Alfa Romeo Giulia 2.0l with 400hp Hybrid Turbo - boost and intake temperatures -- 29psi!!!
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- We did datalogging on the boost and intake temperatures of the gottuned 400hp hybrid turbo on the Alfa Romeo Giulia ti 2.0l. We looked at MES or multiecuscan datalogs versus JB4 versus the Vaitrix boost gauge direct wired to the map sensor.
We purposefully heat soaked the car and evaluated how well the stock air to water intercooling system works as well as the potential for a heat exchanger upgrade.
Turbo was purchased at:
muchboost.com/product/fca-gme-t4-2-0t-2-0tbi-hybrid-turbo-upgrade-alfa-romeo-stelvio-giulia-jeep-cherokee/
You are playing a big part in moving this platform forward and it inspires me to do the same. Subbed for more progress
Thanks brother!
Yes this platform needs more attention which equals to more aftermarket parts and upgrades.
Damn, you have tuner houses like Eurocompulsion watching your build. Very excited to see how the 2.0 liter handles this tune long term. Could set a new standard for tuning Giulias.
Thanks man me too.
Love that ppl are developing this car,
Keep up the great work!
Thanks man!
Great Video Michael! Interesting stuff. One thing to point out is that the at 14:52 you're pointing at the HT radiator (Heat Exchanger). The LT System's Radiator (Heat exchanger) is the one in the middle with the degassing pipe connected to the LT systems coolant resevoir. Subbed for more videos.
Thank you for that! Yes thank you for pointing that out. Its hard holding the camera and pointing lol. I noticed that as i watched it grrr
@@bhvrdr Sure thing. I wasn't sure if you were pointing at the middle or back one, but later you mentioned it being behind the others so thought I would share. Once again great video!
This is awesome! I'm definitely following in your footsteps and will be doing the same for my own Giulia before Spring comes back in the Northeast (especially so as track days start up again). The way that you explained/presented this information is really accessible, and definitely inspires much more confidence for me, especially as my intentions are the same (with reliability, track-worthiness, and consistent daily-ability). Thanks for giving this update again and am looking forward to seeing more experimentation and validation!
Thanks for the feedback man! Im happy to help you out, just reach out when you get started.
@@bhvrdr could you give us an up to date mod list? I have not received any hard evidence that anything besides a hybrid turbo, a tune, and cooling for the hybrid has resulted in measurable gains. I’m bone stock with a jb4 and custom boost map. I’ve seen 1 person add 2.5mph to his 1/4 with a 3 inch exhaust but he didn’t show DA or Temp differences in the video so it’s inconclusive.
@@briarm9331 its just jb4 and turbo. Stock cooling and exhaust. Nobody has been faster with testpipes than cars with stock exhaust given the same density altitude. The fastest hybrid turbo out there isxon stock exhaust and intake and the record holding stock turbo times are also on stock exhaust and intake.
This is serious power from a 2.0. very nice.
Thanks brother
Not really a few2.0 litre golf,r in the UK running 750 bhp on stock internals
@@Vteccer666 this engine is slightly different;)
@@Vteccer666 not all 2.0 liters engines are the same
@@Vteccer666those are stock 360+ idiot this not....so internals are weaker
I own a 2019 guilia ti sport ..
I absolutely love it I’ve always had modified cars but I have not yet started to modify my Guilia yet.. pretty soon I’m gonna start ordering some parts .. I hate the rev limiter and I am truly looking forward to Unlocking the full potential of this car with a tune Then down the road downpipe intake not sure what I’m doing with the exhaust yet I don’t want it to be too loud this is an awesome video thank you so much for the great contents I’m really looking forward to seeing your build evolve.
Thanks Larry! Have a great time with it.
Did you end up doing anything to your Giulia?
@@ablusive227 I ended up doing a muffler delete along with aftermarket intake. .. I enjoy the car very much for a couple years, but I had to let it go for a couple reasons..
I now daily the Tesla 2023 model 3 long range and could not be happier
Hope this isn’t too much to ask for, but I would really like a video on how you ran the wiring and installation for the boost gauge!
