ryobi made a commitment not to change its battery platform, many years ago at the behest of their customers, their 18650 batteries might not be as good as some others, but they are definitely not terrible and the new 8 & 12ah come with 21700 cells. And even with the current design, I still don’t think they are all that awkward, the only thing that makes them different from other batteries is the post and that goes up into the tool and since most tools are brushless now that area is usually “empty” anyways.
Battery tech is getting better and better, but like you suggested, it's probably never going to be adequate for crews covering massive areas with miles of grass. I don't agree that people are being forced to do anything, though. If a practice or product is revealed to be harmful, we need to discontinue its use and adapt to alternatives. People used to cut down entire forests without replanting. Cities used to dump their garbage and sewage in waterways. Lead, arsenic, mercury, and asbestos were everywhere. Kids were forced to work 16-hour days in factories. Those things were discontinued and people were inconvenienced - but we adapted, and things got better.
However, none of those situations threatened the existence of humanity like massive ecosystem collapse caused by rapid climate change. Had oil/chemical companies told the truth 40 years ago, we might have developed better alternative technologies by now. But they didn't, and now we have yard machines with crappy expensive toxic batteries along with money-grabbing green-washing propaganda. And since our society is based on making money - electric might eventually be faster and more efficient, but it will NEVER be cheaper.
But we can adapt. Ideas about landscaping and what is considered beautiful can change. We don't need miles of grass, geometric shrubs, and non-native plants. In fact, manicured landscaping is kind of becoming outdated. Queen Victoria is over LOL Municipal and architectural considerations can result in beautiful, natural, low maintenance landscaping that can be maintained with mechanical tools - as people have used for millennia.
@@KittyNoNostop. Just stop. There is no such thing as rapid climate change. The climate changes and it always has. Look at actual climate history instead of these climate crises hoaxers using only 50 years of data. There is a reason the rich and powerful all live on the coast, they know there is nothing to worry about. In 10 years when nothing happens. They will push down the road another 10 years.
They can have my gas Stihl farmboss when they pry it from my cold dead hands! 😂
Nobody realizes, that electric OPE is disposable, compared to gas? Are the parts available, when you hit a tree stump, and bend the motor shaft, $200 for another unit? This society has become disposable?
Every part on electric mowers is proprietary. When they break they will be too expensive to repair and will be tossed on the curb to fill dumps with toxic materials.
I bought my first house 14 years ago and thought about a battery powered mower. I believe the newest buzz word back then was “brushless”.
I really wish I could remember the brand that I was close to buying…
I’m not going to use a push mower ever again (at least for this hose)
Riding is the way to go
I tried to go electric but my relatively small lawn is just too big. If the lawn were just a little long or slightly wet it would rip through batteries and even with 3 sets I’d end up waiting on a charge. I did like the lack of maintenance and being able to store it upright, but ultimately the power and stamina of the gas motor won for me.
What voltage was your mower? 20V and 40V mowers use batteries that usually store less energy. My 60V (56V) Greenworks 21-inch self-propelled mower can cut my 0.7-acre lawn using five 270-watt-hour (5-amp-hour) batteries. Since the mower holds two batteries, I change batteries just twice.
@@PaulStregevskyI had the 80v Kobalt (built by green works). The 6AH battery was great and I could mow weed eat and blow off my small property when I lived in the city. It would take 2 6AH batteries to do my parents property just to mow. IMHO they are ok, but won’t go through tough thick grass like a good gas mower. Honestly the electric weedeater is what really annoyed me
I mow 1/2 acre on 1 charge 7.5 a/h battery using Ego self-propelled mower. Get a ‘real’ battery powered mower for far better results.
@@JimzAuto
I've got an Ego as well. I've got a 1/3 of an acre that I can mow and then put the battery in the blower and blow the clippings off the driveway and sidewalk.
Bullshit. I’ve been cutting 11k square feet at 1 inch height of cut with an ego mower for 3 years. Same battery for all 3 years, and it STILL does the whole lawn on one charge. You’re either lying or you bought a terrible electric mower.
Like Mike Trivisonno used to say on TAM, I'm living in a world I no longer understand. When the batrays for the cars need disposed of the world will freak out with what and where will we get rid of them lol.Just like nuclear waste nobody will want that stuff in their neighborhood
If you are a homeowner with a small yard, the battery option is great . But if you have a large piece of property/acreage, gas is definitely the way to go. But everyone has their preference.
Could one just mow in sections? Use the trimmer in sections?
Electric really has advanced a lot, but that is the one area where it just hasn't quite caught up with gas. (But it's getting closer) Is the ability to instantly re-top off your gas tank in minutes. Once batteries can do the same, it will change everything, not just lawn equipment, but transportation as well, and sure you can swap out batteries on these mowers and such, but it requires you to have multiple batteries with multiple chargers, and have those batteries fully charged at a moments notice. For all of us "average consumers", that's just not feasible, and yes, you could do your work in sections and wait it out, but in our busy life styles, not everyone has the time for that. I just rushed mowing my grass last night on my Cub Cadet 71 because today called for rain all day, and I had to stop for fuel in-between mowing. Had I stopped for a battery charge I wouldn't have finished it and I would be waiting out the next few days of rain to continue the job, and I'm not against battery power, quite the contrary, I love my battery powered equipment for all the reasons mentioned in this video. But I still acknowledge where gas has it's place.
