FSU Law Professor Murder Trial Day 7 Witness Spc Agt Patrick Sanford Wiretap Recordings Part 2
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- FSU Law Professor Murder Trial Day 7 Witness Spc Agt Patrick Sanford Wiretap Recordings Part 2
#FSULawProfessorMurderTrial #MarkelMurder
Any normal innocent person would of called the police right away. End of the story!!!!!
not true, i know a lot of people who dont call the police
*would have
They would have called!! I agree!
Charlie Adelson and his mom need to go to prison. Seriously
McFlySwatter ...a team of seven lawyers if you’ve done nothing wrong?!
Actually there are eight. Money can do that.
@@karencronin9502 You can tell they were involved just from listening to the calls. Unfortunately with the way our legal system works sometimes that is not enough. They should just be glad they didn't hurt anyone in my family. I'm not sure I'd be able to leave things to the legal system if that were the case.
Things change.
I think Kaddie will flip on the Adelsons.
They don't have the goods on the mom.
How many of us has listened to this many times?
Yes, I keep having to listen to these undercover recordings over and over to determine 1. Who the calls are between (who is speaking to whom) 2. Then to listen for deception, key words, key phrases 3. To go back to the pictures to figure out Tato vs Tuto. 4. The undercover who picks up when Charlie calls days that Tato hasn't been taken care of the way Tuto and Katie have been. Therefore I've come to the conclusion RIGHT THERE that Tato had been working (cooperating) with the undercover agents making these calls that we are listening to here 5. Listening to Charlie and Katie talking back and forth to eachother and using key phrases knowing that the FEDS are onto them. They absolutely know that this is the FEDS w/wiretaps. 6. When Charlie tells his mom not to worry and states to her, "We know who this is" he means "FEDS" and his mom knows exactly what he means. I continue to listen and replay this to gather clues, including locations: Broward (County in FL) Yet... Charlie and Katie would know that they've all been paid for the murder of Dan Markel so why did they invest so much into this random number.
My BIG question: Were these calls placed before or after Tato and Tuto were arrested for the murder of Dan? Or are these calls way back in 2014-2015 prior to any arrests????
@@CatalinaFOIA someone seems to be deleting my comment. Ill try again
Bump 4/2016, Garcia arrest 5/2016, Katie arrest 9/2016. Calls were made after the bump and before the arrest.
The case that keeps giving
Me!!
I love how charlie always changes what was said during the calls to make himself sound so tough "I said it doesn't matter who I am" He lives in a fantasy land...he likely had to change his shorts after that call.
You called it!😂😂😂
lol yes i noticed that - in fact so many people do that! pathetic me tinks
C.A. And K.M. are both terrified. They believed that this would have blown away by now. But, the kick was wide right. Now they are forced to play overtime. Tuff guy cursing, but neither is prepared to show any courage, and call that number. They had a man murdered for pocket change. This cannot be their first rodeo because consider the time and energy they are spending dissecting a phone number.
Yes. He's cowering during the phone call to undercover.
This was the comment I was looking for lolololol. He def tried to sound harder when he was telling Katie what he said lol. Dude is a real softy LOL!!
Hats off to these attorneys for keeping these calls straight! Amazing!
The calls have exhibit numbers on them. Not hard to keep track of them.
How does a mom have time to do this? How does a mom talk like this ? Disgusting. What a different Katherine than on the stand. Trying to act all meek and soft on the stand. Puleeeez!!
She had everyone else caring for her children
I totally agree, I barely have time to make my hair 😭
Most of us use the fk wordincluding people in high places, some more than others. She kept being asked m, so she uses fk, that makes u s lowlife, nooo.
I agree. Everyone curses outside of court! Even the judges! Of course she’s not going to curse on the stand in her own murder trial!!! I wouldn’t either! Wait til Wendi goes down! The glasses will come on, the makeup off, the hair in a bun…..you’ll see! Crying alligator tears and having to pause bc of the “trauma”, making him out to be an abuser, little childish whisper voice…..I’m kinda looking forward to it tbh
That is her too, but automatically reverting back to her Catholic Philippines upbringing when faced with an authority figure. She was no doubt very well-behaved and respectful as a small child, the way she was in the witness box. Where did it all go wrong?
I love how every time the defense objects, the judge pretty much responds with “shut up, overruled…🙄”
Every. Single. Time.
