Stuff I DON'T Take Backpacking
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Bruh you’re recommending that people to buy a $73 straw through your sponsored/affiliate link instead of a $17 water bladder. What a joke 😂. Lost all credibility and respect right there.
These aren't recommendations he is making for beginner campers or even recommendation to any campers. These are personal choices he has made and decided to share with his channel.
If you watch his recommendation videos he includes several options at several price points.
@MyLifeOutdoors - thank you for sharing!
This link right there is the real reason this guy made the video, the other "tips" are just fluff to mask the fact that this is an ad.
This guy isnt a camper, he's a seller in a camping outfit.
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$73 is a bit steep for a tube attachment.
Nice to have a lot of expensive tents. That’s probably one reason they don’t wear out from repeat use. I only have one and want to protect mine as much as possible
Well said.
Exactly. That’s why I’ve packed a hammock for 40 years
😂 canvas 😂 I have a surplus Vietnam era tent I use it all year round it came with the stove too but don’t use it because it’s heavier then a bag of rocks I use a folding tent stove that fits with the tent
‘I have a lot of expensive tents and I don’t use footprints’ how many of those have you paid for ?? This advise could cause damage to someone’s tent that might not have the means for repair.
duct tape is good too
I get it that you don't use footprints because it saves on weight and space. However, don't you think all your expensive tents also have less holes in them is because you have lots of tents? If you use more than one tent, you're systematically going to wear each one less. I'm not saying that footprints are a necessary item to bring, but it is a fact that it provides more protection and helps with water resistance. Footprints can be worth it when you don't have the budget to buy all those expensive tents you own and want to make the one you buy last the longest.
Just wanted to add that I do agree that a footprint isn't a necessary item to bring. Tents are already made to last, even the expensive ones. I just didn't think that the argument you used was realistic when looking at the majority of the outdoor community.
*also sorry for the mistakes in my first comment 😅
@@TheDemolitionStudiowho are you talking to tho
He's talking to the video creator
My tent came with a fitted footprint to also attach to the tent poles. It wouldnt make sense for me to not bring it. I think it's a 40 dollar tarp but still cheaper than my 120 dollar tent.
I’m right there with you. I don’t have a footprint for the whole underside of the tent, only for the part most likely to get a lot of traffic (the part right by the entrance) and it’s Tyvek so it only weighs like 200 grams. Additionally, for times when you don’t expect bugs, you can set up a tent with just the fly and footprint to save a bit of weight.
The ground cloth is to reduce condensation in the tent. It’s why you put down a vapor barrier before pouring the slab for your house
I was so confused about this in the video! I’m happy I’m not the only one who thought condensation was the main reason.
I use a piece of Stego Wrap under my tent!
@randyandy4827 same. Mine was a tyvek sheet I bummed off a local home builder.
That’s interesting… I just switched to a single wall this year. I was disappointed with all the moisture especially when not under some trees. I never use a barrier. BUT, thinking now I’ll give it a try. Thanks.
And moisture protection between the slab and subflooring, but some subfloor systems have it designed in
As a novice experienced backpacker, Don’t listen to these people, take what you need for comfort, as it will make your trip better. If you’re in bear country, take the bear spray. How much items weigh don’t matter if you’re dead .
It matters if it’s so heavy you never leave your car..
@@coltiscoolify 🤣🤣🤣
@@coltiscoolifywhat the?? Get strong baby back
I mean yeah, no, just take what your experienced with really is what I think, if you know how to use shit that has MULTI use then you’d have a lesser load, higher knowledge to do more things
Pack weight matters after a certain point, but you're also not wrong. Someone with little experience really doesn't know what they're going to need and if they find themselves asking themselves "Do I need this?" the answer is "Yes, you need it, at least until you know that you don't." Comfort items are also more important for the novice because they're already going to be dealing with more stress and anxiety than their more experienced peers, so it's okay to bring something to increase the enjoyment they are getting, like a chair or a comfortable pillow.
I don't wear shoes when backpacking because a pound on the feet will weigh me down too much. Same goes for clothes. Not worth the weight.
😂
Sandals/barefoot hiking can be a lot of fun!
