Maserati Grecale Modena review. Just how good is Maserati's 330bhp Porsche Macan rival?
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- čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
- The Maserati Grecale packs a mighty 330bhp in Modena form but is it really a true rival for the likes of the Porsche Macan and Alfa Romeo Stelvio?
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So basically, if there's a problem with the screen, you're knackered. I just love the irony of not being allowed to use a mobile phone when driving but then car manufacturers make basic vehicle functions - that we used to control intuitively - menu driven on screens that are nowhere near as easy or safe to use.
Spot on. Totally agree!
laws are daft arent they, all these touch screens...
100% agree.
In case you didn't know, buttons aren't exactly unbreakble either.
@@N1ckZ The screen on the Maserati also controls PRND, so if the screen fails, the car is inoperative. Hence my original comment.
Have 25K miles on my ‘23 Modena - has been fantastic all around; great road car; get 350-375 miles per tank on every day driving; very comfortable and everything works - zero issues; price, yes on the high side, but do I ever get positive comments from passengers and viewers alike. Lots of love about this car!
30'000 miles on my trofeo
Thanks for sharing I am testing driving a couple this week.
That reverse/drive/reverse/drive on the paddles must be brilliant four wriggling into parking spaces. Rather damned clever! 👍
But not as simple as Mercedes' stalk-mounted auto selector
I didn’t know it did that! Going to try that out.
I have a Stelvio (and had a Giulia before) , they do the same but only to put it in D with the right lever! It doesnt work to put in R for which you always need to use the stick. Wish I could add that feature to mine - I love it
@@Frangranceif you put it to neutral first (pull both paddles) you can select reverse by just pushing the gear selector (no need to hold the shift button) to save 0,003 secs of your life.
@@mikewallace1723if you’re one of the early cars, yes it’ll work and super friendly to use and makes perfect sense, if you’re a later one it’ll only do drive with the right paddle, if it’s a current one it’s not possible at all which is a real shame. Apparently to do with some bulls*** legislation (probably from the states) where some idiot has inadvertently pulled a paddle and crashed. New GranTurismo doesn’t have that feature at all even though same set up, as per Grecale filtering through now 😢
A dark red one would look excellent. You can’t have a grey boring looking Maserati lol
To be honest , i wish the suv thing would go out of fashion. Apart from the trident grill, it could be a Cayenne/Kia cross. Struggle to find it amongst the herd in the supermarket car park. Stick with my old gen 7 Celica. Get lots of positive comments too for a nearly 20 year old car. Bring back the Coupe. Great video though.
I used to agree. Then I bought an SUV. The ease of getting in and out compared to a 'normal car' let alone a Celica (I owned an 190vvt)! Is easy. The slightly higher riding position is nice. But obviously. SUVs are hardly the last thing in driving dynamics. But truthfully, how often are you experiencing that last ten percent of performance in a sporty car. I get it. But also get it 😮
@@philipjames3526 You are quite right about the access, I turn 60 next month. Just love the more dynamics and looks, would prefer a Cayman but funds won't allow. Reckon the Celica is geniune future classic. Don't see this happening in suv world. Think smart watch, rather than a mechanical time piece. Cheers for replying.
@@markbrennan4693funny you should mention Cayman in an SUV/Crossover thread, because I have a 4.0 Boxster for my weekend thrills but absolutely love our Macan even though it’s only the 4cyl model - it’s such a brilliant all-rounder. The age of your Celica is making me think that you’re maybe stuck in the ‘90s with your assumptions regarding the handling deficiencies of SUVs - the current crop of “sporty” Crossovers are as far removed in their abilities from the early Merc ML’s and RAV4s as you’d find a new Cayman or GR86 would be to your Celica. Keep it as the “quirky fun classic” that it now is, but as a daily you won’t regret moving on…
Wait until everyone produces only EVs. Basically no difference between all brands.
