I'm just waiting for Casio to come out with a couple of heavy hitters with gliding hands like that. The benefit of solar charging, perhaps multiband atomic time with a classy or sporty look and a sweeping hand rather than a ticking one.
They do make some of the best quartz movements out there in my opinion. I'm not a fan of quartz and my latest addition was a GS quartz first and only to the collection so far
“When it comes to its dive watches, Seiko credibility still has a long way to go.” Considering Seiko pretty much wrote ISO6425, considering it invented a 1000 metre diver without an HEV in the early seventies, considering its entry level Turtle and Samurai can easily give a Submariner a run for its money functionally, I beg to disagree that it’s credibility is in doubt. Maybe it’s panache isn’t there yet, but Seiko’s reputation was made by its inexpensive but indestructible dive watches for the last forty years. **i paused video at this quote to write the above comment, then saw that Mr Hands actually mentioned most of those points. Apologies if I come across as ignorant.
@@dbiwatches1891 I had a 43.5 PO and got rid of it because of it's bulk on my 6.75" wrist. Got the 39.5 a few months ago and it's a fantastic watch. You can't go wrong
The black bezel/dial is is even nicer with the added contrast. Honestly the design and execution of the case and lugs on Omegas is much more pleasing compared to the Deepsea or the Sub. And this comes from someone who has both endlessly competing brands.
GS is really working their pricing upward as their popularity has grown. I have an SGBH255, which uses the same case as this one, but with the Hi-Beat movement and a more interesting textured dial. Even though it is huge, it wears really easily due to it being Ti.
The finish of GS turns Rolex into a childs plaything. I have both, and both have their place. But there is just no going around the incredible details of a grand seiko. Which is something that will never be faked as convincingly as some Rolexes are
I bought the GS... and I haven’t taken it off since I did. It really is quite stunning in person. Much more subtle in a E63s Estate sort of way. The clasp is definitely the weak point especially compared to my Rolex and Panerai but the band makes up for it. The interesting part about the clasp though, is it’s dive suit adjustability on the fly that also makes one get over the design..function over form for sure. I’m use to wearing a Marine Master SBDX014 so I’m probably the wrong one to ask as far as size but it really wears nicely. I’m not sure about the negative comments about the dial....in person I assure you that it really is fabulous. You find yourself looking at it as your driving with the sun hitting it and your hand is at the top of the wheel. The polishing and the ceramic bezel continue to make me feel that it is worth what I paid for the watch... sounds kind of weird to say for an $11K watch (the most I’ve ever spent on a time piece), but it’s true.
Sorry to resurrect your years old comment but as the price of these is so attractive at the moment I’ve worked up a bit of interest. I’ve got an MM300 that I love the size of - how does the fit compare between the two for you? TIA
@@d.b.2181 It's a GMT, and has the looks of a GMT. Everyone is after a reliable, every day 40mm GS alternative to the Sub, Seamaster and Tudor BB. A mini SBGA029 would be perfect, hell - call it a ladies if you want to safeguard your design identity of having gigantic watches. Just give us a normal diver, in a normal size, with the killer spring drive movement!
That Grand Seiko’s Spring Drive sweeping seconds is unparalleled in the industry, and is the only unadulterated faithful representation of the passage of time which is in a continuous uninterruptible movement. Simply mesmerising.
You’re the bloke who used to say “ it’s a good day when watch finder releases a video”. Do you do this across many channels you sub to? What’s your motivation? I am intrigued to understand your motive. If you’re honest enough to answer of course.
@@pintthereof4598 just adding comments for the channel hoping it benefits them monetize the channel if possible or something. I dont know how it works. And they make great videos.
chinchinche I don’t have one. Used to have a sea master but found it too heavy sitting at a desk all day so got rid of it. Hope to one day have a royal oak, hulk, Pepsi or if I dared to dream an ALS Saxonia moon phase. You got some watches?
Way ahead in technology, sure. But in sales, Rolex is still the king. Everyone and their dad want a submariner, for good reason. I'm speaking as someone who's lucky enough to own all 3 (Rolex, Omega, GS). Personally, my GS gets the most wrist time.
@@robertnorris8367 yes, the brand is extremely valuable and they have been incredibly good at marketing. But as a watch enthusiast, I can appreciate the simplicity and quality of a submariner. Rolex still produces amazing, high quality, made in house, watches. And guess what, the watch that was passed down to me from my grandpa is a Rolex and I hope I will pass it down (as well as my other pieces) to my children. That Rolex has never been serviced in 50 years, if I wind it up, it will start ticking and get to work (inaccurately but still..)
@@robertnorris8367 I want the Sky Dweller. It's one of the most unpopular Rolex watches and hardly marketed at all. Yet one of the best you can have. Agree tho, pepsi, batman, hulk, sub are mostly wanted just to have one.
