Defend and Disarm a Stick Attack

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  • Ed from Metrolina Martial Arts shows me the basic way to defend against a stick in self defense, but also shows me a super slick disarming technique that makes you feel like some kind of kung fu master. Go subscribe to him at / @metrolinamartialarts
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  • @hard2hurt
    @hard2hurt  Před 2 lety +40

    Go subscribe to Ed at Metrolina Martial Arts: czcams.com/channels/qUADiQ8w4aqL1HUJO5zgtg.html

    • @etherealicer
      @etherealicer Před 2 lety +1

      I find it really sad that I never see the guy with the stick doing something other than a wild swing (I understand that this is the most common attack by an untrained fighter).
      Stick for self defense? No, but what about an umbrella? Or a walking stick. And I know you don't like sticks, but maybe it's just because you don't know how to use it. I recommend a single move to learn (and an easy one at that). The stop-thrust:
      - Assailant is coming at you, you step backwards (fencing style, so it is almost running backwards, quick small steps)
      - You stop and thrust at the sternum
      It hurts and I have seen guys in padded armor (HEMA armor) go down from this. Pretty sure you can figure this out, it is simple. Btw, this also works with your beloved flashlight, just a lot shorter reach.

    • @etherealicer
      @etherealicer Před 2 lety

      Btw, that technique would be even more difficult to implement against someone who doesn't extend the arm during the strike, but curls it*. It is how I learned it. It decreases the range but increases control and protection (both important if you fight stick on stick), for range we use the thrust as it is both fast and has a lot more reach than even a fully extended swing.
      * We call it cutting, as the stick (sword) makes a cutting motion.

    • @martialartsunlimited01
      @martialartsunlimited01 Před 2 lety +1

      @@etherealicer that is true, yet the person with that type of swing and control also isn't likely the one going out there and hitting people with sticks. It's that drunk or passed off guy that is and would most likely have that larger swing.

    • @magnumopusjkd6657
      @magnumopusjkd6657 Před 2 lety

      I love it. My argument for the Filipino martial arts is 2 fold that 1. No I probably don’t always have a stick handy but possibly a baton if it’s legal where you live to carry one and 2. A lot of those drills and techniques can be translated to a blade which most people have access to. Most people I know carry a pocket knife everywhere they go.

    • @etherealicer
      @etherealicer Před 2 lety

      @@magnumopusjkd6657 Do you learn thrusts with your sticks/batons? I think that is the most important technique for knives.

  • @largocharles8729
    @largocharles8729 Před 2 lety +373

    The disappointment on mike's face when the stick just get thrown effortlessly even if he tries to hold into it tight is hilarious

    • @rooroo9216
      @rooroo9216 Před 2 lety +4

      I loved it at 5:19 where Mike is doing just that and he’s like “huuurrrggghhh!!! Thumb energyyyyyyyyy!!!!” *stick drops “thumb energy didn’t work….😒” 😂😂 lol it’s just brilliant!

    • @largocharles8729
      @largocharles8729 Před 2 lety +5

      @@rooroo9216 he giving it his all but it still doesnt work, he even stood there thinking "why???"

    • @CancerArpegius
      @CancerArpegius Před 11 měsíci

      He understands "the hand isn't made to hold things well"

  • @martialartsunlimited01
    @martialartsunlimited01 Před 2 lety +492

    I love how Ed gets the disarm and Mike looks like no way, grabs the stick to do it again and again and again. Great video Mike.

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  Před 2 lety +170

      its almost like he's practiced that or something

    • @seansnyder2855
      @seansnyder2855 Před 2 lety +16

      This just looks ABSURD. Love it.

    • @kinauki5265
      @kinauki5265 Před 2 lety +4

      The leverage, nice.

    • @kennethlancaster6868
      @kennethlancaster6868 Před 2 lety +10

      That exact thing happens every day at the gym I go to lol . Bull shit ..... Do it again but slower ..... Slower .... Mind equals blown

    • @nickwilliams8302
      @nickwilliams8302 Před 2 lety +11

      You know what I like about this disarm?
      It disarms while removing the weapon (in the immediate sense at least) from the fight, rather than ending the disarm with you in possession of the weapon. This can be crucial when it comes to demonstrating that you acted in self-defence.
      If there is a point in the fight where _you_ are armed and your opponent is not, then that fight is going to be a lot harder to sell as defensive. Not impossible. But it creates problems.

  • @bengarbutt6497
    @bengarbutt6497 Před 2 lety +67

    As soon as he did the stick disarm you could see Mike focus right in, he wanted that forbidden knowledge.

  • @Necrosythe2
    @Necrosythe2 Před 2 lety +73

    Mikes face when he tried to keep the stick in his hand and it still came right out is the funniest shit ever

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  Před 2 lety +37

      Dude got me a couple times.