Great idea. Ill do that
I like to display fuel trims along with true vacuum/boost. I really can't understand why some boost displays only show positive boost.
Good point
Awesome!. I'll take it!. However, the big issue of this kind of tuning (reprogramming), means you will lose the Alfa Romeo's guarantee for all new models (at least here in South America), so you should be aware about this point. Great work by the way.
Thank you! I use jb4 which is invisible to diagnostic computers once removed and the turbo uses the exact OEM turbo housing. You can't even tell it's not stock. Already had a warranty claim approved.
Goals! I’m definitely looking into it
Its awesome. Thanks for the comment. Feel free to reach out when you do it
Keep these up!
I read up on the drivetrain on the 2.0 Giulia. The transmission is a ZF8HP50 which is rated for 400 horsepower and roughly 370lbft torque according to ZF. Have you had any transmission issues with your Giulia? I want to get mine to 400hp but the last thing I want is to be replacing transmissions.
Never heard of single issue with our zf8. No issues at all and I regularly brake torque it
This is awesome! You’ve inspired me to follow in your footsteps once my warranty goes out haha. How do you think the 2.0 Differentials/axles will handle this over time with the extra strain?
So far no issue at all. We'll see ;)
I am planning on getting the turbo. I went to the link you have provided and there seems to be a 430 options? Was this here before or something new?
Can you make a video for the bright finish aluminium tecnico wheels on the veloce (ti sport) 👍
Very informative video, this is the direction I want to go with, what did this whole build cost you?
What is the tuning situation like for this car? I'm coming from the VW/Audi 2.0T world where there are multiple vendors for generic Stage 1/2/3 tunes like APR and IE and a handful of independent custom tuners like Ward Performance Tuning. Are there any trusted folks creating custom tunes for these cars? Looks like Eurocompulsion is the go-to for staged upgrades.
The "tunes" for these cars modify pretty much boost only. The tuners like squadra and eurocompulsion don't know how to get much timing out of the cars with multiair so the jb4 piggyback gives just as much power. Right now jb4 is best bet as its fully removable and customizable.
I'm ordering the 430. Any supporting mods you recommend? How hard is the install?
Thanks for your Video's, I have a JB4 on my 2.0 Giulia, all else is stock, do you have an additional tune for the stock motor, that is better than the one provided by JB4?
Not better. Map 1 is great for all conditions. Map 2 is great for cool weather. I have a few custom ones i made that split the difference but you're talking 2hp here or there. Hit me up on giuliaforums and ill share what i have
Any other upgrades with the turbo? Like extra things for the reliability and power! Please if possible list all the things!!! Rly want to do this and great vid brotha!
None at all. Turbo and jb4. Car has stock intake, exhaust, cooling... everything
@@bhvrdr Thank you! Also any check engine light and what’s the fastest 0-60!
@@muzzammilzaheer3807 no cel. Its rwd so 0-60 is limited due to wheel spin. Its in the high 3s to low 4s depending on traction.
@@bhvrdr wont a a 200cell cat with catback lower the temperature of the engine. Or does stock stuff flow verry good ?
Do more videos on this g
You got it 🙂
Hey! Been digging through the old forums and reading your progress. I’m starting to catch up with my check list before the turbo upgrade. My question is about the heat exchanger, did you ever get it mounted and what did you go with?
It’s probably the last tick on my box because I don’t think I’m going to do catless downpipe… car is already loud with the muffler delete :/
Yeah Stock cat works just fine and doesn't rob performance much at all. I never did heat exchanger as i decided to buy a track car so this one is just hard performance driving on roads. No issues with stick cooling for that. I would have used the Edelbrock 15409
@@bhvrdr awesome! Thanks for the reply. I’ve started documenting my mods… I just HATE video editing. Hopefully start throwing them up here in the next couple of months and pick up where you kind of left off for people still interested in modifying these vehicles. That and just installing things, cringing in one of the groups where people were routing the jb4 obd wire through the door. That’s kinda what it motivating me.
@@tonunknown1 good luck man. Look forward to seeing it
sorry for wakeup, but do ya think that it would need that much concerns with heatexchanger if going on 370 HP variant? thanx for answer
I just purchased a Giulia 2.0t AWD. Would you recommend jb4 or Squadra if I want to go hybrid or big turbo later on?
