How much does a second hand luxury car REALLY cost? One year of daily driving.
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- čas přidán 11. 07. 2024
- We've all heard the phrase "nothing more expensive than a cheap luxury car", but is that really true?
After a full year of having our 1985 Jaguar XJ6 4.2 Sovereign on the road, we add up the costs. - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Good on you for proving that buying the right car, with a good service history, and driving it daily, can be a perfectly successful and pleasurable endeavour. I gave my parents my 1986 Daimler 4.2 seventeen years ago, and the car now has 227,000 miles and is running sweetly.
It's always good to hear of one of these big old girls serving a family faithfully for years!
Interesting video . Let me point out that the expression is "Nothing so expensive as a cheap Mercedes" as anybody buying a cheap 220se from the 60's will confirm . My car is now exactly 12 months in my ownership and it is a Series 3 V12 Daimler with just 25k on the clock and was used in Japan . I had to do a service and a cam gasket to stop an oil leak but in the 12 months of everyday driving , it has cost me nothing but fuel at 20mpg . It is still as new inside , bodywork is blemish free and its special Dayton chrome wire wheels are stunning . People think I have won the lottery when I turn up in it and on one occasion when we visited a National trust stately home , they guided us to the main front doors instead of the public car park as they thought we owned the place !! I picked my Daimler up for just £11,000 all import costs paid and I note there are a few of these series 3's on sale , all low mileage from Japan . The only draw back is the service history is in Japanese , and the speedometer is in KPH . But if you want to experience the magic of a virtualy brand new series 3 , with the doeskin interior in factory fresh condition, The Japanese imported cars are the way to go .
You can't beat on old Jag for cheap luxury. I daily drive my 2007 XK 4.2 V8 and it's been very reliable. It had taken us all over the UK and to Europe with no major problems at all and in such comfort!
Lovely choice sir .... huge Jag fan myself and daily drive a S-Type 2.5 v6 Sport for a few years. It’s been in the blood since I was born as dad was a Jaguar specialist mechanic at Wesley Turkington in Lurgan for many years.
The S-Type would make for an awesome daily, we've been contemplating one ourselves looking at the prices... Haven't bitten the bullet though!
I drove an xj40 just last week. I love it. I couldn't believe the car was built in 1990. It handled amazingly well. It had been more than 20 years since I drove a Jaguar. It was really nice.
There is nothing so expensive in the car world as being in a hurry. The faster you want something to happen, the more it costs. And any car is something of a lottery. If you get a good one, you're good. If you get a poor one, you'll be poor. Getting one with a meticulous service history is a great idea. Especially if it is a one or two owner car. And it is a Jaguar, so listen to the car, pay attention to it. When it sounds different or drives different, stop and figure out why. Whatever it is, even if it is expensive to fix, it will be a lot cheaper now than if you wait.
Brilliant car. I've got a 4 litre XJ40 XJ6 myself. I've also got a V6 X Type. Nice to see an EH Staffordshire reg no. On it too. Serviced at Evans Halshaw, sadly no longer there anymore. Absolutely love Jags.
Hahah yes, we have the full history of it from new, we tried to get in touch with Halshaw to see it doesn't exist sadly. Thanks for the comment :)
If you got as low as 8 mpg you want to check your fuel system. Mine I found out had been drawing petrol from one tank whilst returning to the other! causing it to overflow and dump fuel all over the road. The result was comically low fuel economy. I seen realised why soon after when I was flashed down for spewing petrol all over the road - haha
Funny we had that exact problem when we drove it home when we first bought it hahah! But no, it’s quite easy to get it that low when you’re smoking the back tyres ;)
A common problem due to the fuel tank switchover valve (intermittently) getting stuck. Had the same problem on my 1987 xj12
Good video. I had the same Jaguar XJ6 4.2 in metallic bleu, same year. Bought it second hand and drove it for 3 years and had zero costs on it. It was the best car I ever had ! It was a lot better than my Triumph Red TR6 injection .
I bought a 1981 Jaguar XJ12 for 2800 NZD and it cost me about 5000 to fix up
You did well. Just got to keep on top of the rust and keep the fluids fresh. They're mechanically solid if looked after, it's the rot that gets them. Grease is your friend.
I have a V12 XJS. It's great for the environments where it's happy, but you don't want to daily one of those. They are a bastard to drive in town because you sit so low and far back which makes a lot of junctions blind, as well as having the turning circle of the evergiven and the thirst of Concorde. Better off with the XJ6 for frequent use.