Almost😆
Because they no they guilty
Have to say I thought he was ex rude with Georgia during luis testimony.
Legend has it that Sigfredo is still trying to figure out the phone number.
Yeah nr
😅😂
Hahahahaa
😅😅😅😅😅
Hahaha
The judge might have a shaky voice but he's definitely got a good grip on the case & the trial procedure
The judge is stellar.
You are correct. Robert Kennedy, Jr. has and Katherine Hepburn had spasmodic dysphonia causing essential tremor of their voice.
The judge has Parkinson’s and retired recently
@@guntrader5652 So sad, good Judge!
Someone stated he passed away
This guy Simon/Sammy has a very, VERRRRY strong FBI accent. lol
They chose someone who wasn't rough voiced - also sounded too educated and polite. Charlie knew straight away yet continued talking talking talking .....😂
it's so obvious the Adelsons are guilty.
For sure Charles is involved 💯
If you want to get away with committing a crime (especially murder), do it in Florida -- Hi, Casey! Hi, George Zimmerman -- How a jury listened to these tapes and didn't convict Katherine is mind-boggling. And how the Adelsons haven't even been arrested is reprehensible.
Yes yes yes - what you said!
Well now, Katie is finally getting her due. Lying on the stand did her in. Apparently, no family members attended the trial. I read somewhere that her family paid some of her lawyer bills.
I know but thank goodness the next jury got it right!
I don't know much about Florida law; otherwise, I agree
She did get convicted??
After listening to these wiretaps I don’t see how that jury didn’t find Katie guilty. Thank god the second jury did. She’s where she belongs for the rest of her life.
@charlieshairpiece I don't think she's doing it just to give "closure" to the family.
She sounds different that the yes mam no mam she usually presents 😂
@Donna_EvilsonMaddening, Roy!
No state is as bad as California and New York
Did anyone catch on when Katie told Charlie he's taking too much when Charlie mentioned Tato's name the third time. She got mad and told Charlie he's being too repetitive lol. She's 100% guilty of conspiracy to commit murder. She is the conduit to this whole murder plot.
I think her words were actually "you're saying too much now" which sounds even worse. "You're talking too much" sounds like typical ex-GF/BF talk... which is what she tried to play it off as. I think she was definitely trying to stop him saying any more, but other times I think it's Charlie stopping her from talking.
Yep
Also I thought Donna said Sammy called then CA said Simon. Did I miss something?
They’re ALL guilty, period. All of them know what they did.
Does it bother anyone else that every time Charlie and his mom end a call, she says "I love you" and he never says it back?
nah. They murdered someone. That bothers me.
I noticed it
I noticed that as well!
Charlie don't love anyone but himself.
He's so stressed, it's great. Honestly, the sweat before the swoop is awesome. I can't imagine the anxiety he has lived with since. It sounds like he's going crazy worrying and I think that's why he is like that with his mom on the phone.
For innocent people, Charlie and mom sure are worried about something they are supposedly not involved in. Seems like truly innocent people would either blow this off or REPORT THE HARASSMENT TO POLICE!!
It seems like it because that’s exactly what would happen IF they were innocent- but they’re not so..
I love listening to them all squirming it's so much fun.
Exactly... Guilty by consciousness
Well, good for Charlie, Katie & others,they wont use it.
@@normacolon9618in prison that might have to use it
I can’t wait until Charlie, Donna and Wendi get charged🥰
Mrs Libertas oh, yeah!! We all waiting! Who is the “ gentleman,” seated at the other table, “ across” from Miss Katie? One of her “ sidekicks”?
How is Wendi going to be charged?
@@jshuffield I can't say that I know everything that the state has, but if this trial is the extent of the evidence against her, in a general sense, they have next to nothing against her. And if they had anything else, it would have been revealed here. Don't get me wrong. I am not saying she had no part in it. I am merely referring to the basis to charge her with anything. There isn't one, for all practical purposes.
this whole trial is being done to put a big giant circle around them...Once Katie’s retrial, she’s gonna flip and that whole family best prepare for a change in lifestyle....that’s gonna be amazing to watch!!! they’re the original ones that started the ball rolling to set out the hit!!! Look at the Pamela & Gary Triano situation...just look that up on youtube...You bore a hit or are involved in any way,and it actually happens, life in prison for all involved and shooter gets life with possibility for death penalty...Pamela was family friends and we never thought she did it but decades later, we found out we were wrong...Super interesting situation!!! Those ppl are all going down...it took them almost 14 yrs but Pam is in prison for live!!