Youd need a jb4. Squadra will only work on stock turbo.
So I actually just did a prosport boost gauge by tapping into the charge pipe with a small nipple to read boost mechanically (solely bc I wasn’t satisfied with the appearance of the plug and play vaitrix gauge) boost reads nicely up to 24psi on completely factory setup except for the GFB DV+ upgrade. My question is regarding vacuum tho, it reads a completely flat steady 0 at idle, there is no negative inHg. I was wondering, is the factory MAP sensor reading vacuum from somewhere other than the charge pipe? It looks like your vaitrix gauge is showing negative vacuum at idle if I’m seeing clearly in your video
You're exactly right in that the factory boost sensor is located in the intake manifold so you will get a different boost reading then tapping the boost pipe and different vacuum reading probably as well
@@bhvrdr so by your data you are saying the vaitrix gauge (which is confirming what the MAP sensor is reading) should be showing higher boost after the intercooler than what the JB4 was reading which is supposed to be designed to read boost at the charge pipe? Did I understand that correctly when you talked about where the JB4 was designed to be taking boost reading from?
@@rs562_ the vaitrix boost gauge TAPS at the intake manifold boost sensor which is where the vehicle ECU gets it's data. Jb4 modeled their boost ratings off of a boost tap that they did at the boost tube like you did and like a lot of folks do. The boost to readings will be 2 to 3 PSI lower than the intake manifold readings which are the readings the car is normally seeing
@@bhvrdr nice, so the engine is actually receiving slightly more psi than I’m seeing from the boost tube. Thanks for sharing this highly detailed video and for answering my questions! Is this motor design different from “usual” turbo motors that it doesn’t read vacuum in the charge pipe at all? Or is that pretty standard for that boost tap location pre-intercooler? I know everything’s controlled electronically on this engine so wasn’t sure if that’s different on this car by design or if it’s just because of the tap location I used that I would never expect to see vacuum there?
@@rs562_ yes you are correct the car is making at least 2psi more than what you're reading at the tube. As for vacuum I'm not 100 percent as I e never tapped at the boost tube myself so I don't know if it's a gauge calibration issue or a hardware design at the boost tube but I see no reason you wouldn't see vacuum there.
Hello,
Can i ask about who makes the custom map for you and the custom map in jb4 is map 6?
I made it. Yes map 6 is fully programmable. I have plenty of experience calibrating s9 this is extremely simple. I posted my maps on giuliaforums for anyone to use
What about get big hp games. The block is forged supposeably. So if u do down pipe, intercooler, oil catch can, e85 an a bigger turbo with a chip ecu like a standalone. U dnt think u can get 6-700hp. Cuz on the kseries swap u do that an ur at 5-600hp stock block an it's aluminum. Compare too the alfa it's the same thing 2.0 with a turbo. Just has forges internal or block. So u think there's more power potential. Cuz even the q50 can push 800-600 after everything is upgraded.
Alfa messed up in the early advertising. Pistons are cast but cast doesn't automatically mean weaker. e85 or e40 tuning has been the limitation. Nobody has done it yet. Supposedly ideal race may. There is a bigger hybrid available now too. I believe 450 HP or so will be the next testing point for folks
@bhvrdr the only reason I brought it up for discussion was cuz some one in a video was like ya forged block or pistons. So I was like there like n54 then they can wit stand alot of boost for more power. But u just cleared the air now. Alfa is more like shits an giggles if u want power then it's not the route I assume. Cuz I'm in the market for a car an alfa was one of them wanted to see wts maximum potential. Ur the only video I found that has 400hp. It's get a q50 3.7 or alfa 2.0t but I thinking just wait an pull the trigger on a f80 m3. Cuz the alfa is nice but I like to have power cuz I tend to get bored of cars. Thanks for the response
Hey where would I purchase a hybrid turbo for the giulia? This is amazing . Subbing now
Thanks brother...
muchboost.com/product/fca-gme-t4-2-0t-2-0tbi-hybrid-turbo-upgrade-alfa-romeo-stelvio-giulia-jeep-cherokee/
Hey great video and really cant wait to get my hybrid turbo. Was waiting for eurocompulsion to launch but taking too long! Do you have any times like 0-60mph to see improvement? Also can I get jb4 in uk?