Would it be too much to ask for both?
BUT ... a better battery management charger is needed for off season. When those Ryobi batteries go dead it's mighty expensive, unless you know the hack.
I have a Honda Harmony 215 that I bought in spring 1996, it sat in storage for 11 years when we lived in a condo. 8 pulls with fresh gas and it was running, gave her a tune-up and new blades and it is ready for another 20 years of service.
I went to a Cub Cadet dealer to buy a garden tractor and they steered me far, far away from the battery operated one.
I switched all my lawn care equipment to M18 and ego. I still have my John deer tractor. Waiting for Milwaukee to come out with a Zero turn. Great video.
Looks like I’ll be stocking up on some engines for my zero turn!!
My battery powered push mower doesn’t like tall grass. Had to get out the gas mower to handle the tall grass.
I like my Honda mower of many years. I had Echo power tools too. I sold all of them. What got me into the electric mower is low maintenance. No more oil, air filter, spark plug changes. No more going to the gas station, particularly I went to a non ethanol station which are farther away. That's what got me into electric tools. In my opinion they work about the same and a bit lighter to use. For the professional, I can only see gas as the preferable lawn equip to use.
I moved back to a house rental in Texas after I retired from the military. I needed to cut the grass one weekend so I borrowed my son's Briggs and Stratton gas mower. Holy cow that thing was spewing smoke, barely started no matter how many times I pulled that damn string. Cleaned everything out as best I could, barely had enough oil, spark plugs were dirty. I used it that one time and decided to get the Ego mower after a week-long research. That was in 2017 and I still have the same mower and same 5.0 battery. Only maintenance I do is sharpen the blades or just buy a new one if it's beaten up. Naturally I added the string trimmer and blower weeks later. Only OPE I replaced was the trimmer when I upgraded to the IQ trimmer. Love that thing. Yes I know if my son took care of it I wouldn't have had any issues. But come on, you know how it is. I really didn't want to be dealing with no spark plug, cleaning filters, changing oil, making sure there's no gas, hauling a 2 gallon can in the back of my SUV so I can smell the fumes from the gas station to the house, nah I'm fine without it. Just let me pull the mower from the corner of the garage, wipe the spider webs and dead bugs away, insert battery and just Go... love it!
You chose well brother. Thanks for the comment 👊
I am in the market for a push mower and really wish I would have picked up a Honda when I had the chance. Now my options are very limited for a quality machine. My main concern is longevity and maintenance. You can still run a riding or push mower from the 80's or 90's (that's 30 to 40 years old, people!) season after season as long as you keep up with the maintenance. My questions for the battery powered industry: how long will these machines actually last that run on batteries? What about repairs; will I have to go to some super specialized repair shop, ship out my mower, or will my small engine dealer be able to repair the mower/trimmer/chain saw in town? Or, can I service it myself if I'm mechanical or just a problem solver?
The issue that I see is that these machines will likely be obsoleted or impossible (or simply impractical) to repair every 5-7 years (my guess), which means replacing the whole thing in less than a decade. Over time, that will become FAR more expensive and could also become a huge problem for our landfills.
I am thrilled with the performance of my 20+ year old TORO mower!
@@williamcody5271 same here i have a 20+ toro mower that I got for free and that thing was a huge mess gas/oil in air filter engine was loose on the deck propel belt was about to break in half and it needed an oil change and a new spark plug I did the very needed maintenance on it and it's been running great ever since.
About 12 years ago. I purchased a Toro pace mower. It starts every year. It continues to serve me well
@@williamcody5271 We got our mower 15 years ago and I just had to change the oil a time or two. I should replace the blade at some point. You can sharpen them but new ones go on clearance in the off season and you can only hit so many rocks and branches and roots.
I bought an electric Ryobi self propelled push mower last year from Home Depot. I loved it and it did a great job...until it's 5th use. About 10 minutes into my lawn it died. I thought the battery might not have charged so I pulled it and put it on the charger, came back to the mower and switched over to the other 40v battery. Attempted to start and still nothing, and then a moment later smoke came rolling from the battery compartment. I took it back and got a gas mower. That being said I plan to try again next season with an Ego for the same reasons you mentioned: Noise, maintenance, etc.
The only thing I recommend buying electric are the string trimmers. The downside of electric is the battery life and those aren't cheap especially if you have a big lawn. There is no repair for electric, you just replaced it, probably the biggest scandals when it comes to e-waste which isn't environmental friendly.
Think of the huge, huge demand on the earth this will have all at once. Billions of these e-gadgets will be sought after. ( The filthy rich will make 100's of billions )
I have a small yard and I all my yard tools are cordless I love that their quieter and less messing and even if I had a big yard I would still have battery powered equipment even though it’s pricier I just always hated pulling on my gas equipment which it took so many tries and having to go get gas and just over all love all cordless tools.
My local home Depot only had 8 gas powered mowers and 23 electric mowers. Thats near 75%. One more year and they could easily hit thier 85%. Crazy to me. It looked to me also that the bays that were most empty were the gas powered ones. So i believe they should offer both and let the people have the choice.
really??
like when the pharmacies used to have spray cans of deodorant. then they switched to the powder and gel ones. the ozone layer is thanking us for not having that choice.
same with leaded gas.