@@iceduckz I'm not a fan of Rolex's attitude. Artificial supply constraints to raise price and exclusivity without offering much in the way of advancement in return.
The sweeping hand on GS is so addictive,,, the more i see it the more i love it. GS sell tech, Rolex sell brand Omega sell design. They each have their own strength,,, for my pick it will be Omega. Love what they coming out after 2018, they have both the tech, look & off cos history. The micro shots of this video is amazing,,,,, correct me if i'm wrong, the shot is so clear that I can see some tiny white 'dots' on the GS dial.
Omega Planet Ocean all day and everyday for me out of these 3. Interesting he makes a big deal about depth rating, and the Omega is on a Leather strap. Which really just proves it's probably the most important aspect is how a watch wears, feels and looks
@Danny Edwardo It's certainly not my favourite looking Omega but as said out of the choice of the 3 discussed on this video I would still personally go for the Planet Ocean
@@pizza.doctor I'm not really a fan of the Hulk, I prefer Iron Man.....only joking. To be fair in my opinion there are far nicer models of each of the brand mentioned. But as always it's all subjective to the purchaser/wearer
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Thoroughly enjoyed this video. I love GS Spring Drives! 5 day power reserve is impressive. My first good dive watch was the Seiko Marinemaster 300m. This new GS has come along way. Thanks & Stay Safe
I'm a huge Grand Seiko fan and I would almost always choose GS instead of slightly boring and borderline overrated Rolex and Omega watches...but NOT in this case. When I first read of this fantastic piece, I was hyped to the maximum. As there are no GS dealerships in my home country, I managed to see and try one in Paris. What a disappointment! The watch is really wonderful, and it is finished above the standards of its Swiss rivals, plus it has a Spring Drive movement, for me the most exciting achievement in the watch world of today. So, why the sore feeling? Because it looks like a bloody brick on the wrist, that's why! I tried and wore some beasts in my time (Hamilton X-wind Chrono comes to mind), but nothing looked so sophisticated, so delicate, while at the same time being so unwearable! When you have a large watch, like AP Royal Oak Offshore for example (that I personally loathe, but whatever), it is at least designed and finished to be what it is - a huge, robust, tough timepiece, a different kind of luxury. And this GS Diver looks like the Frankenstein's monster, like a cross between Beauty and the Beast...yes, I like its design very much, I adore its finish and movement...I only wish it would come in a (way) smaller and slimmer package! So, my answer is - NO, this is NOT the Diver that I was waiting for, but it shows some promise...until then, I'll stick to my Omega and wait for GS to release something more wearable for us guys without Dwayne Johnson's-like wrists!
Last time as I was going to bed, Watchfinder & Co. put up a new Speedmaster video. This time, it's a new Grand Seiko video. Both definitely worth losing sleep over.
@@pibblesnbits I like the content of the channel so I'm willing to support it by disabling ad blocker. But an ad every 2.5 minutes gives me second thoughts...
Consider doing a video on the Jaeger LeCoultre Master Compressor Extreme Lab 2. A very different watch, way outside the box for such a traditional watch manufacturer.
Omega and RLX stick to their designs for heritage reasons. But is there such a thing as perfect design? Not sure. I like the differnt approach about Grand Seiko. They actually never stand still and always keeps on pushing forward pursuing that next step in watchmaking. The designs always change (it's not even meant to be perfect) and the sweeping seconds hand represents that: never stop. GS is probably one of my favorite respected watchmaking brands.
Rolex = prime example of the power of marketing. Once the consumers perceive you as the best , whatever you make will sell even if it's inferior to the competition
Thank you for another great video about an “experience” & not just specs and the usual diatribe about how “superior” ROLEX is, I’ve my name on a waiting list at the GS Boutique for this one - cannot wait to see if in person...worth the $?....I’ll let you know. 😎👍🏼
@@chris_4477 the actual watch is flawless. It's just too damn big. I suppose if someone is very rich and a big Seiko fan such that they would actually consider diving in a £10k watch then yes, this is the one to get. It looks like it was designed and made by the best watchmakers for diving. I could see it being cool as a casual desk diver too. You could get away with pairing the sea dweller with a suit that isn't made of neoprene, not so the Grand Seiko.
Nice video as always! i need to point out that the 9RA5 can’t be celebrating 60 years of Spring drive as it was first patented in 1978 and first watch with Spring drive landed in 1999 (7R68)
japanwatchconnection i have zero doubt in my mind that wouldnt know how old spring drive or GS is (and much more). There is so much great detail in these videos 👌🏻 but you know how it is - hard to resist pointing these things out if something is wrong 😂
Listen here boy, the Rolex is at 3 o clock and the white is kind of symmetrical with the 9 o clock marker. The Seiko is at 4 o clock and parallel with nothing
I have the sub, sea dweller and planet ocean. If Seiko could thin it’s watch to planet ocean level and trim to 44-45 mm, it would be great! The technical changes from the SBGA 229 are great, but it can be better. GS- Holler at me for ways to Samurai the competition...
