All About Tipis and the Nomadics Tipi
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Can't say enough good things about this video. I have been looking at Tipis lately and wondering if they were really viable for a regular "city" guy with an average amount of time spent camping, fishing, and hunting each year . This was great. I hope you share more info/videos of your experiences as time goes by. Where do you get your poles, helpful hints Etc. Thanks.
shellmaker10 you can order them. But mine were harvested with a permit from the forest service. Just like firewood. Get a permit and go for it. I'll be making a how too video next with this tipi. It will show the processing of the poles.
shellmaker10 Please feel free to share this video. Thanks!
@@TJackSurvival have you done the video of the poles I'm curious on that
@@chrisandersen8349 I started filming that then ended up just working for a few months when I could on stripping the bark. The easy way to deal with it is this. Let the green ones soak in water, then use a draw knife and it slides the bark right off. Otherwise, if you get almost dead ones you can use a very abrasive sanding disk and sand the outer layer off. Those are the two most effective ways I've seen so far. I'll relook over my footage and see if it makes a viable video and post if so. Thanks for reminding me.
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We bought a Nomadics tipi in 1979, cut, peeled and cured our poles, and lived in it for 2 years at 6500 feet above sea level(Colorado). One of the best experiences I've ever had! We bought the flame retardant and rot resistant cover and never regretted it. Nomadic is QUALITY construction! Enjoy!
That is awesome. I put them in the absolute top of tipi's that I've seen. They are absolute quality.
Back in 1991, we met a elderly gentleman who made tipis. He had one set up on his place that was a 35 ft tipi. He put us up in it, as were somewhat homeless at the time. It was AWESOME!!!! He had a wood stove set up in it, a kitchen area, it was large enough, we had a queen size bed, 2 sets of military bunkbeds, a wood pile , with a compost toilet behind it. We lined the inside with blankets, because it was snowing and freezing weather (November in the mountains of Idaho),,, yet we never got cold! There are so many days I really miss staying and living in that tipi!
See to me that just sounds like heaven. I am from Idaho as well so biased. LOL, Thanks for the comment.
Oh it was heaven! It was so hard leaving there! :( LOL! The gentleman who made it, was also a retired sail maker. He moved to Indiana, and from there we lost touch. I don't know if he is even still alive. Thank you for all you share with everyone.
RainbowRoseConnie thanks! Sounds like you need a tipi.
I sure agree! Oh how I wish I could afford one too!!! I would probably move out into it! LOL! Neighbors would think me strange, but my kids would just think "that's Mom! " and probably shake their heads. lol!
Very cool. I have an 18' panther primitive.
Quick tip.
Once I got mine erected and everything perfect I created what I call a story rope. Find dead center and place a stake in the ground. Place a looped rope over stake then stretch rope out to the outside of a pole and mark it by tying a stake in that mark. Now next time you need to set up do this first dragging stake in a radius marking in the soil exactly where pole will set. I can now set up in under twenty minutes with minimal adjusting. Just thought I'd share that
Oh that's a smart idea. I'm steeling it. Sometimes I nail it, sometimes I struggle to get it set up. This is a Sioux tipi so it leans to one side But I cluld easily take two measurements for future use. Thanks for the tip!
Thank you Tyler for how hard you work to share your journey toward a more primitive lifestyle. Your videos inspire me. I also like how you blend the modern with the old where it makes sense to do so.
Hey I appreciate your insight. Thank you for watching.
There is the Ojibwe Horse which was proved to be a native species of horse that is very small and furry, it lives in the northern boreal forests, they are critically endangered 4 were found, a few decades ago and now there are around 250, most natives wouldn't have had this horse since it lived in the northern areas of north America.
That’s awesomeness to know
Great video! Thanks very much for sharing the link to this. :)
Hey, thanks for watching. I really enjoyed making this one.
Soon I am going to buy a 12 tipi . I'm excited about it .
I live offgrid in my cabin . So simi primitive liveing is my lifestyle .