@@RobertoCarlos-tn1iq yes really! Oh, and tell me this. What plant doesn't like C02. You can't because plants like it. They love it. Ozone...ha what a laugh. Deodorant cans... Ruining the Ozone....😂🤣😅🤣😂. Get real. When one volcano goes off it puts more CO2 in the atmosphere than all the cars in the world and your scary deodorant cans do for years. Get a life. Go get some real numbers. Just think for a second and realize how many volcanoes have gone off in the last year, 5 years, 100 years heck pick a number. Guess what, we still have our "ozone". Sounds like you have fallen for some idiot scare tactics. Remember when Obamah had all those signs made that warned we wouldn't have all these glaciers by the year 2020? We spent millions on those signs.....guess what ALL the glaciers ARE STILL THERE. Then we had to have people go take them all down🤣😂. Don't bother me with all this global warming junk. Where I live we've had nothing but a ton of record lows here. You are not fooling anyone, give up this silly notion and look up some real numbers.
I mow 5 yards and one property (a few acres). On of my customers wanted me to mow with his EGO mower. I did, but every mow, I ran out of battery and needed to change over to the smaller EGO weed eater battery to finish the last part of the yard. Also, for some reason, the batteries don't last long on the first mow after not being used in winter. Plus, although the mower is quiet and cuts much nicer than I expected, it doesn't like the talk thick grass that grows at the bottom of their hill, so i have to go over it more than once. All of this adds up to more time/complication on the job. I went back to using my Honda push mower.
I have both. I have 5 1/2 acres to mow so I use my gas-powered zero-turn mower -- I don't believe the climate change claims are as drastic as they claim but I am not opposed to battery-powered equipment as long as it gets the job done. I have a battery-powered weed eater and hedge trimmer which do fine for what I need them for. I just want to have the option to buy whichever one I want.
I have a Honda HRN mower, a Kobalt 40 volt max with 5 ah battery and a Fiskars stay sharp mower.
My lot size is about 1/4 acre.
After 4years with the Kobalt I can't even finish the front yard on one battery where when it was new I complete both the front and back yards. This is my second Kobalt since the motor on my first one burned out after 2.5 years.
The Fiskars is a great manual reel mower, but when temps are over 80 it is an exhausting chore, not to mention that reel mowers generally cannot knock down grass taller than 7 inches. More frequent mowing is required with the Fiskars to make this a viable option in peak growing season and definitely can't be 7sed for any kind of cleanup.
The Honda is my reliable favorite since as long as I keep up on the maintenance and don't abuse it by not checking for latrge twigs and rocks or leaving it out in the weather.
I checked a few Lowes stores for a new battery for the Kobalt but have yet to find a store that has them in stock. Replacement batteries for the Kobalt, last time I've checked were $199.00 which is half the price of what I paid for the mower with a battery.
Fact is that every mower type has pros and cons and it really depends on what someone prefers.
To say that a battery powered mower is better for the environment is nothing but a government lie. The mining for the minerals needed to produce these batteries is a lot more disruptive to the environment than drilling for oil.
I switched to Electric lawn equipment 2 yrs ago. I love it. I got the Skil Mower, Trimmer & Blower. Just could not afford to go EGO as much as I would have liked too but I have tight budget. Been great. But I have small yard. There is a place for both Electric and gas. What Really surprises me is that Honda has not jumped on the electric lawn equipment band wagon and just offer both. All the big box stores still need to offer both types. At least for next 5 to 10 years until prices on Electric power equipment for larger land owners can come down.
I know this is different than a battery mower but when I was a teen in Florida I had to use a corded electric mower and it sucked and so ever since then I either bought a gas one or I got gas ones for free. I have a gas toro mower that's over 20 years old and it still runs great.
Not good for those of us with 5+ acres that need mowing/weed whacking. I'll be stocking up on old gas implements to keep me going through retirement. Electric would be great for a small urban yard, but those of us in the suburbs need more. It's kind of like electric cars are great for putting around town and under your 200 mile limit, but they aren't good if you need to get across country. Until battery technology gets to where I can get my work done without having to charge 25+ batteries, we have to continue to support gasoline powered implements.
We're moving away from fossil fuels, so this isn't really surprising. Things change over time - and not always in the way we prefer. We have to adapt. I bought a Honda gas mower (from Home Depot!) when I bought my house. It worked great, but after about 2 years of spending ridiculous amounts of time and money mowing, watering, fertilizing, trimming, aerating , thatching, and repairing an essentially useless and boring lawn, I decided I could do better. Re-landscaped the yard with trees, boulders, pathways, hardscaping, and interesting trees and shrubs. Way less maintenance, way less water, and it's by far the best yard in the neighborhood. Kept a small 12x12 patch of lawn to enjoy. I'm not hosting football games in my yard, so it's plenty. Gave the Honda to my brother, and bought a high-quality mechanical push mower. It's awesome. Cuts better than the Honda, makes almost zero noise, has no plastic parts to break or wear out, and requires no destructive fuel or toxic, wasteful batteries. Lawn = yawn LOL!