  • @licittofficial
    @licittofficial Před 2 lety +230

    My dad always had an axe handle incase he needed it in a fight. He always said "never swing for their head, they always see it coming, theyll grab it. Feint, then crack the knee as hard as you can, i dont care how big the mf is, they aint getting up after that"

    • @hourglas
      @hourglas Před 2 lety +38

      Yes. Feint high, hit low works amazingly well. Especially if they're still trying to process someone approaching them with a stick. People rarely expect a feint outside of hand to hand.

    • @rocelderamos3013
      @rocelderamos3013 Před 2 lety +13

      That's why in FMA they call it (from upper right to lower left) the number 1 attack 😂 bec. it's such a common attack for any right-handed person armed with a long object.

    • @allstarwoo4
      @allstarwoo4 Před 2 lety +11

      I can remember losing feeling in my knee just from hearing that.

    • @blackwingdragonmasta
      @blackwingdragonmasta Před 2 lety +20

      Fake high go low amd vice verse is one of the most basic yet underappreciated aspects of fighting. It's something that is present in all martial arts whether it's striking or grappling.

    • @revolvertaco7493
      @revolvertaco7493 Před 2 lety +3

      Good advice.

  • @Pikepaw
    @Pikepaw Před 2 lety +95

    As much as my favourite combo is IcyMike and Sensei Seth, I really do appreciate the recent videos bringing in a wide variety of experienced guys in different combat areas. Martial arts is best when we reach out and share our knowledge. Also even if not entirely realistic, I do think stick fighting is just really cool and looks awesome.

    • @jc-kj8yc
      @jc-kj8yc Před 2 lety +2

      It's also incredibly fun!

    • @Pikepaw
      @Pikepaw Před 2 lety +3

      @@jc-kj8yc exactly and the reason we stick with martial arts most often is because we are having fun.

    • @jc-kj8yc
      @jc-kj8yc Před 2 lety +2

      @@Pikepaw hehe, stick with it, hehe

    • @martialartsunlimited01
      @martialartsunlimited01 Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah, I need to bribe him into having me in a video

  • @Reubengotgame
    @Reubengotgame Před 2 lety +62

    There's something about understanding how gross motor movements work that comes from a guy with missing fingers. I love it!

    • @metrolinamartialarts
      @metrolinamartialarts Před 2 lety +18

      If it works lol

    • @malkomalkavian
      @malkomalkavian Před 2 lety +16

      Purely asking for information, and if it is none of my business then I understand, forget I asked. But what is the situation with your fingers, Sir? Is that from fighting?

    • @metrolinamartialarts
      @metrolinamartialarts Před 2 lety +25

      @@malkomalkavian I was in an electrical accident 30 years ago

    • @malkomalkavian
      @malkomalkavian Před 2 lety +11

      Thank you for indulging my curiosity, carry on :)

    • @kevinready3948
      @kevinready3948 Před 2 lety +30

      Holy crap..... This dude is so good I didn't even realize he was missing finger until you pointed it out. Unreal

  • @sharpshooter9407
    @sharpshooter9407 Před 2 lety +198

    I've done stick sparring before (FMA practitioner for 10+ years). That "circling bullshit" that Ed does absolutely can work.
    Not that it'd reliably work, but I've had it done to me and did it myself. Felt real cool everytime I got it done.
    And you're right about the more esoteric, fine motor movements too. They're a whole lot harder to land and they hurt like hell if you mess them up

    • @metrolinamartialarts
      @metrolinamartialarts Před 2 lety +12

      100% agree. I still train them, but I'm Def not doing them in self-defense

    • @atomic_wait
      @atomic_wait Před 2 lety +14

      There are some similar disarms in Fiore's longsword manuscripts from centuries ago. The wrist can only rotate so far, so you just keep cranking the weapon until it pops out!

    • @thomasgross8289
      @thomasgross8289 Před 2 lety

      Duel sticks and the bo staff hands down are my favorite weapons. Well ok the katana for the cool factor, but the before mentioned weapons I'm confident in thier use.
      Almost any technique CAN work lol that's why they call it fighting not winning. But I was joking, in a conflict I'm not going to break into some hair brained idea...probably.

    • @RebuildingSaad
      @RebuildingSaad Před 2 lety +1

      @@atomic_wait ngl that's pretty cool

    • @gskate117
      @gskate117 Před 2 lety +1

      I feel like that shit works on drunk people

  • @humorlessclown
    @humorlessclown Před 2 lety +28

    Mike’s face when he realizes he looks kinda like the old man doing Tai Chi in the park after he lands that disarm is fucking priceless 😆

    • @grayalun
      @grayalun Před 2 lety +5

      It is stuff like this that makes you question how many movements in Kata, Tul or Forms have similar applications but they have been lost misinterpreted or just taught wrong over the years.
      Ramsey Dewey has been looking at similar stuff on his channel and even simple stuff like the low block movement from Karate, Taekwondo and other similar arts his friend who is a wrestler said that's for stripping grips.