Awesomeness! Congratulations and good luck
This is a very good historical primer, thank you so much for exploring this. I learned a great deal :D. I would love to see you visit Jas Townsend, hes a very accomplished historian.
Where does he live? Is it back east?
Wrapped it in the wrong direction, always wrap the poles in a clockwise direction, the traditional way
The sami shelter you're referring to is called gamme/goahti (at least in Norwegian, probably has several sami names according to the region. The sami also have a "teepee" called lavvo. It's almost identical to a teepee, but doesn't have the iconic smoke flaps and is a lower and wider cone shape than the teepee. It's still used by reindeer herders btw, and it's definitely possible to have a fire going inside 😉
great video brother, been awhile since I did a youtube video marathon.
the inuit oil lamps you are refering to are called kudliks they use whale blubber melted down it burns for a very long time and actually puts off enough heat to successfully heat a 2 person igloo shelter
i have one but only use it as a decorative piece
I'd love one for referencing and to show people. But I'd also love the experience with it because that makes it worth more personally.
Hello MacKinnon
I loved this video Tyler! Grand work!
thetopicala thank you my good man.
Cool stuff Tyler. There is just something right about how they feel.
Nate
Ya I agree. You just want to nap and stay in them when they are up.
I bought an 18' tipi from Nomadics about a couple years ago. It was one of the best purchases I have made in the last 10 years. Unfortunately, I have not put it up yet, because I have no way of transporting the poles with ease. I will have to get creative as I do not have a camper or mobile home that would be more conducive to carrying the poles. But seeing this, I am soooo anxious to put mine up. They're so beautiful.
@@TJackSurvival Thanks for the idea of what I could use to transport them. I really do want to use it this coming summer. I also want to get some good practice in for learning how to actually put it up. So, I will get this suggestion researched and get it moving. If you're where its cold, stay warm!
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love it.
but my culture is 100s of thousands of years old, and more.
we lived in these for a long time.
we have 2 in our yard here in AK. It is so cool to sleep in 1.
Thank you for doing something to keep my culture alive.
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Samuel thanks for watching. I love Tipi's, because bottom line they just work. They stay dry and warm with a good internal fire and that's really hard to beat. I am 1/16th Paiute from the Ute tribe. It's a very small part of my ancestry but their none the less. Again thanks for the comment and please share. Respectfully, me.
hundreds of thousands 😄, and do you think amerindians are the only ones using tipis for thousands of years??? 😄 just check out central asia, scandinavia, where your ancestors root from 😉 peace 🙏
TJack Survival nobody else excuses themselves of using western technology, you're wise, no need to tender silly emotional people! great job Jack!
@@buteos8632 Buteos be respectful, he is simply thanking for the preservation of his culture because that is the culture being shown in the video! He is not claiming to be the inventor of the tipi.
May your culture live thousands of years more, Sam!
Rodrigo Floyd I have no problem with appretiating someone else's kindness, I don't think that saying his people have been doing it for 100's, a proved false statement, is "just" thanking him...that would have been "thank you for helping preserving my culture", culture of which they only started doing when the last europeans revisited NA, because before that they were farming, not hunting and gathering! it's a lifestyle with a few hundreds of years not hundreds of thousands, that's just wrong...or delusional. I've been seeing a lot of wrong cultural promotion against europeans and descendants that's why now I always take a stand, not one lie will pass!!! without being rude 😉
Great presentation!
What an awesome video Loved every minute of it
Thank you I appreciate that. They’re an amazing company
Saami live in Norway and Sweden as well as Finland and northwest Russia. Traditonally the tents (lavvu) and huts (goahti) actually did have open fires but these days little wood stoves are more common.
I'm a fan of all things Saami.
a great video - here is a question: it's raining and it's cold...you close the flaps to keep out the rain - how do you keep warm?
Fire, and the rising heat pushes the rain out the flap. You can close the flap though and direct it down wind if needed.
great great informative vid. thx for sharing
Hey, thank you for watching.