I love the GS as the most beautiful dressy dive watch-especially given the elegant glide of Spring Drive, accuracy, and ridiculous PR. Technical dive capability would go to a Sinn though-if it’s about numbers. 😉
@@volod3mir agree. Neither is the sheer size. I'm a fan of Seiko watches, GS in primis, but they really need to get some better watch designer... The snowflake dial is lovable... But Ti case is a no no for me. This one looks too chunky and hands and hour marker are ugly. The only ones I really likes are those from the Grand Seiko Elegance Collection which are expensive like hell anyway. And yet they managed to ruin the caseback with a gigantic logo on the display glass...
I feel you sort of under stated seiko's dive watch innovations, the tuna comes immediately to mind and while not having the rolex hyped name the marine master watches are very much diving tools not pretty decoration.
I have one of these amazing watches. The ultimate dive watch! No needless helium relief valves. No ridiculous 1200 meter depth limit (if you ever get to that 1200 meter depth you were dead hundreds of meters ago! LOL)
Rolex is better though, the Parachrom hairspring is 100% magnetic resistant, the tri-synchro oscillator used in this movement can be destroyed by strong external AC force or disabled by DC field
I love your content and I understand the commercials of CZcams but having to skip or watch 3 adds for disney plus in an 11 minute video is really excessive.
In my opinion the Seiko Prospex Spring Drive watches or the lower end GS Spring Drive or Hi-Beat Sport watches are a better value for money. Less water resistance, but most of us don’t dive and those of us who do definitely do not go below 200-300m. Same Spring Drive movement but with a 3 day power reserve, so you’ll have to wind the watch 4 times in 10 days rather than 2 on the SLGA001. Not such a big deal for me, as I will most definitely take much pleasure in winding and spending time admiring the watch. You also get a lot more style options and (don’t berate need for this) better finishing on the lower cost models imho. On top of that, you have a GMT option on the lower end Spring Drive watches. This massive beast just doesn’t hit the mark for me.
The real world accuracy for my SBGA231 is 4-5 seconds per month after a year and a half of daily wear. This new Spring Drive is 30% MORE ACCURATE. Oof.
GS is only meant to be worn by 1% of the people with wrists large enough to accomodate that huge watch without looking silly. I choose Rolex any day any time
I feel like the only one in the room, but I just can’t bring myself to want a Grand Seiko, diver or otherwise. Given that I’ll maybe bob down to a perilous two or three metres, I’m going speak from the heart: Omega Seamaster Diver 300M (on a rubber strap). Thank you, Grand Seiko. I know you tried.
I was just like you until i bought one a SBGK005 and this watch is no less than a $25K VC, JLC or patek. Truly you must wear one for few days to fully appreciate what a watch is. The only problem once you look at it with a loupe then you will loose interest in most of your other watches. The GS is truly for a connoisseur.
Spring Drive needs a redesign reshuffle. The trick here was simple... they took the hated position for the power reserve and twitched the dial a little bit so the day is now at 4 and the PR at 9 but still just a quick-fix. I'm still gonna buy this, though, but I promise it'll be the last before they actually do something about that PR display positioning and the fact they don't make is normal the 8-day PR although in the after-market you can get it for 1k.
I prefer seiko over spring drive, because mm300 is pure mechanical and gs is hybrid.i find that seiko when regulated is cosc standard and eaven better then rolex or omega.
There was a time, just a few months ago, that you could watch one of these without an ad, I counted four in this 11 minute video. Is this CZcams or Watchfinder doing this?
I know ....Apples to Oranges....But....I am the proud longtime owner of a Breitling Chrono Avenger M1 Solid Titanium ...Superquartz Movement........Accuracy to +- 1Sec/Month.....Plus the Chronograph Pushers are magnetically engaged, making them functional under water...Only watch that can do this, I think...WR 1000m........Mine has the Yellow Face........Black Leather strap.........Form and Function to the highest order 👍...A real ‘Dandy’ ( My father’s expression)
The last product I bought from Seiko was an Epson printer; the ink got everywhere and the thing gave off chemical fumes that gave me a headache. Alas, Omega and Rolex just make watches. Maybe Blancpain will one day make a printer that wont soil my shirt.
