Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War 2 - Faction Wars 2023 | Space Marines vs Eldar #3
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"Oh here's a lascannon..."
*Immediately gets lynched by a mob of Banshees*
Those first two engagements were just too much to recover from for the space marines.
And all the other engagements
Thanks for spoiling the video...
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@@D3athShade don't read comments first?
What a game, the eldar players played their game of the year, they sweated so much in here, barely losing units and constantly doing pressure, even then the space marines where able to regain momentum after so many losses, dont know what to say, the eldar played their hearth out in here and space marines where still have to make a comeback, though in the end the eldar did win with a full army, still it was needed all that army to win. GG
Eaglered space marine did the best for the blue team imo, while the eldar actually all did pretty good, early on was not confident wit the double rangers.
I don't know what it says about the matchup that even with this disastrous start for SM they still managed to play an actual game. Not sure if any other army could have recovered so much. It was still pretty one sided, but that one land raider defying death for so long was sick.
Watching two T1 ranged units beat a T3 Melee squad IN melee is just depressing.
More like two fully upgraded T1 ranged units barely surviving stock T3 melee squad.
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Stock?
You can't get upgrades for a Seer council. That is them at their best.
seeing the turret getting stopped from being built was a relief
Eldar is the only faction that can easily take out already built TM turret in T1. Choose Warlock buy Immolator the end. TM + 1 scout can barely keep up with repair and it can easily be countered by a single Ranger Kinetic Pulse or a single fof grenade from a Guardian.
Another day another stupidly teleporting Terminator.
Another great one for sure, Keep em coming!
Eldar can really ride early wins to secure the lategame!
Need some matching done really. Having new players matched on each team at minimum needs to he done
I could hear Princes of the Universe playing throughout this match.
Those Tacs got something done.
25 minutes? Who’s gonna get stomped? Will the Eldar go for a quick kill, or will the Space Marines stomp the Space Elves?
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Very surprised SM lost as many times as Chaos. They have way more faction synergy than Chaos. Maybe more people play SM in general I suppose.
@@King91OM Some nerfs were applied after 2015 especially on Drop Pod global. This affected winrate. Before 2015 and on 2015, SM, Chaos and IG had their prime times in 1v1. After that, they were all severly nerfed but rightfully so for 1v1 reasons. This made them lose their edges in FW as well.
@@impregnable-retributioneli1530, understandable when 1v1 is more of a concern. Do wish that Chaos can have more synergy with each other. Wondering is it possible to have more spells that affect allies or worship that stacks.
@@King91OM Actually, SM, Nidz, Chaos and Eldar are all supposed to receive some extra units as a big project in the future like that patch where we added a bunch of units to IG and Orks. Would be good if you can share some new unit ideas (Dis) at (cord). The (li) to (nk) the place is in the video description. We got a channel that is dedicated to new suggestions.
I have an idea for Eldar. I think seer council should get a unit ability besides fleet of foot. Maybe destructor like the warlock. @@impregnable-retributioneli1530
I'm barely even servicable at this game, never really been good at this kind of game but i honestly fund myself wondering why none of the marines got a whirlwind
2x banshee with teleport, dead ww in 2 seconds
Farseer can plant gate without having to get an actual unit there for vision. Farsight is cheap and can reveal any part of the map. Farseer gate has an ability to clock and speed buff units around it which results in sneak gate -> mass invisible speed buffed Fire Dragons and their supports. This + mass teleport from WSE is death sentence for WW. If someone really wanna kill it in T3, FS timenfield or Warp Spider Haywire into Eldritch will do.
@impregnable-retributioneli1530 you make it sound like the marines literally could not do anything to counter pretty much any of the eldar stuff. Overlapping weapon teams and banshees stopped the assault marines while also chewing up tacs and scouts. I suppose the only thing that could of worked would have been dreadnoughts but as you say, it would be easy to get rid of them as well
@@hammer1349 there are countless 3v3 matches on this very channel that display how the SM trounce the Eldar.
At equal player skill level SM>Eldar in 3v3 as their global and tier 3 scale better. What you saw here is a massive differential of skill level between the 2 teams. Re-watch and count how many times they sent their hero unsupported to die, how many times they built units and send them to rally point and forgot about them, or send them to cap a point and forgot about them. Played well, eldar are deadly, so are space marines.