How to clean them ? I have a 18 ft tall
competition drives to research and development, human development!!! good history lesson 😉 thanks. 2 things to be noted, there are remains of ancient west europeans that apparently suffered their own amerindian encroachment, just like in south america, (history repeating itself 😉), the other is that the samis did have a stove and off course cooked inside their lavvus, just imagine the last mini ice age 300 years ago! also those permanent shelters are common to all peoples from the early ages of holocene with farming from Portugal to Nepal, Japan, Norway and all in between, check it up, awesome Indo-Europeans!!!
Buteos excellent
hi,i just watched the video it's great,i alway's wanted to make a tipi,but i think the poles are too big to transport around,so i came up with the idea of making a reproduction of the scottish bow tent,the bow tent was used in scotland since 1745 after the battle of culloden and maybe before that,however after the clans were broken up, families lived in these tents on the outskirts of towns,selling their wares to the town's folk,and were still being used right up to the 1960s,it's interesting how so many cultures used a wooden poled frame and cover to protect them from the weather
That sounds smart. The guys and lady's at Nomadics Tips's know a LOT about tips. If you have an idea call them. They can probably sell you the shell and you can adapt it however you like. Otherwise the good plan is to get a trailer or to get a rack on your vehicle for the poles. I harvested them on my own and skinned them and added them to my tipi. It is rewarding to do it yourself.
Any tips on managing poles on the move? My main reserve with tipis is collecting the poles and lugging them around.
That's a hard one. I just bought a trailer. But some people get a rack in the back of a truck that comes over the cab of the truck. Or you can get a front hitch with a pole that goes up and has a basket to hold the. Options exist but that is the hard part of the tipi. Once the poles are dry they are deceptively light. I was shocked at that.
Cut them in half , and make a sheet metal rap at the cut male and female like a fishing rod
They are good for your soul..... Very nice video!
Thank you and I agree.
good video and information , thanks ...Creator bless...doug
Hey Doug, thanks for watching, I'm glad it was helpful.
Thanks to you both for the Vid, got me motivated to set mine up. been a few years. need to get some good stakes, don't have original. Thanks again
Mark Weaver tipi.com has all that. Tell them hello from me. They are great people
Nice video. Thank you.
Thank you. I really had a lot of fun making this one.
Drone cameras are so GREAT! I live the life, too, but $2,000?!! Even a little one is $1010!!
Ya seriously man they cost a lot.
Great video!!
Thanks, Josh.
I learned so much from this video. I have a Crow tipi I'll be setting up and all the information in this video made so much sense and dispelled a lot of fixed ideas you see in books. Thanks for this one - I bookmarked it for reference and subscribed too ;>)
Afterburner I’m happy you liked it. I put a lot of work into it. Thanks
I have seen streamers on the poles for wind direction
Nomadics is the co.I am going o buy from.
What do you think about using chain link fence top rails for the poles?
They are 20 ft long have a bell end so you can cut in half and reassemble for easy storage
cut short wood lodge pole ends , glue and screw to the top rail to look traditional and break down for ease of transport.
Also ,with the poles I think you could put a hammock up in there
the ground can get pretty hard
Or just cut the poles and use a peace of tubing or pipe to resemble, Not as strong thou.
I think it's your tipi and you can do what you want, but steel gets crazy heavy. Lodgepole pine is shockingly light and that's my only concern for you is weight. But if you do get one of these tipis tell Nicole over at Nomadics hi from me, and send me a picture of your experiment I'd be curious as to how it turns out. I'm on Facebook with the same name. TJack Survival. Good luck with your experiment. I hope it turns out well.
What is gun fire for? Doesnt seem peaceful there. Dogs and other animals dont like that. I love this woman and what she espounds on. Very interesting. Always wanted to have a tepee. Ill have to find out more
They were having a flint lock competition. That’s super peaceful to me and the dogs get used to it really quick. A non issue to me. Kinda like hearing a car drive by. It happens
Rain doesn’t come in at the peak?