I struggle to see why people make so much fuss over the Submariner - it wasn’t the first, isn’t the best, has lots of brand baggage and is so damn prevalent it is plain uncool. Even if you compare that model with its competitors you will see that in terms of watchmaking they really do fall short - boring plain cases, boring undecorated case backs, plain simplistic bracelets and dirt-trap bezels and cyclops glasses. I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder but really not for me - much much prefer the Omega and GS here and I am a former sea dweller owner and fanboy.
More than likely a texture. GS are all about textured dials if you look at some of their other models, like their Snowflake. No way they would let a flaw that serious out the door on a $10k watch!
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I’m more into G-shocks and quartz but that sweep on the Grand Seiko is something else out of this word that is hypnotic
I'm just waiting for Casio to come out with a couple of heavy hitters with gliding hands like that.
The benefit of solar charging, perhaps multiband atomic time with a classy or sporty look and a sweeping hand rather than a ticking one.
They do make some of the best quartz movements out there in my opinion. I'm not a fan of quartz and my latest addition was a GS quartz first and only to the collection so far
Have you tried a bulova persisionist
5:49 that shot fading the lume was beautiful deserved just a couple seconds more (:
“When it comes to its dive watches, Seiko credibility still has a long way to go.” Considering Seiko pretty much wrote ISO6425, considering it invented a 1000 metre diver without an HEV in the early seventies, considering its entry level Turtle and Samurai can easily give a Submariner a run for its money functionally, I beg to disagree that it’s credibility is in doubt. Maybe it’s panache isn’t there yet, but Seiko’s reputation was made by its inexpensive but indestructible dive watches for the last forty years.
**i paused video at this quote to write the above comment, then saw that Mr Hands actually mentioned most of those points. Apologies if I come across as ignorant.
Mr Hands just makes me think of those hands from Super Smash
You don't need a hev for diving deep. Only relevant for sat diving, not for depth. I agree with every other point you made
As a collector of vintage seikos and GSes. Hell yeaaaaa broootherrr haha
Is this watch made in Japan?
@@yourwisdomtooth5938 yes it is. The facility is called micro artist studio. There are some really interesting videos on it
I am not a dive watch fan, but that Omega ... wow, just wow, what a beauty
Defo going to get a 39.5mm at some point,it wears so well.and looks stunning!
Wow, just medium wow
@@dbiwatches1891 I had a 43.5 PO and got rid of it because of it's bulk on my 6.75" wrist. Got the 39.5 a few months ago and it's a fantastic watch. You can't go wrong
The black bezel/dial is is even nicer with the added contrast. Honestly the design and execution of the case and lugs on Omegas is much more pleasing compared to the Deepsea or the Sub. And this comes from someone who has both endlessly competing brands.
I enjoy my 2500 PO...not as large as the newer 8500 or 8900s. 👍⌚♎
Will never get over the sweeping seconds on GS
bulova has that sweeping seconds too 😂
Yes I second that! It's so smooth
SD don't sweeps. They glides...
@@Luke-bt4do grand seiko makes numerous chronos, and have for quite a while.
@@Luke-bt4do for example, reference sbgc201, or reference sbgc203
"...and the Sea Dweller, a magnifier on the date for its aging buyers." Haha!
"a magnifying windows to cater for it's ageing buyers"
LOL
If you live long enough...Im wondering if you will ignore to be catered to....
@@edwinthomas618 What boomer is going 1220m deep into the ocean?
@@heminder Sea burials?
If Rolex had just left out that cyclops lens the SD would have looked much better
@@heminder Are you talking about submarines or old people?
GS is really working their pricing upward as their popularity has grown. I have an SGBH255, which uses the same case as this one, but with the Hi-Beat movement and a more interesting textured dial. Even though it is huge, it wears really easily due to it being Ti.
The finish of GS turns Rolex into a childs plaything. I have both, and both have their place. But there is just no going around the incredible details of a grand seiko. Which is something that will never be faked as convincingly as some Rolexes are
Also, let's not forget that there is no way fake the Spring Drive sweep.
@@Michael-Gill why couldnt you copy the movement with a cheap quartz crystal just wouldnt be quite as accurate
@@simonbrown9695 wtf are you talking about? Look up "Spring Drive"
I bought the GS... and I haven’t taken it off since I did. It really is quite stunning in person. Much more subtle in a E63s Estate sort of way. The clasp is definitely the weak point especially compared to my Rolex and Panerai but the band makes up for it. The interesting part about the clasp though, is it’s dive suit adjustability on the fly that also makes one get over the design..function over form for sure.
I’m use to wearing a Marine Master SBDX014 so I’m probably the wrong one to ask as far as size but it really wears nicely. I’m not sure about the negative comments about the dial....in person I assure you that it really is fabulous. You find yourself looking at it as your driving with the sun hitting it and your hand is at the top of the wheel. The polishing and the ceramic bezel continue to make me feel that it is worth what I paid for the watch... sounds kind of weird to say for an $11K watch (the most I’ve ever spent on a time piece), but it’s true.