Thanks! I've done 4.00 to 60mph with rwd slipping. Id ask terry at bms if he can sent you one there
Hmmm I thought it would do a little under that tbh with the extra power. I have eurocompulsion v2 intake and filter, throttle control with launch assist, ecu remap to 327bhp, gfb diverter valve, premium non runflat tyres and get about 0-60 in 4.5 RWD with 95 octane so I'd be hoping for room for improvement on that :D my concern with jb4 is it's a piggyback right? Would a permanent tune be better and if so where would do this for the hybrid turbo as I know not a lot of people have tested this yet?
@@09kevinmoore its rwd. 0-60 is about traction as much as power. If you want power measurements you look at trap speed and 60-130. Currently jb4 is giving fastest times of any of the hybrid turbo including those custom tuned. Jb4 can bypass torque limits.
Ah okay well thats good to know. Just never used a piggyback before. Will the map for the hybrid turbo overwrite my current or do I have to reset to stock first? Is bypassing the torque limit safe?
@@09kevinmoore the hybrid turbo map will be in the map 6 slot. You can still have access to map 0 (stock), 1, 2, 3 which are for stock turbo. Yes you want to bypass torque limiters to make power. All engine safeties remain. If you dont want to bypass torque limiters you can just set it for less power too. Completely adjustable
I know this is an older video, but I have watched all of your Giulia videos and I wonder if I could pick your brain for just a few moments. I have a 2019 TI Sport and I just ordered the JB4. I'm just wondering if they have fixed the map 2 issues? JB4 is telling me up to 8 maps available but I know that is a blanket comment to cover all available vehicles. Just curious what luck you have had with the maps. I currently have just an intake on the car. I will be installing an AFE axle back exhaust as well as a Go Fast Bits billet diverter valve upgrade at the same time as the JB4.
Basically they now have 3 maps for all conditions. The map 2 issue was only an issue in warm weather and on cars that had the w05 software update. It was an aggressive file. So they kept it but now it's called map 3. It will work for 99 percent but you can choose the latest map 1 or 2 if it's too aggressive. Honestly I have zero issue with map 1. It's a great map to use
@@bhvrdr The other question I have is the fuel. I know you only run Shell 93 octane in your car. Unfortunately I live in northern Arizona and the highest I can get is 91 octane at the pump. Would you recommend I run an octane booster in each tank? Do you think I will be okay on the maps? Sorry to bombard you with so many questions. I just really like to educate myself on everything with my car.
@@drivingonimpulse no problem. 91 is just fine. The timing on these cars is extremely conservative. Octane booster will just leave orange deposits all over your pistons, plugs, cats, O2 sensors.
@@bhvrdr Gotcha. That makes sense. Is there really a noticeable difference between maps 1, 2, and 3? I assume is just slightly more aggressive boost and timing. If it throws the car in limp mode I'm assuming I just re flash to the next tune down and try again. I'm also at an elevation disadvantage as I live at 5000 ft. And thank you again for taking the time to chat. I absolutely LOVE this car. So getting some extra oomph out of her is exciting.
@@drivingonimpulse extremely little difference
What would be the top speed, after this remap and with this mods ? Also 0-100kmh times ? I manage to do under 5 secons with 315/320 on my Giulia and Top Speed around 264 km/h
No idea on top speed as most tracks i run are limited by the length of the straight not the car. 0-100 is 4.0 on rwd. Im sure a q4 could touch 3.9
@@bhvrdr thanks, mine is indeed Q4
so if i get the hybrid turbo the ec stage 2 tune becomes useless and ill need a jb4 to retune and get some power? also is there a rig video for the boost guage id like to get one
Correct. You cant run stock turbo software on a hybrid. They request biist down low and very little up top. You want the opposite. The boist gauge is vaitrix and available through eurocompulsion and others. They have install instructions online but its not hard to figure out.
