My does as well thats because its an SRT the only difference with the hellcat is the supercharger take that off and tell me what u have with a 6.2 engine instead of a 6.4
You can get the flat bottom steering wheel with the dynamics package also the 6 piston brembos. I have a 2020 scat daytona edition that comes with the leather cloth seats the Mopar intake and 275s. They are all the same shit just different editions.
You know the scat pack was a trim level that was in the 70 and the srt didn’t come out till 2005 that’s why dodge doesn’t Consider the scat pack a SRT. Same with the Daytona package
Our SRT's have Drag settings and wider rear tires stock and Hellcat brakes in the front. That's really the only difference. All Hemi's have Street Racing Technology but if it ain't the full SRT package then they technically don't consider Scats and RT's a SRT. I went to the dealership to look at Scats and I saw what appeared to be a Scat but the prices were different and I asked what was the difference and they didn't even know. I got the SRT 392. There's literally no difference unless you drag race which I never have.
@@SRT_DREyou're mostly right but Scats always had launch control like the SRT 392 and 275s and 6 pistons became available in late 17 for Scats under dynamics..your dampers (before 19) was the main exclusive thing at that point (not the only but to me the biggest)
Scat's have always been labeled as an R/T, but Scatpack's were never just a base R/T. The modern Scatpack & SRT 392, essential in different ways, replaced the Superbee, which in itself, was listed as an SRT (SRT8 to be exact). They even use similar bee on wheels icons, they just kind of split the name so-to-speak, so there's no SRT Scatpack like there was a SRT Superbee, as the SRT portion was used for the 392 trim. Superbee was also a trim from way back in the day too, before SRT ever existed, but Dodge still called it an SRT when they brought the moniker back, so I don't think it has a lot to do with the fact that, Scatpack was a trim from back then, when SRT didn't exist.
SRT's! Permium Seats full leather or Alcantara, Flat bottom steering wheel, Six piston Brembos, 9.5 rims all the way around, 275's all the way around, Billstein suspension, driving modes,and just the swagger.. This is all standard on the SRT. Remember Scat Packs you have to option up to get these things, you can jump in a 2020 Scat and it won't have leather,Nav,etc...
I have a 2020 Pitch Black WB Scat. I have everything but the navigation and sun roof. I have leather, flat bottom steering wheel, 6 piston brimbo’s in the front and 4 piston in the back, 305’s all the way around. So tell me what am I missing from the SRT?? I know that no one’s wants the Scat to be a SRT but mine says it on the engine. Why would it say SRT if it wasn’t?? I don’t think that would be legal for Dodge to do? I don’t care what people think because it’s a BEAST. Funny I get the guys in the Civic’s that want to race. It’s hilarious. In the beginning it would piss me off but I got used to it.
@ushio Not sure where you got yours but my 2020 Scat WB has red leather with red alcantara which I believe is also leather. Doesn’t yours or are you one of those know it all’s that doesn’t have one because you don’t know what you’re talking about..
All I care about is that 392 under that hood and that Dodge offers it...and considering that I was going to get a Grand Cherokee SRT, I equipped my Scat identically to it (sans the flat bottom and adaptive dampers, 6 pistons and AWD) with a lower insurance cost quote (even tho a sedan vs SUV insurance have other factors)..worked out in my favor.....its fun as hell too...badges, little parts and interior bits that people can actually change and modify themselves should not be causing division like I've been seeing..some comments people posting isn't accurate either and it shows...
The SCAT PACK was made to be a “RT” with the 392 motor that’s why when scats were first made the were putting the rt badges on them y. The SRT 392 was made to be just like the hellcat but without the motor. The scats out grew the srt 392 because you could get the same exact engine for significantly less. But now you can even get every option on the scats as you could in a srt 392 which they stopped selling back 2017. I personally feel the 392 is better buy and holds more value. Just something about seeing that SRT on the whip 🔥
@@hellhound6598 I did notice with chargers I seen a handle full of 2018 srt 392s nationwide but for challenger I’ve never seen a 2018 392 isn’t that strange?
Dodge been lifting front ends of the ground since the 60s they know what they doing,,its for selling purposes to sell more commercially,,srts and hellcats are more niche,,and yes exactly like you said insurance is also tied into that as well
lol I have both I still have way more fun in my sti I just got it tuned & it's definitely capable of being faster stock for stock the v8 wins forsure but with tune on the sti the power is always put down on point all around sti wins v8 is a nice highway puller sti is killer on the track & in fucked up weather I enjoy both tho
When I bought my 2019 Scat Pack. Filling out the insurance through progressive. There were 3 options for the Charger. Charger v6 Charger v8 Charger SRT Hellcat.
@@themarathoncontinues2289 well My 1320 is a R T but powered by SRT package . The 1320 is just a less expensive Demon And less H P but The rest of it is a Demon
@@shisnatz2 sorry Man I don't want to hurt your feelings but that's exactly what the 1320 is I know I own 1 The only difference is the motor the 1320 has 485hp were the Demon had over 800 to 900 hp infact Dodge advertise it as a poor man's demon in fact The 1320 can push more than 485 hp I pushed mine to 525 hp.
I think learning about all the trim levels is beneficial to respect all trim levels. The R/T was the bees knees back in the day. SRT didn't even exist. SRT is something completely different and should be studied.
@@danielhunsinger8017 yea you right I noticed you were talking about way back then after the fact of me commenting but I couldn’t find the comment to delete it
What's even more funny is that my 2018 base model Charger Scatpack is slightly faster than my wifes 2018 loaded Charger SRT from 60 to 120 due to less weight. My breaks or smaller lighter Suspension is lighter Interior is lighter No sunroof No adaptive cruise control Wheels and tires or lighter But I would still rather drive her car Lol Great video 👍
The differences were the brakes, the suspension, gauges, & the performance pages. The was also the appearance package. The insurance thing is true. The more power the vehicle has, the higher the insurance premiums. Like you said, SRT is a premium. Hence why I got an R/T, & plan to do an engine swap. Insurance companies base things off the VIN.
The more power? Srt 392 and scatpack 392 same power so im lost. Atleast my 2018 is the same as the SRT fortunately the owner before me upgraded to 6 piston and put 275s in the front and then 315s in the back
@@kendrick4062 That was a general statement. Not specific to the Scatpack & SRT 392. Point being an R/T cost more to insure than an SXT. The Scat more than the R/T, & so on.
@ItachiTheSuperSaiyan Petty's Garage has a 426-based 448 Stroker that I'm wanting to get. Essentially it's a 426 that's been bored & stroked to 448ci. Just haven't decided if i wanna stay N/A or add a blower. Keto in mind that if you wanna do the same thing, you'll need to upgrade the rest of your power train first. This means your trans, driveshaft, & axles. Upgrading the diff wouldn't hurt either, & upgrading the brakes is never a bad idea. By this i mean the actual calipers, not just putting stupid cross-drilled rotors which in reality hurt your breaking performance.
For insurance I paid $100 a month for my SCAT Pack since it's wasn't considered a "high performance car" as an R/T. I bought a hellcat and my insurance jumped up to $270 a month
And the point of this was.... look the bumblebee is a 392 powerplant, minus the compressed air add on that the Hellcat has making it 707hp. But if anyone thinks that a Scatpack does not jump out at anyone as performance is sipping on some “Jim Jones” Kool-Aid. Truth be told the average driver on the road won’t know your car which has kitten on the side, versus a Daytona, GT, SXT, RT, wide body or not. Don’t you get it these cars are a dime for a dozen on the road. Mopar has yet to find out why these auto transmissions keeping going in to “limp mode” out the blue. You are not superior, just because you got approved for a $1200 monthly car note keep it a buck.
Was surprised when I went to look at Hellcats, they ended up giving me more than I owed for my SRT 392. Ended up trading it in for a Hellcat. Lower payment and it's a HC? Yes please! Love mopar! So much fun to drive!
Can I ask how many miles you had on your srt? I'm in the exact same spot and I've been really thinking of doing this exact same thing with my Srt8 challenger.
@@asthecrowflies1201 Sure thing. It had exactly 41,703. Had the paperwork nearby so was easy to check. Never hurts to check! The hellcat is so awesome. Loved the 392 I had, but the HC is on a whole different level.