Agreed. SUV = bus. Not interested in buses. £85K for a 4 pot, no button, expected to break down bus, no thanks. I'd rather buy a used M5
Would LOVE to see a video on the 94 Maserati Ghibli CUP 😊 Another great video Harry thanks 😊
Very nice review, as always! It would be interesting to see the Trofeo version. How it compares to the Alfa Romeo Stelvio quadrifoglio. I had a Stelvio quadrifoglio - probably the best handling sports SUV out there! The problem is this thing is so dynamic, you end up driving way too fast! Now driving a much more reasonable Levante modena - it's so nice looking and so Italian! Love it!
I like it a lot . But for the money I think I’d go for a Stelvio QV
Harry, I feel you, I have been a sucker for Maserati since the late 90s when I bought a biturbo, and drove from Boston to California and drive it daily for two years (!!). It never broke! I have owned several Ferrari’s since then (308, 355 spider, 365gtc) but the very late Merak SS I have now is the keeper, no hydraulics.
I should probably make a video on the Merak as I have stroked the engine to 3.3L and done some internal modifications (looks totally stock), but it has a bit over 300hp now at 7300rpm. It goes well. Very exciting car now. I call it the Merak R
Hopefully one day cars will look pretty again, but not yet it seems. It's hard to get excited about a boring looking blob of a car with a 2L engine.
Looks like a Ford Edge :/
Swap the badges over and from the front if you told me it was a Ford I'd have to really look. The grille I suppose, but yeah very uremarkable looking.
needs to be yellow
It's built on the Giorgio platform shared by the Giulia and Stelvio. Possibly one of the best platforms for any vehicle, ever. The multi-air 2.0L engine is also brought over from the Stelvio / Giulia. One of the best 2.0 4cyl engines on the market. Far from boring.
I see nothing boring about it. It’s quite good looking and the fact you f it being a 2L engine is irrelevant. It’s fast, it sounds great and it handles very well.
It's one of the most complete SUVs available at the moment. I'd have this over any of its rivals.
bravo
A fool and his money, etc.
Agree, finally an intelligent comment on this video.
The interior and build quality is really a step up from last-generation models and at an all-time high for the marque! If I bought one I'd spec it a cream or white leather interior. Very impressive debut 1st attempt in the segment from Maserati! Just thought I'd mention the Maserati Levante Trofeo a wonderful car!! operatic, theatrical, magical engine and exhaust sounds!!!
It's good news they made a competitive car and I hope it'll bring them success. Personally, I'd never be interested in an SUV, as it leaves me totally cold from a design point of view. But if this could be Maserati's Cayenne, it would mean they can produce more memorable shapes and that's always good news.
Anyone notice that when Harry did a close up on the dash central clock, the second hand was going the wrong way?? 😂
Can't believe the comments didn't light up with this 🤔
Another fun review Harry. Well Done! I'd have the F-Pace SVR...........Wait a minute I have one after seeing your review of that!
Had mine for 6 months and only issues so far have been with the alarm and some glitches on the screens. Car is a joy to drive on motorways and not too big to impractical round town. I had the Trofeo version for a week and its another level. Fantastic car with the V6 form the MC20 but a little much for daily use.
10:15 Harry is not only a great reviewer, but his magical wisdom can make a clock go back in time.
Stellantis/FCA's 2.0L four cylinder seems to be a pretty solid unit! From what I understand, a Giulia Ti Sport is a sweet spot for that car, thanks to the lighter front end from that smaller engine. I've driven a few Jeep models with it, and it's a perfectly fine unit. That Giorgio platform underpins the Giulia, Stelvio, Grecale, Gran Turismo (M189), and Grand Cherokee WL. Lovely platform.
Stellantis just makes me shudder - they are an horrific corp, most noted for bad customer service, poor Q.C. and over-charging for panels & spare parts to the point where near new cars are often written off due to minor accident damage.
@@Beer_Dad1975 Sir, that can be said for a lot of car companies. Tesla, Range Rover, Mercedes. Take your pick.
Found the Stellantis engineer
Yeah but it turned out to be seriously unreliable in the Giulia..
@@Kylirr He did say the truth, though. I mean, can you dispute it?
Very interesting review. And the sound is so high quality - I heard the raindrops splattering on the windshield as if I was there!
A very fair assessment. I have the Trofeo and it’s a fantastic fun car to drive 👌
I drove this four cylinder version a while back and then the twin turbo V6.
