How Many Ball Lightnings Does it Take to Win in Modern?

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  • čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
  • Here's a new Modern Horizons 3 combo that will let you play all the Ball Lightnings (and Lightning Skelementals) in your deck in a single turn!
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Komentáře • 259

  • @Bloodmuffin6
    @Bloodmuffin6 Před 3 měsíci +590

    Don't forget Groundbreaker!

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  Před 3 měsíci +280

      12 Ball Lightnings!

    • @simic0racle157
      @simic0racle157 Před 3 měsíci +32

      @@MTGGoldfish Arc Runner?

    • @winssports4830
      @winssports4830 Před 3 měsíci +18

      ​@simic0racle157 doesn't have trample but not sure it'd matter either lol. You'd have to have some level of removal stuff like cascade does though.

    • @hawktitan7896
      @hawktitan7896 Před 3 měsíci +5

      @@MTGGoldfish Skizzik !

    • @WH4T3V3R.W
      @WH4T3V3R.W Před 3 měsíci +4

      ​@@hawktitan7896 unfortunately 4 mana

  • @briankenney9528
    @briankenney9528 Před 3 měsíci +404

    I really like the mechanics of ball lightning. Its basically a burn spell but your opponent can try to block the spell with creatures

    • @DiscardatRandom
      @DiscardatRandom Před 3 měsíci +19

      Great design imo also really fun with unearth effects

    • @drlegal3143
      @drlegal3143 Před 3 měsíci +16

      if you played hearthstone it reminds alot of leeroy jenkins which is pretty much a burn spell printed on a haste creature

    • @fusronah2789
      @fusronah2789 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Don't forget lightning skelementals!

    • @fuzzyhair321
      @fuzzyhair321 Před 3 měsíci

      Yeah game back then was a different beast. So much fun

  • @ferdithetank7535
    @ferdithetank7535 Před 3 měsíci +144

    Defeating an opponent with the power of balls has never been so efficient since the introduction of Unearth to Modern.

    • @chasm9557
      @chasm9557 Před 3 měsíci +21

      I think the deck needs to be named Balls to the Face in honor of Ball Lightning.

    • @WoodWisp
      @WoodWisp Před 3 měsíci +10

      ​@@chasm9557"Oops, Ball Lightning" is so much better

    • @sebastianhutterer1722
      @sebastianhutterer1722 Před 3 měsíci +5

      nah it‘s Monstrous Vortex plus Ball Lightning why not „Monstrous Balls“

    • @Colton-wz5sh
      @Colton-wz5sh Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@sebastianhutterer1722monstrous vortex isnt even needed

    • @emilydegroot6436
      @emilydegroot6436 Před 6 dny

      ​@@Colton-wz5shhuh? Vortex is literally the only reason this deck works

  • @josephrobie3814
    @josephrobie3814 Před 3 měsíci +35

    Lightning Crashes in the background is on point.

    • @NinjaFresh
      @NinjaFresh Před 3 měsíci +4

      Bro I thought I was going crazy for a second.

    • @jude7620
      @jude7620 Před 3 měsíci +4

      I was just thinking "Did my dad just walk in the room or what?"

  • @L8RSTORM
    @L8RSTORM Před 3 měsíci +100

    I hope we get a Against the odds deck tech video

  • @TyFree1993
    @TyFree1993 Před 3 měsíci +132

    Against the Odds?

  • @ArtemisMoon90
    @ArtemisMoon90 Před 3 měsíci +88

    Groundbreaker from Planar Chaos is just green ball lightning

  • @jude7620
    @jude7620 Před 3 měsíci +20

    "Ball Lightning Crashes". Get on it, Remy

  • @maxbrown4261
    @maxbrown4261 Před 3 měsíci +12

    Never thpught id hear Lightning Crashes to background an MTG card combo, i applaud you

  • @vulcanh254
    @vulcanh254 Před 3 měsíci +16

    MH4 will have the first 6/2 Ball Lightning to get around Bowmasters. 😂

  • @ChrisMusson-kv8ph
    @ChrisMusson-kv8ph Před 3 měsíci +3

    Love the Lighting Crashes by Live playing in the background.

  • @MTGGoldfish
    @MTGGoldfish  Před 3 měsíci +16

    Seems worth it.

    • @fasdaVT
      @fasdaVT Před 3 měsíci +1

      no ramp means it won't happen till turn 5 which seems slow and there is that artifact that counters spells that don't use mana, and with relying on 1 card for the cascade means if its in your opening hand you will be thoughtsiezed.