Hello Tomo,
Yes you will love it for a long time. I see in the intro you have a digital display. Can you tell me about it please?
Regards and keep safe.
Great result! I had the exact same spec and colour Jaguar Sovereign in the early 90s as my main car. Mine was very reliable too - only thing that gave trouble was the aircon, which luckily was fixed under warranty. XJ6 is one of my favourite cars - the Series 1 is even better!
Series 1 cars are gorgeous, but they're definitely mega money!
@@427Motorsports yes you're right - and not really viable as an everyday car.
Bought my 2000 E55 AMG estate for just under 4 grand and have been daily driving it (1000 miles a month) for a little over three years, other than fuel and tyres its only needed a CPS, plugs and leads. Mine is high mileage, its just clocked over 250,000 miles but for the first 16 years of it's life it was one owner and came with a full main dealer history so it's been looked after even though it looks tatty now. Luxo barges can be a good choice if you get the right one, mine is practical and fun, no-one expects a 20 year old estate car to have a sub 6 second 0-60. ;).
We have a lot of time for the W210! Nice choice!
@@427Motorsports It's averaging 21mpg and a set of rear tyres every year i should have mentioned but I don't drive it gently so that's mostly my fault.
Great video and great story. We have a '87 XJ6 Series 3...bought it years ago. Have had some repairs but its still a bargain and it runs great. It has about 175,000 miles on it and doesn't leak much oil. Had starter issues this past month but its just a fun car to drive and take care of. And I drove it 3,972 miles last year. I try to put at least 300 miles per month on it. I liked the video and I will follow you on Instagram. Thanks again. Look forward to watching more of you videos. I subscribed to your channel as well.
That is awesome, thank you very much! They deserve to be driven.
It's not that expensive. You just need to be a car person / good mechanic.
Don’t take me wrong I love my Jaguar I’ve got a 98 XJ8 and that it’s cost me far more I paid $5300 . I had to replace front dampener bushings and rear dampener bushings and I had to get the AC system charged
Beautiful car. I have a 1987 xj12 which I bought for 9000€ with a good service history. No rust. Replaced the injector hoses and coolant hoses preventively as these were more than 30 years old. It has proven to be reliable.
That’s awesome Bill - we’d love a 12. Although whether or not we could afford the difference in fuel is another thing 😂 Good call on the hoses and things though - far too many neglect this and then it’s the end of a classic :(
Hey my brother i am a Jaguar fanatic as well from Zimbabwe
I had a1985 sovereign and had a problem with tappet guides rising up from the head and hitting the cam shift breaking them up.I found much later you can get a hold down kit for this problem
That’s some extremely affordable classic car ownership! I had a sweaty gasket on my Alfa 156 GTA that was getting a bit too sweaty to my taste - that cost about as much as your entire car and maintenance.
I ve had 2 s3 4.2's ...one manual and one auto paid £425 for the auto back in 2003, kept that 9mths sold it for £700, and the manual (proper drivers car that one) £450 back in 2005 kept that for nearly 3 years but g/box blew as I didn't service it (no oil) had it re built was never the same got £900 for that one both were daily and reliable drivers , thanks for sharing
Hahah yes that's the type of money they would've been when my family had them when I was growing up. They don't believe me now when I keep telling them the value of them these days!
@@427Motorsports I know wish I'd had the space to keep them all , I had a Daimler sovereign 420 1967 , sold it for £5800 back in 2007 , was advertised for £13000 a few weeks later ! ...yes could of been a nice little earner stored and kept in good condition
Nice I got myself a 1995 xj6 and I love it, I got mine for free and the only things I’ve fixed so far is the Egr valve replacement and while I was under there I got some family to help me replace the spark plugs and the ignition coils. She runs better than my neighbors 2011 bmw 🤣 and next on my list is the ac compressor
I’m lucky as well because where I live rust is nonexistent on anything that isn’t from the 60’s
I drive EV daily but I want a hobby car, strictly 78 xj with automatic transmission and 4.2. I rely on my electric, welding/3d cad design and print skills :)
I've been told it's an easy step up from an old Ford Granada.
Let me know if you want to sell it?