Srt’s 392 were designed and conceptualized to be limited production run cars. It was dodge’s way of making the owners feel special. Apart from that yes the srt’s have bigger brakes, wheels, performance pages, and flat bottom steering wheel. They also have the adjustable bilstein suspension from factory and a different/more aggressive rear end ratio than the scats. Minor details include the full halogen headlights and foglights. There were also some minor options that were offered only in the 392’s. Idk if it’s worth the extra money for one since I’ve never driven a scat, but I can tell you I love my 392 to death.
your 100% correct , I learned the hard on my last purchase I thought my 4 door sedan would be on the insurance, but that damn badge made the insurance classify it as sports car and my insurance doubled
4 door sedan isn’t how insurance works, (common misconception though) it’s based on what others are doing with the same vehicle. When I was 21 and I bought my 2013 brz my insurance quote was $20 more than a 18 (at that time brand new) C7Z. Now if you know anything about cars it’s a big difference between those vehicles but corvettes are cheap to insure because the majority of those owners are old men who don’t wreck their car (aka no accidents) therefore leading to lowering the cost to insure one for all of us irresponsible vette buyers :)
@@Knockout360 beautiful car. Just traded my black 2020 Charger R/T for a Gold Rush 50th anniversary 2020 Challenger 392 T/A number 6 of 70. Fuckin love it!
I have a 2020 scatpack daytona edition. The daytona edition comes with 275 tires the leather cloth seats and the Mopar intake. If you want the flat bottom steering wheel you need the dynamics package, that gives you the 6 piston brembos as well, they are all the same shit same motor just different editions.
The SRT has the magna ride suspension, which does not come with the standard scatpack, only on the wide body in the scatpack line. Brakes can be upgraded on the scatpack with the dynamics package. Also, the srt comes with the ZF90 transmission, which is in the hellcat also. All scatpacks come with the ZF70, which is not rated for as much hp and track mode performance is slightly increased with the ZF90 supposedly.
What up Knockout 360,I'm new to the channel and I do not own a Mopar product but I am a car guy American Muscle all day. I just wanted to say that this is true and was done years ago in order to keep insurance premiums down,GM, Ford and Mopar have all done this before I started driving.
I can only imagine how fast the Subaru was going to past you; I lost sight of Subaru from the Point of view angle. Great content 💯 , keep em coming 👍🏿👍🏿🇺🇸
You are correct Knockout. Insurance company’s see the Scat Pack as an R/T. Scat Packs do not have their own category in insurance systems unlike SXT, R/T and SRT. So, If you give your insurance a challenger/charger scat pack vin number, it will populate in the system as just R/T. Despite the Scat Pack having the larger engine.
It was really nothing performance wise but it was a higher tier because it had nicer touch ups especially visually. Visually the 392 SRT almost looks identical to a Hellcat. The scat packs back then looked more like a V6 or 5.7. they're just a basic cheap version made to go fast. Like buying a V6 and dropping a 392 in it. Cheap seats versus laguna leather and basic sound system standard too.
Dodge been playing games like this for years, this is just one of many. 2017 above Charger RT's with active exhaust and Durango RT's are both underrated by about 20-25 HP.
It feels good when them srt owners clown a rt and a scat because the rt owners and scats be clowning them v6 owners. So they get a taste of there on medicine😂. Point is someone Is always going to have a faster car.💯
@@themarathoncontinues2289 Because the engine says powered by SRT, and the displacement of the engine is 392 cubic inches. Saying that a scat pack isn't an SRT, is like saying that the TRX and Trackhawk aren't SRT's. They aren't called SRT's, but they literally have a hellcat motor. I don't care what you say, my "non SRT" is faster than your SRT. The scat pack is lighter than the SRT, and is therefore faster. If you think you need that SRT logo on the steering wheel, then by all means. While you spend that extra 10k on that steering wheel, I'll be saving it for a Ram TRX. You'll have an SRT 392. I'll have a scat pack and a Ram TRX. Which seems like a smarter, and better decision?
So this video stumbled into my feed as I am a car enthusiast of ALL vehicles. First thing is that the insurance reason is not why the name was changed. Insurance companies know exactly what your vehicle is the moment you give them your VIN. FCA came up with the SRT name as a catch-all for planned performance car names that were originally Plymouths, such as SRT Barracuda. They actually listed the Viper as an SRT branded vehicle for a short time. When the plans for the Barracuda fell through they decided a separate performance brand name wasn’t necessary. This was going to follow the course laid out when they renamed the trucks from Dodge to Ram, so sister dealers like Jeep and Chrysler could carry them in the showroom without the Dodge moniker. I have a love for Dodge and I think that the 345 and 397 are some amazing engines. The only downfall is the power to weight ratio. the 392 in the charger has a 0-60 of 4.3 and qtr mile of 12.4 which is okay for 485 crank hp. Power to weight ratio, gear ratio, tires, chassis all play a great deal in how a vehicle performs. The car suffers from its weight. Its a great cruiser/bruiser but with the right modifications can be pretty quick. I have had a lot of modded performance vehicles from bmw, chevy, acura, and a built 2013 evo gsr. I can appreciate everything for what they are and what can be done do them and each has their own driving dynamic. my bmw m340 with 385 crank hp does 0-60 in 3.8 and a qtr mile of 12.1 with x drive. I love imports to include germans, japanese, korean etc. I think that its poor judgement in your videos that you degrade others because you feel that your 392 is some superior legendary vehicle that dominates everything on the road when truth is its a regular line production vehicle with an L chassis from very early 2000s. You dis chevy and ford by saying they dont want that smoke but in reality you'd be the one getting smoked. A camaro ss 1le or mustang gt with performance package both with auto will eat a 392's lunch. For the love of cars please be more respectful of other vehicles on the road and what others drive and be greatful for the nice car you have. Apparently you came from a v6 branded "muscle" car to your first v8 so inherently it will feel and sound fast but in reality there is much more to be learned in your future in the automotive industry. I have auto x and dragged for over 10 years and have a lot of time behind the wheel of many different vehicles. I am a subscriber and generally a huge car enthusiast who enjoys your content and your enthusiasm but remember everyone likes their cars and what they buy for them and to disrespect others for what they drive is no bueno. Stay humble be safe and happy you came out unscathed from your accident.
The ones that got ripped were the srt 392s because they have 485 hp like the other 392s....srt 392s should have been given at least 585 hp or 600 hp....who agrees?
Just like Tudor watches they are made by Rolex but don't have the Rolex name on the front dial. Having the "made by Rolex" inscription inside a Tudor watch just doesn't feal the same for some reason even if you know its very much the same. Sounds very similar to: "Powered by SRT" The genuine badge or name sometimes makes a world of a difference for those who care and want the original thing! Specially when they're discontinued! That's the reason why it comes with a higher price tag. Great vid and Scat👍
Where do y’all live? $185 for a 392? I live in Tennessee/Nashville area and I pay $110 for mine. I added my daily driver, an 07 Camry to my insurance and I still only pay $135.
@@tappy3422 an F1 isn't a BMW bc it has a BMW engine tho. What the FCA is doing is still pointless tho. Even wit minor differences, they're all still basically the same.
@@tappy3422 nah I get you. Idk why they make the unnecessary distinction. If this insurance thing is true, then I guess that makes sense. Other than that, it just seems unnecessary.
Very good video. I have a 2014 SRT8 Charger. Back then there was no Scat Pack available. Just SXT, RT and SRT and some special edition variants mixed in. The Super Bee was kinda like a Scat Pack. Has the 6.4 liter engine but downgraded interior, brakes etc.
Dodge basically said everybody dont deserve the SRT badge . If you want it pay for it by getting a hellcat/ redeye, demon and daytona separated from scatpacks now which it should have been . Daytona models always been a exclusive model when represented.
I don’t understand why the whole scatpack community cries about their car not being considered a SRT lol who cares? You guys want a SRT but don’t want to pay the money for one. Scatpacks come with the WB and all these new features but are quick to take the bee and R/T badges off like it’s a bad thing to have them on their car for the purpose of fake flexing their car with “SRT” everywhere lol just be happy with the damn car and stop crying about it because there are people looking at your cars wishing it was them.