    • @humorlessclown
      @humorlessclown Před 2 lety +3

      @@grayalun - Agreed. People like to talk about how kata training or traditional Chinese kung fu has unnecessary movement for training and can be next to useless but fail to ponder the “Whisper Down the Alley” effect that may have happened. How it’s probably eastern martial arts version of shadow boxing so to speak and it was better to try and advance muscle memory with it then do nothing at all. But like you said, the misinterpretation does hurt but what can you do when people don’t clearly write the instructions down 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @VlogCandyMinus
      @VlogCandyMinus Před 2 lety +2

      ​@@grayalun I just watched that video! The one with Jesse Enkamp!

  • @ryanoneill6481
    @ryanoneill6481 Před měsícem +1

    Ed has such an elegant way of explaining things. Very polite and well spoken.

  • @DeezyP
    @DeezyP Před 2 lety +30

    Just can't get enough of H2H and Icy Mike!

  • @2rustysporks
    @2rustysporks Před 2 lety +22

    The videos that come out of these meet-ups with other channels have been awesome.
    Thank you all for these :)

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  Před 2 lety +6

      Still got some more coming!

  • @EvolveNowYoga
    @EvolveNowYoga Před 2 lety +7

    Seths stick fighting joke in the end is underrated

  • @gwidao123
    @gwidao123 Před 2 lety +29

    I'm a Escryma Teacher and i totally agree with this guy. Flourishing pretty shit never works for real. There are a TON of wrist disarms that are actually very effective though, pull 'em off in sparring all the time. You're not gonna disarm a knife though, no way. Long objects though, really good chance you can

    • @marceldouwstra5847
      @marceldouwstra5847 Před 2 lety +3

      Agreed. It's too fiddly to work in a adrenaline pumped real life situation. I prefer to control/immobilize the knife arm and make them drop the knife by some "physical convincing".

    • @thomasgross8289
      @thomasgross8289 Před 2 lety

      Its actually quite easy to disarm a knife with a strike. Back of the hand, into fingers, inside and outside wrists, for arm, radial nerve.
      Ok the fingers would be hairy lol

    • @jirkazalabak1514
      @jirkazalabak1514 Před 2 lety +2

      I guess it depends on the type of knife. With a big steak knife that is pretty slow and heavy, has only one sharp side, and can easily be grabbed with both hands, you have a decent chance of disarming, or at least controlling it. If someone pulls out a small double-edged tactical knife, you are absolutely fucked. These things are so small and handy that even when fixed against your body, a crafty attacker can still figure out a way to jam them right into your flesh. Not only that, but the handles on those knives are often made specifically so that the knife doesn´t slip or fall out, so it´s extremely difficult to actually get it out of someone´s hand. That doesn´t even mention the fact that a guy with a tactical knife on him will probably be more skilled than an angry housewife with a kitchen knife.

    • @jasonsimpson1397
      @jasonsimpson1397 Před 2 lety +3

      The fancy stuff still looks cool, but it's only good for form competitions.
      It's unfortunate that it makes the whole art seem like a joke. It's unfortunate that people refer to it as stick fighting and ignore that it's a fairly rounded system, including dumog.

    • @jasonsimpson1397
      @jasonsimpson1397 Před 2 lety

      Also, let's not ignore the grip strength it builds 😅

  • @legin777
    @legin777 Před 2 lety +17

    prepare for all the Silat/Kali/Bondo practitioners to come out of the woodwork.

    • @oldschoolmuzzey
      @oldschoolmuzzey Před 2 lety +3

      your not lying ,i do some Jun Fan Jkd with my friends who train in that system and they do love the kali sticks. and oblique kicks🥸👍🏽

    • @metrolinamartialarts
      @metrolinamartialarts Před 2 lety +4

      I said some things and people are gonna be mad.

    • @Ventus_the_Heathen
      @Ventus_the_Heathen Před 2 lety +4

      Silat practitioner out of the wood work here! That disarm is the same in my style. All the kickboxing, wrestling, and jiu jitsu I train also helps back it up Haha

    • @metrolinamartialarts
      @metrolinamartialarts Před 2 lety +4

      @@Ventus_the_Heathen sweet!

    • @WatchMysh
      @WatchMysh Před 2 lety +3

      *A wild Kali instructor appears* Metrolina is 100% right. All the fine movements don't work. That's why PTK for example mostly abandoned them - especially when instructing law enforcement or military personell. Gross motor movements, closing the distance and grappling/elbows all the way. Great collaboration by the way. More of that, please! :)

  • @brianmagsipoc8718
    @brianmagsipoc8718 Před 2 lety +5

    Took Kali for a few years, gross motor movements absolutely work in sparring far better then the flowery stuff. At least you have a much higher percentage of landing them.

  • @allstarwoo4
    @allstarwoo4 Před 2 lety +3

    I love Mike's face of disbelief. You've done it before with wrist strips but slightly different. Using leverage to break someone's grip, same idea different application.

  • @staysafemartialarts
    @staysafemartialarts Před 2 lety +7

    Love these recent videos. The atmosphere is great. Cool to see each video is with someone else offering their insight/knowledge for a given situation.

  • @streetkombativesystem4704
    @streetkombativesystem4704 Před 2 lety +10

    "Dude if your teaching that stuff, you can't fight." replies "Your not wrong." Then at 4:20 mins in shows us some of the flowery shit he agreed wouldn't work 🤣. Salute.