My wife is a surgeon.. I have her ampute my left arm at the shoulder before I go hiking.. She puts it in the deep freezer then she just thaws it out and reattaches it after I'm finished.. That lightens the load on my legs by like 15lbs and I can carry an extra two cases of brewskies without expending any additional energy..
Don’t wanna be over encumbered
@@MarkLadaHomie I’m sorry. I really thought it was pork shoulder, and brought it to the church Potluck
Bear spray works on more than just bears. It works on boorish humans as well.
I don't know if you've heard about it, but there's a better option.
@@---cr8nw now if they would only make one of those “better options” look like a walking stick so you could carry it incognito . . .
@@georgiabelle3717, they can't. It would violate federal law. And it would be incredibly dangerous to bend the barrel or plug it up with mud. Just carry in a holster.
@@---cr8nwIt's not always better.
@@percyfaith11a gun is infinitely better than bare mace
Because black bears can't kill you, it's a myth. All they do is sprinkle fairy dust and leave a dollar bill under your pillow.
Everything you have said is 100% TRUE!
Black bears are cute and cuddly and crave close human contact!!
Everyone who has moved here to Montana from California has been made aware of that Good News!!
I mean, I’ve come face to face with black bears multiple times. They just don’t WANT to kill you. They’re little babies 95 times out of 100. So bear spray is just unnecessary 🤷🏼
@@deezdezraAnd what state?
@@deezdezra Fun fact: The majority of human deaths from black bears were from being preyed upon. I don't carry it most of the time but if I were far into the Canadian backcountry where they aren't familiar with humans I would. I would also carry in places where they're TOO familiar with humans.
😂
One thing I never take backpacking is myself.
Well, that's one way to save on weight 😂
For the 6 oz my ground sheet weighs I still always take and use it
It can also work as an emergency shelter or rain cover for the tent for more ventilation.
Wow which one do you have it is so light
Gotta say, I got up yesterday morning in my tarp shelter and looked around in the dark with my headlamp. There was a mountain lion about 20 yards away staring at me, judging by the low position, wide set large orange reflecting eyes. I stood up and cranked up my headlamp to scare it off, but I was pretty happy to have my bear spray!
I use a footprint to help keep water that will run under my tent from soaking through that thin tent flooring. I've never heard of it being there to prevent holes
Its main purpose which you will find explained on any packaging is to reduce abrasion and prevent condensation or water flow from soaking your tent floor.
You don’t have to get a hole poked through (happens commonly) for abrasion to thin the floor, all you have to do is move around in the tent and rub it into the ground with your feet and knees. They don’t last forever unless you rarely use them.
Forget the tent! Always bring a pop up steel cage.
Best comment
My daughter and her friend slept in a Kelty two-person tent in Norway and I slept directly beside them in the exact same tent. I bought the footprint for my tent, but my daughter did not get one for hers, thinking that it wasn't really necessary.
They were damp and cold and miserable. I had a great nights sleep.
I wouldn't dream of laying a tent without some sort of moisture barrier under it.
P.S. This was in July and temps were probably mi-50s at night. We all had good sleeping bags.
How is this an argument? The ground cloth is the same material as the floor of your tent?
I use a ground sheet to protect from rocks but I don’t think the ground cloth helps with condensation. It sounds your daughter’s tent had double the water vapor (aka humans) as yours, I suspect that’s the culprit.
Humans emit a significant amount of water as we breathe. When done all night long in a small, enclosed, poorly ventilated space… that is where a lot of the condensation comes from.
Another major source (in cold weather) is the colder exterior temperatures causing the wall of a single wall tent to be colder than the inside air. Just like the condensation on the outside of a cold beverage that’s been outside the fridge for a bit.
They were wet because there were two of them in their tent producing double the condensation.
It depends on what ground you are camping on. I take the footprint on every trip. If you are camping on clean campsites or clean ground in general, not using footprint is fine. On many occasions, when camping in Scotland, the footprint was completely wet and dirty. The tent floor was clean and much dryer at the same time.