SRT is its own brand,The scat came out dodge was selling more scatsThen SRT’s 392s so Dodge Is saving us more money And there making more money Selling more units so they drop the 392 SRT gave the features that the SRT had to the scat pack in 2019 people buy more because of the price and Dodge makes more because they sell more cars that’s how that works,SRT still has all the jeeps though they have the hellcats the red eyes the demons and now the super Stock.Like I said SRT and Dodge Are separate brands,SRT owns Rights to the engine but the rest of the cars are Mopar As well as the parts they will say Mopar Dodge Owens The Mopar name they do not own SRT
I was under the impression that SRT was the name of their internal performance gang, not an stand alone, external entity. Then again, after -F came along and put their grimy tentacles all over things, I wouldn't be surprised if such a spin of happened
Every model made from the SXT to the Demon or Red eye are modeled correctly. A Scat pack is a Trim level with it's own options. The SRT is a different equipped car. Has nothing to do with insurance. Sounds like people making things up. What you need to do is take a 392 SRT and a Scat pack build, they are not the same. Yes same 392 engine but there are many things that are different. Today you can not get a SRT model that's not a Hellcat. SRT designed cars are only Hellcats now and thats how it is. If you want a SRT , buy a SRT. Don't complain about owning a Scat pack and it's not a SRT, you didn't buy a SRT you got a Scat pack. I don't see the issue here. I do see all these cars are awesome. So love your model for what is it and not for what it is not.
@@Knockout360 The STI puts out like 300 horses give or take from the factory. Their advantage though is they are AWD. I think the older ones have an advantage as they're smaller & weigh less than the new ones.
That “srt powered” emblem shit so lame to me😂😂😂 let a scat be a scat and a cat be a cat, they be putting srt steering wheels on scats and everything, buying old srt seats lmao
The Scat is technically a R/T. Dodge did this to represent the original Scat back in 70s which was the Coronet. The real super bee!.. it’s confusing to those who don’t really know too much abt Mopar and or Dodge Challengers and Chargers. Obviously the Scat has a 6.4 392 which you would think it’s a SRT but it’s not, it’s a RT. It’s a RT because of the trim level. The SRTs come with a higher level of options like hellcats. Like the scat only get 4 piston brembos and the SRT gets 6 piston brembos. The 392 gets adaptive suspension and the scat gets bilstein sport suspension.the srts get 275s on all 4 corners and scat gets 245s. Lots of other bells and whistles but the motor is the same!...
It doesn't matter what your license says I have An CDL go to class once a year for safety class haven't had an accident in over 40years And My insurance in creased about 25 percent just because of The car being The 1320 package And it can be a Race car
@@Knockout360 I really think that FCC changed things because of fuel. Consumption these car's are not getting The mpg they say. And if you are you're driving it like you just got your license or 90 year's old And The government is looking into this in NJ I had to pay 1000$ gas tax
@@Knockout360 ay fr tho no hate towards u, I love the new body style and the wide bodys , I got the 2013 5.7 and I like to watch charger content cause it's my first car I'm tryna get ideas for mods
As well as the differences as others have mentioned before, before they discontinued the SRT 392 you could not get the dynamic damping suspension with the 3 ride modes in a scat pack. Also the SRT came with 6 piston Brembo brake calipers and the scat pack with 4 piston Brembo calipers. The SRT came with a premium interior and sound system and all the bells and whistles. After they discontinued the SRT 392 all those became options on the scat pack. To get a scat pack specked out like the SRT 392 your gonna pay the same price or more than what the SRT 392 cost.
@@Knockout360 The scat pack is older than SRT. The scat pack name was first used in 1970. The SRT name was first used in I think the 80's. It technically is an SRT, but they want to keep it true to it's heritage, so they still call it an RT. I'd rather have a scat pack than an SRT 392. Who the hell just wants a car called 392? It's either scat pack or hellcat. I think it's funny how all the SRT 392 guys hate the scat pack because it's "not an SRT", but the scat pack is faster because it's lighter. Idiots are mad because they could've got a hellcat for the same price😂.
I live in fla I have a 2021 scatpack I pay $292 monthly. My license is clean and no tickets. You must live in a low populated area Lucky you I like your content Holla
Sounds good, but it’s not true, lol. Insurance companies aren’t just mommies in suits, they know exactly what engine and how much power each car has. They didn’t put the SRT badge because they were killing the brand. SRT has disbanded
A scatt is ok, and it was ok until I bought my Hellcat, that’s when I understood why that SRT badge is on my wheel. It’s either the best, or it ain’t 🤷🏾♂️
SRTs are not Scatpack, but all Scatpacks want to be SRTs. LOL Don’t know why this is even a debate. SRT has a different engine combination, same block, different trans, different brakes, different shocks /suspension, different programming likely better cooling as well. How many more different things need to be different before the Scatpack guys quit pretending they own the same thing? Let it go, you got what you got. If you want an SRT then go buy one.
@@Knockout360 well The Demon has a full Race suspension which was incorporated into the 1320 And a lot of SRT packages SRT stands for Street race technology which I know you know so do the insurance company's Chrysler doesn't care what you pay for insurance. I look at it this way if you can afford to buy one of these beasts you better be able to afford The insurance And fuel it also has a lot to do with how much insurance you carry I carry a 1/4 million$ policy just on My cars alone
This is the difference from what I’ve read scat packs are R/T’s with the SRT engine they are built in the Windsor assembly plant in Canada along with all the other FCA vehicles. SRT’s are built in Detroit at the Street Racing Technology plant a completely different assembly line where the chassis are strengthened and built with Street Racing Technologies components. Scat packs have SRT motors and power but they are far from a SRT. SRT’s have special vin numbers as well which is why the insurance is more don’t get me wrong SP’s are the best bang for your buck but they are not a Street Racing and Technology vehicle it’s more than just the engine and brakes it’s the suspension chassis and components etc they are built in two different plants I hope this explains it
Facts.. cause when i put insurance on my srt300.. the rate was sky high as opposed to my old charger sxt. I told the guy it was a luxury vehicle.. he laughed and said.. the vin says its an SRT8 🤦🏾♂️
Here in Texas the Insurance company put them under sport cars. I try to get a SXT+ they told me $326 no accidents no tickets. When I ask what is the difference and they told me there where no difference in price
That would be interesting to find out...because I have a 2015 SRT392.... my understanding was that the SRT trim was a little more dressier trim but with the bigger brakes... and that the SCATS were a more “raw” muscle car... but it’s weird they only did that for 2015-2018. ....crazy!! Happy New Year bro! 🤙🏾👊🏾
the 392 and hellcat are srt products. the scat pack is a package for the r/t. dodge did this so that more people could have access to a performance vehicle without paying a boatload of money. it’s a similar situation to the srt8s and super bees. happy new year
The difference in insurance from a scatpack to a Hellcat with Geico was The Scatpack was $1668 a year and The Hellcat is $1,993 a year ,But i also have 2 other cars so im sure if i didnt the insurance would be higher if lets say my only car was a Hellcat
As far as insurance is concerned, it's not necessarily that they get accidents or tickets more. It's quite literally because of parts, exactly equivalent to an AMG, S audi, M BMW, V Cadillac, zl1 Chevy, the parts on a hellcat are expensive. A srt 392 and a scat pack will have the same differences. For instance my hellcat front rotors cost 1k a piece, 550 for the pads, that's just parts. The srt 392 doesn't have the same size in the front, I believe they are a brembo 4 piston big brake kit, whereas the hellcat is the six piston. And just goes on from there, 275 tires obviously cost more than 245 tires. The parts for a srt car literally cost more, so they charge more. On top of them costing more, they aren't parts that are used industry wide, meaning there aren't cheaper aftermarket alternatives, all the srt parts come from one place FCA, and they are notoriously bad as a parts supplier. For instance, I had a bearing going out on my supercharger pulley, no big deal, except FCA does not sell any part of the supercharger assembly, including the gasket, as a separate part. Meaning ANYTHING from the gasket up means replacing everything. 7k, my new supercharger assembly had a bad secondary fuel relay, guess what, 7k another brand new entire assembly. These are the reasons a srt car cost more to insure.