  • @stanisawzokiewski3308
    @stanisawzokiewski3308 Před 2 lety +4

    4:30 same thing in hema twisting weapons out the hand clock like

  • @grayalun
    @grayalun Před 2 lety +2

    These two working together is great viewing.
    It's actually nice to see guys from two completely different fighting styles looking at what they can learn from each other.
    Rather than what we see so often with one style saying their way is the only way, learn from everyone I say.

  • @anthonyforster529
    @anthonyforster529 Před 2 lety +3

    Great content. One of the techniques against the backhand taught at my wing chun school was to step in with a simple double forearm block to the weapon arm on the backswing, then elbow check with one hand and weapon wrap to disarm with the other. This at least allowed you to keep pressure forward when your opponent tried to back hand again and looked super cool if you could actually pull it off ;)

  • @metrolinamartialarts
    @metrolinamartialarts Před 2 lety +5

    Oh boy! I said some mean things about Kali! 😅

    • @BeReadySelfDefense
      @BeReadySelfDefense Před 2 lety +2

      We need more of that.

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  Před 2 lety +2

      an army of keyboard warriors approaches!

    • @WatchMysh
      @WatchMysh Před 2 lety +1

      Where? I have 10+ years of Kali behind me and didn't spot one mean thing - only logic and truth found in sparring and pressure testing. That's why there are different schools of Kali. Some kept the complicated stuff, some didn't. The fancy disarms only work reliably if you already defeated the attacker - which means another punch would KO him anyways.

    • @letsfilipino
      @letsfilipino Před 2 lety +2

      I'm not falling into this trap.

  • @shadowfighter6445
    @shadowfighter6445 Před 2 lety +11

    That disarm looks really fun, I'm practicing that one 😄.
    Thank you for sharing ☺️.

    • @Daves_Not_Here_Man_76
      @Daves_Not_Here_Man_76 Před 2 lety +1

      it also works using your arms crossed and catching the stick near the guys hands. Hurts like hell and ONLY works when they take a baseball bat style swing. Then spin the stick from them. If you keep the stick, you're in a great position to jab it in their throat, balls or anywhere in between.

  • @andrewtaylor6795
    @andrewtaylor6795 Před 2 lety +1

    Live how the stick disarm actually works and love Mike's reaction reaction more 🤣

  • @arthurfleck8777
    @arthurfleck8777 Před 2 lety +2

    Congratulations on 400k Subscribers Mike, you've earned it!.

  • @Capablanca42069
    @Capablanca42069 Před 2 lety

    I think the best thing for me on this channel has been seeing that gym fill up behind you with awesome people! I live in Scotland but I swear down if I'm ever in America Icy Mike is my go-to autograph goal!

  • @moneyfornothing3264
    @moneyfornothing3264 Před 2 lety

    This was great. Thanks Ed.

  • @Annokh
    @Annokh Před 2 lety +3

    Damn, finally someone talking sense about stick-related things on the CZcams.
    Have you noticed that the motion in question can be seen even in some TMA forms? For me, personally, Silat comes to mind. They like this motion a lot.
    On the matter of using sticks in self-defense situation. Well, I agree, it's not the most intuitive thing. Walking canes are a bit out of style as of late. But as my experience shows, it's not that much of a problem to bring it back, heh.

  • @bartangel4867
    @bartangel4867 Před 2 lety +6

    This is a good video. i like the defense of course someone would need to practice it for quite some time to get the muscle memory down, but its still simpler and probably more effective than some other ways.

  • @jordanmurray4061
    @jordanmurray4061 Před 2 lety

    "look at him, he feeld good now" lol! I love that background commentary

  • @eemotion
    @eemotion Před 2 lety

    I've watched several videos with Ed and I have not noticed his right hand until now!

  • @paleamigo8575
    @paleamigo8575 Před 2 lety +2

    Excellent instruction! Finger gouges to the eyes are underrated and often available if close enough. People don't think about them because they are focused on looking cool while fighting.
    Lastly, I believe a defender should always shadow the hand holding the weapon without grabbing until you are ready to. This way you can partially guide where it goes and you know where it is without taking your eye off of the attacker. If you are on the inside of course.
    Great video, thank you!

  • @willmaier4134
    @willmaier4134 Před rokem

    Good advice, good explanation of the importance of controlling the distance; good technique. I also like an option of grabbing the stick with your right hand (palm up) to strip it, instead of just knocking it away. Now you can use the stick if you need to. Always enjoy your videos! A lot of good stuff!

  • @frisc0strangler207
    @frisc0strangler207 Před 2 lety +1

    This might be the baddest dude with one good hand on the planet. Good stuff fellas!

  • @KungFuCooter
    @KungFuCooter Před 2 lety

    Ed is Awesome. I enjoyed talking with him at the last seminar that I attended.