@@bhvrdr thank you i will following the build but also check out the camshaft multi air and development made for the giulia 2.0 i wanna know more about it and if its worth buying and installing
Might do this on my JL
You have Boost sensor and intake manifold pressure sensor. MES can get both, i think Box need to be connected also to both sensors, so you can choose, what measurement you get from MES to compare.
The box just sees voltage as that's what the sensors are. Then the tuner calibrates / interprets. The jb4 is interpreted by the tuner off the boost tube which is why the boost reads low compared to true intake manifold psi
@@bhvrdr sure, but for each sensor you have datasheet with calibration data, ECU use those parameters, Jb4 also should use same ones.
@@michapawowski6188 jb4 had to manually calibrate versus a mechanical boost gauge that was hooked up to the boost tube. You can see readings are different but jb4 was hooked up to the same sensor as the gauge
@@bhvrdr why they need to do this manually?
@@michapawowski6188 I don't believe they had datasheet for the sensors. Even other tuners contacted me for the datasheet for intake air temperature as they are pulling the incorrect data of turbo coolant temperature instead but Terry at jb4 had to model it. I got the datasheets from giuliaforums and those were not correct either
I am about to pull the trigger for 8speed giulia veloce q4. It will be the first alfa for me. I am skeptical about engine longevity after tune. Since its open deck, not sure how much boost can it handle… redline is strangely low… all those make me worried about the engine longevity… another thinkg is no esp switch and speed limit. I am driving bmw 428i and not sure if I go for a chanfge or not… thanks
Its been a pretty reliable engine. Very few failures. Luckily you can code in race mode which removes esp and tc. Its a very fun car. Turn in is otherworldly.
@@bhvrdr thanks for your answer.
Just curious, is it 400hp to the wheels or 59 the crank, I’m looking to upgrade my Giulia’s performance.
Crank hp. Stock turbo is maxed about 320 crank horsepower
Hey. I know this is totally out of topic. But what rotors do you buy? I’m not looking for anything fancy. Just some spirited driving on the back roads here and there. Do you have an exact link to the ones you bought?
I buy the OEM brembos but im not saying theyre the only ones to get.
m.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/brake-disc-10132/alfa-romeo/giulia/giulia-952/121146-2-0
@@bhvrdr I'm just not trying to spend too much on rotors. Do you recommend any others which are good rotors for not too much money? Or OEM is the way to go when it comes to price. Wanted R1 concepts but they are out of stock
@@dawudrashid1515 the oem brembos i linked were like 60 bucks each and 80 bucks each shipped to my door in the usa.
@@bhvrdr sounds great. I think i will go for the OEMS then. Thanks a bunch. Also looking forward to what else have you done with your giulia
@@dawudrashid1515 thanks man. EBC rotors are another option
What power is this hybrid putting down to the wheels
Wheels is around 12 percent drivetrain loss. Dynos are all over the place from 6 percent to 25 percent as they all read differently
Hey! Seems like a hell of an upgrade, especially performance-wise. I can't believe You're making 4.0sec 0-60 and below 11sec 60-120. that's a wow for such engine.
I understand from the comments below that the engine wasn't touched, so the internals must be really strong, and You must be even running on stock injectors, but my major question is : does such a heavy mod apply to both the rwd/awd version and both manual/auto or there are any sort of limitiations in this field ? thanks!
Hi there thank you for your feedback. Because this turbo gives more power in the upper rev band it doesn't necessarily have much more torque down low which is what can destroy things like transmissions and rods and axles. It is okay for both rear wheel drive and all wheel drive cars. I cannot speak to the robustness of manual transmission cars though because we don't get them in the United States.
@@bhvrdr Thanks ! I don't know why but I thought Yours were manual..:) Anyway, what's the actual torque number it's making then? This car seems to have a huge potential with minimal tuning effort/mods...
According to the film, 4.28sec and 13.27 are Your best times 0-60, 60-130?
czcams.com/video/rwsf11RReU8/video.html
@@k_s.m I would guess around 350 to 360 tq. Horsepower (top end) is what gives acceleration and that's where bigger gains are here. Ive done 4.00 time 0-60. An AWD car would do better
@@bhvrdr That's insane then.Than would be around 4.2sec 0-100...which is crazy fast daily.