    • @AncientHydraGaming
      @AncientHydraGaming Před 3 měsíci

      @@fasdaVT Several cards above 4 mana value ramp without needing to pay that cost.

    • @glubgawd7393
      @glubgawd7393 Před 3 měsíci

      @@fasdaVT beanstalk wurm for ramp, and you could run the land cycling creatures from LotR for aggressive mulligans looking for vortex in opening hand

    • @ReyaadawnMTG
      @ReyaadawnMTG Před 3 měsíci

      @@fasdaVT Grabby Giant and Beanstalk Wurm get you ramp. Force of Vigor in the SB deals with that artifact.

    • @madgenius9720
      @madgenius9720 Před 3 měsíci

      And Magma Opus-likes can both be a ramp and fodder for Force of negation

  • @JackSears95
    @JackSears95 Před 3 měsíci +6

    Kid named Night of Soul’s Betrayal:

  • @glubgawd7393
    @glubgawd7393 Před 3 měsíci +40

    4 lightning skelemental
    4 ball lightning
    4 groundbreaker
    4 beanstalk wurm
    4 oliphaunt
    4 generous ent
    4 troll of khazad-dum
    4 stomping ground
    4 blood crypt
    4 overgrown tomb
    4 wooded foothills
    4 bloodstained mire
    4 verdant catacombs
    1 mountain
    1 forest
    1 swamp
    55 cards, let’s brew it, that’s the fastest way I can figure to get mana fixing for the vortex and then whichever ball lightning, anyone have a way to get the vortex?

    • @georgetimlin7863
      @georgetimlin7863 Před 3 měsíci +5

      Honestly so invested in this now, unfortunately my best guess is probably just gonna have to be aggressive mulliganing maybe down to 5 or even 4 in a worst case scenario? I've been looking into stuff with transmute as in a pinch, if you're able to survive one turn and have enough mana to play vortex then a creature to combo off, it could be useful, but really not finding anything relevant. Also struggling to find any dedicated tutors etc. I don't really play modern much but this is fun to brainstorm!

    • @simic0racle157
      @simic0racle157 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Arc Runner?

    • @maxbrown4261
      @maxbrown4261 Před 3 měsíci +2

      There's that G drop in standard rn that reveals like 4 off the top and puts a land or enchantment into hand

    • @glubgawd7393
      @glubgawd7393 Před 3 měsíci

      @@maxbrown4261 if assemble the team was a real paper card, ugh, print it wizards!

    • @glubgawd7393
      @glubgawd7393 Před 3 měsíci

      @@georgetimlin7863 yea, mulliganing hard might be the answer, the 12 land cycling creatures let you possibly keep some 1 land hands if you have the enchantment and a “ball lightning”

  • @codyjarvis4557
    @codyjarvis4557 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Green Ball Lightning too. 😂 It would be hilarious to see a Ball Lightning deck top 8. Rise of the Junk Rares.

  • @blueredlover1060
    @blueredlover1060 Před 3 měsíci +3

    This feels like an Against the Odds episode in the future.

  • @Shortfilmss
    @Shortfilmss Před 2 měsíci +1

    Wubby’s deck octo-sleeved, meanwhile Charlie eats Dave’s hot chicken on his raw dogged full foil masterpiece deck

  • @stevecooper6578
    @stevecooper6578 Před 3 měsíci +4

    It takes some balls to pilot the deck

  • @ReyaadawnMTG
    @ReyaadawnMTG Před 3 měsíci +7

    Split cards like Dead/Gone are the key to this deck working. I brewed it (with a sideboard) and a Keruga companion. The video is on my channel.

  • @fuma9532
    @fuma9532 Před 3 měsíci +7

    Yees, great to see some Skelemental love!

  • @kfry4086
    @kfry4086 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Finally a deck I can get behind

  • @HadesElderSage
    @HadesElderSage Před 3 měsíci +10

    Groundbreaker also works!

  • @OdinMagnus
    @OdinMagnus Před 3 měsíci +1

    we had better see this in "against the odds"

  • @bigLoser818
    @bigLoser818 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Lightning crashes, an old mother dies.

  • @Anonymous_Eyeballs
    @Anonymous_Eyeballs Před 3 měsíci +1

    The music choice for the card name is immaculate. I see you sir, and I tip my hat

    • @kianuparty
      @kianuparty Před 2 měsíci

      Im having the hardest brain fart. What song is it? It's right on the top of my tongue

    • @Anonymous_Eyeballs
      @Anonymous_Eyeballs Před 2 měsíci

      @@kianuparty Lightning by Live

  • @cassiuspeter9673
    @cassiuspeter9673 Před 2 měsíci

    Make sure you add on a few leyline of punishment. In addition to countering any and all fog effects, you can potentially get them for free if they're in your opening hand.