Also, the footprint has some holes in it, from small stones and vegetation. The tent floor does not have them
Bear spray also works on mountain lions so I'll be keeping it
Isn't it illegal to use bear spray on mountain lions?🤔
@@stepanbandera5206I’d rather not be dead
@@brianwatts5951 😂👍
@@stepanbandera5206who is telling? The mountain lion?
@@IscariottActual 🤷
I no longer carry a cooler filled with beer. I still strap a cooler to my backpack, I just don't fill it with beer. I like having plenty of ice!
You can distinguish black bear country from Grizzly country by the droppings.
Grizzly Bear droppings are riddled with boot strings and smell like pepper spray.
I have 2 tents. Not "lots of tents" hence, protective ground tarp. I have had tents wear on the bottom until no longer water resistant.
I'm a casual backpacker and gotta say yes bladders suck to clean and fill but man I love the amount of water I get with em.
Try getting a slurpy and a moon pie . Bladder head . . Hahaha 😂😂😂
I am a big fan. I have water bladders for my motorcycle tank bag and my hiking and mountain biking backpack it is just nice to carry something that doesn't require a specific shape, and it carries more water.
Groundsheet-tyvek- keeps bottom of dcf tent clean when packing it up-which helps with abrasions also, gives a bit more air pad puncture resistance and can keep you cleaner while napping or taking a break.
Great idea bro
And the tyvek has so many more uses than just a ground sheet.
Thats funny cause i bought a $700 tent and the floor of the tent had holes after 2 days. Thanks for the advice.
Oh shit bro 💀
Cause and because are different words with different meanings.
Tell that to a black person and wait for the answer.
Racists should feel ashamed
No protection in the woods is foolish. I'll leave it there.
Or diverse neighborhoods after dark.
You know, you could take all of those items with you if you shaved off that beard. That baby gotta weigh 3 to 4 pounds.
7g max
Yeah but then you don't look like grizzly Adams lol
That soup strainer he's wearing can really stink up the forest.
@@stepanbandera5206 can you grow a soup strainer? : )
@@bcamping1 yeah, between my legs.
😂 water doesn’t get less bulky and lighter just because you put it in a water bottle with a straw in it!
It's less bulky insofar as it's not taking up space inside your pack.
@@Im_With_Stupid you people have a lame excuse for everything! All you did was move it to the outside, the weight does not change. Most of you are to scared to de an individual and run what works best for you, you have to do what everyone else does! Lemmings
@Im_With_Stupid dude the bladder holding the same amount as a full bottle would take up the same amount of space. Now it's a different story if you drink the bottle and the bladder... the bottle is still in bottle shape and taking up a bottle of space
@@worlore1651 The bottle doesn't go inside your pack like a bladder does, so it doesn't take up space inside your pack.
@@Im_With_Stupid in the video, he said "heavy", the water still weights the same in the bottle.
going to assume he misspoke in that instance.
On certain tents (Big Agnes copper spur for example) using a footprint allows you to pitch the outer before the inner which is very useful in the rain.
Exactly. Same with my MSR tent. I mostly camp/Backpack in the Rockies so rain often isn't an issue much of the year but it's saved me a couple times in the past.
Black bears are statistically more likely to do predatory attacks on humans than grizzly bears. Which means you could do everything right and still get attacked. With grizzlies you have to have already fucked up in some way so just dont tuck up. Also the readon your tents haven't worn out yet is because you have a bunch of them. That changes when you only have 1 tent you take everywhere. I'm taking a ground sheet. As well as a firearm because bear spray sometimes causes attacks instead of deterring them.
JohnNivek, thank you for pointing out that black bears are much more inclined towards human predation and that tendency has become more pronounced in the last 20 years, according to Stephen Herrero. The nature of grizzly attacks has not changed in that time.
@@henryrodgers1752 it's just something I have to be more worried about because I live in black bear country. There are a few cases of reported grizzlies but officially they aren't considered to be in my state. If you go camping where I do you're actually very likely to see a black bear. Due in part to the fact that there's a lot of farmland and popular hiking trails where I live so they aren't as skittish around humans which can get dangerous. The rule of thumb in my community is don't go into the woods without a firearm. My sister was followed back to camp by a black bear the last time we went camping together. The deterrent shots for only seemed to scare it off for a while because it kept coming back. If I was out solo and that bear was around there's a good possibility that it would've just attacked.