Great video. I've got an 86 XJ6 Sovereign. I love it. I still have to fix the parking break and had to replace a lot of the fuel system (fuel tanks, pump, and valves). I'm in the middle of changing out the fuel injection system to triple SU carb set up; I grew up with old English cars, and I prefer antiquated carbs to an antiquated fuel injection system.
Parking brakes must be a recurring theme on them! Not heard of someone changing it back to carb before, that's definitely interesting - good on you for keeping these alive :) Thanks for the comment!
That was fun, Thanks Tomo. Now, tell us how much you've spent on fuel (and insurance or did I miss that?).
How much longer do you think you'll run it?
Unfortunately we had to sell this due to covid and it upsets us every day. We'd buy it back in a heartbeat if we could. It was a fantastic car that never let us down.
I have the same one just on project now hopefully it will be on the road soon( where do you get your parts if you want one?
Honestly just have to hunt around eBay!
I have a clean, garage-kept '84 with 70K on it, but unfortunately it's been sitting in the same spot in my shop that I parked it in ten years ago. It ran fine and everything worked, I was 'just' going to replace all the suspension rubber and do a 60K service on it. Umm, maybe tomorrow. Yeah, tomorrow.
Someday never comes, as they say! We know all about that 😂 but hey at least it’s garage kept. Best place for a long term solution :)
They did a 3.4 Series III as well. I know because I had one 30 years ago ;-) You did well to get that for £1500, I paid a grand for mine when it was 11 years old & not in the best of health. In fact yours looks in better nick than the one I had lol.
Was the 3.4 available as a Sovereign though? Not sure!
Thank you hahah, think it was pot luck really!!
@@427Motorsports good point, no I don't think the 3.4 was available as a Sovereign. It was a '79 so one of the first Series III. It also must've been a poverty spec one as it had cloth seats lol. But I was 23 at the time & loved it :-)
That would make sense if it wasn’t in the best of health... pre privatisation of Jaguar. Also I’m 23 too! Hahah
@@427Motorsports yes mine was made when British Leyland owned Jaguar, not their finest hour lol. Enjoy the car mate, she's a beauty 👍
Look Forward to More Jaguar Videos!!!!
Once the world situation allows us to get back together again we have plans for it :)
Lucky man! I have seen series on YT about this with endless problems. Severe problems (head gaskets, cracked heads, etc.).
Oof, that's not good. Mind you, sometimes you can hit it lucky - just as you can hit it very very unlucky!
The most important thing to look after at a Jaguar are the cooling system. Flush it and replace the cooling floid each year if you want to avoid cracked or warped heads.
@@kasperkjrsgaard1447 That's a very good call... This one is due one in that case! Thanks for the comment :)
i have an 82 xj6, but i just couldnt drive it daily, not because of cost or practicality. I just dont want to deal with all the rust issues that would be inevitable. If you like the xj and want it too last...well i think your brave anyway
There’s nothing that can’t be fixed with enough love.
And underseal. Lots of underseal.
Hello mate, this car is a beauty. She's definitely a keeper. If you ever have to rehouse her, give me a shout.👍🏻👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Cheers Liam! Sadly she’s been passed on now, miss it a lot but needed the money to finish my other project. Needs must!
@@427Motorsports thats a shame, hopefully the new owners going to take care of her. If you like jags, Google " xcessive manufactoring xj6" she's a 430 bhp monster. Mine is ripe to do that to, but your old one should be kept in original condition. What your new project? Always interested in other peoples projects.
Hahah it’s more like a list of projects for us! This was sold specifically for our 1984 Golf Mk2 restoration, but we also have a 60s Mercedes Fintail, a Subaru, and many other weird and wonderful things!
@@427Motorsports hello mate, them old golfs come up nice. A bloke I worked with back in 95 had a mk2 16valve. Went like a rocket.
@@427Motorsports hello mate, I bought one the other month. Its nearly a runner, but it has no need for welding. I'l keep you posted on its progress👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
No servicing costs?