I got a 50th anniversary widebody shaker 392 scat pack. It has all the features of the hell cat , engine is the only difference. Bought it cuz I love the shaker hood! Something they will never put on a hell cat! The shaker hood makes the car look meaner and more old school. The 2020 scatpack is an 392 SRT. They just changed the badging
I only got the SRT model because they offer leather seats heated and cooled. I had a 2015 lime green scat pack same engine but the amenities were basic that car was all engine and nothing else but my SRT392 checked all the boxes for me and I love it.
Not true! Cause when the insurance company runs your vin number. It comes showing the vehicle equipped with a 392 which shots your insurance up. I know because I have all three, the Hellcat, SRT, and ScatPack
Dude my insurance premium went down coming from the charger RT 5.7 to a 392 Daytona I was shocked I thought it was gna go up but it went down from 160$ to 120$ monthly for the 392 Daytona
Bro I literally made a video talking about this. Its definitely weird my 50th anniversary dodge challenger widebody scatpack shaker had all the srt badges on the engine when it comes on ect then the grille has a rt badge as simple as it is it drove me nuts. But its all good I bought a 2020 widebody hellcat. Good video bro bro.
I judge whether a car is an SRT or not based on the performance. If the car has an SRT engineered engine, then it’s an SRT. After all, SRT stands for street racing technology. So it would make sense that if the engine, transmission, and performance is engineered by SRT, then it’s an SRT. The reason dodge calls scatpacks RTs is cause in the 70s the old scatpacks were originally SRT’s. And since dodge was reviving the scatpack with the same looks and whatnot it used to have, they might as well stick to the same heritage by calling it an RT. That’s just my take on it 🤷♂️
@@Knockout360 right? Dodge has always been badging their cars based off the engine. RTs have RT engines, SRTs have SRT engines, etc. why call an SRT powered car an RT? Not in an way does the scatpack have RT power or RT performance, it’s just dodges way of sticking to hertiage, that’s all 👍🏼
My Scat Pack engine cover says “Powered by SRT” I have line lock, Track Mode, etc, so they can keep the steering wheel and grille SRT emblems.
My does as well thats because its an SRT the only difference with the hellcat is the supercharger take that off and tell me what u have with a 6.2 engine instead of a 6.4
Thank you for embracing the 🐝
You can get the flat bottom steering wheel with the dynamics package also the 6 piston brembos. I have a 2020 scat daytona edition that comes with the leather cloth seats the Mopar intake and 275s. They are all the same shit just different editions.
Key word powered by Srt lol
2020 50th anniversary Challenger T/A 6.4 #6of 70. Has everything 😁
I went from my R/T to my R/T Scatpack and the insurance stayed the same. Works for me.
My man!!!! Legend
That note ain't tho 🤣
@@Knockout360 I appreciate this video. I bought my Scat Pack last week and I've been nervous about switching over my insurance from my 18 Charger R/T!
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@@mothersmucker3927 It will stay the same. It’s an RT with a package.
You know the scat pack was a trim level that was in the 70 and the srt didn’t come out till 2005 that’s why dodge doesn’t Consider the scat pack a SRT. Same with the Daytona package
This is true. But there are other variables to consider...
That’s true to but that’s why the first version of the scat was a RT base,
Our SRT's have Drag settings and wider rear tires stock and Hellcat brakes in the front. That's really the only difference. All Hemi's have Street Racing Technology but if it ain't the full SRT package then they technically don't consider Scats and RT's a SRT. I went to the dealership to look at Scats and I saw what appeared to be a Scat but the prices were different and I asked what was the difference and they didn't even know.
I got the SRT 392. There's literally no difference unless you drag race which I never have.
@@SRT_DREyou're mostly right but Scats always had launch control like the SRT 392 and 275s and 6 pistons became available in late 17 for Scats under dynamics..your dampers (before 19) was the main exclusive thing at that point (not the only but to me the biggest)
Scat's have always been labeled as an R/T, but Scatpack's were never just a base R/T. The modern Scatpack & SRT 392, essential in different ways, replaced the Superbee, which in itself, was listed as an SRT (SRT8 to be exact). They even use similar bee on wheels icons, they just kind of split the name so-to-speak, so there's no SRT Scatpack like there was a SRT Superbee, as the SRT portion was used for the 392 trim. Superbee was also a trim from way back in the day too, before SRT ever existed, but Dodge still called it an SRT when they brought the moniker back, so I don't think it has a lot to do with the fact that, Scatpack was a trim from back then, when SRT didn't exist.
*Insurance worker comes across this video
Well there goes that cover lol
Haha i
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This dudes intro goes hard...
Thank you brotha
That’s a fact I don’t even care much for chargers an dodges but his is RIGHT
Don’t it tho??!? 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Radio DJ lol
SRT's! Permium Seats full leather or Alcantara, Flat bottom steering wheel, Six piston Brembos, 9.5 rims all the way around, 275's all the way around, Billstein suspension, driving modes,and just the swagger.. This is all standard on the SRT. Remember Scat Packs you have to option up to get these things, you can jump in a 2020 Scat and it won't have leather,Nav,etc...
Good point
I have a 2020 Pitch Black WB Scat. I have everything but the navigation and sun roof. I have leather, flat bottom steering wheel, 6 piston brimbo’s in the front and 4 piston in the back, 305’s all the way around. So tell me what am I missing from the SRT?? I know that no one’s wants the Scat to be a SRT but mine says it on the engine. Why would it say SRT if it wasn’t?? I don’t think that would be legal for Dodge to do? I don’t care what people think because it’s a BEAST. Funny I get the guys in the Civic’s that want to race. It’s hilarious. In the beginning it would piss me off but I got used to it.
@@davidwilson5581 scatpacks don’t come with full leather
@ushio
Not sure where you got yours but my 2020 Scat WB has red leather with red alcantara which I believe is also leather. Doesn’t yours or are you one of those know it all’s that doesn’t have one because you don’t know what you’re talking about..
I bought a used challenger scatpack and luckily the previous owner had it fully loaded 😜
When I get my scat, if the engine says powered by SRT, and the dash says SRT when I turn it on. I’m putting a powered by SRT badge on the back lol.
You make a good point
My man exactly!
SRT under the hood and on the dash
@@Knockout360 All facts
Nothing wrong with “SRT powered” badges it’s the ones that say only “SRT” that make it an upbadge
All I care about is that 392 under that hood and that Dodge offers it...and considering that I was going to get a Grand Cherokee SRT, I equipped my Scat identically to it (sans the flat bottom and adaptive dampers, 6 pistons and AWD) with a lower insurance cost quote (even tho a sedan vs SUV insurance have other factors)..worked out in my favor.....its fun as hell too...badges, little parts and interior bits that people can actually change and modify themselves should not be causing division like I've been seeing..some comments people posting isn't accurate either and it shows...
My man exactly I want a big engine and big wheels fuck the rest. 😂
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The SCAT PACK was made to be a “RT” with the 392 motor that’s why when scats were first made the were putting the rt badges on them y. The SRT 392 was made to be just like the hellcat but without the motor. The scats out grew the srt 392 because you could get the same exact engine for significantly less. But now you can even get every option on the scats as you could in a srt 392 which they stopped selling back 2017. I personally feel the 392 is better buy and holds more value. Just something about seeing that SRT on the whip 🔥
That SRT does have appeal but not an extra 5-7k of appeal
@@Knockout360 that’s understandable that scat gone done the same exact thing the srt does
They stopped in “18
@@hellhound6598 I did notice with chargers I seen a handle full of 2018 srt 392s nationwide but for challenger I’ve never seen a 2018 392 isn’t that strange?
@@bwayne_nobatman true i haven't seen a 19 challenger srt either ! i have a 15 srt charger
ig: tweeze_in_a_srt
Dodge been lifting front ends of the ground since the 60s they know what they doing,,its for selling purposes to sell more commercially,,srts and hellcats are more niche,,and yes exactly like you said insurance is also tied into that as well
Exactly . More people own scats than SRTs so they know they can get away with it
I subscribed as soon as he said “Punk ass Subaru, I’m sick of Em too😂😂
My brotha 🤝
I bet you a Subaru will gap whatever you have and don’t fucken lie saying you got a dodge demon
I'm sorry but all dodges are lead sleds that's why they must have so much HP or else they couldn't get moving lmao
lol I have both I still have way more fun in my sti I just got it tuned & it's definitely capable of being faster stock for stock the v8 wins forsure but with tune on the sti the power is always put down on point all around sti wins v8 is a nice highway puller sti is killer on the track & in fucked up weather I enjoy both tho
@@TheDemonicEden alright boy have fun running 14.2 in the quarter all week
When I bought my 2019 Scat Pack. Filling out the insurance through progressive. There were 3 options for the Charger.