I don't know about this. I'm gonna have to research. It sounds kind of wild. I live in black bear area and blackbear's always run for me my whole life. I literally legit called them to me at this point I have videos of it and they run. Not saying you're inaccurate just something I never knew to be true
This is not true, brown bears attack "unprovoked" if you go too close to their cubs for example. This can happen without you even seeing the cubs.
@@maxuli21 then it wasn't "unprovoked" because that's yet another case of someone fucking up, by not paying attention. Even if you don't see them, bear cubs make a lot of noise especially when separated from their mother. Noises that are super easy to identify as bear cubs. At no point should you ever let your guard down like that in the woods.
I dont bring any concealed weapons for protection in national parks because the rules will protect me 🙄
I was taught in the scouts to use a tarp footprint to protect from rain. Ive been out of the scouts for 5 years and have used my tent fairly frequently for just under a decade. The one time I didnt use a tarp I had a puddle of water at the base of my feet.
All done with the molesting?
As someone who hikes, works and camps in B.C. wilderness areas I couldn't disagree more about the black bear comment. The only time I've used bear spray was on a black bear. Don't listen to this know it all fool.
I'm new t hiking Nd camping any recommendation on a gear list
I mean I knew he was full of it when I saw him replace a water bladder with.... a water bladder with extra steps...
@@jcdenton6074 are little bags like that worth using ? Or just bringing a heavy duty clothes bag
@@codyfournellcsrf5164Anything someone is trying to sell you in a youtube short won't be worth it. Influencers like him are paid to sell items. In this short, he's selling that water bottle thing.
tbf historically he’s correct. black bear predation on humans has increased in recent times, likely due to higher exposure to humans making them less skittish around them. Out where I live they’re still pretty scared of people, have had to spook a few away before, they largely are just curious not aggressive where i’m at. Don’t think a Grizzly would’ve been spookable in those scenarios due to size. Obviously though a wild animal is a wild animal, they’re never really predictable and anything that big is always potentially dangerous.
As an alternative to bear spray, you could try a .357 Magnum revolver, or a .40 S&W pistol.
45 super is pretty decent aswell
we call it Second Amendment Bear Spray
I don’t take my bear spray cause I take a 10mm sprayer instead 😂
Firearms have been shown to be less effective in a bear attack than bear spray because most are are not calm or capable enough to accurately shoot at a charging bear.
seen seasoned hunters freeze at a charging Kodiak, always have a backup unless you want to be dinner
@@oldankh yes but bear spray can only be used up to 10-20 ft out. 10mm can go a lot further a lot faster, and the noise of a gunshot is often enough to scare most bears.
@@austink4712 No offense Austin but you don't understand bear behavior, warning shots very seldom do anything to scare off a bear especially a brown in August/September or a Kodiak. It'll do nothing more than piss it off and increase its aggression. Let alone placing accurate shots at a charging bear is insanely difficult and rare, the best hunters around have frozen or had a firearm jam.
There is a reason when we go hunting we have bear spray too, on top of having a long gun and a handgun. But you bet your ass we are reaching for that spray first, it IS more effective than a firearm in a short distance.
Please do research and ask local rangers before you go into Bear country
@oldankh these guys are always the same they think they are big and bad for carrying a pistol thinking they can dome a charging grizzly from 60 yards out with a 10mm
@@tylerprice6063 Definitely overconfident, I always wonder if the people who comment things like that have ever actually been around a bear or ever been in bear country. I'm from Montana so this information was taught in public school, as early as 1st grade.
And when their negligence leads to a bear attack or death, the bear is located and put down. It's not fair for anyone involved, that's why I'm so passionate about bear safety and education.
Yeah, like some people say the footprint depends on where you’re camping. But also, it does help keep the bottom of the tent clean, which I like. Especially if it’s raining and the ground is muddy. And bear spray can be used on more than just bears.
The drink tube adapter is a fantastic idea to implement on hikes, but I’m definitely a fan of using a ground cover, not much weight or space, I feel it helps preserve but who knows, could be a “to each their own” type of situation. Great tips to consider, thank you.
