Traditional Handmade Hoplite Armour | History In The Making
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- čas přidán 10. 05. 2018
- See how traditional methods are used to make hoplite armour, just as the Ancient Greeks would have done it.
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great work by the armorer! shitty and full of misinformation/debunked old theories commentary by the commentator....especially the part about "later armors were made of leather, linen even!"....metallic and organic armor existed together, one is a fandomentally cheaper and the other more pricy than the other....although a hoplite who wanted to give some love to his linothorax or spolas could turn it into something that protected and costed as much as a bronze thorax.
Was about to link you this video. Glad you found it. :)
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He's good at his profession! Really good! I'd buy armor from him if I ever needed one
Thak Ironworks--it's on CZcams; guy actually uploaded multiple breastplate vids!
Great now show the finished product wtf
I think his channel is Thak Ironworks, he has a lot of video’s
@@duncanschrijvershof7029 You are right thanks for letting us know his channel
Go to quest on demand. There you will find full episodes.
Good work
This is beautiful
That armor look dangerously thin
I mean they were later replaced with something made from plants so they weren’t that great no
I mean it's also made of bronze not very strong
It's like 1.6mm thin and surprising strong enough to stop a iron spear head penetrating you. The steel ones are about the same thickness and can stop a 160lb English longbow
Would be interesting to see what gold would look like. Homers illiad mentioned an exchange if breastplates between a Greek and Trojan with family friend connections. One was gold the other bronze.
@Xaris Xeros Do you have a source for that process?
@Xaris Xeros but what's your parameters for Sanity? is it by comparing our modern understanding to the past or from a actual subject of the era and understanding what their Norms were? you cannot apply a modern sentiment to the past without qualifying it in that same period. To help give a little bit more body to your hypothesis is the idea there is the possibility of electroplating existing but I am myself not familiar with the process necessary to electroplate Gold onto bronze. And if it's only plating why was it a big enough deal to have mentioned in the Iliad after such a long exchange regarding these two Warriors.
As a brief aside, this mini story with an Iliad between two Warriors that have not been in pop culture to my knowledge, took up quite a bit as a Side Story. With a concluding with this remark regarding the gold breastplate somehow being more valuable.
@Xaris Xeros it's certainly important to keep in mind that The Iliad is a cultural memory. Where in the authors that put it to paper where hundreds of years removed from the event. Which we ourselves did not know it was a real event until the 1850s with the work of Heinrich schliemann. It's certainly a curious statement that boggles the mind.
As a curious parallel in Exodus there is a claim that the Priestly breastplate is constructed mostly of gold. Of course this may also be a cultural memory as the oldest version of the Hebrew scriptures is around the time of Roman occupation over a thousand of years removed from the events. To keep that in perspective the time that the Iliad was committed to paper was a shorter space of time from the story of Moses to the writing of the Torah that we know today.
Shure it would be interesting. Just send him 20 kgs of gold and we´ll all see.
"This is as traditional as it gets"
I didn't know blacksmiths back then were using bluetooth headphones, history is fascinating
How thick is the brass? (Milimeters)
This blacksmith has a channel called Thak Ironworks
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Why so short and cut?
I thought traditional greek hoplite armour was made of linnen called linothorax and not this cuirass.
Linothorax was adopted later because it was cheaper to produce and lighter to wear. Things change as technologies evolve.
It was made of leather not linen, and the metal cuirass was for richer hoplites
yes it is, if it's thick
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omg...show it finished..!
Isn't bronze much less workable than brass though? Hence always cast?
Bronze is not always cast. Regardless of the reasons.
In my limited experience sheets aren't that hard to work with and you can always anneal it, just heat it to red and quench, yes, unlike steel it will anneal that way.
Bronze and Brass in antiquity are a complex subject, by the way, the alloys weren't always the same, you find copper alloyed with zinc, arsenic, tin and lead in different proportions in all sorts of applications.
How effective is vs arrows and weapons?
This type of brass cuirass iseffectice against cutting, mediumly effective against thrust (a horsedriven thrust could shatter it) but not at all effective against blunt weapons such as maces. But no one used blunt weapons in archaic era. Or very rarely.
@@szattila0609 the colour is more like bronze that brass because brass is pale and with a gold like colour but if is brass in that case yes is not hard enough to resist damage from any weapon, well actually thrust damage is more dangerous than cutting damage vs a breast plate but anyway the brass is not intended for that, greeks use bronze and not brass
He literally says in the first 2 seconds it is Brass... 🤦🏻♂️
these werent clay molded the way many statues were cast molded?
I reckon you're right. Why go through all that effort when you can cast it in high detail and hammer harden it and have it as thick as you please instead of that thin sheet that anything would pierce. Even a sharpened wooden stick would go through that.
@@dr.lexwinter8604 Keep reckoning. How many pounds do you want your armour to weigh? This breast plate alone weighs 15 lbs.
IT'S THAK!
Jfk 6 months pay , in a time you lacked basic banking
I am not good at catching English by ear.
How much does it weigh?
You can have something modelled after your own body, thanks to modern tech, though.
No shout out to the original created I see
HOPLITE not HOPLAYT!
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This is as historical as lord of the rings. Stop pushing a myth.
Its called a muscle cuirass and plenty of hoplites wore them
You have to be trolling...you do realize we have countless surviving examples, right?