Charger v6
Charger v8
Charger SRT Hellcat.
Nice
What's crazy is when you turn on the scatpack 2020 the dash says in big words SRT .
Exactly man 🤦🏽♂️
It also says R/T scatpack in bold letters on the window sticker and challengers come with R/T badges. It can’t be both 🤔
@@themarathoncontinues2289 well My 1320 is a R T but powered by SRT package . The 1320 is just a less expensive Demon And less H P but The rest of it is a Demon
@@CCW-wg8ds so it's an R/T with demon parts. Lol it's still awesome.
@@shisnatz2 sorry Man I don't want to hurt your feelings but that's exactly what the 1320 is I know I own 1 The only difference is the motor the 1320 has 485hp were the Demon had over 800 to 900 hp infact Dodge advertise it as a poor man's demon in fact The 1320 can push more than 485 hp I pushed mine to 525 hp.
I mean sure I guess but when I pop my Daytona 392 hood I know I see “powered by SRT”
Exactly
Lol. I agree !! So does my Daytona 392 . 🧐
Powered by is not it. 392 Daytona is the closest tho
@@OctonaBoyFresh yeah forsure. Odd that an SRT 392 from 2015-17 is quite frankly the exact same car as a Daytona R/T 392
“Punk ass Subaru trying to race me” mean while cuz was prolly just trying to get to work 😂
Nah he wanted the smoke
It didn’t seem like he was trying to race at all lol.
@@Knockout360 I bet you a Subaru would beat your 392 and I’m talking tuned ofc y’all look good but definitely not the fastest on the road
@@zayseeu8337 Yeah but then the head gaskets gone.
@@zayseeu8337 you're joking right...
Does not have the active suspension that the SRT has. Along with the brakes,tire and tuning. Hence why the srt is 'better'
& that’s y they are more to insure...THERES MORE MONEY IN THEM.!!!
2019 Scat Packs and up do. My Scat Pack came with all the features in a Hellcat except the engine.
@@spurgeondotson4998 so it’s basically like a Honda with a si badge that’s made by the Type R team
@@zodiack6.4 i think the srt gots a different transmission
Yes they do. The dynamics paccage.
I don't give a damn what no one says I love my Scat Pack and would buy it all over again.
I love mine for sure!
Don’t listen to the Scatpack deniers, they are nice cars.
I'm glad you love it, and they are cool cars, but you should listen to what Dodge says.
I think learning about all the trim levels is beneficial to respect all trim levels. The R/T was the bees knees back in the day. SRT didn't even exist. SRT is something completely different and should be studied.
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I used to love all the trim levels and still want to, but the Scat Pack owners ruined it for me.... A shame.
SRT definitely existed back then
@@johnusher7352 In the late 60's early 70's? I don't remember SRT back then
@@danielhunsinger8017 yea you right I noticed you were talking about way back then after the fact of me commenting but I couldn’t find the comment to delete it
So my 2020 scatpack with the dynamic package is the closest you can get to a 392 “SRT”
True
392 Daytona is
So my Daytona 392 is not an SRT but is powered by SRT 🤔
Exactly I can’t wrap my head around that either
They have the same engine as an srt. My scat and my friends srt has the same exact engine
@@Knockout360 the only difference is the hellcat has a supercharger, take off that with a 6.2 engine and tell what u got with a 6.4 392
What's even more funny is that my 2018 base model Charger Scatpack is slightly faster than my wifes 2018 loaded Charger SRT from 60 to 120 due to less weight.
My breaks or smaller lighter
Suspension is lighter
Interior is lighter
No sunroof
No adaptive cruise control
Wheels and tires or lighter
But I would still rather drive her car Lol
Great video 👍
It's not just the engine bruh
The differences were the brakes, the suspension, gauges, & the performance pages. The was also the appearance package. The insurance thing is true. The more power the vehicle has, the higher the insurance premiums. Like you said, SRT is a premium. Hence why I got an R/T, & plan to do an engine swap. Insurance companies base things off the VIN.
Exactly bro.. those three letters don’t justify almost 10k extra snd more insurance money. No sir!!!
@@Knockout360 Yeah, it's kinda like a status thing now.
The more power? Srt 392 and scatpack 392 same power so im lost. Atleast my 2018 is the same as the SRT fortunately the owner before me upgraded to 6 piston and put 275s in the front and then 315s in the back
@@kendrick4062 That was a general statement. Not specific to the Scatpack & SRT 392. Point being an R/T cost more to insure than an SXT. The Scat more than the R/T, & so on.
@ItachiTheSuperSaiyan Petty's Garage has a 426-based 448 Stroker that I'm wanting to get. Essentially it's a 426 that's been bored & stroked to 448ci. Just haven't decided if i wanna stay N/A or add a blower.
Keto in mind that if you wanna do the same thing, you'll need to upgrade the rest of your power train first. This means your trans, driveshaft, & axles. Upgrading the diff wouldn't hurt either, & upgrading the brakes is never a bad idea. By this i mean the actual calipers, not just putting stupid cross-drilled rotors which in reality hurt your breaking performance.
For insurance I paid $100 a month for my SCAT Pack since it's wasn't considered a "high performance car" as an R/T.
I bought a hellcat and my insurance jumped up to $270 a month
That’s really not that bad honestly
And the point of this was.... look the bumblebee is a 392 powerplant, minus the compressed air add on that the Hellcat has making it 707hp. But if anyone thinks that a Scatpack does not jump out at anyone as performance is sipping on some “Jim Jones” Kool-Aid. Truth be told the average driver on the road won’t know your car which has kitten on the side, versus a Daytona, GT, SXT, RT, wide body or not. Don’t you get it these cars are a dime for a dozen on the road. Mopar has yet to find out why these auto transmissions keeping going in to “limp mode” out the blue. You are not superior, just because you got approved for a $1200 monthly car note keep it a buck.
Ok makes sense
Was surprised when I went to look at Hellcats, they ended up giving me more than I owed for my SRT 392. Ended up trading it in for a Hellcat. Lower payment and it's a HC? Yes please! Love mopar! So much fun to drive!
Great deal bro
Can I ask how many miles you had on your srt? I'm in the exact same spot and I've been really thinking of doing this exact same thing with my Srt8 challenger.
@@asthecrowflies1201 Sure thing. It had exactly 41,703. Had the paperwork nearby so was easy to check. Never hurts to check! The hellcat is so awesome. Loved the 392 I had, but the HC is on a whole different level.
Srt’s 392 were designed and conceptualized to be limited production run cars. It was dodge’s way of making the owners feel special. Apart from that yes the srt’s have bigger brakes, wheels, performance pages, and flat bottom steering wheel. They also have the adjustable bilstein suspension from factory and a different/more aggressive rear end ratio than the scats. Minor details include the full halogen headlights and foglights. There were also some minor options that were offered only in the 392’s. Idk if it’s worth the extra money for one since I’ve never driven a scat, but I can tell you I love my 392 to death.
And track mode the scats didn't get that until like 19 I think but yes I love my 392 charger as well
your 100% correct , I learned the hard on my last purchase I thought my 4 door sedan would be on the insurance, but that damn badge made the insurance classify it as sports car and my insurance doubled
Sad but true man.. money money money
4 door sedan isn’t how insurance works, (common misconception though) it’s based on what others are doing with the same vehicle. When I was 21 and I bought my 2013 brz my insurance quote was $20 more than a 18 (at that time brand new) C7Z. Now if you know anything about cars it’s a big difference between those vehicles but corvettes are cheap to insure because the majority of those owners are old men who don’t wreck their car (aka no accidents) therefore leading to lowering the cost to insure one for all of us irresponsible vette buyers :)
“Powered by SRT”
Facts
@@Knockout360 beautiful car. Just traded my black 2020 Charger R/T for a Gold Rush 50th anniversary 2020 Challenger 392 T/A number 6 of 70. Fuckin love it!