That V6 to me in my opinion was completely badass!
Totally different characteristics.
It felt a lot more playful.
Here in the US the one I was looking at after tax was around 126k for the V6 version.
Would I pay that having the money to do so? Hell yes!
I really like these vehicles.
I suspect the V6 version would bump his 8/10 rating to a 9 or even a 10.. Really interested to see his thoughts on that one.
I am the happy owner of a Trofeo since exactly one Year and I can tell you that with the V6 engine it’s a dream car
Two of my favourite cars of all time are the Ghibli and the Bora fro the late 60's's/70's, an era when 300+bhp meant at least 8 cylinders and big capacity with a decent soundtrack👍 It's interesting to see how modern tech is achieving high power from comparatively small engines while hitting ever tightening emission targets, even though they may lack character compared to their forbears. Big colour displays in cars are not my cup of tea I'm afraid and this particular genre of vehicle isn't one that interests me personally although this one does seem to offer a decent alternative for the money compared to the opposition.
Why is the clock ticking backwards at 10:10?🤔
It's a Stallantis product, so if anything significant goes wrong outside of warranty, or it has a minor prang, it'll go to the junk yard because of how insane their parts pricing is and how poor their after-market support is. As with so many "luxury" brands these days, they are lease and return - not own - and incredibly bad environmentally.
@@Beer_Dad1975 Leasing is not a protection financially. Might save you the headache but whatever you save in parts pricing you will lose in depreciation because no one wants to buy them until they're discountied 90%.
@@MRFUCKOFF202 It's a protection financially if you can claim it against a business or use a company novated lease system - yes, private leasing without any kind of tax break is probably not a great idea.
I had a Levante as a rental car and it felt like a jeep cherokee inside with some stainless accents. This is a much improved interior and i love the screen.
Thanks Harry - best part of Sundays - the problem I have with these screen dashboards is they will look so old hat in 10 years - Dials & clocks never date - well they might date , but they add charm!
7:02 the sound of the closing door is amazing!
Absolutely great first look!!!
Agree with your comments. £84k is expensive and must have most options ticked! I have a Modena Prima Series with most options included and cost less than this. Love the interior. The space etc. is better inside than a Macan. Coming from a heavier car, the handling is a revelation. But miss 6 cylinder. It is quick, fast enough for U.K. roads.
What a superb review… how on earth do you not have a million subscribers yet ?
Pretty much all of the e supercharger systems are only for low end response / transient torque fill. The ones I've seen in detail are only capable of running for short periods (20-30 sec max) as the energy involved is actually quite high therefore heat & energy storage become a problem quickly. The braap sounded very VAG to me. I'm guessing they've used some of the usual industry consultants / service providers to do the setup & tuning.
Excellent video, thanks! My wife and I only started watching when Binder won a few years ago and have been hooked since.
What a product from Maserati! Beating the market atm. AMAZING!! Thank You for video and review! (Y)
Seeing Harry smiling, Grecale must be a driver ´s car.
Great review, looks fantastic, Engine sounds great, comfortable and practical in a emotional way with excellent room and storage, big question is reliability and dealer network! I for one am tired of Maserati not having a higher class of dealerships and that is where it falls short but if you can get the price down by dickering then just maybe you can get past these issues!
Great to see your smile, Harry! Says it all for me
Can't wait to watch this vid!! I've been wondering the same thing myself, which might be best from that group, looking forward to your take on it Harry!
Great content as always - but do my eyes deceive me...!!?? On the clock close-up (10:09), the second hand appears to move backward.... didn't see time travel on the options list...!! 😄
I've got the new Macan S with the V6 380bhp and most of the extras the Grecale had for mid £60k's. The engine is silky smooth and has great punch but still returns over 30mpg. It is as Harry mentioned small inside so depends what you need the car to do. For me I'd not spend £80k for a 4 pot no matter what the badge. Always look forward to new vid from Harry on a Sunday afternoon.