@@hammer1349 Sorry if I worded things wrong to sound that way. What I meant is WW is not the answer at all. I will be frankly honest here. Eldar is the best faction for taking out vehicle type artillery which are WW and Mantis. These two are slow, have low hp and cannot retreat. Against high level Eldars, you literally cannot keep them alive. If there is an Eldar in the other team and those two units are alive, that means Eldar player is not doing what the faction is supposed to do for the team.
However, this does not mean SM cannot win against Eldar. I hosted faction wars over 6 years and produced over 200 FW replays casted on this channel. The match up is slightly in Eldar favor like 5.5 vs 4.5 winrate. I can tell you this. SM does not need WW to win vs Eldar. This is what I am saying not that SM cannot do anything in this match up.
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wish the 30 power requirement for Devastators could be cheaper. Those Banshees were so effective in mass retreat
The SM players must not play them much. Alot of misplays. Eldar played as eldar should. Hard hit and runs bleeding the opposition
Super noob sm. Zero control unit
you need to get players that know how to play. this was embarrassing to watch
The channel owner receives replays and cast them. He doesn't organize these matches himself. Sometimes some random low skill guys send them. Not much you can do about the quality as omitting all such replays will mean no or only a handful of FW at all which Indrid can't risk as FWs are one of major source of viewer count. Most viewers don't care about skill level as long as the vid is long and there are a lot of carnage.
"But, but, but Eldar are terrible in T-3. They need a buff!"
You are right. Below old cast is what a truly high level Eldar team is capable of against high level nidz who are the best FW faction by records. This is back when I used to host regular FW events with high and mid level players filled to the brim for every single game and hosted over 10 lobbies full of players over 10 hours FW event. As such, it is a good representation of good skills not some random ragtag match of 6 players of varied skills.
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Also, nidz were nerfed since then. What you see in that video is prime time nidz unnerfed.
They are relative to the SM yes. The players on red team were just far more good with their micro than sm who kept blundering about and losing squads needlessly
Did you notice the SM get so far behind that Eldar had T3 units out when SM were barely in T2 because one SM player was AFK at the start and another lagged to lose upgraded units and commander in their very first engage?
Then followed up with more losses by the other player for no reason?
Did you see how fucked the SM were from the very start but Eldar, who only lost a single guardian unit per player until later in the game, co ordinated well, had varied army comps, and with control and resources of the entire map, still struggled to close out the game?
Their T3 melee squad could not beat 2 T1 ranged squads. They needed 3 anti vehicle nukes to kill 1 vehicle. They needed an entire army teleported onto one unit of Terminators on 20% health and a 30 second chase almost to base to kill the terminators. Or how even with perfectly timed kinetic pulses to set up pushes, or isolated assault marine units jumping onto other targets the high level fully upgraded banshees still struggled.
Eldar all played better, SM players started lagging or AFK, Eldar had 75% of the map for 90% of the game and it still took everything for them to win.
Eldar are terrible in T3, especially in 3v3.
@@LightriverArt No they are not bad in T3 in 3v3. Eldar is a vital component for any 3s team. All of that you mention about Eldar doesn't matter when other factions are covering for those weaknesses. They are bad in Faction War vs SM match up as an isolated case even if we consider all of your points to be valid. People need to stop generalizing based on one game in FW for how factions are in teamgames. 2v2, 3v3 and FW all are greatly different. 99% of patch notes are for 1v1 and those changes screw up established meta in teamgames in an unpredictable way. There is no way to guage anything in this game using few isolated replays involving skill wise random group of people casted in Indrid cast.
@@impregnable-retributioneli1530 I know FW games are not necessarily the most balanced, all sorts of players will play together, some will have comms while others wont. But in almost every case in the past 6 months Eldar has been struggling.
Some things that happened in this game demonstrate to me that Eldar really could do with a couple of targeted buffs, outside of the context of it being 3 of them instead of a varied team.
Suppose it was an okay low game given both sides were full of weak players. And no, easnt any lag - just an excuse by Fritz I call BS. 3 Storms for 1 LRR? This is where you hit with wraithguard/prisms/lances etc to kill it with 1 storm, 2 if youre unlucky or 3 if you're somebody playing in this video. Not impressed?
Just pathetic how tanky eldar are, and way over tuned abilites
Tanky Eldar? Can you refer me to your drug dealer? He seems like a great guy!
Your right. It shouldn't take two Tac units to beat Seer Council in melee. It should be only one unit needed.
Very sloppy for the marines