  • @zertamtg1334
    @zertamtg1334 Před 3 měsíci

    Seth not remembering groundbreaker is breaking my heart

  • @gypsieking3280
    @gypsieking3280 Před 3 měsíci +5

    Excellent music choice

  • @sethb3090
    @sethb3090 Před 3 měsíci

    Oh look, a green enchantment that's the unholy offspring of Thrumming Stone and Maelstrom Wanderer

  • @total_dk6517
    @total_dk6517 Před 3 měsíci

    Phlage also kicks it off nicely.

  • @total_dk6517
    @total_dk6517 Před 3 měsíci

    Arc runner is like this, but without trample, so depending on how many you need, that's one more.

  • @ObeseN1NJA
    @ObeseN1NJA Před 3 měsíci +2

    Im just vibing to Live

  • @noasinclair
    @noasinclair Před 3 měsíci

    ''Primal Prayers'' also could help in this deck, what do you think guys?

  • @OGNoNameNobody
    @OGNoNameNobody Před 3 měsíci +7

    Everyone on here who said *Groundbreaker* is Correct.

    • @davidhower7095
      @davidhower7095 Před 3 měsíci

      Probably the four-of. You’ll need green for Vortex and ramp, anyway.

    • @nosrenda1014
      @nosrenda1014 Před 3 měsíci +1

      There’s also arc runner which works just as well as all the others but is easier to cast cause it’s only got 1 colored pip

  • @OneMoreGame0524
    @OneMoreGame0524 Před 3 měsíci

    The Master, Multiplied is the perfect commander for Ball Lightning tbh

  • @kartzzy6101
    @kartzzy6101 Před 3 měsíci

    Monstrous vortex being printed at uncommon is a perfect encapsulation of post 2019 power spiking. I stopped playing shortly after gatecrash released. My main format had been standard, but i had switched to commander around 2011-2012. I got back into the game in January 2020 and was blown away at the power level of newer card sets being printed. The craziest part is that if this card was printed in 2011, it'd be a mythic rare and in 2024 its just a random uncommon.

    • @ceulgai2817
      @ceulgai2817 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Because in 2011, rarity wasn't about power; it was about complexity.

  • @WormOTB
    @WormOTB Před 3 měsíci +1

    Excited for this against the odds

  • @lokismischief2512
    @lokismischief2512 Před 2 měsíci

    Skelemental is amazing, I've won a lot of games with those slilly boom skulls.

  • @Doug464
    @Doug464 Před 2 měsíci

    "I cast cinderclasm" "aw man :("

  • @HeWhoSlayethCain
    @HeWhoSlayethCain Před 3 měsíci

    Well, i play a Blightning Elemental deck that works pretty well. And it's fun as hell.

  • @mikebenson3652
    @mikebenson3652 Před 3 měsíci

    You can also play ground breaker or the lifelinking ball lightning at 4mana

  • @LegoMyachi
    @LegoMyachi Před 3 měsíci +1

    I love the Hunter s Thompson shirt 👍🏻

  • @paxpw4017
    @paxpw4017 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Prevent combat damage until end of turn.
    On a more serious note I’d love to see someone’s face after they lose to ball lightning like that. I’d say like my balls?

  • @xeni-1
    @xeni-1 Před 3 měsíci

    Just jumping into modern and gonna try this out!

  • @Colton-wz5sh
    @Colton-wz5sh Před 3 měsíci

    Instead of relying on a cmc 4 card that has to be in play first, just play birds of paradise or ignoble hierarch turn 1, ball lightning or groundbreaker turn 2, then another groundbreaker/ ball lightning and an Unearth on turn 3. If they’ve played 2 fetchlands or a shock land, they’re now dead. The cmc 4 slot should be a collected company

  • @FlyingDominion
    @FlyingDominion Před 3 měsíci

    Opponent: Fog.

  • @brycerodewald126
    @brycerodewald126 Před 3 měsíci

    I ran the shit out of ball lightning not having a lot of money but still wanted to compete in modern tournaments at my lgs without getting completely ran over mono red burn was my go to
    4 lightning bolt
    4 lava spike
    4 skewer the critics
    4 rift bolt
    4 shock
    4 tarfire
    4 light-up the stage
    4 needle drop
    4 vexing devil
    4 spark elemental
    4 ball lightning
    16 mountains
    Side board
    4 smash to smithereens
    4 skullcrack

  • @Erik_Sjostrom
    @Erik_Sjostrom Před 3 měsíci +1

    Force of Despair

  • @tcsmagicbox
    @tcsmagicbox Před 3 měsíci

    If you're playing Ball Lightning, Groundbreaker, and Lightning Skelemental, the mana base is going to be insane!