I’ve yet to have a water bladder not leak on me, I like them but can’t bring myself to pay the money for a really nice one knowing it’ll probably fail
YOU might not take bear spray when you hike in black bear country because of your Yoesemite limits on it but for 99% of us it's MUCH wiser to take bear spray than go completely unarmed. You can deter most black bear attacks with bear spray. This short seems like it will mislead many to make the erroneous decision and leave it at home.
Ground tarp also keeps bottom of tent clean from dirt and mud, and if larger than tent is a nice area to set shoes and other stuff you might not want to bring inside
Your footprint should be slightly smaller than the tent floor. This is to prevent water from flowing in between your tent floor and the footprint. If the footprint is under the tent it can’t gather water to flow under your tent. Vestibules serve as better places to store gear outside the tent.
I never carried a footprint either until I woke up to my beloved polerstuff tent filled with fire ants… they had chewed through the bottom of my tent. I will never not carry a footprint now.
I luckily decided to sleep in my hammock instead of the tent that night. 🙌🏼
For bear spray, I like to carry the 10mm kind, it works on pretty much any creature you may have a bad run in with.
Please don't poach ❤
@@PredictableEnigmaToo late 😊
@@PredictableEnigma its not poaching if you get charged out of nowhere
they have no more right than we do to be in the woods
Hear me out, a 10mm or a bush rifle with bear spray attachment 😂
@@Jay_Mac1775 Give this man an award
No bear deterrent is 100% effective. Thats why you should always carry a gun and spray. Give em a one two combo if the spray don’t work.
by the time your spray doesn't work I doubt you'll finish it with a gun in time unless you got dead eye
@@drucastellon4904 Thats why you have the spray in your offhand and gun in the other.
@@ColorblindBullpup Ahh yes. The do everything, but none of it well method.
yeah I'll be damned if I let some morons rules keep me without bear spray or a gun. sorry rather be fined than mauled
Why not a third option . . Tickle the bears b-lls and give him a happy ending and he'll leave you alone . . Hahaha 😂😂😂
My footprint is just a peice of tyvek. Its dual purpose for under the tent or cowboy camping or throwing down on the shelter to keep rough wood, nails etc from putting holes in my pad.
Footprint all the way...but to each their own. You can have the footprint and add the rain fly to make a summery kind of shelter. Also footprints are thicker than the bathtub ...you add 400 to 500 grams to your pack weight however.
Black bears are more of a threat than grizzlies.
A ground sheet provides an apron to crawl onto for tents with a small entrance compartment. Weight is negligible.
Ground cloth + tarp instead of a tent is the way for me. Particularly since my ground cloth doubles as a poncho. Multipurpose items rock!
I use the footprint to help keep the tent floor clean.
Mountain lions and some humans scare me a lot more than most black bears so I bring bear spray with me whenever I hike. Also what if you surprise a black bear with cubs?
That video of that guy being followed and threatened by a mountain lion was horrifying, I'd totally have it on hand if I was in their habitat
Good thinking. Some hunters concern me as well.
good luck spraying them with bear spray from 50 yds when they have a rifle@@scojo6377
If you surprise a mama bear, you’re probably getting chewed on until she decides you aren’t an issue anymore.
That is a common misconception about black bears. Mother black bears with cubs are highly unlikely to attack. It is much more true with mother grizzlys than black bears, with 70% of people killed by grizzlies being in defense of its cubs. There has never been a recorded death from a black bear defending her cubs. In the case of a confrontation, the mother black bear will have her cubs retreat and will show harmless bluster out of anxiety, which makes them appear ferocious. They will make motions or vocal warnings at most.
You don't take footprint anymore because you never used to take it. Solid logic right there
Hydration pouches are awesome. The new ones are so light and have a zipper to clean it. Also you can pull off the mouthpiece and attach directly to a filter
That seems pretty handy!