I’m really impressed with this car, however, I dislike the Ford puma looking front end and the Mercedes looking rear end, otherwise, great review and would I consider one over the Germans , most definitely yes, but it is definitely Maserati being pushed down the road of this suv design trend. Ultimately, I would still choose a Range Rover for my needs 👍
what are you talking about? Ford probably took inspiration from Maserati in the first place, the front end is a direct inspiration from all the previous models starting with the 200S and the likes of the 4200GT.
@@nailil5722 Still looks like a Ford Puma
all these modes are so useful to optimize the school runs, probably the main use of those things!
A nice video. Grecale GT and Grecale Modena are cheap compared to the Macan and Macan T. However, the Macan S with its V6 engine of 380 HP is a bargain compared to the Grecale Modena (German prices).
Just got a jeep grand cherokee 2015 summit model. Nearly same sterring wheel and centre display screen (ride height achieved)
Boot and rear set set.
Referring back to one of your latest videos (Range vs X5), take this over the X5!!!
in the US, Maserati's depreciate in value faster than they accelerate. So I'd be interested in whether this one does any better in holding its value.
the best thing about the paddle shifters is that you don't need to use buttons P D N R because you can do everything with paddles, when you start the car with the right paddle you go to drive, if you want to reverse you press left paddle, if you want neutral press both paddles simultaneously, when you stop you don't need to put in Park to turn it off, after pressing Stop it goes to Park automatically. so you don't need to use the buttons at all.
Incredible to think this is Maserati's first attempt in this segment yet matches and even betters its rivals! In some departments e.g. build quality, straight-line speed (beats a BMW X4M Competition in a drag race!), betters a Macan for interior space and practicality etc..... This is a sign of great things to come from Maserati! as shown by the MC20! The Maserati Levante successor and Quattroporte successor should be no less than awesome! and best in class!
10:09. "You do get the Maserati clock..." - That's counting down to what? The Apocalypse?
I love that the paddles can change the direction from forward to reverse without taking your hands off the wheel. This is F-ing great idea. Congratulations Maserati. Who wants to be looking for buttons in a quick get away?
Nice piece of kit ❤ I think it looks very Porsche like. If you are concerned about the price tag of a new one just wait and get a 6 month old one, will be worth 50% less 😅
read my mind, here in the states they depreciate faster than Wiley Coyote falling off a cliff.
It looks very Ford Puma!
Looks just like a ford puma
I thought exactly the same as you!
Great minds think alike. 😅
I said exactly the same in my comment. What has happened to modern car design? This is just more jelly mould rubbish!
A fat puma, yes.
TBH the Puma is quite a fun quirky drive with that three cylinder engine, and probably one of the better looking crossover type vehicles around at present. Certainly not up the levels of the Maserati, but definitely cheap thrills.
The base car is £10K more than the Macan, it’ll also depreciate on an epic scale. Probably a bargain 2-3 years down the line…..
Yup. I checked out used Levantes recently. Shocking drop in price. Maserati REALLY needs to address this.
@@DDd-hr6mzlevantes, understandably they’ve been out dated for some years now with bad reliability hence the big drop in price. nobody wants them. the grecale on the other hand, just gonna have to wait and see in 2-3 years
@@sunnysaenngarm5375 I don't have any reading on the reliability on Levantes, and I really don't trust the surveys. Even if they were stone ax reliable, the stigma of the past will drag them down. Same with Alfa, which is unfortunate.
Nice car except for the backwards running clock
Enjoyed that Harry thanks. Do you have any plans to test the Audi RS6 performance, interested in what your thoughts would be.
it's the styling that lets it down massively.. But, as a used proposition for practical daily use.. probably well worth considering a couple of years down the line from now.. When they're at the same price as a 5 yr old Macan... Love the forward and reverse function on the paddles! Bloody brilliant idea!
It looks great inside out but a 2litre 4 cylinder in a 100K $ car is just laughable.
I like that Infotainment display
And it bodes well for long term maintainability, along with the twin charged hybrid drivetrain. Truly a future classic, sure never to depreciate.
@@944play I sense sarcasm....
@@alex_yates Pish tosh! I'm overjoyed that a storied marque is releasing another NPC gray midsize crossover.