Congrats! It is stunning!
Sorry to resurrect your years old comment but as the price of these is so attractive at the moment I’ve worked up a bit of interest. I’ve got an MM300 that I love the size of - how does the fit compare between the two for you? TIA
Does it make a good daily wearer ❓️
The smooth second on the GS is soooo satisfying to watch, i cant't even...
The Grand Seiko we've waited for is a diver at 40mm.
Yes!
I can't believe how long we have been asking for this.
Well, the waiting has an end. The grand seiko sbge253 is a diver, that comes in at 40.5mm and three colors
@@d.b.2181 It's a GMT, and has the looks of a GMT. Everyone is after a reliable, every day 40mm GS alternative to the Sub, Seamaster and Tudor BB. A mini SBGA029 would be perfect, hell - call it a ladies if you want to safeguard your design identity of having gigantic watches. Just give us a normal diver, in a normal size, with the killer spring drive movement!
The springdrive is too big.
Every watch you review,it’s like discovering a new planet.
I would definitely pick the omega out of these.
Good, more GS to us watch nerds
@@RustyNotesTV nop, actually I just put a deposit down on a GS GMT 40mm SBGE255
@@mrb317 smart man
Better style on the Omega than the GS
That Grand Seiko’s Spring Drive sweeping seconds is unparalleled in the industry, and is the only unadulterated faithful representation of the passage of time which is in a continuous uninterruptible movement. Simply mesmerising.
I love today. Another wonderful video from the talking hands.
You’re the bloke who used to say “ it’s a good day when watch finder releases a video”. Do you do this across many channels you sub to? What’s your motivation? I am intrigued to understand your motive. If you’re honest enough to answer of course.
@@pintthereof4598 just adding comments for the channel hoping it benefits them monetize the channel if possible or something. I dont know how it works. And they make great videos.
chinchinche as you were, sir.
@@pintthereof4598 while we're chatting, may I ask, what you have in your collection? It's always nice to speak to a watch enthusiast.
chinchinche I don’t have one. Used to have a sea master but found it too heavy sitting at a desk all day so got rid of it. Hope to one day have a royal oak, hulk, Pepsi or if I dared to dream an ALS Saxonia moon phase. You got some watches?
Rolex has been resting on their laurels. Omega and GS are way ahead with their flagship divers.
Way ahead in technology, sure. But in sales, Rolex is still the king. Everyone and their dad want a submariner, for good reason. I'm speaking as someone who's lucky enough to own all 3 (Rolex, Omega, GS).
Personally, my GS gets the most wrist time.
iceduckz everyone and their dog wants a Rolex due to marketing and as a status symbol.
@@robertnorris8367 yes, the brand is extremely valuable and they have been incredibly good at marketing. But as a watch enthusiast, I can appreciate the simplicity and quality of a submariner. Rolex still produces amazing, high quality, made in house, watches.
And guess what, the watch that was passed down to me from my grandpa is a Rolex and I hope I will pass it down (as well as my other pieces) to my children. That Rolex has never been serviced in 50 years, if I wind it up, it will start ticking and get to work (inaccurately but still..)
@@robertnorris8367 I want the Sky Dweller. It's one of the most unpopular Rolex watches and hardly marketed at all. Yet one of the best you can have.
Agree tho, pepsi, batman, hulk, sub are mostly wanted just to have one.
@@iceduckz I'm not a fan of Rolex's attitude. Artificial supply constraints to raise price and exclusivity without offering much in the way of advancement in return.
The sweeping hand on GS is so addictive,,, the more i see it the more i love it. GS sell tech, Rolex sell brand Omega sell design. They each have their own strength,,, for my pick it will be Omega. Love what they coming out after 2018, they have both the tech, look & off cos history. The micro shots of this video is amazing,,,,, correct me if i'm wrong, the shot is so clear that I can see some tiny white 'dots' on the GS dial.
You would be a very lucky man if you own just one of these watches. Competition is not relevant here, I think.
I love ❤️ dive watches but for now I’ll just stick with my dive computer-it actually gets wet in the ocean!!
Omega Planet Ocean all day and everyday for me out of these 3. Interesting he makes a big deal about depth rating, and the Omega is on a Leather strap. Which really just proves it's probably the most important aspect is how a watch wears, feels and looks
@Danny Edwardo It's certainly not my favourite looking Omega but as said out of the choice of the 3 discussed on this video I would still personally go for the Planet Ocean
@@77cjam i think I would make the same choice out of the three. But if I could make changes, I'd talke a sub hulk cause I already got a SMPc 300
@@pizza.doctor I'm not really a fan of the Hulk, I prefer Iron Man.....only joking. To be fair in my opinion there are far nicer models of each of the brand mentioned. But as always it's all subjective to the purchaser/wearer
@japanwatchconnection you tired? You should sleep
I think it is a rubber strap looking like leather?