This def depends on the type of places you’re hiking /camping, for example I’m out in west Texas where everything has thorns so if you aren’t bringing some tarps for under your tent you better bring a broom to sweep the area before pitching it lol
1. You're rich
2. You're wasteful
3. You're careless
This is bad advice dude.
number two is just a container shape choice. not sure how cylindrical things are more wasteful than flat things. especially if you're just getting water from the same sink to fill both. good bottles can be reused plenty. something that's difficult to clean may cause it to need replacement, causing more waste.
For fucking real.
I don't know if I'd hike in an bear country without something that could kill a bear.
Eh, it's not that bad. I'm Canadian and nearly everyone hikes and camps without protection.
@@MacLeodddd I'm sure it's fine 99.9 percent of the time, but I'm not keen on being that .1%
@@Cueil I don't think you understand how hard it even is to kill a bear. A gun or knife won't always do it anyway.
@@MacLeoddddpeople that think they’ll even be able to shoot anything less than a six foot group under the pressure and shock of being charged by a bear is staggering. As if anything less than a 12 gauge slug would do more than give a bear a headache even if your aim was perfect.
The groundsheet comes in very handy when it's rainy and theres less than ideal ground. You won't have to put your stuff onto the mud, dripping wet high grass or coat it with pine needles or wet sand.
When you're two people and a doggy in a tent and have no space inside your tent for all the gear you really do appreciate the extra clean space in the vestibule.
And our (not expensive) tent got a hole from a little sharp twig the very first time we used it without a ground sheet.
Man, wish i had access to so many expensive tents right at my disposal!
If you keep your drink bladder in the freezer you will never have to spend much time cleaning it. Use it, rinse it out when you get home, and then put it in the freezer until you next need it.
I have no idea how people have so much problems with their hydration bladders. I have 3 of them in 3 different bags, all of them are the Osprey type with the ziplock style closure. I never put anything in them except water, and I've never had to clean a single one. I just drain them when I'm done. Eight years later, the first one I got still has never had a mold issue. Why do people have so much issue? Did they put Gatorade in them or something?
@@timlong1462 intermittent use is the biggest issue. If you don't use it for extended periods and it's damp or wet it will get nasty when left stored like that.
Fun fact: The majority of human deaths from black bears were from being preyed upon.
This, black bears can be nasty fuckers
Yeah the whole black bear won’t attack is pretty off the mark
This is absolutely insane 😳 your patience level is unheard of. I know this is over a year old now, but freaking bravo dude 🙌🏼
I took my tent on a trip near Lake Michigan. The beach grass in our campsite was poking through the bottom of our tent because we didn’t use a footprint. It could’ve punctured our pad.
Now my wife always makes me bring one
Bear spray is the minimum for defense in the woods, 9/10 you should carry a firearm
I always carry in the backcountry, and pretty much everywhere else. But I did read an article years ago that said bear spray is better at deterring an attack than a gun. Supposedly, a gunshot wound might not be immediately noticed by a charged-up bear, but the pain of pepper spray is instant and impossible to dismiss.
@@TDC7594also because you can’t really miss a can of bear spray.
@@TDC7594yeah the power is spray is so fascinating to me when I see examples of it on humans and animals. There’s so many instances of like people getting in fights with police and being shot many times but still up and fighting but seeing big ass pp or people high as snoop get dropped by OC. It’s so odd how animals can ignore certain things but others will just stop us in our tracks
@@TDC7594idk from personal experience I fell wayyyy more comfortable having my 10mm on my hip than having bear spray, but I do get the instant stopping power when all the bears senses are fucked up
It probably makes me a bit of a clean freak, but the only reason I carry a footprint is because the tent goes IN the bag, and I keep the dirty footprint OUT of the bag.
Started carrying a groundsheet when I started the PCT instead of the AT. Will carry a groundsheet on the CDT.
I’ve worn them out and also use them when I take a siesta.
I've use my ground sheet on wet days for a dry place to eat lunch, it can also be used as a makeshift tarp to eat under in a down poor
As a woman alone, I carry bear spray no matter what. Haven't had too many scary moments but I've had a few. This is an EDC for me
Bear spray often doesnt work on bears, especially determined bears.