I plow through my lawn with my gas powered Honda- my neighbors break there’s up with battery recharge breaks 😆
They are correct in terms of CO and NOx... but gas are still required for the Pros. Which just goes to show that the Box Stores are going more DIY and they really aren't stores for Pros at all.
On my 7th season with my Ryobi 40 volt mower and it has performed flawlessly.
For my home on a 1 acre lot I switched over to the dewalt mower and trimmer and i love it. After the winter i just put in a battery and go easy to store and arizona summers are hot and i can mow and weed wack at night and nobody complains
Great Vid !
I love my 48v 20" Greenworks E-Mower, 24v String trimmer n 24v Hedge trimmer.
Only da mower needed more than 1 set, of Bat-trays. But since it has a 2x 24v Bat-treys config. I can swap in the 2x24v others.
2 decades old G-mowers died n I made the switch a yr+ ago.
I even have a 40v Greenworks Snow thrower, too.
No probs !
Except a hidden wire in my neighbord fence hedge, bent my 1st hedge trimmer.
Greenworks replaced the entire trimmer.
Kinda Nice ! 😅😂
I have an Exmark commercial zero turn mower that I bought over 20 years ago slightly used. I wouldn't trade it for a new electric version that probably would not last 5 years. That said, I had a honda push mower that I had for well over 20 years. I only used it for minor trimming and decided to sell it and get a very small electric mower for that purpose. I bought a Reeeobi 13" 18 volt version and love it. I have also converted my blower, string trimmer, and hedge trimmer to Milwaukiiia. Great tools. Both gas and electric still have their place. Oh, I have a gas powered honda snow blower that I would never trade for an electric.
When it comes to Electric I don't mind having lawn equipment just because you don't get the smell on your clothing of gas and you just don't get as dirty. But when it comes to electric vehicles that's a totally different thing altogether but I would like to know how much of effect adding all this extra electric to a failing power grid system that can't even handle air conditioners in your home without blackouts is this just going to add to the problem.🙏👍
This is my wheel house I use both battery and gas commercially. I went all out with electric 2019-22 because I started seeing the way things were going and there was even a ban on gas blowers during the spring and summer in my area. It was very expensive to switch over and I felt that once I did there was no real support from anyone, local government, all the customers who I thought wanted this service. In the end it was a massive expense to me with little return, I’m not sure what I was expecting I don’t think just because you switch to electric people should start throwing money at you but on the contrary people would not pay a cent more for electric service that they supposedly wanted so badly and it seems to be the focus of every headline, I really think they just want to complain they don’t really want to solve problems.
I'm not interested in a battery mower to mow multiple acres. They keep pushing all this battery shit but who can afford the extra on the power bill, battery car, battery mower, battery weedeater, Jesus christ
Just bought a 1 time used honda mower for $360 yesterday. It looks brand new and the bag hasn't been used either. Living in California we have rolling blackouts and weeks and times we can't use electricity. Last summer they told people with electric cars not to charge them. Im glad i got one.
I have a somewhat large yard and do all my lawn care with Milwaukee M18 equipment. But they burn through batteries real fast. I’m fortunate that I have lots and lots of M18 batteries but the average homeowner isn’t going to have a $1000 worth of batteries on hand. They’re going to have to quick charge in rotation but their lawn tools will chew through batteries faster than the chargers can charge. I can’t imagine what people with large plots of land or professional landscapers are going to have to deal with.
I bought a Ryobi self propelled mower and it’s great. My friend it and wants one also. Easy to use, came with 2 batteries. $500
Was up at your neighborhood Home Depot in Austintown last week, and couldn’t help but notice that there were only 4 gas powered mowers on display. The rest of the dozen + on display were all battery powered.
I have a really small yard so battery works for me i have a little cheap greenworks mower and it fires up fine every year havent had to replace a battry yet.
I have everything battery besides my riding mower. Cheapest electric riding mower I have found is about $5,000 compared to my gas which was $2500. There isn't much maintenance on my riding mower. After 3 years I replaced the carb, air filter and spark plug which was only $50.
I know this announcement is gonna ruffle a lot of feathers and as an automotive technician who loves ICE but uses cordless outdoor power equipment, I am honestly unsure how I feel about this. Growing up I had to cut my parents yard which was over an acre with a 21” push mower, not even self propelled! Then I got a hand me down Craftsman self propelled mower and loved it. Then I got a hand me down Montgomery Ward lawn tractor (this was in the late 90s) and it was literally one of the best days of my pre adult life. From that point on I had always dreamed of having a yard big enough to require an awesome ICE powered lawn tractor. Ideally one with a V twin engine because two cylinders are always better then one! However having used my cordless stuff on my admittedly very small yard, I’m not sure if I would still get an ICE lawn tractor if I could and had the need. I know a lot of people are gonna feel like this is being forced on them and, well it is. For better or worse if things like this aren’t forced then progress will never happen or happen at a glacial pace. I’m not advocating that this is what I want or that I think it’s right but I do understand the reasons even if I don’t agree with them. Honestly I’m extremely conflicted about this because you never get something for nothing. Removing ICE powered lawn equipment will remove the pollution they generate while running, but it’s adding pollution in the form of battery manufacturing that the ICE equipment didn’t have. I wonder if the cradle to grave pollution of ICE versus battery is actually all that different. Sadly I think I’ll never know for sure.