Your awesome narration, add premiumness to the watch
Notice the true sweeping second hand of the seiko, I don’t know of another watch that has a truly completely smooth seconds hand
Adds are killing the vibe, man. Play them all first so they don't interrupt
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Just pay for Premium., You will never go back. 11$/month. Well spent money
Pay for CZcams premium. That way your vibe won’t be interfered with.
You know it’s a good day when Watchfinder&Co. puts up a new video.
Omega hands down.
Omega looks the best
Thoroughly enjoyed this video. I love GS Spring Drives! 5 day power reserve is impressive. My first good dive watch was the Seiko Marinemaster 300m. This new GS has come along way. Thanks & Stay Safe
Nope , thirst I think of Sinn UX , that’s a real diver !
Tr1gg3r f1ng3r or the u2 if you want a mechanical, sinn is the real king of tool watches
Thanks for uploading.
GS deserves a lot more recognition.
I'm a huge Grand Seiko fan and I would almost always choose GS instead of slightly boring and borderline overrated Rolex and Omega watches...but NOT in this case. When I first read of this fantastic piece, I was hyped to the maximum. As there are no GS dealerships in my home country, I managed to see and try one in Paris. What a disappointment! The watch is really wonderful, and it is finished above the standards of its Swiss rivals, plus it has a Spring Drive movement, for me the most exciting achievement in the watch world of today. So, why the sore feeling? Because it looks like a bloody brick on the wrist, that's why! I tried and wore some beasts in my time (Hamilton X-wind Chrono comes to mind), but nothing looked so sophisticated, so delicate, while at the same time being so unwearable! When you have a large watch, like AP Royal Oak Offshore for example (that I personally loathe, but whatever), it is at least designed and finished to be what it is - a huge, robust, tough timepiece, a different kind of luxury. And this GS Diver looks like the Frankenstein's monster, like a cross between Beauty and the Beast...yes, I like its design very much, I adore its finish and movement...I only wish it would come in a (way) smaller and slimmer package! So, my answer is - NO, this is NOT the Diver that I was waiting for, but it shows some promise...until then, I'll stick to my Omega and wait for GS to release something more wearable for us guys without Dwayne Johnson's-like wrists!
Omega is such a gem, they make great watches that aren't stupidly overpriced.
As of today they are
Last time as I was going to bed, Watchfinder & Co. put up a new Speedmaster video.
This time, it's a new Grand Seiko video.
Both definitely worth losing sleep over.
Omega looks very beautiful
3 commercial breaks during an 11 minutes videos, 4 ads in total...
Ad block. Google it.
@@pibblesnbits I like the content of the channel so I'm willing to support it by disabling ad blocker. But an ad every 2.5 minutes gives me second thoughts...
Very surprised by the poor finishings on the GS, especially compared to the PO
I don't understand why Seiko/Grand Seiko won't make a good 40mm diver, the day they do I'll be first in line
Yeah, also considering they (the Japanese) aren't exactly known for their large wrists...
Consider doing a video on the Jaeger LeCoultre Master Compressor Extreme Lab 2. A very different watch, way outside the box for such a traditional watch manufacturer.
That sweep. Amazing.
Omega and RLX stick to their designs for heritage reasons. But is there such a thing as perfect design? Not sure. I like the differnt approach about Grand Seiko. They actually never stand still and always keeps on pushing forward pursuing that next step in watchmaking. The designs always change (it's not even meant to be perfect) and the sweeping seconds hand represents that: never stop. GS is probably one of my favorite respected watchmaking brands.
That sweep...😍
OMG I actually waited Up for this.
What🤣 how did you know this would be the exact video this channel would post? Gtfo with that fake shit
Rolex = prime example of the power of marketing. Once the consumers perceive you as the best , whatever you make will sell even if it's inferior to the competition
blancpain fifty fathoms bathyscaphe is a great "desk driver" for someone looking to spend that sort of money
Surprised to see a competitors advert in the middle of this presentation!!
GS too big, Rolex too Rolex, I'd go for the Omega.
Thank you for another great video about an “experience” & not just specs and the usual diatribe about how “superior” ROLEX is, I’ve my name on a waiting list at the GS Boutique for this one - cannot wait to see if in person...worth the $?....I’ll let you know. 😎👍🏼
I like The Seiko LSGA001 dive watch. I thank Omega should eliminate the crown valve, it looks like a horn and makes the watch design uneven.
The dial text and finish is abysmally bad on the GS.