Not regularly no, especially if their’s a fire rippen hot in it. You might get a little water but not much. You can also close the flaps.
Most tribes that were pushed out from the woodlands and onto the plains were pushed out by indian tribes who had guns not the whites.
alot of her information about indian traditions are incorrect. she needs to convers with real first nation elder.
That information changes substantially from elder to elder.
the beginning of this looked like the park in oshkosh
It was at Rabbitstick in Rexburg Idaho
@@TJackSurvival ahh ok it looks cool there!
It would have been nice if this were subtitled. I've lived a spell in a tipi. Being deaf, I'm attuned to compensating
visually.but spoken feed back might be better. Use native sign language on the next one.
Sorry about that, let me see if I can fix that
No worry.@@TJackSurvival
Quick tip never shit to close to your teepee. And always have TP for your bunghole
I'm a Barney too. :-)
Barney Is good people
I wonder if this is a disgace to the tribes that used tipis
I asked them. There cool with it
The “white people” did not push those tribes out! The other Indians did!
That’s right! Bugs me when people say that.
Love this type of info
Did you use a drone to get the high shots? great job in the interview by the way! Drifter
Either a drone or an Osmo hand held camera that looks like a low flying drone. Thanks for watching bud!
I want my effing whistle... I'm native American but I don't have a whistle ????
Then you need to make it!!!
Can u build a fire if it is raining ? How do u keep the fire from the rain?
In a tipi yes. If you build a fire first the high pressure of the inside of the Tipi forces water out the smoke flap. With no fire, you can fold over the smoke flap and be dry. Also, you can move the smoke flaps around so that they direct smoke out and keep water out as well. There are a few ways to do it, but I have a problem explaining and not showing it so in short yes you can.
How do you travel with the poles being so long?
Keegan Grandy put them on a trailer or an overhead rack on your vehicle
I've wanted one since I was in high school- A leather on for a permanent place- I don't know anymore to contact about this-??
Debby Utz call the people at Tipi.com listed above. They can help or know people who can help you.
Debby Utz call them here. 541-389-3980 tell them I said hello. I can’t speak highly enough about them.
@@TJackSurvival Wow thank you so very much- THANK YOU ♥️🙏
Pretty sound. What instrument ?
Victoria Bautista that’s a native Flute
love the video....REALLY want to know where the guy got the hide tipi and how much was it
He’s a trapper for the state and he made it. Contact www.tipi.com as they may have a way to get full skin tipis
I love tipis
You should love this video then. Please share as well.
wish it would say how much a tee pee cost in American money
That number changes so I didn’t put it in the video. Go to tipi dot com and it will have prices.
@@TJackSurvival thanks jack
15:49 I think the word you were looking for was a yurt
Close but no. Yurts came from a different continent (Mongolian step if I recall correctly) and had a lattice inside of them with a round cone on top, and were covered in felt. Close but still very different from a Yurt.
Yes they are from Mongolia. It's just that you said it reminded you of an arch shape structure, whereas the Saami structures are more pointed like a tipi as you mentioned at first
I was thinking of a Native skin covered wiki. Thanks for the comments!
Aiferapple actually the Sami also apply an arch within to widthen the lavvu
European settlement did not push the Sioux and their relatives out of the upper mid west, the Cree nation did.
Well true. But who pushed the Cree?
@@TJackSurvival The reality is that inter tribal competition and warfare were constantly changing the geographic distribution of all tribes. This was the norm for centuries before European presence in North America.
mikewyd53 Exactly
Who is shooting rabbits in the background 🐰
More natives must be teaching about theirs history... they could better talk about their ancestors and culture.
How is this not my ancestry and culture or yours? All you have to do is go further back in time and it literally becomes the ancestry and culture of every human on the earth. Don't get hung up on recent history. These skills belong to all of us, and not just the tribes.
that wasicu skin burns easy ehh😂
Great video, but wondering how much trouble Native Indians or other people have or had with the snake crawling under and in tee pee ❓
Man, you'd have to ask. I've never had it happen and I don't know anyone who has.