If youre hiking in bear country, always have a .41, 44mag, or 10mm strapped to your hip with some good hardcast lead loaded up. The extra weight sucks but its better to be prepared than dead. You're shooting to hit as many vitals as possible in as short a time as possible, make the first hit count! Stay safe
You shouldn't be getting close enough to bears to be smelling their armpits anyways.
@@HepCatJack 100% agree, but sometimes they sneak up and want to force you to smell their armpits
This is objectively an incorrect statement. Bear spray will always be a better option unless you’re a professional and are carrying a rifle. Spray > 7 rounds from a .44
@@skreelthebarbarian😂😂 these comments got me 💀
I remember I did a NOLS wilderness school and we didn’t have a footprint under the tent. It started to rain really hard and the bottom of tent was soaked and ended up soaking my sleeping bag. I was sleeping in a literal puddle. This was in the fall so I was freezing and it was the worst night of sleep I ever had, if you can even call it sleep. Bring whatever makes you feel comfortable. Also if you don’t bring bear spray or a gun into the deep woods then you’re either careless or dumb.
Couldn't agree more I've never used a footprint either and only use a bladder when I need extra water with very limited fresh water near the coast but don't have the issue of bears
I also don't carry bear spray. I find my .44 magnum is much more environmentally friendly! Don't worry I also reduce my carbon footprint by carrying a 10mm! I'm such a great granola eater!
gun > bear spray
Real
I’ve done tons of backpacking/camping with the Boy Scouts I’ve been to Philmont, that water canoe one in Michigan, and have done multiple weekend backpacking trips and I 100% agree about the foot print tarp for tents. It was a waste of weight, added time and was an unneeded complication to setting up my tent.
That smart water bottle drink tube adapter looks great!
With you on water bladders. Way too much paraphernalia for the ease of not having to stop, but then that's one problem with them in itself - people will keep going and not rest enough. An entire product industry arose to deal with the various problems that come with them. Ground sheets though, I think can be good as multiple uses, such as a clean place to lay out equipment when you're packing up, or as a basic tarp to erect (terrain depending) in inclement weather while you break down and pack up. On its own as single use, yes. As a multi use item, often handy to bring along.
I’ve never had a problem with bladders. I still use a bladder my dad bought when he would go backpacking as a young man. They are more versatile and environmentally friendly than plastic, and your water doesn’t have microplastics in it
you should always carry a weapon. gotta worry about people just as much as any other predator. advise to the contrary could get someone killed.
Smart water bottles are the best for backpacking, slim and fit perfectly onto Sawyer water filters
Having a footprint with me on one backpacking trip saved me from have a miserable night when the tent started leaking. Took the footprint from underneath the tent, laid it over the tent and cinched it down and slept dry all night.
Ive seen alot of videos of bear spray not working... Ill keep by big iron on my side and keep the bear spray to be used on road ragers jk.
Seems like I would rather have BS and not need it than to need it and NOT have it. Pepper spray saved me recently from an unleashed pit bull in full on attack mode. I had to deploy it twice before the mongrel would retreat but so glad I had it and was able to defend myself.
Care to list all those videos of bear spray not working?
you know not everything is on video but a lot of people who used bear spray were still attacked by a bear. its not full proof.@@percyfaith11
Really? Care to show me a video of bear spray not working? I know you want a reason to carry a gun, you don’t need to make stuff up for it though
nobody is making anything up. bear spray doesn't always work and that's just a fact. its best to have both for the times it doesn't. @@es0x
Bring bear spray at all times, don’t be stupid. If you’re not carrying a piece, bring bear spray.
Some people insist on being stupid but to each, their own. He can go undefended in black bear country. You and I know better.
A footprint isnt only for protection of the floor its also for condensation problems and can help greatly with that especially in nordic countrys the temperature can go from literally crazy warm summer at day to freezing next day or at night.
