MPC Audio Routing and Sequencing without Using MIDI
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The fact that you really donât care whether itâs a thumbs up or down is so dope đđŸ
The fact that you believe that is so typical fanboi type comment. No care/no need to even mention. Fools.
Cakewalk sonar has the best MIDI sequencers. That sequencer has been rock solid since the 90s. It may not be as popular as it once was, but i still rock with it when I want to put some Midi data down to files.
yeah i hate that to Bolo !! But learned you have to use MTC (Midi Time Code) protocol or that little jump you had for few seconds will continue to happen ! Another quick to beat this is let the first 2 to 4 bars be silent so that way the DAW get its act together ! Good SHOW MAN !!!
I don't even have an MPC but I just came because, Bolo. Learnt some tips here that I can apply to Koala.
Yeah, I'm always tempted to use MIDI since it can easily be changed. But working with audio allows me to focus on getting that sound as best as I can.
Extremely helpful. Thank you, and you've got yourself another subscriber.
Man, this is the best track out method ever. You can't mess it up. It's slow, but you can't mess it up.
Dope method Bruh!
Currently I record my audio from my MPCX, (which is in standalone), into the MPC software to song up and/or mix down....the way I do it is:
My MPC Live ii is in "Controller Mode" and it controls the MPC software,( naturally lol), and the MPC X is in standalone mode...I sync both units together with a standard midi cable....I connect one end the "midi out" of the MPC Live ii, and the other end to the "midi in" of the MPC X...Now, there are a few changes to make in your midi preferences on the X and on in the software, but it's not difficult to do. You may also have to adjust your audio buffer settings for your audio interface to make up for or decrease any delay on sound you may experience. With the software being the "master", it will control your tempo. No matter what the X is set too.
Why do it this way you ask??? Well, if Im working in standalone and I want to take advantage of a few sounds in Omnisphere, then I record the sounds into the software and then after I finish, I can record the loop into the X onto an audio teack. OR I can record it as a sample and drop it on a pad...I have a SSL Six mixer which has multiple outs. So I have cables running out of the SSL into my audio interface AND the MPC X....It takes longer to do it the way I have it set up, but that standalone sound running through the SSL is killer!
This was dope... good look... I been using Studio One for sequencing for years and never knew bout the shift tab...
And one reason i was against mpcâs back in the days cuz I didnât want the hassle of trying to figure out how to line up the tracks in DAW...
Helpful video for sure.
You a blessing, Bolo!
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midi mishaps murdered many.
I always used Logic with the mpc assigned to midi clock sync to multitrack out. Nowadays I export the tracks.
I remember those old skool midi days
thank god
The skruggle
You da truth for that one. đŻ
I still use midi dumps to load samples to vintage samplers.
Dropping gems. Good process. Thanks for sharing.
Since I'm not commercial and avoid using my DAW, my workflow ends at the MPC when possible. Been using wireless MIDI and it's been working out ok for me. Wireless MIDI probably isn't any better, just more convenient.
There's an even easier way to do it. if you work in standalone.
All you have to do this this:
1. Open up your DAW.
2. Add MPC software as a VST
3. Put your MPC into controller Mode.
4. Inside the MPC software, load your project.
5. Add as many Audio tracks inside your DAW as you need.
6. Each Audi track should be routed to the MPC (VST).
7. Push play and record.
**Side note**
The MPC Software can have up to 32 Audio Outs. So you can assign each of your Tracks to a different out and then you can record each track out at the same time.
Hope that make sense? :)
You're right, that DOES work, if you're usimg the software. But he wants to take advantage of the Analog sound you get when you're working in standalone...believe me, there's a difference...I have the X and Live ii
@@bulletheadbeatz2296 exactlyâŠ.
WOW!!! I remember having to learn Midi IN/OUT and THRU. I walked away from Midi and never looked back. LOL Getting 6 keyboards, MPC and a PC to talk?!?!?!? Nope. 90's days are gone. LOL
Thats great bolo, I use to do a similar thing, another point is you can make the recording part in any portable recorder or whatever to get your stems and then do the fancy daw stuff
I remember the days when the sequencer was separate like Alesis sequencer
Thanks bro definitely learning from all ur videos
LolâŠ. Precious Preaching 4 Generation Xâs
Ur Too Kind! đŻđŻđŻ
Like your channel, kinda just getting used to social media, I'm an old old guy. Anyway, I think it's your general personality, the for realness. I started a channel and like it when folks are honest in their opinions good or bad, so there's yours. Keep up the good work, I'll look, for your newest vids.
Thanks!