On the inside, there's a liner going half way up. With a lip held down with little logs. Typically excess fire wood. So there's no gaps into the structure. The inside liner also
Directs airflow up and out. Between the outside and inside liner. Instead of smoke being cyclonic inside. It's pretty cool.
Indians were pushed out onto the plains by other Indian tribes. Indians warred against each other long before the white man appeared. Tell the whole truth!
Were there other Indians on the plains before that? I'm surprised they adapted so quickly.
what is odd is that it is men talking about this and it was women that made and erected the lodges.
How is that odd? Also, did you watch the whole video and see where we chat about that specific topic in the back half of the video?
Strange.I only see the white people around, It is good to be interested in native culture and it would be even better if the white people were interested to learnin native culture in the beginning when they first met the native people. I bilive today's life would be much different and better..
Primitive skills are skills taught by everyone's ancestors, including White people. Primitive means first, so it is literally translated as first peoples skills, whether those were native Americans, native Europeans, native Africans , native Australians, or native Asians, we as humans all at one point practiced some variation of primitive skills. Having said this if you look close it's not only white people. The best example is right in the intro where Kiliii is showing how to build his ancestor's primitive skin boats. Fortunately what you look like isn't a prerequisite or even a concern at this gathering. Only what you know and what you want to learn counts. Lastly yes it is very unfortunate that all settlers in North America to include the "White people" had violent altercations with the native people of the US. Fortunately, the "White people" of Australia figured it out before it was too late and now we have stories and knowledge that would otherwise have been lost. Also, fortunatly some knowledge wasn't lost thanks to some "White people" saving the knowledge as is shown in one of many examples in a book called Ishi in two worlds. I hope to see you at the next gathering.
Good information, but you interrupt too often. It sounds like you do it to be helpful, but it doesn't always come across that way.
Agreed, that’s something I’m always working on.
Awesome video. Would be cool to see some First Nations people.
They are there. A lot of them are really quiet. I'll make it a point to make sure more of them are in the video next time once Covid blows over and we can do this stuff again.
Great video. Hate the gunshots though living in South Africa you would think we are use to it by now. Only difference is gunshots here means death!
Sorry you live in a place like that.
Quit interrupting her and let her talk!
I'm working on it.
Y'all really think a culture is things huh?
I think you’re going to have to try again with that question so it makes sense.
@@TJackSurvival It was rhetorical buddy, and of course you don't get it
@@garyindiana2127 is ok. English isn’t everyone’s first language
@@TJackSurvival and wit not everyone's forte
You do know that putting up a tepee is women's work? LOL
I like your video tho , good work
And the only Indians in the US are from INDIA
I've heard that's the case. It's finding women that actually know how that's hard. Also, I'm related to some BlackFoot that would not be down with you not calling them Indians. Just sayen.
Agreed
Naive Americans didnt call themselves INDIANS before the white man arrived
They were known by there tribe, not by the fact that Columbis was lost and thinking he had landed it INDIA called the native peoples Indians
And it stuck because it made us sound like the FOREIGNERS.
But we being the indigenous peoples then,,,
This must be the UNITED STATS OF INDIA ???
Just saying
My cousin's Blackfoot. You know you're not telling me anything I don't already know. LOL
Not indians! Natives they called themself.
Not all of them.
Many of my closest relatives and great great ancestors are natives/Indians. I guaranteed the OG natives don't get their panties in a bunch over stuff like that. Some of the newest generation does but that too should be looked at in context. To be exact they all mostly prefer to be called by their tribal name.
I call myself Jon me or I. I never really have to identify my race. If I do it depends on whom I'm talking to. To most though. It's just Jon. Indigenous. Native. Indian. Skin. Lakota. Rosebudder. Sicangu Lakota Oyata. Mostly just pc with those who are rude. Jon is fine tho. I'm Jon.