@@Stoic1976 hm u pay I pay 604 for my 2020 gt it had 0miles 3.8now
@@itzTOP3 58k, My roommate is the finance manager at dealership. Saved me 11k. Plus it’s the 3rd car I’ve bought there
good deal or no?
It’s like a 25-35 dollar a month difference,but over a year it ads up tbh. I just order the new charger redeye so I’m hoping it doesn’t jump to much 🥶
That shit adds up brotha for real
Im jelious, I want a Redeye Charger. You're gonna love that car. Props brotha.
I have a 2020 scatpack daytona edition. The daytona edition comes with 275 tires the leather cloth seats and the Mopar intake. If you want the flat bottom steering wheel you need the dynamics package, that gives you the 6 piston brembos as well, they are all the same shit same motor just different editions.
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The SRT has the magna ride suspension, which does not come with the standard scatpack, only on the wide body in the scatpack line. Brakes can be upgraded on the scatpack with the dynamics package. Also, the srt comes with the ZF90 transmission, which is in the hellcat also. All scatpacks come with the ZF70, which is not rated for as much hp and track mode performance is slightly increased with the ZF90 supposedly.
Is that worth almost 10k over a scat tho?
That SRT 392 has the trans as the other Scats and Daytona. The Hellcat trans was specifically for the Hellcat. Look it up.
What up Knockout 360,I'm new to the channel and I do not own a Mopar product but I am a car guy American Muscle all day. I just wanted to say that this is true and was done years ago in order to keep insurance premiums down,GM, Ford and Mopar have all done this before I started driving.
I'm just happy to have my scatpack after busting my ass for a year
Me and u both bro.. worked hard for two years saving
In 2019 the SRT became exclusive for Hellcat models
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So just scatpacks and hellcats now
This is why I thought Dodge dropped the SRT from the 392/6.4 line of cars. For the Hellcats.
No, just hellcats. Scatpacks are R/T 392s.
@@themarathoncontinues2289 actually they dropped the R/T on the Scat Packs. Its just Scat Pack 392s now.
I can only imagine how fast the Subaru was going to past you; I lost sight of Subaru from the Point of view angle. Great content 💯 , keep em coming 👍🏿👍🏿🇺🇸
Dude was in my rear then just blew by me like an ass. 😂 thank you brotha.. happy new year’s
Nobody noticed his hardwired mirror wired “Uniden R1/R3” radar detector but me 🤣🤣 at 0:05
i noticed. I'm doing the same thing lol.
You are correct Knockout. Insurance company’s see the Scat Pack as an R/T. Scat Packs do not have their own category in insurance systems unlike SXT, R/T and SRT. So, If you give your insurance a challenger/charger scat pack vin number, it will populate in the system as just R/T. Despite the Scat Pack having the larger engine.
Yessir 👍🏾
Yeah their SRT’s just don’t say it but I’m cool with it cause it’s the same power if not a few more on the newer ones.
Exactly same power and look and cheaprr
Is that a R/T badge on your “SRT”? 🤣
@@Knockout360 but the srts are top models now or have a supercharger
@@themarathoncontinues2289 yup
@@themarathoncontinues2289 do you not see what it says under the hood tho
It was really nothing performance wise but it was a higher tier because it had nicer touch ups especially visually. Visually the 392 SRT almost looks identical to a Hellcat. The scat packs back then looked more like a V6 or 5.7. they're just a basic cheap version made to go fast. Like buying a V6 and dropping a 392 in it. Cheap seats versus laguna leather and basic sound system standard too.
I agree . At this juncture most scats come equipped with the nice seats and leather and such
485 hp stock? I'll surely take one and save on that insurance 😊 Great points.
Yessir
Dodge been playing games like this for years, this is just one of many. 2017 above Charger RT's with active exhaust and Durango RT's are both underrated by about 20-25 HP.
True
I can attest to that. I always felt my 18 R/T had more HP than Dodge said it did.
My insurance went up $180 for the whole year for the SRT 392 vs the other Challenger I had before
SRT costs bro
The money was never an issue
It feels good when them srt owners clown a rt and a scat because the rt owners and scats be clowning them v6 owners. So they get a taste of there on medicine😂. Point is someone Is always going to have a faster car.💯
Always bro... gottta respect it all
Srt don't have widebodies and they are out dated so what does that mean?
Bruh 😂😂😂
They are outdated but explain why these widebody scat owners still claim to have a “SRT 392” 🤣🤣
@@themarathoncontinues2289 Because the engine says powered by SRT, and the displacement of the engine is 392 cubic inches. Saying that a scat pack isn't an SRT, is like saying that the TRX and Trackhawk aren't SRT's. They aren't called SRT's, but they literally have a hellcat motor. I don't care what you say, my "non SRT" is faster than your SRT. The scat pack is lighter than the SRT, and is therefore faster. If you think you need that SRT logo on the steering wheel, then by all means. While you spend that extra 10k on that steering wheel, I'll be saving it for a Ram TRX. You'll have an SRT 392. I'll have a scat pack and a Ram TRX. Which seems like a smarter, and better decision?
So this video stumbled into my feed as I am a car enthusiast of ALL vehicles.
First thing is that the insurance reason is not why the name was changed. Insurance companies know exactly what your vehicle is the moment you give them your VIN.
FCA came up with the SRT name as a catch-all for planned performance car names that were originally Plymouths, such as SRT Barracuda. They actually listed the Viper as an SRT branded vehicle for a short time. When the plans for the Barracuda fell through they decided a separate performance brand name wasn’t necessary. This was going to follow the course laid out when they renamed the trucks from Dodge to Ram, so sister dealers like Jeep and Chrysler could carry them in the showroom without the Dodge moniker.
I have a love for Dodge and I think that the 345 and 397 are some amazing engines. The only downfall is the power to weight ratio. the 392 in the charger has a 0-60 of 4.3 and qtr mile of 12.4 which is okay for 485 crank hp. Power to weight ratio, gear ratio, tires, chassis all play a great deal in how a vehicle performs. The car suffers from its weight. Its a great cruiser/bruiser but with the right modifications can be pretty quick. I have had a lot of modded performance vehicles from bmw, chevy, acura, and a built 2013 evo gsr. I can appreciate everything for what they are and what can be done do them and each has their own driving dynamic. my bmw m340 with 385 crank hp does 0-60 in 3.8 and a qtr mile of 12.1 with x drive. I love imports to include germans, japanese, korean etc.
I think that its poor judgement in your videos that you degrade others because you feel that your 392 is some superior legendary vehicle that dominates everything on the road when truth is its a regular line production vehicle with an L chassis from very early 2000s. You dis chevy and ford by saying they dont want that smoke but in reality you'd be the one getting smoked. A camaro ss 1le or mustang gt with performance package both with auto will eat a 392's lunch. For the love of cars please be more respectful of other vehicles on the road and what others drive and be greatful for the nice car you have. Apparently you came from a v6 branded "muscle" car to your first v8 so inherently it will feel and sound fast but in reality there is much more to be learned in your future in the automotive industry. I have auto x and dragged for over 10 years and have a lot of time behind the wheel of many different vehicles. I am a subscriber and generally a huge car enthusiast who enjoys your content and your enthusiasm but remember everyone likes their cars and what they buy for them and to disrespect others for what they drive is no bueno. Stay humble be safe and happy you came out unscathed from your accident.
I know someone that’s 23 with an SRT Challenger and his insurance is thru the roof 😭
It’s probably a hellcat redeye
@@Nicktheguy24 Nah it’s a 2017 SRT 392
@@SSJ_Glohan how much is his insurance per month
@@Nicktheguy24 He said it’s $265 w/State Farm
@@SSJ_Glohan that don’t sound like much
The ones that got ripped were the srt 392s because they have 485 hp like the other 392s....srt 392s should have been given at least 585 hp or 600 hp....who agrees?
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Word! Word! I mean atleast boosted and forged 392. Yeah dawg! Thats a true SRT and with all the big bells and whistles.
Insurance companies are not dumb; 🤔
Not at all. They gonna get paid regardless
They're fiends
Just like Tudor watches they are made by Rolex but don't have the Rolex name on the front dial. Having the "made by Rolex" inscription inside a Tudor watch just doesn't feal the same for some reason even if you know its very much the same.
Sounds very similar to:
"Powered by SRT"
The genuine badge or name sometimes makes a world of a difference for those who care and want the original thing!