I’m sure you have your popcorn ready since he’s been charged and the retrial of Katy!! 🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿
Just the fact that Charlie, Katie and Sigfredo put this much energy into this shows their guilt in a major way. These phone calls between sigfredo, Charlie and Katie are being made out of conscious guilt. If i was on this jury Katie would of been 100% guilty. These Adelsons need to be in prison for life.
This girl thinks she’s so gangster 😂😂😂 but she never even called the number. I bet she’s little miss innocent on the stand 🤣
On the stand “she can’t recall” anything. Not so badass on the stand lol. 😂
@@MsK_1111 you ain’t lying 😂 that girl suffers from “I don’t remember” badly!
She was a gold digger
@@Nashvilletn-dm1pt you are absolutely right!!
Charlie Adelson certainly didn't sound like an innocent person on that phone call to "Sammy". He sounded like someone who had just peed on himself.
He was just arrested.
Dynamic defacation
And he didn't quite relay it like that to Katie 😂😂
I think it’s funny that Katie asks if the undercover cop is saying “bad words” like she didn’t just plan/execute a murder and just had a phone call with expletives every other word.
Hahaha I think she thought if it’s a cop they can’t curse! Which is even more laughable bc they do it all the time!
Katie, Charlie, and Donna have so much FEAR! They are all going insane. This is the truth unfolding.
These have got to be the stupidest people ever to conspire to murder someone. They are so trashy ugh… I really hope Florida gets this right bc the country is watching. I’m following this case from NC.
RIP Dan ❤️
Its old case
Trashy Kawas yawning during trial. She is so rude. She is ghetto. Just like Katie M.
25:58
Right...a bunch of trash people that can't get a phone number correct, much less plan out a crime and get away with it
And delusional.
I learned as a young kid to go straight cuz what I did not realize was the mental torment that includes being worried that I might get caught. Just imagine the torment the Adelsons are going through knowing they face years in prison. People of their social class and standing are used to things going successfully because they are smart and can think things through. But even the best of us face not thought of unintended consequences. Dan Markel was a bright, hard working person and to take his life over a custody problem deserves the maximum punishment allowed by law. Proving up a case is often not easy. If even one Juror doesn’t get it the defendant wins.
What kind of people have no conscience; to kill an innocent man of such stature and achievement to take away his own kids. How dare him for wanting to keep the kids he raised and loved.
Psychopaths don't worry about things like that.
Looks like that's exactly what happened. Someone didn't listen to the facts and a mistrial was called. Thank goodness they all got it this time around.
Dan Markel had a right to live out his natural lifespan. He was loved by his family and friends. This is a horrific crime that deserves the MAXIMUM penalty, and yes, I'm talking the death penalty for Charlie AND his viper of a mother. I believe Wendi knew all about it, too, but she won't be charged.
1000%%
“If someone messing with me?….they are messing with you. If someone messing with you?… they are messing with me.” What more evidence you need to be sure they are involved.
Ron - you mean: “By listening to their conversations, What more evidence do you need that this is like a second rate 70’s B-Movie.
@@ToldAlthea Well said,
Wow, nailed it
For sure and it's obvious why that was said.
Charlie, katie and Donna are soooooo guilty.
And Wendi; see how she tried to frame her ex boyfriend, scheduling the murder at the exact time she knew he would be near the scene of the murder and would be "fleeing" to Tennessee from that scene. She's the only one who knew his exact travel plans. Fortunately, he decided to leave the night before instead, without telling Wendi or anyone, or who knows if he might have been charged. Funny how she made sure to tell the cops during her interview that her ex-boyfriend would be a suspect.
This was worth never seeing your kids again other than behind an occasional glass wall visit?!
Right
This judge has grown on me, he runs a tight ship.
@37:15 I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY PROSECUTORS DID'T MAKE A BIGGER DEAL ABOUT KATIE SAYING "ITS GETTING TOO DETAILED. ..HE KNOWS ..FOR SURE...FOR SURE"
Right there proves her guilt
Listening to the conversations of these criminals make my hair stand on end; so cold calculating like they took for granted that they had hurt so many lives in the process!,
She’s gonna call the FBI 😂
Charlie and Katy think they are outsmarting the law. They know they are being tapped. They continue this charade of being so confused about who this guy is at that number. I like the way they threw in there about wanting to tap their phones.