Stick with mechanics because the climate isn't your strong suit.
@@Deploracle 😂😂 lol that’s legit funny! I guess I’m missing context or something because regardless of what I do or don’t know about the climate, there’s absolutely no way for you to know what is or is not a strong suit of mine. So the fact that you made that comment, regardless of its intent, literally did make me laugh out loud the first few times I read it. Thank you for putting a smile on my face!
@@2down4up Actually dude (assuming your gender, sorry) that short response I gave you was way out of line for me. Apologies. It's no excuse I know but I was coming from a long back and forth on another channel about climate when I saw your comment here.
It was poor form.
I have a few corded devices for yard work, a trimmer and a dethatcher ... and compared to the effort it took to keep my old FPV drone batteries ready for use ... getting a 100' extension cord out was quite a bit easier and faster.
Did you have corded yard equipment before you bought the battery devices? If so what was it that made you switch?
They don't care about the long term that they say they do. Significant progress was and has been made in recent years in the efficiency of ICE powered vehicles and tools (as a mechanic you know this first hand). If they were really concerned about the climate they would allow the organic improvements rather than the artificial push for progress that benefits some over others. No, we will never run out of "fossil fuels" and no they are not nearly as bad for the planet as they say. When the govt gets involved in anything they muck it up. Every. Single. Time. Probably all the dual citizens in the government with their conflicting interests.
@@sixoh_diesel5662 "Probably all the dual citizens in the government with their conflicting interests." Bingo!
I enjoy using my Milwaukee electric lawn mower,it has lots of power and the battery lasts for three cuts of my front and back lawn each. My lawn is around 1/3rd an acre.
Have Ryobi trimmer and blower 40v works great!!! My gas blower and gas trimmer sit idle now. However i bought a gas powered cub cadet 30hh a couple years ago and love it because i have a heart condition. I still need to run my 1985 sears gas mower to get those areas that the riding mower cannot. I'm not getting electric mowers at my age. I'm happy with my stuff.
What happens if your mower hits a pipe or something and bends the shaft? On a gasoline mower you can replace the shaft. An electric you'll probably go buy a new mower because you'll pay that much or more for a replacement motor.
To go back to the same problem they've always had, the power grid cannot support everything going electric in 10 years. They've already had to ask people to NOT charge there cars at times because the grid didn't have the capacity. Logic and common sense says we can't do it now. Probably not 20 years from now either because they aren't beefing up the grid fast enough.
I went Milwaukee quck lok and was have all the attachments minus the brooms and the brush cutter because I have a gas one that is still rocking
I and old skool and love the gas stuff . Yet for the smaller lots and moms house 😅 the battery does better than I expected. Hedge trimmer attachment payed for itself the first day. As my stihl pole saw sat in the trailer waiting to be used . Yet never did
I personally have EGO products for my lawn/ snow removal ect. But this electric stuff can go too far. If gas units for lawn maintenance go away, you can expect your pricing for electric items to SKYROCKET. It's a GUARANTEE. Like anything else, market share predicts pricing. So in my humble opinion, it's a TERRIBLE thing for ALL consumers. God Bless
Honestly it will probably get cheaper. That’s the good thing about technology. Look at TVs for example. And these company’s will have to compete with each other.
EV's cars are already pushing electricity bills up enough that they are now showing that even with some parts being different no oil etc for EV's that the cost of ownership is about the same. I expect in a year the price of EV's will be more expensive. Some manufacturers are trying to move away from Cobalt in the Car EV market because of the slave and child labor used in all cobalt mines in the Congo. They are trying to switch to lithium. I think Tesla already switched. But because of that they are expecting a lithium shortage no later than 2030.
It’s gonna be down the road but I bet they’ll move us to subscription fees for our battery usage and charging for cars and home tools. Our government is bought out by these companies and they’ll do whatever these companies want $$$.
@@ajgreen868 The tool will indeed get cheaper, cheaper to produce with cheap motors, cheap circuit boards, cheaper build construction overall which will force you to replace the entire tool more often. It just wont get cheaper for the consumer and add to that headache the curve ball battery availability or what if the come out with a new battery system altogether? I get that many of the brands have kept the same configuration for several years now, but that's also a point where the companies can force you to buy an entire new set of outdoor tools since you can no longer buy that particular battery. Outdoor power tools don't have the same level of commitment to longevity as construction tools in the bean counters eyes in these companies (Dewalt/Makita/Milwaukee/Ryobi) since lawn care is not their bread & butter.
@@edreeves3342 that’s why you have to give it time. Hand power tools have been out for 30 years.
It's all about control
The place I see the biggest problem is for commercial landscaping equipment. Yes with the right equipment the power is there but charging batteries all day while driving from customer to customer as well as the overall replacement cost of batteries is almost unaffordable. Some towns/counties n eventually states(depending on your elected officials) are going to outlaw gas outdoor tools. It's already happened not far from me.