Specially when they're discontinued!
That's the reason why it comes with a higher price tag.
Great vid and Scat👍
Thank you brotha
Where do y’all live? $185 for a 392? I live in Tennessee/Nashville area and I pay $110 for mine. I added my daily driver, an 07 Camry to my insurance and I still only pay $135.
I’m in LA, got an SRT 392, but my daily driver is an 09 Camry, total comes out to $210.
It has SRT all over it for it not to be considered an SRT its on the engine and when you start up the vehicle.
But the VIN and the registration doesn’t say SRT
@@scottwoosley8388 its an SRT why would they put it on the vehicle if that's not what it is
@@tappy3422 an F1 isn't a BMW bc it has a BMW engine tho. What the FCA is doing is still pointless tho. Even wit minor differences, they're all still basically the same.
@@AYO_KO well my buyers and dealer sticker says SRT powered by SRT also.
@@tappy3422 nah I get you. Idk why they make the unnecessary distinction. If this insurance thing is true, then I guess that makes sense. Other than that, it just seems unnecessary.
It's a damn scam they even did this with my 3rd gen camaro. When I insured it the price raised $20 a month just because it is an iroc.
They gotta mem that money bro
Very good video. I have a 2014 SRT8 Charger. Back then there was no Scat Pack available. Just SXT, RT and SRT and some special edition variants mixed in. The Super Bee was kinda like a Scat Pack. Has the 6.4 liter engine but downgraded interior, brakes etc.
So maybe it’s the interior???
Dodge basically said everybody dont deserve the SRT badge . If you want it pay for it by getting a hellcat/ redeye, demon and daytona separated from scatpacks now which it should have been . Daytona models always been a exclusive model when represented.
Sad but true
hmmmm food for thought.... "I got that" too.... however the engine is branded SRT....
Definitely is
I love my scat pack emblem tho
I do too honestly not removing it
the SKEET’S truck! subbed when i realized he from the 704 😈😤
Went from a 5.7 to a 21 Hellcat and insurance only jumped up $12 per month. $145 per month total. 500k coverage
I don’t understand why the whole scatpack community cries about their car not being considered a SRT lol who cares? You guys want a SRT but don’t want to pay the money for one. Scatpacks come with the WB and all these new features but are quick to take the bee and R/T badges off like it’s a bad thing to have them on their car for the purpose of fake flexing their car with “SRT” everywhere lol just be happy with the damn car and stop crying about it because there are people looking at your cars wishing it was them.
Facts....some dudes running around with an almost 500HP widebody car with brembo brakes and still not happy...lmao.
Exactly
@@Wins_And_Losses good point bro. Thats crazy.
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SRT is its own brand,The scat came out dodge was selling more scatsThen SRT’s 392s so Dodge Is saving us more money And there making more money Selling more units so they drop the 392 SRT gave the features that the SRT had to the scat pack in 2019 people buy more because of the price and Dodge makes more because they sell more cars that’s how that works,SRT still has all the jeeps though they have the hellcats the red eyes the demons and now the super Stock.Like I said SRT and Dodge Are separate brands,SRT owns Rights to the engine but the rest of the cars are Mopar As well as the parts they will say Mopar Dodge Owens The Mopar name they do not own SRT
You make a good point. Thank you brotha
Facts
I was under the impression that SRT was the name of their internal performance gang, not an stand alone, external entity.
Then again, after -F came along and put their grimy tentacles all over things, I wouldn't be surprised if such a spin of happened
Every model made from the SXT to the Demon or Red eye are modeled correctly. A Scat pack is a Trim level with it's own options. The SRT is a different equipped car. Has nothing to do with insurance. Sounds like people making things up. What you need to do is take a 392 SRT and a Scat pack build, they are not the same. Yes same 392 engine but there are many things that are different. Today you can not get a SRT model that's not a Hellcat. SRT designed cars are only Hellcats now and thats how it is. If you want a SRT , buy a SRT. Don't complain about owning a Scat pack and it's not a SRT, you didn't buy a SRT you got a Scat pack. I don't see the issue here. I do see all these cars are awesome. So love your model for what is it and not for what it is not.
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I got a 2015 R/T with new body and people think I’m a scat 😂
Damn Subie owners always be like that! Can't stand them!
Alway bro.. although I have no idea what power they put down???
@@Knockout360 The STI puts out like 300 horses give or take from the factory. Their advantage though is they are AWD. I think the older ones have an advantage as they're smaller & weigh less than the new ones.
Yeah those subie boys think they fast till a Mitsubishi Evo comes out of nowhere 🤣😂
Just having fun is all.
That “srt powered” emblem shit so lame to me😂😂😂 let a scat be a scat and a cat be a cat, they be putting srt steering wheels on scats and everything, buying old srt seats lmao
All facts 💯💯
Those “SRT scat” people want to fake flex for people that don’t even care honestly 🤣
@@themarathoncontinues2289 ppl always complain about not having the badge and I tell them if they want a srt to buy one😂
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Thats crazy. I was paying $100 a month for my scat and now I pay $101 for my hellcat.
Howwww?
@@Knockout360 I've been with geico for a min. Im 38 too so lol
The Scat is technically a R/T. Dodge did this to represent the original Scat back in 70s which was the Coronet. The real super bee!.. it’s confusing to those who don’t really know too much abt Mopar and or Dodge Challengers and Chargers. Obviously the Scat has a 6.4 392 which you would think it’s a SRT but it’s not, it’s a RT. It’s a RT because of the trim level. The SRTs come with a higher level of options like hellcats. Like the scat only get 4 piston brembos and the SRT gets 6 piston brembos. The 392 gets adaptive suspension and the scat gets bilstein sport suspension.the srts get 275s on all 4 corners and scat gets 245s. Lots of other bells and whistles but the motor is the same!...
This is true
It doesn't matter what your license says I have An CDL go to class once a year for safety class haven't had an accident in over 40years And My insurance in creased about 25 percent just because of The car being The 1320 package And it can be a Race car
Really???
@@Knockout360 yes And I'm in My 60s
@@Knockout360 I really think that FCC changed things because of fuel. Consumption these car's are not getting The mpg they say. And if you are you're driving it like you just got your license or 90 year's old And The government is looking into this in NJ I had to pay 1000$ gas tax
U sound like someone who really wishes they got the SRT🤣🤣
U sound like u live with yo mom in the basement?
@@Knockout360 how u figure? And plus brah I'm 16 so I live wit my parents but ion live in no basement 😂
@@Knockout360 ay fr tho no hate towards u, I love the new body style and the wide bodys , I got the 2013 5.7 and I like to watch charger content cause it's my first car I'm tryna get ideas for mods
I figured this out the hard way when geico upped my insurance when I went from my scat pack to my hellcat
Ok makes sense
As well as the differences as others have mentioned before, before they discontinued the SRT 392 you could not get the dynamic damping suspension with the 3 ride modes in a scat pack. Also the SRT came with 6 piston Brembo brake calipers and the scat pack with 4 piston Brembo calipers. The SRT came with a premium interior and sound system and all the bells and whistles. After they discontinued the SRT 392 all those became options on the scat pack. To get a scat pack specked out like the SRT 392 your gonna pay the same price or more than what the SRT 392 cost.
Ahhh that makes sense
Now a days for this “SRT” reason the SCATS get talk down on more than the V6 and mustangs now
We get no love
Upbadgers are to blame. Sad because the scats are beautiful cars.
Lol I doubt that’s the reason bro.
Y bro?
@@Knockout360 The scat pack is older than SRT. The scat pack name was first used in 1970. The SRT name was first used in I think the 80's. It technically is an SRT, but they want to keep it true to it's heritage, so they still call it an RT. I'd rather have a scat pack than an SRT 392. Who the hell just wants a car called 392? It's either scat pack or hellcat. I think it's funny how all the SRT 392 guys hate the scat pack because it's "not an SRT", but the scat pack is faster because it's lighter. Idiots are mad because they could've got a hellcat for the same price😂.
I live in fla I have a 2021 scatpack I pay $292 monthly. My license is clean and no tickets. You must live in a low populated area Lucky you I like your content Holla
Sounds good, but it’s not true, lol.
Insurance companies aren’t just mommies in suits, they know exactly what engine and how much power each car has.