Thank you for this tutorial
It's Dope seeing your methods! What I do is make EVERYTHING in the MPC using the song mode. I track out all my audio on one sequence before I start to copy sequences to make a song, then I edit my drops, fills and change ups on each sequence, making breakdowns and bridges if it's RnB. After that, I put it all in a folder and drop it into protools!
I appreciate your teachings brother. â€
Thanks
@@BoloDaProducer You're welcome.
Good Look Brother!!
Cool Technique for recording the MPC using the DAW.....Preciate U!
Grade A tutorial đȘđœ
Midi drove me crazy back in the day đ
Fire bro
Shout out to you for this Bolo! Thanks a lot broâŠ..This has been a pain for me for yearsâŠ.đđœ Zeebra has a nice method as well.
nice bro. technology still holds midi and you would find that different machines uses midi without all the headaches. the evolution of technology pertaining to midi you can do so much different things and learn much more.
That beat is the one for Dababy, thats his type of beat he goes for
CZcams's suggesting your vid to Me and it's a good vid. Thanks.
You kinda don't really need midi cables as most midi keyboards or surface controllers from at least 2010 all can be linked to a PC or laptop Daw via USB. Most keyboards and control surface manufacturers have driver downloads and a discription of what goes where when it comes to the files. I got a 11 year old Akai MPK and downloaded the drivers from Akai website and it works fine no problem. Midi is mainly good for linking control surface and keyboards togerther.
Man you are dopeâŠ. U have me looking at studio one now instead of logic.
Here's how I would do it in my setup.
1. First, make sure I have an audio interface with enough input channels to support ALL of my hardware so that EACH piece of hardware gets it's own separate channel routed in.
2. Leave a few bars empty at the beginning of the midi sequence in the midi sequencer (MPC). I usually insert 4 or 8 bars in front of mine.
3. Sync the MIDI sequencer with the DAW via MTC (Midi Time Code).
4. Make sure the tempo in your DAW project matches that of your midi sequencer.
5. In your DAW project, setup all of the tracks and audio routings for ALL of your hardware instruments (keyboards, synths, etc..) that you are recording, including separated drums (separate outs from a drum machine, MPC, etc...). Each instrument should have it's own separate track.
6. Arm all tracks for recording.
7. Start recording EVERYTHING in ONE pass.
8. Play back the recording to verify everything recorded correctly.
9. Save the project in your DAW with your newly recorded tracked-out beat.
10. DONE. Now, you can shut off all the hardware synths, MPC, etc and start working on recording the vocals, mixdown, etc.... (Make sure your midi sequence is saved before shutting off the MPC, or whatever other hardware sequencer you may be using!!!!!)
I'm not gonna lie. Audio interfaces with 20-40 or more analog inputs aren't cheap, but being able sequence everything on the MPC then track EVERYTHING out in only ONE pass as the entire midi sequence plays back is really a pleasure!!! I've never had any midi hiccups or timing issues using this method either.
put one or two bars in the beginning - let your song or beat start on the 3th - it has to do with the clock and sync thingie, but you're right, it alway sounds different - that's my problem, if you record what you hear then thats what you get, if you record in midi - seems different, pro's and cons - it is easier to change parameters in midi though
I like that approach! Imma have to try that!
plug the out to in to get midi in from out. got it.
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Dope!
This is a good method, I usually have a 50% fail rate with MIDI regardless if its 5 pin, USB or ethernet cable.
I like your method better, thanks
The reason you were having trouble with the midi is because of the midi device you used to connect to the computer . I just watched a dope video where the dude used this akai device sorta like yours but I was was clocking . Thatâs a time syncing issue . But Iâm with you I just use mine as a instrument. Sometimes I come out the mpc and go into the instrument port on the from of my twin where you would plug in your guitar . This was a dope lesson tho bro
Just a side note. If you use a high end DAW like Cakewalk, you can load the .ins file for the instrument into the DAW and control the Audio and MIDI of the instument over the USB. Even multiple instruments at once. The best thing about always having your MIDI tracks is that when you get further down the road into the mixing and production stage, you can make the change very quickly on the midi track without having to re-play the audio manually.
Iâve done that but I like the sound through cables đȘđŸ
@@BoloDaProducer In Cakewalk you can route the MIDI and audio over the separate cables like you are doing at the same time also. It is completely flexible based on how you work.
You can do it in studio one as well but I try to minimize as much as a digital signal as well⊠plus Iâm very old school đ
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Yes, midi does go off beat from time to time, but it's very seldom with me. It might do it every 20 to 30 minutes, I'll notice it shifts or goes off beat for just a split second, but it's not bad enough that I can't use it. I would rather just record a beat straight into what I want to record it into without midi though.