  • @KhaosTy
    @KhaosTy Před 2 lety +1

    Great video and good timing. I just moved home to Manila and just this morning was working with an Arnis instructor at a park.
    He was showing me this same "snake" disarm, but he was telling me to grab the thumb of my opponent, which felt a little unrealistic. To his credit he showed me other, similar disarms depending on whether I could grab the hand, wrist, or weapon.

  • @martialartsauthorreacts5495

    Awesome video. Good job Sifu Ed with the disarm. Enjoy the podcast with Sifu Ed Stahl. I hope to have another chat. Enjoy Hard2Hurt content. Deflecting to disarming a weapon knowing how to control the arms. Absolutely agree that knowing how to grapple which can help you to deal with a weapon if it goes to the grown. Having the sensitivity drills like hubud give you that concept of knowing how to redirect the weapon hand so you can get the disarm. Timing the distance of the weapon knowing how to read the movements of the attacker motion. Not saying that hubud is the key of learning disarming a weapon, but it is a good drill to give you the concept of it. Excellent video Mike and Ed.

  • @michaelclarkson1376
    @michaelclarkson1376 Před 2 lety +8

    I saw a guy try to block a metal pipe with his forearm without closing the distance. There's no better object lesson for what not to do than watching someone's forearm go floppy. The radius and ulna were both broken horribly. Less a fracture and more a shatter. Had to have his bones wired and screwed into place.

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  Před 2 lety +9

      bUt DiD hE gEt HiT iN tEH heD?

    • @michaelclarkson1376
      @michaelclarkson1376 Před 2 lety +8

      @@hard2hurt I’m betting he would have if the guy with a pipe had gone for a second swing. Luckily, pipe dude got freaked out when he saw the arm flop and ran away. I’m guessing he knew the cops would be on their way. 🤣

    • @thomasgross8289
      @thomasgross8289 Před 2 lety

      Who is fundamentally that stupid?

    • @PipEnigma
      @PipEnigma Před 2 lety +1

      @@thomasgross8289 my mom put me in a mcdojo style place when I was younger and i shit you not we practiced blocking sticks with our arms like that over and over. I did it one time outside of that place when at school with just a regular old stick, and i went home with a huge welt on my arm. I knew then that something was up with that place lmao

    • @thomasgross8289
      @thomasgross8289 Před 2 lety +1

      @@PipEnigma LMAO

  • @benlee181089
    @benlee181089 Před rokem

    Nice channel, great research done in a light hearted manner

  • @ShaunMeaney99
    @ShaunMeaney99 Před 2 lety

    Never seen anything quite like this! Great video!

  • @dirgniflesuoh7950
    @dirgniflesuoh7950 Před 2 lety

    Really fun! Thanks!

  • @smokerxluffy
    @smokerxluffy Před 2 lety +1

    That disarm basically also exists in medieval dagger and I've done it in sparring (with blunts).

  • @ClantonCombatives
    @ClantonCombatives Před 2 lety

    Good shit as usual!

  • @onealjones9039
    @onealjones9039 Před 2 lety

    This makes me happy 😊

  • @aetius2277
    @aetius2277 Před 2 lety +2

    Love the video !
    Lol teachers teaching students to put their hands up to block a stick. They are not teaching that that is the ideal technique to use but the fact is the reality is if somebody comes charging at you flailing a stick you will get blasted ! And your arms receiving it is a lot better than your face or a vital spot on your body. So it’s not that it’s the technique that you want to use but sometimes the only one that you can use and it’s damage control. Being that you receive damage then you react off of the hit because you got hit anyway .
    Yes the techniques of being able to enter in control the distance and be out of the effect of range of the stick is the ideal techniques to use as demonstrated in this video.
    However the reality is you’re probably going to get blasted while you are closing that distance. And therefore your arms would be the better place to receive it and you will still have to react off of that.
    It’s the same thing as if you were attacked with somebody who has a knife you’re going to get cut .
    It’s never the fact that well it’s just OK to get cut on your arms and then you just go do this and do that because that’s stupid because your arms just got cut .
    That’s not the case is the concept of if somebody charges at me with a knife wailing I’m probably going to get cut so I want to control that damage on my arms rather than my neck or my face or being stabbed in the body and then I’m gonna have to react off of that
    No it’s just training worst case scenario .
    And then separately training the ideal scenario.
    I love your videos keep them coming .

  • @The_Taiji_Viking
    @The_Taiji_Viking Před 2 lety

    Great video. Interestingly enough, this is all strongly in line with TaijiQuan principles too. Most don't know it's a blade based art as well, but it is, prioritizing Spear and Sword but including Daggers too. Everything from the "use gross motor movements and discard the fine/complex," to using the forearms as a primary interaction surface for safety against weapons, to the exact disarm shown here. The first half of the movement is in our forms as "Cloud Hands" or "Wave Hands Like Clouds,' and the finish is exactly the motion of "White Crane Spreading Wings" or "Wing Split". Super cool video

  • @vaughnsangalang7934
    @vaughnsangalang7934 Před 2 lety +2

    sticks are good self defense weapons specially a guy that knows even a little kali and sticks are vary fast weapons

  • @graylad
    @graylad Před 2 lety

    Excellent!