Thanks for such interesting and intriguing cases 😀!
"OverRuled" equals "F**ck Off
Great Judge
So the whole world has changed. We are in the digital, communication, internet age. But one thing hasn't changed since the days of Bonnie & Clyde and 1920s gangsters. DONT TALK ON THE PHONE !☎️☎️ Thank God criminals are idiots !
I watched case of serial murderer
They used computers to track people from traveling from city to another with certain demographics in a certain time frame. N
Narrowed to 84 suspect and a loner college kid ... Busted
The center city Philadelphia murders through open windows at night. On A&E Ithink
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
48:10 So in addition to being so shady, he also sucks as a doctor! Someone was asking him for a medication without Tylenol and he said "vicodin, that's acetaminophen, it's ibuprofen, it's not tylenol".... WRONG! Tylenol is the brand name for acetaminophen... how could he not know that as a dentist, since he probably prescribes that often after procedures?? Hope that person isn't allergic to it smh
Thank you! Hes trying to kill more people lol. At first I thought he was saying a hydrocodone preparation with ibuprofen (so "vicodin" without apap but ibuprofen instead) but I listened back and no hes just an idiot.
He's clearly distracted.
Look at his ratings online; of course it's probably because he's a notorious murderer.
I heard that and thought I heard wrong.
Ok he's not a pharmacist even doctors get confused they are not specialist in medications that's where the pharmacist comes in and calls the doctor to correct them Vicodin gets prescribed most of the time for heavy pains that Tylenol can't cover so he knew that
I think it’s funny that Katie says the caller using the word “reference” is a man whose educated. Tells you insight into her level of how educated people speak.
who's
Charlie trying to sound so tough, lol, what a DolT
This judge don’t mess around !!! I like him, Judge NO BS
Katie, “…he’s using bad words?” 😂
Should i call Donna and ask her for 5k ? 😀
😂
Such a tangled web. Katherine appears to be the smartest and leader of this group. She seems to be calling the tune and is not being honest with Charlie in that she denies knowing who this other person is ie Garcia by "nickname" and family who is being taken care of. Yet when she rang Garcia she said they mentioned her name and his name, with no hesitation. Oh, and the codes. Now, if they are not hiding anything, why do they need codes? These phone calls are the most interesting part of the case so far. We actually get to hear their voices.
Methinks it's not a matter of KM "not being honest" with Charlie. She's playing to the tapped phone, in order to lamely deny plausability to LE.
they know its the cops
@@bobbieboomboomkelly Because the cops messed up using a cop with a strong NY American accent instead of a latin accent, and using terms such as "what is this in reference to" instead of slang or ghetto language. They couldn't get a latin sounding cop in Florida to do the calls...fools. .
Smartest? She's been in jail for years and away from the kids she says she loves; all she would have to do to get out and be with her kids is to tell the truth on the Adelson's, and yet she won't do it...As if out of 330 million people, her babu daddyjust so happened to kill her boss's brother in law. Lastly, her baby daddy would've ratted on the Adelson's to save Katie if Katie had nothing to do with it. He has nothing to lose serving life without parole. So if it was just him and the Adeloson's, he would have said it by now. Katie won't sing unless and until she is convicted.
The thing is Charlie is book smart, but Mabangua is street smart. She knows what's going on here. She even said it was probably the FBI. The other thing is that unlike Charlie, she knows Garcia and Rivera and she knows that they would never have anyone approach Donna Adelson. All they wanted to do was get some quick bread to buy some toys. They don't even know what Donna Adelson looks like. So if they didn't do it, it has to be the Feds or the local police. Of course she ain't gonna tell Charlie who "Tata" is. First of all, she knows he had nothing to do with it, and even if he did have something to do with it, she wouldn't tell Charlie, because Garcia is her baby daddy. And if Garcia was trying an extortion attempt, Mabangua would clearly be involved because like i said earlier, Garcia don't even know what Donna Adelson looks like. Mabangua is a conniving psychopath. She's the brains. She's the one that set thing whole thing up. Garcia and Rivera was just the stool pigeons.
It’s amazing to hear Charlie a little bit of nervousness in his voice 🙄
10:56 : “…somebody’s pulling your bones…” 😆
I want to know why Charlie, Donna and Harvey aren't held for contempt of court for not showing up for this hearing after they were subpoenaed.