I thought about this. I think that landscapers are going to need to carry a large solar generator like an EcoFlow or Jackery, either plugged into the cigarette lighter port of the vehicle or solar panels on the roof, to keep it topped off. And have their tool battery chargers plugged into the solar generator. That way they can keep their batteries in constant rotation.
I prefer battery for the many reasons you listed.... But what happens when we run out of lithium???????
I have a battery push mower, leaf blower, weed eater, 2 stage snow blower and a gas riding mower and I'm looking looking for a Zero turn currently. I don't know if I should wait a bit for the battery powered to drop in price or go with gas. I'm just shy of an acre. I feel every model of battery rinding mowers are about $1200 + over priced. I almost bought a gas Toro Zero turn, but I like the idea of battery power and no belts.
This is great! Hoping I can score a cheap honda gas mower at a garage sale soon. I really like the variable blade speed with a gas riding mower; same with chain speed on a gas chainsaw.
I have owned a 18V Ryobi (not reeyobee) 16" lawn mower for several years, and even though I really like it it does make noise. Way quieter than a gas powered one , YES, but it has serious limitations. You have to mow a dry lawn! I have a fairly small lawn and using 2 4MAH batteries starting with 4 bars it eats up 2 bars on each battery.( And I just installed a new blade which made a small difference.) That is when the grass is dry which is how I have to wait for in order to mow. The other day one of my neighbors was mowing his lawn with his noisy gas powered mower and it started to rain and he kept on going right thru it, I could never do that with my mower. I always hated gas powered mowers and always use corded electric mowers before Bat Ray technology got better. Right now I am locked into the 18V technology as I have so many of these tools, hopefully they will come up with a more powerful version of my mower in the future.
Live in Washington state. Other than July and August, my lawn is wet all day long. Even with a gas mower it can bog down. For me electric would be useless. I do have battery string trimmer, pruner and small chainsaw, all DeWalt.
I have an Ego 56V Select and get 2 mows on one charge for a standard size lot.
I've been a homeowner for five years and the first thing I did was go out and buy a Honda Mower because I know I would get my money's worth out of it. I have a mix of Ego, and Ryobi for the smaller jobs. Just in five years since I bought the mower the battery technology has come a long way. Once the Honda buys the farm(which I hope exceeds 15 years) who knows what the tech is going to look like. Honestly though I'd be excited to try that Ryobi 30 inch push mower and cut some time down.
I am curious how the warranty repairs (and non-warranty) will be handled. With gas equipment, the stores either have in-house repairs offered, or they send it out to another company to be repaired.
With the battery powered mowers, the repair shop options are much smaller (at least for authorized centers). I am wondering if they will just exchange them for the customers rather than repairing them?
I used to work for a company that did 80% of all the repairs of any gas/electric tools over a $100 price-point for Home Depot. We did in-store pickup and delivery to over 1000 HD stores nationally. (We strived for a one week turnaround on all repairs, though we usually could never get the count above 85-87% on that)
It was a great business model for our company and theirs....Then we got a new president in that got greedy, and he went to sign Lowe's up for the same service deal....(He thought it was a great score, but we all know Blue and Orange do not play well together. - HD immediately opted to not renew our contract when they learned we were going to service Lowe's. HD generated over 300k repairs each year, while Lowe's was estimated to produce just under 200k per year. (HD had a bigger market share, and thus more repairs were needed) - Needless to say, that president was replaced within a couple of months of that happening.) - I have not been with that company for several years, so I am not sure if they are still doing Lowe's repairs, or if they ever got HD back....Hopefully, they recovered from the error and are still in business though.
I have been using a 36V B&D trimmer since 2013 and it still operates today with the same battery. Home Depot may be the only one talking about it but the writing is on the wall, all the major vendors will be moving in the same direction. I still have a Craftsman Honda equipped mower and purchased when the price was right a Greenworks 60volt top of the line 400$ delivered last year. Still have allot of time to buy a gas mower if that is your thing and properly maintained it will last 20+ years. Like I have said on other forums all your electronics once were run on tubes, change in the world is difficult for some but change is inevitable. Battery operated equipment has more then proven itself with power tools and the like. I Imagine battery tech getting hundreds of times better with everyone investing in the technology.
Just remember you have to build a separate area for your electric mower in case the battery catches fire or explodes. Costing your 5x or more what a gas mower would of cost you. Only slightly kidding but it is advised that battery powered equipment and even cars not be put in a flammable area or garage. Ford literally put out a press release to tell people not to park their Ford EV's in the garage.
People seem to have lost their grip on reality. I'm very serious.
Really it is very rare to happen
What is not said is how many metric tons of greenhouse gases will be produced in mining the contents of batteries, manufacturing them and generating power to charge these batteries!
That was said up front, ages ago, when you weren’t paying attention. We factored in the worst case scenario: Worst mining conditions, worst refining techniques, exclusively coal produced electricity, and batteries thrown in a landfill instead of being recycled. Gas powered everything still loses.
Damn that honda woulda sold if I woulda seen it. I love my hrx honda.
Honda makes so many engines for other mower companies. Makes me think they will still produce those engines for others just aren't going to sell them as honda mowers.