  • @davidhumphrey2316
    @davidhumphrey2316 Před 2 lety

    Very very good advice

  • @Amajor10
    @Amajor10 Před 2 lety +1

    All the way in or all the way out. Nice mantra to live by for multiple things in life...

  • @peterrussell6029
    @peterrussell6029 Před 2 lety +1

    Good vid - try going straight under the nose after the crash in with the free hand to get the opponent’s head back (with a view towards getting him onto the ground) - we‘ve had a lot of fun with this one 👍

  • @ramonvelasquez8431
    @ramonvelasquez8431 Před 2 lety +3

    Awesome stuff, nice to see a cool looking move that actually works! I do know a few but sadly the majority seem to be a very specific niche kind of thing.

    • @hard2hurt
      @hard2hurt  Před 2 lety +7

      Yeah I think some guys either get too bogged down in "looking cool" or things "working" and never look for things that are both. Martial Arts is TWO words.

    • @ramonvelasquez8431
      @ramonvelasquez8431 Před 2 lety

      @@hard2hurt Very good point! It has indeed a martial aspect, but it is also art as in everything when crafted correctly. Cheers Mike!

  • @BjjMaster
    @BjjMaster Před 2 lety

    Been loving this channel for a while… would you do an episode on cane’s?

  • @gr2192
    @gr2192 Před 2 lety

    So there IS something effective AND cool!

  • @kencoffman7145
    @kencoffman7145 Před 2 lety +13

    Knocked outta the park again! Could we get a part 2 maybe?? "You disarmed him, now what??". I think that a lot of people think that once you've taken the weapon away the bad guys are just going to take off. Love your stuff Mike

    • @matijaderetic3565
      @matijaderetic3565 Před 2 lety +3

      Then you are evenly armed and do all the shit you trained for. OODA, speed, suprise, agression. Grappling and striking. 1 v 1 I guess you can ignore the weapon, otherwise someone might get it.
      I might be wrong, but the past situation of weapon being involved changes nothing in the present moment of two unarmed people fighting.
      Grabbing the weapon could leave you open for attack.
      I am not saying it's a bad question, but there's too many scenarios and that's where other vids come in. Obviously watching h2h isn't enough to defend yourself and needs practice among other things.

    • @jdpace4371
      @jdpace4371 Před 2 lety +2

      It's obvious: side kick.

    • @kencoffman7145
      @kencoffman7145 Před 2 lety

      @@jdpace4371 😂🤣😂🤣😂

    • @jirkazalabak1514
      @jirkazalabak1514 Před 2 lety +1

      It´s tough to give solid advice on what to do in every situation. It really depends. If you are alone with your attacker, you have plenty of time to finish them off (this is tactical advice, so we´re assuming you can do that) and grab the weapon after you´re done. If you´re in a crowded place, it might be better to simply create some space and grab the weapon immediately, because it that case, the risk of someone else picking it up is too high to ignore it.

    • @Daves_Not_Here_Man_76
      @Daves_Not_Here_Man_76 Před 2 lety

      @@matijaderetic3565 Instead of tossing the guy's stick, keep it for youself. Them beat the shit out of him with chops instead of swings. Kinda hard to take a stick that's used properly

  • @isaweesaw
    @isaweesaw Před 2 lety +3

    Time to go into a dodgy part of town and self defence some guys with this cool ninja move I've never practiced

  • @thecomedian5933
    @thecomedian5933 Před rokem

    Half way through the video I realized dude was missing some fingers. Its always impressive to see people who have a physical disability be a bad ass. Props to that dude.

  • @eljoelo2459
    @eljoelo2459 Před 2 lety

    That was Mike getting his mind blown again and again The way the stick comes out of the hand is perfect since it is being forced against the thumb. If someone has the thumb strong enough to not let the stick go, RUN FOR YOUR LIFE.

  • @introvertincognito4518

    FMA that u see online is the art...the extensive flowery stuff is often things just to teach flow.

  • @camfer9616
    @camfer9616 Před 2 lety +1

    just when Mike hits the big "bullshit..." the ads pop XD perfect mid credits!

  • @juanmoralesvideo
    @juanmoralesvideo Před 8 měsíci

    Great technique! Looks realistic and grounded. I would like to see some defenses when the guy is holding the stick with both hands.

  • @jaystedman4819
    @jaystedman4819 Před 2 lety +1

    5:00 similar movement to Mawashi Uke in Naha-te Karate styles. Shows that techniques like this originally come from effective and natural body movements like arms rotating in different direction despite the fact that any practical use of such movements is predominantly ignored by modern clubs.

  • @DHRGrafix
    @DHRGrafix Před 2 lety

    Great video. I lead an FMA training group. We also add dirty boxing, clinch fighting and BJJ. Stick is really good for teaching timing, distance and how to manage the fear of somebody hitting you with a stick. But I tell my group that stick duels, knife duels, sword duels, etc. while fun in training aren't very realistic for self defense. So we spend some time every session doing "self defense" like defending against somebody with a bat or stick. When we do it looks exactly like what Ed is teaching except I've never learned that disarm Ed teaches Icy Mike. Looks sweet. We will be trying that one out this Saturday at our next session.