Indeed. I've seen some pretty poor finishes on Rolex watches too though, usually around the outside bezel edge and date bubble.
I'm a big Seiko fan and I have to agree. The holes within the letters are quite misaligned.
I think it is a prototype piece or some sort of display model. The actual watch is being released around now, and this was filmed 3 months ago.
@@chris_4477 the actual watch is flawless. It's just too damn big. I suppose if someone is very rich and a big Seiko fan such that they would actually consider diving in a £10k watch then yes, this is the one to get. It looks like it was designed and made by the best watchmakers for diving. I could see it being cool as a casual desk diver too. You could get away with pairing the sea dweller with a suit that isn't made of neoprene, not so the Grand Seiko.
Seiko starts at 6:17
I was a little turned off by the 4pm crown, but that movement is astounding.
9RA5 next level stuff. Just awsome all the way - its the high end diver watch nobody needs but everybody wants :) WOW
Nice video as always! i need to point out that the 9RA5 can’t be celebrating 60 years of Spring drive as it was first patented in 1978 and first watch with Spring drive landed in 1999 (7R68)
japanwatchconnection He says ”the 9ra5 celebrates 60 years since that first spring drive”, i understood this as reference to the movement.
japanwatchconnection i have zero doubt in my mind that wouldnt know how old spring drive or GS is (and much more). There is so much great detail in these videos 👌🏻 but you know how it is - hard to resist pointing these things out if something is wrong 😂
japanwatchconnection I Didnt know about Credors using it 👌🏻
Love GS, but is it that hard to come up with a few names for their models?
I love GS but are only people with 8” wrists their diver target market? And a date window that doesn’t match the colour of the dial??? For shame
even rolex has a white date window on black dial lol, non issue there
Listen here boy, the Rolex is at 3 o clock and the white is kind of symmetrical with the 9 o clock marker. The Seiko is at 4 o clock and parallel with nothing
46mm lmfao
I have the sub, sea dweller and planet ocean. If Seiko could thin it’s watch to planet ocean level and trim to 44-45 mm, it would be great! The technical changes from the SBGA 229 are great, but it can be better. GS- Holler at me for ways to Samurai the competition...
I love the GS as the most beautiful dressy dive watch-especially given the elegant glide of Spring Drive, accuracy, and ridiculous PR. Technical dive capability would go to a Sinn though-if it’s about numbers. 😉
Those hands are anything but elegant imho...
@@volod3mir agree. Neither is the sheer size. I'm a fan of Seiko watches, GS in primis, but they really need to get some better watch designer... The snowflake dial is lovable... But Ti case is a no no for me. This one looks too chunky and hands and hour marker are ugly. The only ones I really likes are those from the Grand Seiko Elegance Collection which are expensive like hell anyway. And yet they managed to ruin the caseback with a gigantic logo on the display glass...
You can fit that under a dress shirt?
Love the smoooth second hand sweep on the Seiko
I feel you sort of under stated seiko's dive watch innovations, the tuna comes immediately to mind and while not having the rolex hyped name the marine master watches are very much diving tools not pretty decoration.
The thing about Grand Seiko owners is, they don’t want you to talk about Grand Seiko.
Enicar Ultrasonic Sherpa Seapearl divers always most iconic divers I have two of them from the early 60’s still going strong !
I have one of these amazing watches. The ultimate dive watch! No needless helium relief valves. No ridiculous 1200 meter depth limit (if you ever get to that 1200 meter depth you were dead hundreds of meters ago! LOL)
Rolex is better though, the Parachrom hairspring is 100% magnetic resistant, the tri-synchro oscillator used in this movement can be destroyed by strong external AC force or disabled by DC field
The SLGA015 has fixed the size problem.
I love your content and I understand the commercials of CZcams but having to skip or watch 3 adds for disney plus in an 11 minute video is really excessive.
In my opinion the Seiko Prospex Spring Drive watches or the lower end GS Spring Drive or Hi-Beat Sport watches are a better value for money. Less water resistance, but most of us don’t dive and those of us who do definitely do not go below 200-300m. Same Spring Drive movement but with a 3 day power reserve, so you’ll have to wind the watch 4 times in 10 days rather than 2 on the SLGA001. Not such a big deal for me, as I will most definitely take much pleasure in winding and spending time admiring the watch.
You also get a lot more style options and (don’t berate need for this) better finishing on the lower cost models imho. On top of that, you have a GMT option on the lower end Spring Drive watches. This massive beast just doesn’t hit the mark for me.
I just find the Plaet Ocean to be the most attractive. I don't care for round indices.
Thank you for another great video
Looks Rolex, Dial finishing Omega, Second Hand sweep Grand Seiko.