I have the top of the line Key start, self charging HRX217 and it IS the best mower in the world. THERE IS NO BETTER MOWER. It runs quiet, sips gas and is a joy to use. My last one was running perfect for 10 years unril it was stolen. This one has been GPS tagged 🔫
I love battery power tools and push lawnmower I have all RYOBI same battery fits all. lawnmower is so easy to use and quite especially no maintenance.
I just bought a Honda mower so I'll be good 25 years.😊
I bought a Honda mower from HD last year but really wanted a reel mower. The problem is there was no authorized dealer in my area capable of maintaining/repairing a reel mower.
Bruh I spent 1200 bucks on a commercial grade exmark 21 mower in 2005. I had stihl commercial weedeater and trimmer. Loved the power of my equipment. I went to a pawn shop and found a ego trimmer. I now have ego trimmer and weedeater. Your correct just as much power and in a word simple to use. I will be getting an ego mower next. The maintenance is the simplest reason for the switch plus ease of use. Grew up with gas equipment but time ta complete the set....
We’re on just short of an acre lot I’ve gone to corded electric string trimmer, pole saw, chainsaw, leaf blower, … 100’ reaches 90%+ of our lot. Batteries have limited capacity and life plus there expensive. I’m trying to avoid battery powered equipment even for my woodworking but am forced in many cases and I’m ordering a corded track saw as it is primarily a shop tool with a vacuum hose attached
I was considering a battery powered blower recently. I have a Stihl BR 700 and it works great. But if I’m just blowing off a deck, I don’t really want to smell like exhaust fumes. Just kind of hard to suck up the cost of a new blower when mine is working, AND when the battery unit is not as powerful as mine.
This is an area where electric has an issue. Try doing a large leaf job with battery power blower. A true replacement for backpack blower still doesn’t exist yet. Even if they had an option, it would probably require hundreds and hundreds of dollars worth of batteries to do what a couple bucks of gas and a good gas powered backpack blower can do. I would love to switch to electric but unfortunately for me it isn’t there yet.
@@exit0394Look into Kress commercial battery lawn equipment. Battery is already equal to some of the best gas options. Also, their batteries recharge in 8 minutes. Just passing info, not affiliated with Kress, but their stuff is good.
Look at the new EGO dual battery backpack blower. First one that has the power of a big commercial backpack gas blower. 800 CFM.
@@EnderlePropertyService I did actually. Mine has 912cfm and is 6 pounds lighter
Still like my gas Honda engine lawnmower! It start with one pull every time! Batteries are so expensive to replace, think about it guys, lithium is very bad for earth too! Majority of our electricity is come from coils currently!
Love using my Makita bat-ray mower! Super quiet and zero 2 cycle oil and gas stink like with my 33 y.o. Lawnboy. There are quite a few YT videos discussing problems with the most recent Honda mowers. I wonder if that's part of the reason Honda is getting out of gas mowers? Just thinking out loud here...
Love my 12 year old Honda gas mower. I also have an Ego 56v mover and it’s just ok.
Ego trimmer, blower, chainsaw are great
Honda announced discontinuation of gas mower production so old news
Gas is cheap. Replacement batteries are stupid expensive
It is silly to get rid of gas equipment. All my lawn equipment is electric and it suits me fine. But not everyone is the same and commercial lawn companies cannot afford switching everything to electric. Plus, when batteries start going bad or obsolete it will end up in landfills.
There is still a place for each.
My Lawn takes about an hour to mow.. any push mower I love my new dewalt 40v quite easy start and no gas😊
I needed a tablesaw for home projects, and I was between the Bosch corded tablesaw and the Milwaukee M18. I opted for the Milwaukee with two 12 amp hour batteries. It being a tablesaw, I didn’t get much use out of it. After about a year of not using it I needed it; both 12 amp hour batteries refused to charge. After spending around $900.00 (including saw) I now have something that no longer works. I did go to the Milwaukee store to ask if they could do anything for me; they said no. I should have bought the Bosch!
Take the batteries to a battery store. They can boost them for you with a special charger that conditions batteries. The reason they aren't charging is because the batteries have dropped below their nominal threshold and aren't being recognized by the charger. Also, it could be that the charger sees the ultra low voltage and defaults to bad, even though they may still be good.
I'll stick with my gas powered equipment
Ah heck, how about we all just go back to using reel mowers. Let's see how many here know what a reel mower is without googling it.
With age comes experience, including experience at being experienced. I am reminded of the beginning of digital cameras. Slow to start, accelerating capabilities compared to optical, and eventually the takeover was inevitable. I recall gating an early 1.2 megapixel camera very early. It cost about $1,200 over 20 years ago. No one thought the resolution needed to replace a quality optical camera was possible. It came pretty fast after that.
I see small gas engines getting there quickly. Right now, I use a lot of chain saws. I heat with wood in upstate New York. It gets cold, there is a lot of snow where I am, and I have about 40 acres of woods. Good hardwood. I have a couple of small, early, electric chain saws. I don’t think we are close to reproducing the power and endurance in a battery that I can get out of gasoline in a good chain saw soon.
But it feels like when I had the 1.2 MP camera right now. I think it’s soon. There will be a leap in battery technology and that will trigger a rapid shift.