There's really no point for midi unless you need the bpm to sync up with your gear. I need it for the Boss RC-505 when I want the tempos to match up on the MPC One and the Roland JD-XI, which it works pretty good with, cause it's kind of hard to get a tempo right where you need it when it loops around without midi sync. I did it before, but I would rather not use midi either Bolo. Your right, I think the newer midi might be a bit better, but it's probably about the same. With what yours did at the beginning though, I never had that happen at the start. Sometime into it, yes...SBN RESONATE
I wonder does the shift tab method works in FL. Because I been recording in the sound one by one
GREAT Video as always BOLO, Question, When your track your Beat out into your DAW, Now that the AUDIO is in your DAW, do you save your project on your MPC, and if so, Do you also save anything from your KEYBOARD as well?
I like that beat it reminds me of a Beats By The Pound No Limit track.
Peace Brother, Iâve tried the (shift to tab) in Ableton and several other keys, but I canât figure it out, do you know what the shortcut is in Ableton?
Sorry bro⊠donât use Ableton
Dope video man I personally explode the tracks and Import them in the daw
I feel ya but you can only explode whatâs inside the unit not external keyboards
@@BoloDaProducer oh ok got you so your doing it as if you are using external gear as well. Makes sense
Peace @ Bolo Da Producer. I used to have that midi problem as well. When your tracking to your daw,make sure you set the midi tracks to ONLY RECEIVE MIDI INFORMATION FROM THE AKAI MPC,OR THE WORKSTATION/DEVICE THAT YOU ARE TRACKING FROM. I used to have multiple midi WORKSTATION devices connected to protools via USB plus The Akai mpc via 5PIN MIDI CABLES. This MAY confuse the daw and will result in conflicting midi read errors. I hope this works for you because tracking just the audio is cool,but itâs always good to track in the associated midi as well,for the sake of further composing and LAYERING sounds from VSTs. Great video tutorial though bro,you showed me a good way to track audio without multitracking setup with multiple cables. I Learned a lot here. âBUZZâ, EPITOME RECORDINGS-NYC.
Iâm using a Yamaha modx as an audio interface so I donât need the audio cables. Just one usb midi cord đȘđŸ
Can you do this on The next video⊠Whatâs the purpose of the SSL? Do you record without your SSL? Whatâs the difference with and without it in sound?
I used the ssl to record the beat in this video
@@BoloDaProducer thanks for responding broâŠ.. so you route into the Apollo from the mpc , then into the ssl from the Apollo, then back into the Apollo from the ssl, then record into the daw?
Also, your drum kits is hitting hardđ„
I have been using MIDI cables since 1984. Yeah, I am old! Deal with it! Anyway, I find it much easier to work in the box so I don't have to deal with transferring audio...
You can transform the midi to audio also with a macro(one button)
Not if youre using an external keyboard
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6:57 your MIDI settings are off. You have something in your settings turned on when it should be off, or vice verse. Also, make sure all of you MIDI ins and outs on both the software end and the hardware in. Don't give up on MIDI, youâre just using it wrong... ESPECIALLY in the MPC. I still use my MPC 1000 with the old school MIDI with Logic X and with Reason with no issues. All you need is the master/slave settings. Hopefully someone in the comments can further elaborate. Trust me Bolo, once you get that part squared away youâll never look back. Right now my hardware setup is similar. I use the MPC1000 as my Master. I have a KORG Triton Studio in slave mode as well as Logic. That way is kinda iffy. So I changed it up. Made Logic the master and the MPC and the Triton the slaves. All the audio is routed into my M-Audio ProFire2626 which has 8 outs that I can then route to my computer from both devices. Being most of the time I use all 16 tracks on the Triton so I do 2 runs on the triton and about 2 runs on the MPC depending on how many tracks I used. I hope this helps and sorry for the essay đđ„
To be honest I never really had too many problems with my 2000, 2500 or even my 1000.Just minor issues that were corrected once I routed audio in. But there were still problems. Only time I didnât have any problems was when I used a master clock to control everything.
@@BoloDaProducer doesn't the X allow you to do so or does the MPC software limits that?
Dope instructional video Bolo. I never tried this method. But, if you recorded the tracks to go a little longer to catch the decays, didn't you lose those decays when you sequenced them back to start on the one on the bar grid?
No I just stretched out the audio
@@BoloDaProducer That's a good look fam. Def gotta try this. 'Preciate ya!
Yes ole school bullet proof methods always good to know. What's your thoughts on this said method verse exploding your mpc tracks to a drive and then simply drag and drop from a file folder?