I love my hydration bladder and don't really find it hard to fill, even when on the trail. Water is heavy in any container. A 32oz bottle is going to be lighter when full that a 40 or 48oz bladder. But that hydration converter is pretty cool
Eh the bladder is just too good for easy hydration. I understand why some don’t like them though, I’m just a person that drinks a lot of water. My water pump filtration system works really well for my bladder, makes the fill up process easy
Its just as easy to have a water bottle. Takes maybe a second to grab it if your shoulders are flexible enough
@@EthanDurant for me the problem is quantity. And for me I’m more inclined to drink when I feel thirst if the water is effortless to access
@@calebfeliciano2099so you can bring an extra bottle to hold more water, still weigh less than the bladder and use the quick attach to make those bottles “bladders” but whatever works for you is the best way man keep going outside
@@mattpassos5689bro wdym, 1L of water bottle weigh the same of 1L of water inside the bladder.
What changes is the bladder has more capacity
Much easier to fill a water bottle. The bladder was the first thing I ditched, mostly because it broke.
I agree about the bear spray. But I replaced it with a gun lol.
I always carry and use a footprint - self made from Tyvek. It also keeps my tent clean.
Don’t forget your wizard staff!😂
Steven I love your vids and u have great suggestions too, I got the NEMO fillow and it is awesome
Glad I was able to help
BS on the bear spray -I don’t care what Yosemite says (you all seen what Yosemite looks like lately) Carry the spray
I 100% agree. I have removed all those things from my kit.
While I didn't used to carry bear spray growing up in Central Alberta, I would if I went back. Even if I never use it while I'm there, it only has to happen once.
Luck runs out . . Sooner or later . . Especially when it comes to wild animals . They're called wild animals for a reason .
Glock 20 is mandatory. Any bear is still a bear!
Damn I wish I could afford one. 9 mm is better than a stick I guess
@@paulriccio5333dude theres plenty of affordable 10mm handguns out there doesnt have to be glock 45 +p works too
I slept in a tent for five years, four months per year, while working as a tree planter in Canada. I never used a groundsheet, and I never encountered any problems. From my experience, having observed numerous fellow coworkers camping, tents tend to break for the following reasons:
- Zipper malfunctions
- Sun exposure damage
- Damage caused by being drunk and stupid
- Damage from heavy winds when the tent isn't properly set up.
I dont take bear spray either, as I live in the UK, where you will only find bears in the zoo and on Grindr :)
I feel the second. I take a filter straw and a soft water bottle. It fits in my jacket and stays put when I have the waist strap clipped. It stays flush against my body and helps a lot to prevent over heating!
Black bears are less likely to attack humans, but it does happen. Always carry bear spray if there are bears in the area. A surprise encounter where the animal is startled or feels cornered could end very badly for you otherwise.
Its always gd to bring that extra tarp for your tent or not. It can come in handy for so many things. If you come across an injured person can be used as a stretcher., amongst so many other things.
1L smartwater bottle isnt always feasible if you are going long distances between water sources, otherwise it's a great option
I usually have at least a .44 in grizzly country. Bear spray works pretty good on a person, but Id rather be able to punch through that skull if my life depends on it.
I love how into this shit you guys go. I’m 6’1 230lbs and I don’t really give a hoot about how much weight I carry. I’m sure I’ve gone over 60lbs in my ruck from Boulder ridge to Timothy lake mt hood I’ve had no problems. Grow some muscles. Seriously, y’all act like it will kill you if you do 😂
100% agree. If sherpas can carry 100+ lbs up Everest, I can carry a decently sized pack for my weekend trip.
Plus, what good is backpacking w/o ~5lbs+ of beer and whiskey? Gotta embrace our inner 1800s mountain man.
I've ditched the same 3 things! Man, now I feel like a pro
I hike often in a nature reserve with a lot of black bears. I’ve never encountered an issue, so long as I keep my food out of their reach. In my experience, they’re fairly skiddish.
Dude looks like my 10th grade English teacher during high school. Legend! We love you Mr. P!
Just as a heads up you can fill a water bladder back through the hose with the sawyer adapter... from pictured water from home or from my sawyer filter i never remove my bladder until its time to clean it. Alao super cheap too and no more bulky bottles, just a few playltypus bags that weight less and pack down better and since they are forever reusable are better on the environment than smart water bottles.
Also the tarp is to help with rain and water and to insulate or act as a extra awning over the door in rain
Use a footprint if you only have one tent like most people. It also makes a great emergency shelter/rain skirt. I use mine if it starts to pour.