I just stepped into the electric OPE, went with Milwakee. String trimmer, hedge trimmer attachment, edger attachment, and a handheld blower. was spendy in the 5-600 range with a 8ah battery on sale. I needed a new hedge trimmer, edger attachment, and wanted a blower. It works well and does the job, need a couple more batteries. However I would have gone Ridgid as that's the platform I'm on but hearing and seeing that the powerhead wasn't that powerful, I went red instead. Now if they come out with a stronger powerhead I would just get that to work with my ryobi gas attachments I would do that. I have a couple rebuild kits for the 4stroke ryobi I bought years ago that's still running strong. I will continue to run my gas as I do now.
Now my grandparents back in the 80's had a corded lawnmower, and I remember them using that for years.
For smaller jobs electric is the way to go, I’ve already replaced the battery on my 60v Snapper leaf blower that I bought originally for 100 bucks, I got an upgraded/higher capacity battery so it won’t cycle as often and theoretically last longer than the original battery, but it was over 300 bucks.
The original battery lasted two years before it started to degrade to the point where it is unusable for more than a few minutes off the charger.
That being said, I also do much larger properties where electric simply won’t cut it so I’ll never get rid of my gas powered equipment. I have also yet to see a leaf blower as powerful as some of the more powerful gas versions…
My current mower is 24yrs old and i have mever had a problem with it starting in the spring. I also think it should be consumer driven and not mandated.
It takes me three gallons of gas per year to maintain my suburban lawn. My neighbor is proud of his electric mower. It needs battery replacement every year burning a Benjamin and change. Plus he has to mow his front yard one day and his back another day because the battery reserve capacity will not complete the yard on a single charge. In the spring when it is wet and fast growing, I mow his grass with my Toro. All of these modern "environmentalists" forget the impact of manufacturing the battery, the impact of disposing the hazardous waste of the old battery, the Enviromental impact of power generation and system maintenance, as well as the labor time.
Have had an electric plug-in/battery mower for a long time because of the reliability… it starts up every year for years but it is under powered and in long grass it will shut down to cool off. Flip it over occasionally and clean out the bottom but other than that, and the occasional blade sharpening, they are nearly zero maintenance.
My biggest concern is the control. You pour gas in to a gas tool and pull yhe cord, whatever, it runs. With battery snd digital circuits, they are gonna include software that heavily restricts use depending on the version you buy. Ok fine, but what if you are forced into buying a service fee just to let you use it every month
idc here in my Country, we all do Zeroscape, havent owned/used a weedeater, lawn mower, blower, hedge scissors, edger... NONE of that crap since i fled the great frozen lakes of siberia in 02... SFMF
Everybody’s pushing electric equipment now where is all this electricity going to come from the electric companies keep raising the rates.I don’t see the rates going down and more draw on the grid. It doesn’t make a whole Lotta sense to go electric.
I still don’t see any Electric Private Jets or Electric Yachts. 🤨🤨🤨🤨
My opinion is there should always be options. I enjoy my kobalt 80v string trimmer but the first year the battery died after 10-12 uses. The batteries are over $150+ to replace depending on what amperage. It sucks that the technology is so unreliable. Being forced to purchase these and be locked into different battery styles sucks, bc year after year they will force you to upgrade to the newer style connectors, where with gas there is always 1 way to go that has been here for ages. Gas oil and regular maintenance and you are good, go right down the street and fill up instead of waiting days for an expensive replacement battery.
I would be cautious about assigning the issue to the technology and not the manufacturer. I have been using a 36v Makita self-propelled for four years and the original batteries that came with the purchase are still useable. I actually chose Makita ( Dewalt and Milwaukee do the same) because the batteries work across the entire line and that tends to make them cheaper than a proprietary format like most 40v/80v tools. The economies of scale and the versatility make it a better when you support a couple of hundred tools instead of just a handful. In addition you can find battery-included deals that really make this a worthwhile investment.
Being dubious about the longevity of batteries when I first started my Ryobi collection I marked the date of purchase on the batteries. My first 18V 4AH batteries were bought and marked 11/2014. Eight and a half years. Not too shabby.
40 acress to maintain... no amount of electric gimmick crap is changing my mind
I just had to replace my Ryobi not Reeobi battery on my expand it system weed whacker only after 4 or 5 years. Was I charging it the way they wanted me to? Probably not but idk who isn't going to let it sit in their garage on the charger till they use it next. I was lucky I found a 4ah battery (doubled my capacity) for $100 so it wasn't that big of a deal but some of these batteries cost $2-3-400 for these mowers. Then you have to find a place that will "recycle" them. Idk I still like gas on some things and Honda is a great engine with power that batteries can't match yet.
I NEVER BUY A ELECTRIC CAR ! Gas manual… I live in Louisiana Storms knock down the grid for 5 week plus …last storm I able to clean and cut my yard after the Hurricane ❤
I own some battery powered outdoor power equipment and it’s worked well for me; but as far as batteries go they should be limited to push mowers and other small outdoor power equipment like string trimmers and blowers. Everyone has a preference but I can’t justify a battery powered riding mower for my yard that I’ll get 10-15 years out of without replacing batteries a few times. And electric cars I have the same argument against but then again I live in the country and see no need for myself to own one. To each their own but I guess Honda has to either come out with a battery version like Stihl to stay in business or go under. That’s just my opinion; but well done on the video.