@@bhvrdr One more thing - Do You remember what times You were getting on jb4 ?
Could we get some real dyno numbers in the future 😁?
Dynos can say anything you want. Trap speeds cant be faked.
Is this on stock turbo or aftermarket turbo that you are running on the giulia?
Gottuned 400hp hybrid turbo
Update if the hybrid turbos had any problems ?
In testing at around 31psi i did blow the turbo. This was after being viven permission by the muchboost team to literally run it above warranty limits to see what breaks so they can learn from it and mske it stronger. No issues at all at 28psi though
Hows this setup holding up after a year ?
Im waiting on my upgraded turbo 350hp+
Awesome you'll love it
@@bhvrdr thanks man, having some problems right now mixing oil with coolant on the passenger side thing
@@laparitatusupite2143 check the oil cooler
Can we get another update on this?
I've never heard of a two point oh litre motor?? Is is a second gen engine or something? I know of a two. zero, three .zero on up, etc.
Blame the British with James bond double "oh" seven lol. The o stands for obsessive compulsive
Hey man, I have the BMS filter, and exhaust, good to run your MAP 6 settings?
Do you have an upgraded hybrid turbo. I have settings for that. For stock turbo i have maps too but map 1 and 2 are great
@@bhvrdr sorry I should have specified. Stock turbo, wanting the best results and I’ve seen your map 6. Finally found your CZcams haha
@@jakem9178 haha, yeah that map will work;)
Hi ,I have a question for you , when you install the turbo you remap the the car cpu or just plug and play? I want order one to for my car and I want know if the turbo working well even without remapping the cpu , thanks for your reply look forward
It will work on stock tune. To get additional power you need jb4 or flash tune
@@bhvrdr right now I use a madness max power pro , I still can leave the piggy module on?
@@bhvrdr I want order the 400 hp version of the turbo , but if I leave with stock tune don't give me the 400hp ? I have to flash tune or jb4 for the max power ? In this case 400hp, a much power I have if I leave the stock tune?
@@nunziogalioto1901 stock tune is close to stock power. Keep in mind the oem tune targets 280hp.
@@nunziogalioto1901 no youll get rid of that. It wont work.
Do you have PIDs for fuel, corrections and ignition timing and well as ignition retard/compensation? If so can you share?
That turbo will messed up the warranty or the engine? Because that’s a lot of hp
Technically it will. Even just a tune will but its neat the turbo is identical to oem on tje outside. Its indistinguishable from the stock turbo
Sooo what i need to make this possible without a check engine light the hybrid turbo n what else?
@@pedromelendez5227 it will run on stock software without cel but you wont get power. Jb4 will get you power and no cel. You only get cel from going with a testpipe.
How about a turbo lag, responsiveness, especially at lower rpms, how does it compare to the stock turbo?
The turbo makes outstanding boost still at 2500rpm and only peaks about 500rpm later. The powerband is now linear where you build power all the way to redline unlike the stocker that literally spikes at 2k rpm when you don't need boost and dies off by redline where you do need boost
Perfect, how about the turbolag, responsiveness?
Dare i ask, what's the 0-60 now?
0-60 is all about traction. Without adding grip you're 0-60 can actually get worse the more powerful the car is. I do 4.0 to 60 but thats spinning. The important numbers to me are 60-130 which is improved by 3 seconds :)
What app is that on ur phone showing all those gages?
Jb4. They are real time data logging capability. Much muchuch better sample rate than Bluetooth programs like torque
What do you say to people that may call you an idiot for pushing this car? I'm coming from the Subaru community where even though its "unreliable", pushing things are encouraged. I just made a post to the alfa giulia owners FB group asking if anyone would like me to do an install video on a downpipe and was immediately met with backlash by some guy "shaking his head" that i would even mention putting a catless downpipe on. Said it sounds like shit, does nothing, and smells awful. Where has the car community gone? Or are newer platforms always like this?