  • @doomclaw9787
    @doomclaw9787 Před 3 měsíci

    This could be interesting with the new phlage because its also a 3 cost 6 power creature for the combo and its just a lightning helix with escape.

  • @WoodWisp
    @WoodWisp Před 3 měsíci

    12 if you include groundbreaker. Also, please call the deck "Oops, Ball Lightning"

  • @Kudosohk-xe5rv
    @Kudosohk-xe5rv Před 2 měsíci

    You can also add spark trooper!

  • @WideDad
    @WideDad Před 3 měsíci

    Please give us ball lighting against the odds!

  • @michaelc9400
    @michaelc9400 Před 3 měsíci

    This is my jam 😁 already have the deck just need that card

  • @coreymartin9630
    @coreymartin9630 Před 2 měsíci

    Imagine if Ball Lightning had Flash, you could also use it as a 6 damage chump blocker

  • @Blu_Moon_Owl
    @Blu_Moon_Owl Před 27 dny +1

    Are there any clone creatures or spells that cost 3 mana? That way you can have a lot more balls

  • @samw6414
    @samw6414 Před 3 měsíci

    i’ve been calling this deck discover balls

  • @moonlightdemon5551
    @moonlightdemon5551 Před 3 měsíci

    You can add the four drop spark trooper for LifeLink

  • @ZeroInfiniti2
    @ZeroInfiniti2 Před 3 měsíci +1

    shall call it "8-ball"

  • @captianbacon
    @captianbacon Před 3 měsíci

    Idk if it's worth including but fleetwheel cruiser is a 4 mana 5/3 veichal with trample haste and is a Creature t1

  • @Alex-mb8en
    @Alex-mb8en Před 2 měsíci

    My first modern night at the lgc I beat Jund with a top deck ball lightning 🤣. This was back in 2016 lol

  • @turn0back0sarah
    @turn0back0sarah Před 3 měsíci

    Why do you have the intro to lightning crashes by Live on loop for this?!?!?!

  • @bloodyjester4284
    @bloodyjester4284 Před 3 měsíci

    Against the odds time!

  • @tdimensional6733
    @tdimensional6733 Před 3 měsíci

    He will never be ballin'.

  • @ThePestilentDefiler
    @ThePestilentDefiler Před 3 měsíci

    My only deck i made for modern is a mono red ball lightning deck. I still got it somewhere.

  • @imghostkitty7297
    @imghostkitty7297 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Marrow Shards in the corner:

  • @mikaildemirdelen5543
    @mikaildemirdelen5543 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Please play this deck seth !

  • @petersteiman2443
    @petersteiman2443 Před 3 měsíci

    Don’t forget about Groundbreaker.

  • @matthewdavis6741
    @matthewdavis6741 Před 3 měsíci +1

    So I’ve become obsessed with getting this to work now
    Is anyone considering Zoyowa’s Justice from LCI? Am I missing something? I feel like this can help build your board even without Monstrous Vortex. It’s sort of a mini-Vortex

    • @ReyaadawnMTG
      @ReyaadawnMTG Před 3 měsíci +1

      BloodBraid Elf or Geological Appraiser are probably better.
      I built a version and posted the full deck tech video on my channel.

  • @dislikebutton9571
    @dislikebutton9571 Před 3 měsíci

    dies to the fog meta, richard just cant stop winning.

  • @thevaultwalrus
    @thevaultwalrus Před 3 měsíci

    No -1-1 cards hopefully

  • @grnman86
    @grnman86 Před 3 měsíci

    BLISTERING FIRECAT!

  • @timtauber5557
    @timtauber5557 Před 3 měsíci

    Ball lightning + Teferi’s veil was the trick years ago.

  • @Blight-Knight9
    @Blight-Knight9 Před 3 měsíci

    There’s also the Boros one as well

  • @total_dk6517
    @total_dk6517 Před 3 měsíci

    You can also kick off the chain with Kroxa or Uro

  • @eonaon6914
    @eonaon6914 Před 3 měsíci

    nah nah you want to put in
    Groundbreaker as well since its on color and can be played by itself. Now that isnt to say dont play skelemental but to start the chain even more.

  • @Arcolyte13
    @Arcolyte13 Před 3 měsíci

    Neutralize the guards time to shine. 😂
    This is looking pretty spicy for the eldrazi deck. Discover counts as casting doesn't it?