  • @isaactuuri6488
    @isaactuuri6488 Před 2 lety

    thank you bro

  • @emwu1988
    @emwu1988 Před 2 lety

    Nice one!

  • @scottbarber2736
    @scottbarber2736 Před 2 lety +1

    Millennials in the back: Get off yer damn phones and pay attention!

  • @robertwomack8653
    @robertwomack8653 Před 2 lety

    I was taught that exact disarm in an Arnis class...a lot of it is impractical but some of it does work.

  • @SamFreedom
    @SamFreedom Před 2 lety

    Many videos are bunk but this was interesting and plausible.

  • @bdinfectedgamers
    @bdinfectedgamers Před 2 lety

    Amazing

  • @aezakmi4183
    @aezakmi4183 Před 2 lety

    I noticed the hand only watching for the second time..makes it even better now.

  • @FlyingPusssyfoot
    @FlyingPusssyfoot Před rokem

    That guy actually seems to know what he's talking about. Genuinely surprised it worked

  • @derekvandenburg6689
    @derekvandenburg6689 Před 2 lety

    That was a slick disarm

  • @rabidfox---1161
    @rabidfox---1161 Před 2 lety +1

    That's a classic Tang Soo Do, and Hapkido disarm, it's found in a variety of other styles as well. You'll find it many traditional korean, japanese karate, and chinese kungfu forms. There are many variations in forms of the same movements having various uses, or meanings sometimes, both in striking as well as grappling. The trapping arm can go over, under and around and strike to the groin, ribs or liver while trapping the arm/elbow joint --while simultaneously also defending or applying a forearm or elbow strike with the other arm, into a take down, or chop/hammerfist to the neck/temple/jaw.

  • @gingercore69
    @gingercore69 Před 2 lety +4

    We did a similar thing against slashing with knives, retreat on the first slash, and when they go for the reverse we would try to crash in and get a wakigatame... From there, either trip them over with basically a tai otoshi with a wakigatame grip, or change grip into an udegarami style grip and twist arround to.drop the oponent... We would do 2 minutes sparring rounds changing who gets the knife each time there was a dissarm
    First thing we noticed... Its very hard to not get hit at all... Just make sure you dont get butchered... Second thing, no matter how many times you practice knife sparring not having a knife yourself is stressfull when the lther guy has one, even if its a practice one...
    Also, in sparring we allowed any grip or attack, but the easiest techniques to defend from are the reverse slash and any straight downwards attack like a descending slash from above or an icepick grip descending stab...
    Also... ALWAYS WEAR EYE PROTECTION

  • @I_Magni_I
    @I_Magni_I Před 2 lety

    That’s sick

  • @aaronandrewmonterola7394

    I agree that fma is not great for self defense, (it wasn’t meant for that)
    That flashy disarm moves etc etc…. I watched fma teachers saying don’t do it, it is just for the art but then again would you attack someone who practiced those moves a hundred of times. I know I wouldn’t. He said know your skill level first, run if possible if not be the aggressor do not maintain in the defensive position.
    This is a self defense youtube channel, where you can learn self-defense the most effective and practical way. I learned something from this video thank you.

  • @Gyrodyssey
    @Gyrodyssey Před 2 lety

    Awesome Video!

  • @blauerbaluify
    @blauerbaluify Před 2 lety +4

    Maybe I got it wrong, I am not a native speaker but you are bitching about how "FMA does not work in the streets" just to show a classical FMA disarm? 😉 There are a lot of FMA styles that use exactly that entry and similar follow ups like the one shown here. BTW FMA has to much variety to say if it works or not. It's not the style but the training method.
    I love your channel, it's just great. 💪👍

  • @baron5595
    @baron5595 Před 2 lety +1

    It's probably the most high probability stick disarm. Sometimes called the 'snake' or 'snake and vine' disarm.

  • @benjaminpujols1914
    @benjaminpujols1914 Před 2 lety +1

    LOL you guys are giving me a lot of memories from the past I used to actually walk around with anywhere from 12 to billy clubs bad neighborhood Dirtbag left and right you never know nobody at that time would fight one-on-one and if they did they would have their boys around so if they are losing or looks like you may know what you're doing they will jump in so if anything were to happen I was not going to put myself in a position where it's going to be a match and respect the rules of that match if I get into a fight with somebody 10-20 years ago and it looks like it's going to be similar to like a match like you would see in boxing or wrestling or whatever I am going to go into it that way if I have no choice obviously cuz I never liked fighting on purpose unless I'm angry but I'm still going to keep in mind to disrespect the rules of the match meaning that I will use whatever weapons I have is if it's a knife billy club a chain flashlight because sooner or later if it's a few seconds or few minutes it could be 20 years from now his friends are going to jump in eventually and that's something that I needed to be ready for when you're going against more than one person you definitely going to want a weapon to even it out as best as possible anyway and that's yeah that's what I would do a lot of moving I was in better shape then if I try that now I would guess South faster than I don't know faster than giant truck with no gas