These cars are stout. Zf8 is awesome transmission. 2.0l is pretty reliable so far. That said the catless downpipe will not help much at all and has alot of drawbacks from instant warranty denial to sounding poor to bad emissions and smell to p0420 cel and definitely dont use the mini cat defoulers as they will mae the ecu think its running lean.
The transmission is bulletproof and the entire motor rotating assembly is forged aluminum. The strength of the power train doesn't scare me. The surrounding components and rather unusual nature of the multiair system is what scares me. I don't have the money or resources to risk throwing away an entire car if my Giulia blows up.
Old school WRX/STi Suby guy here (and an Alfa guy since the 90's) I'd add that it's getting nearly impossible to find a tuner for catless cars. The risk of crushing financial penalties is too high. (and it smells like hell!) You can get better flowing downpipes with high flow cats / GESI that essentially outperform the old catless pipes that we were throwing on our bugeye rex's back in 2002. I agree with the feeling though...especially on some particular euro forums. You have uber snob QV guys that dash any idea that a non-QV should be seeking performance improvements (What are ya, a poser?!?!) and the other guys who think it's perfect out of the box and we should all leave them alone, keep your warranty and resale value for when you trade it in to maximize your returns (or something).lol
Euro + drive phase 2 or jb4 map2 is better for this turbo or what is tha stronger by the way
Future thx
You have to use jb4 because you can make a boost map on jb4 that perfectly mirrors this turbos new boost profile. No stock turbo tune will work.
Okay , as a stock turbo which tune is stronger
And any information for how much can stock engine internals can handle
@@22Bob ah, for stock turbo jb4 is...
www.giuliaforums.com/threads/official-1-8-mile-1-4-mile-40-100mph-0-130mph-60-130mph-dragy-and-timeslip-drag-database-how-fast-are-you.49438/#post-845628
@@22Bob stock internals are having zero issues with tje hybrid turbos out there. No way to know the absolute limits until people start breaking things but we're not there yet
what about stelvio t sports. will this tune work
Yes. Same engines
@@bhvrdr can you post a new video I wanna see how your 400 hp is rolling
Check 100-200?
11.34 seconds
hey im debating on getting a 2.0 rwd giulia to build, hows it work for autocross
Its great for a sedan. You need to install race mode so you can defeat tc/ecs but otherwise its a light sedan with incredible front end grip
@@bhvrdr yeah i assumed that, on the qv the race mode still has traction control at very low speeds does it do that if you install it on your own
@@bhvrdr also what were the engine mods you did for extra horsepower, i was looking at the 400 hybrid turbo you installed along w a squadra tune
@@dameonc1224 just the turbo is all you need. Downpipe and intake is only maybe 5 more hp
Is that a stock turbo or
Gottuned.com 400hp hybrid turbo
What mods do you have done so far?
All stock except hybrid turbo and jb4
@@bhvrdr so do you think getting an intake and exhaust with the turbo would be too much for the engine
@@bhadguygaming9726 not at all. It will do nothing. My trap speeds and 60-130 are the best if all the hybrid turbo out there with people running testpipes. They do nothing.
@@bhvrdr thank you bro hope we stay in touch so I can learn more about it
Need cooling upgrades.. Squadra has a more refined, more powerful tune. JB4's are rubbish on these engines.
Nope already checked the intake air temps. They're decreasing with rpm so perfect. My car is faster and smooth. I'm working with folks now with squadra tune who aren't making power who are switching to jb4. Just check the 1/4 mile leader board and you'll see
I cant see 110 hp more dropping 0-60 from high 5's to low 4's. Noooo. High 4's yes. Adding 10-11 mph in the 1/4 is about right for 95-110 aditional hp. Dropping a full sec off the time is realistic as well. But these cars get smoked by bmw 328/330 turbo 4's, and Audi A4 2.0T, and new Kia Stinger 2.5T
I've never run high 5s in these cars. They run low 5s stock. In good air people have been in high 4s stock.
You got your data wrong. Stock these are faster.....
caranddriver.com/reviews/comparison-test/a30536061/2019-alfa-romeo-giulia-vs-2019-bmw-330i-vs-2020-genesis-g70-vs-2020-volvo-s60/