Expensive shopping trolley, pub car, school run. Like using the battery boost- get rid of turbos. Great that cars like this are being made, but the character is getting ironed out now, they are all 2L vans. Love the video, Harry
Harry at the 10:10 timestamp you can see the clocks second hand was going backwards. Very strange.
Harry I enjoyed watching your honest way to go bringing out the good 👍 and the ➖ of your car review.
Top tips for when you need to squirt through Cotswold villages to find a better bit of road.
Great review. Love the Maserati brand👌🇮🇹🔥
For the love of God - no-one wants 101 different displays - they just want to get in a car and drive …. Drives me mental - I don’t want options, I just want a car …
You'll find (probably) that your tractor has a similar reverse/drive function, useful for loader work.
Love your enthusiasm Harry, and your passion , especially for a Maserati, I have to say, it’s better looking than the Macan, and will definitely appeal to those people who love the historic name….of Maserati 👍👌🇮🇲
😂
macan is getting replaced soon
That's a lot of cash for a name.
CAN THIS F-ING SUV TREND DIE ALREADY????
Lamborghini has sold more than 20,000 units of the Urus. This year Porsche has sold more Macans (20,841) than 911s, 718s, Taycans and Panameras COMBINED (appx. 20,400).
So, no. Not a chance, unfortunately.
They allow brands to thrive with great sales figures, plus they offer a little practicality for petrolheads and badge chasers alike. Not my cup of tea particularly, but I can see the attraction. Just listen to Harry's summation.
Thank you Harry. Do try the Alpina XD3 soon for comparison. Same BHP but 516lb ft (700nm) from a sonorous BMW straight-six diesel with its best-in-class 8-speed ZF box and iDrive comms. More room than the too-ubiquitous Macan; and much rarer. I bought one.
Sounds good, quite like a Golf R with the DSG farts. I've seen them at my local dealers and was put off by the 2.0L "hybrid" engine.
I took one out, it was really nice, it’s different and the badge is cool.
+1 .. The very best in the business, Harry's Garage and Harry's Farm. .. I wouldn't miss either one. . Cheers, Colorado 8,150FT
Do not wish to bash this car too much. It's pretty good for what it is and will hopefully create a cash cow for our beloved brand to then build the pure Maseratis we lust after.
Did you notice the clock second hand is going anti-clockwise? (See at 10:10 in the video)
Do the clocks go backwards in all the new Maserati or is it a feature of this model?
Came here to comment the same thing
Later on it ticks clockwise, so I assume he reversed that clip
Where is your Italian sense of passion, man. 😄
It's so fast that it goes back in time
@@danmayberry1185 I guess in the past
Shame there’s no oval gold clock! 😎
Love the FCA Giorgio platform - but missed opportunity they haven’t used it for cool retro-ish Fiats - yet. They could be perfect cut-price folk-sporty alternative.
"I like this rain. Car moves around." [Note opposite lock through favourite corners] Brown seat moment for most of the rest of us 😁
A Maserati SUV. Where have we gone wrong?
what's wrong with that lol times change
This is entirely the fault of the Governments you have elected, these crossovers only exist due to emissions regulations.
Marketing way it's wrong
@@connormatthews522 very bad changes....
You also have Ferrari SUV, now that's bad. Lmao
This is a fantastic car. Just bought it. It looks miles better and more stunning than Macan.
that paddle feature would be quite useful to extricate oneself from a snowy or muddy situation
Thanks for the review! It looks a lot like a Macan outside. And like a Macan, it's not trying to be a sports car. It's a practical 'sporty' SUV at the upper end of the segment. So in this day and age the four cylinder engine, that works well, is what is needed. Many people who buy this, or a Macan, will have another car, and that's quite likely to be a sports car. It's great Maserati have got this one right, I like them being around and offering something different!
Great car. But there’s certainly a price sticking point. £74K++ to kit it correctly, and only a 4cc. Trofeo would be the ideal, but for that money I’d rather a Levante.. but then it’s more money again. I’m also a big fan of Maserati, very much so. Another great video Harry, I enjoy them all, thank you!
I would love to say to the Mrs, I'll take the Maserati dear'. Good review Harry. Your best.