The real world accuracy for my SBGA231 is 4-5 seconds per month after a year and a half of daily wear. This new Spring Drive is 30% MORE ACCURATE.
Oof.
Is it 47mm?
OMEGA all the way!!!!!
Rolex Sea Dweller 43! So beautiful and only 43 size ever made, perfect dimensions!
GS is only meant to be worn by 1% of the people with wrists large enough to accomodate that huge watch without looking silly. I choose Rolex any day any time
I feel like the only one in the room, but I just can’t bring myself to want a Grand Seiko, diver or otherwise. Given that I’ll maybe bob down to a perilous two or three metres, I’m going speak from the heart: Omega Seamaster Diver 300M (on a rubber strap). Thank you, Grand Seiko. I know you tried.
You're not the only one in the room.
Well said
Never been into Seiko. The second hand motion is the best thing about their watches, but it is still not enough to persuade me to buy one
I was just like you until i bought one a SBGK005 and this watch is no less than a $25K VC, JLC or patek. Truly you must wear one for few days to fully appreciate what a watch is. The only problem once you look at it with a loupe then you will loose interest in most of your other watches. The GS is truly for a connoisseur.
The lume for SLGA001 is all green how'd you get blue lume on the indices? 07:58
Spring Drive needs a redesign reshuffle. The trick here was simple... they took the hated position for the power reserve and twitched the dial a little bit so the day is now at 4 and the PR at 9 but still just a quick-fix. I'm still gonna buy this, though, but I promise it'll be the last before they actually do something about that PR display positioning and the fact they don't make is normal the 8-day PR although in the after-market you can get it for 1k.
I prefer seiko over spring drive, because mm300 is pure mechanical and gs is hybrid.i find that seiko when regulated is cosc standard and eaven better then rolex or omega.
There was a time, just a few months ago, that you could watch one of these without an ad, I counted four in this 11 minute video. Is this CZcams or Watchfinder doing this?
It's Google/CZcams being assholes trying to force everyone onto CZcams premium.
Great video. I hope to see that new GS in person soon. Cheers!
GS divers include the crown in their measurements - ie they overstate the size
I came too look at the GS but now want an Omega.
Awesome! Not for me but can appreciate the attention to detail from GS
If ever happen a mega documentary about watch. They need you man. Ur really good.
Now that GS is what i call a steel stunner ...looks right bad ass
Love grand seiko! My grail!
I know it's a Grand Seiko video but damn those Omega macros look incredible
GS aside, how do you rate Seiko in general? Are they a worthy entry level watch for a new enthusiast?
I missed Sinn UX / U1 / U2 in this Video !
I know ....Apples to Oranges....But....I am the proud longtime owner of a Breitling Chrono Avenger M1 Solid Titanium ...Superquartz Movement........Accuracy to +- 1Sec/Month.....Plus the Chronograph Pushers are magnetically engaged, making them functional under water...Only watch that can do this, I think...WR 1000m........Mine has the Yellow Face........Black Leather strap.........Form and Function to the highest order 👍...A real ‘Dandy’ ( My father’s expression)
as always, Seiko second hand movement is best . . .
Nice video, thank you Watchfinder. Can't warm up to spring drive, sorry.
None of these are really my flavor, but if I had to rank them it would be Omega>GS>>>>>>>>Rolex.
If I'm going to get a 47mm dive watch, I still like the Hamilton Frogman.
The last product I bought from Seiko was an Epson printer; the ink got everywhere and the thing gave off chemical fumes that gave me a headache. Alas, Omega and Rolex just make watches. Maybe Blancpain will one day make a printer that wont soil my shirt.
Omega Planet Ocean is the lowest cost and best of this group in my opinion. Lovely piece.
I don't know. There's just something impure about the Spring Drive - kind of like having an Olympic runner with bionic legs.
I would take the Omega. Why? Because it gives you more value for your money. And look at it... Just beautiful...
I struggle to see why people make so much fuss over the Submariner - it wasn’t the first, isn’t the best, has lots of brand baggage and is so damn prevalent it is plain uncool. Even if you compare that model with its competitors you will see that in terms of watchmaking they really do fall short - boring plain cases, boring undecorated case backs, plain simplistic bracelets and dirt-trap bezels and cyclops glasses. I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder but really not for me - much much prefer the Omega and GS here and I am a former sea dweller owner and fanboy.
Not overly impressed with the macros on the GS, you can see bubbles on the dial !!!!
I suspect that is intentional texture, not bubbles.
Where?
More than likely a texture. GS are all about textured dials if you look at some of their other models, like their Snowflake. No way they would let a flaw that serious out the door on a $10k watch!
@@MrR2185 I doubt it's texture. Do a CZcams search for the Grand Seiko GMT review and you will see one CZcamsr noting the same bubble issue
Amazing details