Thats a hood XJ6 very very nice & steel standing
If you are thinking about buying a Jaguar as a luxury car be careful what you buy. First of all ask yourself what is a luxury car. Not all people think a V6, V8 and especially a V12 models are what makes a luxury car. Some people might however have the extra money to buy one of these faster models, and even maintain one, but if you are really looking for the best value for money, then make a fool of your self and pay top dollar for the most practical model with good history. The models which will have the straight 6 engine. The series 3 has a terrific rear end but changing the disc rotors might be harder than you think. The XJ40 & X300 have a simpler rear end. The sports and R models in the X300 range will have a much firmer ride, and if they are a super charged model, then they will be more expensive and difficult to work on. My very first car was a Jaguar in the 70's and I love them but so many guys in my life time I have come across who buy them, often finish up giving up on them, because they bite off more than they can chew. If speed and performance is your priority then that is the car for you. But if it is true luxury, comfort and value for money then be careful which model you go for. I have owned a X300 for about 7 years and it is true luxury, and is a gem of a car. But I paid about twice the price of the usual bargain prices, and egnored all the other faster and more popular sports models, to get a good car with full log books and very low milage. This car will way out live me and will never have rust problems because of it's past, and the climate it is used and maintained in. The best bargain Jaguar cars I have owned, have been then ones I paid the most for, and the ones that had a very good history. Good luck. And If you get a good one you will never look back.
List price, What Car, June 86
XJ6 3.4 £15995, 4.2 £16995
Sovereign 4.2 £20795, 5.3 £23795
Daimler 4.2 £25195, 5.3 £28195
XJS 3.6 £20395, 5.3 £24995, both available as cabriolet, +£2000
IMHO, you should not include the purchase cost of the car,that should be amortised over the period you own it, however, you should include the cost of fuel. So how much was that?
This was to be the first year, we included the grand total just to let people know what the whole thing cost. To be honest with you I didn't know if I'd be keeping it for a full year when I first got it... so I never kept track of fuel.
However, I was able to hit as high as 25+MPG on a run, and realistically fuel costs come down to whoever is driving it.
Thanks for your comment, appreciate it! :)
To be fair, on almost any new car, the depreciation is the largest cost per year. a new 3 series may cost £35,000 now but in a year it’ll have lost £6-7k. Even including excessive fuel costs and questionable reliability, your still better off with something old and interesting 👍
I have a 2008. Xj8
Miss my jag 😥
We miss ours too... we just sold it!
It is better to drive an old car than let them sit.
The non period numberplate font 🙀
Haha, that was on it when we got it! I think when it got a load of work done by Evans Halshaw in 1998 they put new plates on it too.
@@427Motorsports excellent video/story btw
Sob...seeing this makes me ashamed I sold mine years ago
Your's a beautiful car, BUT mine, has the steering wheel on the (other), CORRECT side.!!!
( Kidding ).!!!
As it’s a British car, we’d beg to differ. ;)
Tyres, Batteries ,Registration,Insurance Oil , Fuel ,servicing ect is a cost on any car. Luxury or not. Don’t let a car lay around unused….it’s really bad for the car, then buys one that sat for 16 years with hardly any issues. 🤔
At least fix the exhaust and then you have the cost for one year.
When you show heaps of history, you can tally all that up and tell us exactly what it has co$t, because some is routine service and others are repairs. Or go the whole hog and let us know what 'getting it up to scratch means', what else isn't working but still driveable.
Seems it was garaged before, so the only rust when you got it was from wet shoes on floor inside. Now it's getting parked outside, you can report in ten years the cost of full bodywork on those things.
The exhaust was fixed, £40.
That history is from two owners since 1985. This video is talking about since I have owned it. Yes it was looked after, but, this video is about buying a cheap luxury car. This car would not have been cheap during their ownership - it had only now depreciated to the point of cheap.
Up to scratch just meant those things that were fixed and mentioned in the video, and cleaning it - literally nothing else had to be done. Everything works.
If nobody has swapped it for an XJS by then, we’ll come back in 10 years, and hopefully it’ll be the same story!
Thanks for the comment :)
@@427Motorsports no probs, enjoy it. Don't get me wrong, I'm a classic car lover and forever fixing things on my collection. If it's only about reliability, I have a Mitsubishi 4x4 I've put 385'000 km on with nothing failing yet except an oil pressure sensor. Hope u get many more miles from the Jag or get your dream xjs
KOOL I JAST GAT 1 BAT I CANT DONT NOU HOU TO TRON OF THE ALARM DON'T NOU NATIIN A VAUDIT MY IS A 1992 XJA6 MAGACT. .IT WONT GO OVOR 10 MPH.IT GATS A PO.PO.PO.INSUND .LIK .THE FULL PAMP IS BAD .IN I NED A GASTANK. .YOU GAT 1 FORSAL .I CANT FIND 1 HERE.