Wonderful, the rear of the car is particularly beautiful.
Looks exactly like a Fiat Tipo from the rear - 😢
It's identical to a Ford Puma at the front. Lazy design.
I guess what Harry is thinking is somewhere along the lines of "i kinda like this car but OMG is 84k a lot for a car that will be sold for half in a couple years".
That said this car should be driven and tested by Jack of Number 27 too. He and his viewers might like that!
I SEE A HARRY'S GARAGE VID AND I STOP AND CLICK. SIMPLE.
Great review Harry. I don't really get the whole SUV thing. I understand the higher driving position to get a more commanding view, however, when everyone is driving one then that is neutralised. As for this Maserati, well the name conjures up a great motoring history, however, this SUV looks just like many others on the road today (Macan, CX6 / CX5, etc.). So it's no wonder Masarati feel the need to offer an option of having the name etched into the lights. If you were the owner you'd never find it in the supermarket car park.
Here in Canada, crossover vehicles are now the best sellers. When you have to deal with snow covered roads for several months out of the year, you appreciate the higher ground clearance. A couple of winters ago, a friend ripped the exhaust system off his BMW sedan on a road with impacted snow and ice. Then there's the usable space a crossover affords with 5 doors and a tall boot, great for dogs or whatever cargo you need to carry. Families love them.
Clearly a very lucrative market for luxury brands… pity they’re all prepared to throw away their heritage for the fad
right? It is almost like they are companies with the sole purpose of making money. Crazy
I’m afraid this car leaves me completely cold. I’m probably getting old.
Agreed. “Save the planet; build two and a half tonne four wheel drive blobs.”
Capitalism cares not for heritage! Unless it can exploit it
@@jamesbarrett5534 couldn’t agree more… like an appliance, a toaster or kettle
Harry, nice review. I have also owned several Maseratis. After spending a week with the grecale modena I agree with your statement that it's missing a bit of that charisma. I just replaced my Quattroporte with a levante trofeo. The levante dispite not being a polished as the grecale still has that special sauce, not sure if it's the longer hood, frameless windows of sound of the 590hp Ferrari built v8. It was also way less than the grecale is I picked one up used. You should sample the trofeo products. They a quite different than the modena and GT trims... Love the channel btw.
It's good to see this, there aren't enough large executive SUV's on sale now.
Now all the large executives will be happy.
Lovely looking drivers seat
I was just thinking that Maserati clock looks loads better than the old mechanical one, and then I see it's running backwards??
😂😂😂 I saw that too. I think it's something with the camera and it being so close. On the zoomed-out shit it's running "normally" lol.
Lovely review. Have to test drive one when the lease is up.
The only difference between these sporting SUVs is the badge, identity is a thing of the past.
I think Maserati have done a great job with this 👍 I know that we’d all like the V6 but this really gives you everything you need as a practical daily driver and something that is a bit more ‘special’ than an equivalent priced BMW/Audi etc
So many lovely colours to choose from and the press car is this grey - that said I like the thing! Looks great, colour aside and it the engine is clever!
Great review of what is a Sorrento Lemon. This will depreciate quicker than it hits sixty.
16:48 love the fart noise as it changes gear 😃
Hi Harry, another great video which as all the others is so greatly appreciated. I have to say that this Maserati Grecale Modena in the colour you got is a seriously beautiful looking vehicle and which sounds great as you smash the accelerator and it flies up the road. I think the only things that is missing is like you mention in the video, is that magical Maserati sound from starting and the cost issue. Please lets us know if you change your mind though, and/or which Maserati you go for to scratch that Maserati itch. Best regards Jason
Harry, if you fancy another Maser, buy yourself a Merak! The sleeper of the decade, and one of my all time favourites. Simples!
I’ll keep my 4.7l V8 QP5 S and £70k to play with cheers Harry!
Really like Harry but couldn’t be arsed learning about this vehicle.
Quite like the look of that, bit like my Cayenne actually. Trouble is it cost twice as much (as I paid), has half the engine and no lovely buttons!!! Maserati are producing the goods but will it sell + deprecation?