    • @ceulgai2817
      @ceulgai2817 Před 3 měsíci

      Yes, and that's why it loops!

    • @Arcolyte13
      @Arcolyte13 Před 3 měsíci

      @@ceulgai2817 I was asking about situations where you could slot some of the new eldrazi in with their casts. Though I don't think they'd work for this explicit purpose but still neat

  • @johnathanward867
    @johnathanward867 Před 3 měsíci

    Jund'em back on the menu?!

  • @jamesfilyawDigginGabe
    @jamesfilyawDigginGabe Před 3 měsíci

    Lllllllightning SKELEmental!

  • @fakename3168
    @fakename3168 Před 3 měsíci

    Nyxathid and force of savagery would also work just as a way to start the cascade

  • @toirt-ls6qs
    @toirt-ls6qs Před 2 měsíci

    what about some kind of recursion in case they fog you, what would you suggest?

  • @rav5373
    @rav5373 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I'm going to be ballin once mh3 is out

  • @Goblinking315
    @Goblinking315 Před 2 měsíci

    If this isn’t an Against the Odds immediately I’ll be disappointed. Jund Lightning. You even get to run flare of cultivation and arboreal grazer, Seth!

  • @andrewgolubiewski3463
    @andrewgolubiewski3463 Před 3 měsíci

    Oh man, something like end the festivities really wants this match up.

    • @phelandiller4066
      @phelandiller4066 Před 3 měsíci +2

      That sorcery won't save you, but enchantment removal just slams the door lol

    • @andrewgolubiewski3463
      @andrewgolubiewski3463 Před 3 měsíci

      @@phelandiller4066 the vagueness of "something like" was pulling heavy lifting there. I'm too lazy to look up an instant 1 damage to all creatures spell. 😆

    • @thaddeusgenhelm8979
      @thaddeusgenhelm8979 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@andrewgolubiewski3463 Seismic Wave will do it! And 2 damage to the opponent's face for spite!
      I mean, I dunno that anyone plays Seismic Wave outside of people with limited Arena card collections or something, but it does technically do the job.

    • @AlienValkyrie
      @AlienValkyrie Před 3 měsíci

      Marrow Shards. It even costs phyrexian mana, so you can still cast it when tapped out.

  • @jeroazulay5683
    @jeroazulay5683 Před 3 měsíci +1

    steal leaf champion also works

    • @pmf98
      @pmf98 Před 3 měsíci

      Excellent backup plan if you’re not able to take out the opponent in one swing, in some unlikely occasion.

    • @ReyaadawnMTG
      @ReyaadawnMTG Před 3 měsíci +1

      Pugnacious Hammerskull probably works better.

  • @fleurymarc
    @fleurymarc Před 3 měsíci

    This was already possible with Wild Pair and Greebelt Rampager (though Wild Pair is six mana)

  • @JOHNBPARKOUR
    @JOHNBPARKOUR Před 3 měsíci

    100% building this

  • @natanmaia3575
    @natanmaia3575 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Guess I know what deck I'll be building :)

  • @titaseafell6520
    @titaseafell6520 Před 2 měsíci

    Good luck surviving until that time in modern without 1,2 and 3 drops and fury banned

  • @ty_sylicus
    @ty_sylicus Před 3 měsíci

    Have a Ball!

  • @jeroazulay5683
    @jeroazulay5683 Před 3 měsíci +2

    force of savagery its a free cascade and a very bad card in general

  • @alanpigate8776
    @alanpigate8776 Před 3 měsíci

    Fun against the odds for the future?

  • @dannykstick
    @dannykstick Před 3 měsíci

    I thought this card was so good when I first started in magic.

  • @theodicy4
    @theodicy4 Před 3 měsíci

    Might as well go with Athreos and add insult to injury.

  • @rkade7308
    @rkade7308 Před 2 měsíci

    But the discovered lighting ball wouldn't trigger another discover ability?

  • @noxouphe4370
    @noxouphe4370 Před 3 měsíci

    Hell's Thunder too

  • @swakage13x
    @swakage13x Před 3 měsíci

    Yeah you got to either have seven mana to do it the same time or you have to be lucky and are able to do this by turn 4 or 5

  • @KenpachiPoker
    @KenpachiPoker Před 3 měsíci

    Throw some grave pact in for fun

  • @imaginarymatter
    @imaginarymatter Před 3 měsíci

    What an interesting Discover-y.

  • @paperpauperplayer
    @paperpauperplayer Před 3 měsíci

    Me when I get Settle the Wreckaged in 2024 👁👄👁