  • @MonkeyFist
    @MonkeyFist Před 2 lety +3

    5:54 you need blue arrow on your head in that moment hehe (air bender thing)
    But! Sparrings with the sticks (real sparrings - not choreograohy or drills) are pretty crazy... I think that all selfdefense gurus should try it hehe

  • @yuriysemenikhin302
    @yuriysemenikhin302 Před 2 lety +3

    Why is Mike so intent on proving that Aikido Works, if he says that Aikido Does Not Work.
    So let us recap the points the this video addressed:
    "Nobody hits like that" - Right until the moment they got a stick or any other item in their hand, then they DO fcuking "Hit Like That!"
    "Aikido techniques are too big" (I spend most of my time fighting in the phone booths and toilet cabins) - Gross Motor Movements, learn big movements first, make them small later.
    So as an Aikidoka I'd like to ask Mike:
    Mike!
    Why do you work so hard to prove that Aikido works???

    • @ocaikiclub2859
      @ocaikiclub2859 Před 2 lety +2

      I think is a little more subtle. These are all pretti standard aikido entries from yokomenuchi and sotomenuchi. But they have a meaning in armed confrontations. So, to that I think Mike is implicitly showing that aikido within the right context can work. But also proves the point the aforementioned attacks make no sense empty handed. Also, he would probably never admit to that ;-)

  • @alterstassfurter5743
    @alterstassfurter5743 Před 2 lety

    I did combat arnis and karate-do (shodan)...and...I am absolutely with you.

  • @brianr5919
    @brianr5919 Před měsícem

    I'm a 3rd degree black belt in tkd, a 2 striped blue belt in BJJ, done a year of boxing, about 6 months of Krav Maga. Essentially, I've been doing martial arts for a long time. Been doing filipino martial arts for about 6 months and I will say a lot fo what they teach is very effective. I asked my instructor about using a knife one day and he had me practice with a training knife. Everything isnthe same as it is with the stick or sword. You just have a shorter weapon and thus have to get in closer to your opponent. So yes, while not many people carry a stick with them everywhere, many people carry knives, including myself, and you can use the techniques with a knife. IMO, it is much more practical to defend against someone attacking you with a knife, baseball bat, etc. with a knife of your own than attempt to defend unarmed with the techniques taught in Krav Maga.

  • @punymagus
    @punymagus Před 2 lety +1

    Looks exactly like how we learn any technique in Aikido, no joke.

  • @spencerpalmer2918
    @spencerpalmer2918 Před 2 lety

    Thanks

  • @marcusinfestus1333
    @marcusinfestus1333 Před 2 lety

    Me since forever:
    "I have terrible hand-strength and can't grapple or disarm."
    ...
    I have no answer for what I just saw. I learned so much. Thank you!

  • @iitim2152
    @iitim2152 Před 3 měsíci

    Mikes brain broke when that flashy disarm worked lol

  • @dylanthomasbriones2585
    @dylanthomasbriones2585 Před 2 lety +5

    FMA is fake, ineffective etc.
    *proceeds to use literally the same shit we do in balintawak*
    I get it, its all in good fun.
    But Sensei Seth should hook Mike up with Guro Alex Ormaza, I think that'd be a cool vid.

  • @XingyiTaijiFighter
    @XingyiTaijiFighter Před 2 lety

    How Ed is using to disarm the stick is basically Lazily Tying the Coat in Taijiquan. In the sense of gross motor pattern.

  • @philip2685
    @philip2685 Před 2 lety

    The second part where blocking the backhand or closing in on the forehand is what we were thought in krav.

  • @LuxisAlukard
    @LuxisAlukard Před 2 lety

    4:20 That's scene for some kung fu movie, with Mike as young student and Ed as old, wise master that teaches him secret techniques

  • @cerealchild166
    @cerealchild166 Před rokem

    That is interesting!!

  • @malkomalkavian
    @malkomalkavian Před 2 lety

    Good vid, thanks :)

  • @mattdowds8505
    @mattdowds8505 Před 2 lety +1

    4:20 Remember Icy Mike, "The hand is not made to hold things very well"- Dale Brown, founder of Detroit Urban Survival Training & the Detroit Threat Management Center.

  • @heathenshaunt681
    @heathenshaunt681 Před 2 lety

    The point he makes at the 7 minute point even if you don't have the torque advantage for a disarm you can lock it up or get in close to negate it and ruin them either way and continue to disarm or take control of the weapon to use on them

  • @Carnerd101
    @Carnerd101 Před 2 lety +6

    Mike, still learning how to defend himself and talking like he's the expert

    • @STARKILLER15100
      @STARKILLER15100 Před 2 lety

      A master always knows hes not learned everything yet.

  • @emanuelcain9024
    @emanuelcain9024 Před 2 lety

    This is a great video !!!
    But , I'm still waiting for the promise HAMMER self defense course videos!!!