You cant explode external midi instruments
@@BoloDaProducer ok gottcha
this has been my problem for weeks ,is there a way to to jus take my VST's from logic/computer and download them to my MPC hardware/software?
No
What you just did was the biz' for me!!! I assume I can do the same with Maschine MK3? (I'm toying with trying Akai once again with either a One or Live. I had Touch and I really was disappointed in their lack of support for that unit... NEVERTHELESSđ). Good damn job sir!!đđŸ
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@Matt Dizzle D!! Iâve been using Maschine since 2013. Whenever I make a beat in my Maschine I export the audio in the loop range as sounds and send them to my desktop. Then once I open up Studio One I go to files and then open up my desktop and just drag them right in. Iâve never had any timing issues, works every time.
@@leogolive Cool Chitt'lins... I'm gonna try that method. I think I did something similar by holding the mouse over this small icon in the arranger section of Maschine and it would export either all or selected stems. Thanks for the infođđŸ
@@Ibantar Yeah youâre right I forgot about that method too! You can definitely get your tracks into the DAW and line them up on time.
Bro I use Mpc standalone with Triton Rack SM but when I try to make loops of the tracks there is slight delay in the beginning đ€ why is that happening bro any idea
PTSD frfr
I had the MPC X and I returned it cause I could not record multi tracks out into Logic. I did it with the Renaissance⊠I want to buy it but there has to be a way where I can chose the MPC X and a plug-in and create multi tracks. I was only able to record into my daw from my MPC in stereo not separate tracks. I called AKAI they could not help me. When I go the Maschine Studio it worked greatâŠ. But I want my MPC X back. HELP ME PLEASE
Why not just explode and export the tracks? Is this technique best to send beat through a mixer?
Do you know of any way (within BM3), to isolate an existing drum beat on a sample? I know Audacity has the ability to do something similar⊠but can BM3?
Aye big bro I do this out my 2000xl but the drums donât sound bigger in fact the drums str8 from the daw lowkey hit harder am I doing something wrong?
Yo bolo ...... can u please help me out ? ...... I tried getting a beat from bm3 to FL on my macbook & imac but it never plays.... I'm able to drag and drop the stems into FL on both my macbook & imac but when I hit play they don't work ...... I even downloaded bm3 on a second iPad but I still got the same problem....... do u think u know how to fix it ?
Peace first and foremost. Iâve been having problems with this,question how do you wire everything up itâs frustrating the hell out of me secondly do you use the internal audio on mpc or connect the mpc to the interface via audio device sync in the preferences. Right now I have my mpc x synced to my fantom 06 both are working just fine just want to infuse my audio interface in the setup. I like sequencing on the mpc x but I want to edit mix and master on studio one. Any help would be greatly appreciated âđœ.
Allakazam.
But when I play it from Mpc X there no delay it only happens when recording the track with looper
Fo real bro that's got me fkupđââïž
midi musical instrument digital device
The basicness made me laugh, but I had to be told MIDI donât transmit when I was 14 my damn self
Serious question........ Why even use the clicks if you know it's all in time?
So you can line up the tracks as shown in video if not Iâll take forever to get it done
@@BoloDaProducer oh, I get you.. Sorry. I don't use daws..
đđ€Łthis is midi kids
Threw that mpc x into your apple with a 2 audio wires . midi dont have nothin to do with this lol
Never ever start midi recording at the start. Leave a bar, try it. An even better and simpler way is ableton link, you rarely need to do re allignment, it works really wel and best over ethernet.
Why don't you just record the audio straight into the daw as your making the beat? Then you don't have to dump it.
Bolo this dont have nothin to do with midi signals your just importin audio lol
You obviously have no clue of what youâre implying. I want you to watch the Whole video and understand why I didnât use midi. When you do that, plz come back and leave a better response, like most others have. đđŸ
And you still using midi because that audio is coming from your midi stems out from your Roland keyboard right into your mpc .
Yes we all know thatâŠ. But Iâll talking about tracking into your daw and complications that that happened over the years. You might wanna read some previous comments and watch complete video because by your response your not comprehending
Just found better solution E-RM multiclock USB Syncronizer 500 bucks and all ur gear is in sync appreciate you not answering the comments..
You think he is just sitting around looking at the computer screen waiting for you to comment? The time stamps show you not even giving the man an hour to respond. That is pretty sad and inconsiderate considering he is providing all this material to you at no cost to you.
2:18 and you haven't explained anything. I couldn't continue watching. Just get to the point bro. You could have done all that talking while demonstrating the set-up.
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You need to do full homework on what midi is before you post a video
Iâve been using midi since 2001 Iâm fully aware of what it is