They didn’t put the SRT badge because they were killing the brand. SRT has disbanded
The video is just an echo chamber for scatpack owners.
Its just powerd by srt
A scatt is ok, and it was ok until I bought my Hellcat, that’s when I understood why that SRT badge is on my wheel. It’s either the best, or it ain’t 🤷🏾♂️
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Clown
@@c.siikz_ Pussy
@@c.siikz_ Slow ass mustang on a profile pic 😂 I’ll blow the corny ass paint off that shit
@@POLITICALLYRICH Someone is a little touchy
“Funk ass Subaru trying to race me”😂😂😂😂😂
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Always disrespectful to me bro. 😂
SRTs are not Scatpack, but all Scatpacks want to be SRTs. LOL
Don’t know why this is even a debate. SRT has a different engine combination, same block, different trans, different brakes, different shocks /suspension, different programming likely better cooling as well. How many more different things need to be different before the Scatpack guys quit pretending they own the same thing? Let it go, you got what you got. If you want an SRT then go buy one.
Ok 👌🏾
Has a lot to do with The suspension And transaxle
What u mean?
@@Knockout360 well The Demon has a full Race suspension which was incorporated into the 1320 And a lot of SRT packages SRT stands for Street race technology which I know you know so do the insurance company's Chrysler doesn't care what you pay for insurance. I look at it this way if you can afford to buy one of these beasts you better be able to afford The insurance And fuel it also has a lot to do with how much insurance you carry I carry a 1/4 million$ policy just on My cars alone
@@CCW-wg8ds stop the cap
@@keniczavala265 What ?
The widebody scatpacks actually has more features than 392 srts'
V8 is pure power. They can keep the super charge 🤷🏽♂️
just subscribed your channel great an concise
Thank you brotha
This is the difference from what I’ve read scat packs are R/T’s with the SRT engine they are built in the Windsor assembly plant in Canada along with all the other FCA vehicles. SRT’s are built in Detroit at the Street Racing Technology plant a completely different assembly line where the chassis are strengthened and built with Street Racing Technologies components. Scat packs have SRT motors and power but they are far from a SRT. SRT’s have special vin numbers as well which is why the insurance is more don’t get me wrong SP’s are the best bang for your buck but they are not a Street Racing and Technology vehicle it’s more than just the engine and brakes it’s the suspension chassis and components etc they are built in two different plants I hope this explains it
Thank you brotha
Thank u bro.. absolutely
@@Knockout360 no thing my man i felt no one was pointing out the actual differences between the two everything i wrote can be fact checked.
Facts.. cause when i put insurance on my srt300.. the rate was sky high as opposed to my old charger sxt. I told the guy it was a luxury vehicle.. he laughed and said.. the vin says its an SRT8 🤦🏾♂️
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Here in Texas the Insurance company put them under sport cars. I try to get a SXT+ they told me $326 no accidents no tickets. When I ask what is the difference and they told me there where no difference in price
Ahhh good point
Upgraded from a Challenger SXT to a Challenger Scat Pack and my insurance jumped up $3 🤣. Im ok with not having a SRT badge on my Scat 👍
That would be interesting to find out...because I have a 2015 SRT392.... my understanding was that the SRT trim was a little more dressier trim but with the bigger brakes... and that the SCATS were a more “raw” muscle car... but it’s weird they only did that for 2015-2018. ....crazy!! Happy New Year bro! 🤙🏾👊🏾
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I have a 2020 wide body hellcat. I pay 98 dollars a month no BS.
live in a good area gotta clean record or something like that?
@@tarriouscarr2503 yessir. Car is registered in Florida in a very safe area. No tickets or accidents. Plus I’m over 30.
Man U are living the dream man!!! Good work
More than that. 😂
@@Knockout360 thanks bruh. I’m with progressive. They even gave me a homeowners discount.
the 392 and hellcat are srt products. the scat pack is a package for the r/t. dodge did this so that more people could have access to a performance vehicle without paying a boatload of money. it’s a similar situation to the srt8s and super bees. happy new year
That makes sense
The difference in insurance from a scatpack to a Hellcat with Geico was The Scatpack was $1668 a year and The Hellcat is $1,993 a year ,But i also have 2 other cars so im sure if i didnt the insurance would be higher if lets say my only car was a Hellcat
But what about the scat to SRT 392 insurance difference
@@Knockout360 That i dont know,but i would say there definetly is a difference just because of those 3 letters
Same here went from a 2018 SXT auto to a 2021 scat manual..insurance only went up $30
As far as insurance is concerned, it's not necessarily that they get accidents or tickets more. It's quite literally because of parts, exactly equivalent to an AMG, S audi, M BMW, V Cadillac, zl1 Chevy, the parts on a hellcat are expensive. A srt 392 and a scat pack will have the same differences. For instance my hellcat front rotors cost 1k a piece, 550 for the pads, that's just parts. The srt 392 doesn't have the same size in the front, I believe they are a brembo 4 piston big brake kit, whereas the hellcat is the six piston. And just goes on from there, 275 tires obviously cost more than 245 tires. The parts for a srt car literally cost more, so they charge more. On top of them costing more, they aren't parts that are used industry wide, meaning there aren't cheaper aftermarket alternatives, all the srt parts come from one place FCA, and they are notoriously bad as a parts supplier. For instance, I had a bearing going out on my supercharger pulley, no big deal, except FCA does not sell any part of the supercharger assembly, including the gasket, as a separate part. Meaning ANYTHING from the gasket up means replacing everything. 7k, my new supercharger assembly had a bad secondary fuel relay, guess what, 7k another brand new entire assembly. These are the reasons a srt car cost more to insure.
This makes perfect sense I agree. Thank you
Best car intro I’ve seen on CZcams I’ve subscribed 🔥
Thank you brotha u the truth man!!!!
@@Knockout360 FACTS
I'm a Mopar Charger 4 door grocery getter. We all the same.
I got a 50th anniversary widebody shaker 392 scat pack. It has all the features of the hell cat , engine is the only difference. Bought it cuz I love the shaker hood! Something they will never put on a hell cat! The shaker hood makes the car look meaner and more old school. The 2020 scatpack is an 392 SRT. They just changed the badging
Nice
I also had a 2016 scatpack shaker in b5 blue. It was definitely not an SRT, only the engine was SRT
I only got the SRT model because they offer leather seats heated and cooled. I had a 2015 lime green scat pack same engine but the amenities were basic that car was all engine and nothing else but my SRT392 checked all the boxes for me and I love it.
Nice 👍🏾
Not true! Cause when the insurance company runs your vin number. It comes showing the vehicle equipped with a 392 which shots your insurance up. I know because I have all three, the Hellcat, SRT, and ScatPack
That makes sense
Dude my insurance premium went down coming from the charger RT 5.7 to a 392 Daytona I was shocked I thought it was gna go up but it went down from 160$ to 120$ monthly for the 392 Daytona
“Double Edged Sword” cool video keep up the good content
Lol your right man. Thanks brotha
7:05 "look at this Subaru trying to race me" says the one hogging the left lane. Bros just tryna pass lmao
Bro I literally made a video talking about this. Its definitely weird my 50th anniversary dodge challenger widebody scatpack shaker had all the srt badges on the engine when it comes on ect then the grille has a rt badge as simple as it is it drove me nuts. But its all good I bought a 2020 widebody hellcat. Good video bro bro.
🤝 exactly bro
Just found you channel love the content. New subscriber 👍👍👍👍
Thank you brotha
I judge whether a car is an SRT or not based on the performance. If the car has an SRT engineered engine, then it’s an SRT. After all, SRT stands for street racing technology. So it would make sense that if the engine, transmission, and performance is engineered by SRT, then it’s an SRT. The reason dodge calls scatpacks RTs is cause in the 70s the old scatpacks were originally SRT’s. And since dodge was reviving the scatpack with the same looks and whatnot it used to have, they might as well stick to the same heritage by calling it an RT. That’s just my take on it 🤷♂️
I agree
@@Knockout360 right? Dodge has always been badging their cars based off the engine. RTs have RT engines, SRTs have SRT engines, etc. why call an SRT powered car an RT? Not in an way does the scatpack have RT power or RT performance, it’s just dodges way of sticking to hertiage, that’s all 👍🏼