Those two jurors who didn't find Kate guilty are insane.
ummmm and Wendie gets to run totally free when this was all around her gettin g full custody of her kids and moving down to south Florida where all of her family is!!! She’s at the top of the pyramid here!!!
The jurors were likely paid off or threatened in some way. The Adelsons are rich and politically connected.
Because of the 5th Amendment. They can plead the 5th. Murder has no Statue of Limitations. They will get Charlie, Donna and little Ms. Wendi. Then she will not have her kids either. To be so educated these people are total idiots.
Well it was a lady who felt bad for her kids. Didn't want the kids to have both parents in jail.
SHAMINA I THOUGHT THRY WERE IN JAIL.
Wonder what happened to Charlie's patient that he gave vicodin to because "it's ibuprofen, not Tylenol". What kind of doctor doesn't know the makeup of frequently used medications. Vicodin is hydrocodone and acetaminophen (aka tylenol!!!). Way to go doc, total negligence!!!
Right? Whar a bafoon!!!
Omg I know !! The crazy thing is they probably could find out who it was by finding out where he was at
that time with what staff members etc …can’t think of any better word then Buffoon 🤡
Side note : How tough is he gonna be in prison ?
@@Jule7-1 hahahaha yesss 🤡
@@Jule7-1 Bafoon... LOL!! I haven't heard that word in a longggg time! Thanks for the laugh! 😂
AKA LORTAB
These phone taps are the best
The best trial ever!
It's bonkers.
@Bobby Dools My statements aren't generic and you sound like a troll so stfu. Quit being bored in quaranrine and do something with your life.
I agree and there is at least one sequel to come. Can’t wait, thank you Charlie for being a sociopath.
Higher volume needed. Fascinating story.
Interesting how he exaggerated to Katy what was said on the call to Sammy. lol
Simon**
I'm amazed Sigfredo went to right address in Tallahassee.
He's one of the smartest in this circle of criminals
@@voguelacar the one who shot the gas line out in the prius?😃 I admit he did stay quieter than the rest tho
@@marshapieroni6677 yes, that same one. Here's some of the reasons I said that: he let Luis Rivera buy the gun, rent the car, and he ditch his phone afterwards, and wasn't the one called for the money drop.
@@voguelacar He had to hush KM up on the phone a few times too.
He had the GPS in his brain, according to Luis.
No summation, thank you though 😂😂😂
"Let's play phone tap..." they were way ahead of you Charlie ;-)
It doesn't look like it to me... they're still trying to catch up, another year later, or maybe they stopped trying by now.
@@othertalk3313 True!
@@othertalk3313 Waiting for Magbanua retrial.
He can't even do this himself - call whoever it is and tell them what he told Katie to tell them! He's so useless! At everything!
The defense attorney for Garcia is No Bueno
Exactly!!
He thinks he is Jose Baez! 😂🤣
Is this Charlie’s mom speaking on this first call? Wow. Why hasn’t she been indicted way before now??
@48:04 "ILL BE THERE IN 1 MINUTE" SAYS CHARLIE. "JUST GOTTA FINISH MY CALL ABOUT THIS HOMICIDE I ORDERED REAL QUICK"
And it sounds like he says, "Without Tylenol? Vicodin has acetaminophen not Tylenol " or something to that effect. That's dangerous. He's not paying attention to what he's saying because he's busy with his co-conspirator. Vicodin has has Tylenol. Tylenol is acetaminophen
There's so much info in this wiretap.
37:16
"It's getting too detailed. It's somebody he knows for sure!"
There it is! magbanau/garcia know exactly who/what/when/where. The he in "somebody he knows..." is Luis Rivera.
And let's not ignore how badass magbanau thinks she is w/ the threats of "f'ing someone up for less". She didn't even call the undercover number. But her character or lack there of, definitely shows.
ML that’s what I’m saying. She sure is acting gangster on these calls. So..... hmmmm
I get second hand embarrassment hearing her speak lol
I think macbanawa vame up and offered the favor to C.adelson and then was told not to say where the miney came, and she went and hired du...mb and du...mber that in reality hated c.adelson, they kinda set him up. They may have pushed c.adekson to decide to go with these men that mcbanawa picked to
I see why the Undercover retired. If he was better, they would have gotten an iron clad case. Puerto Rican, New Yorker from Broward. Cops messed this up. By the way I think Katie is the Mastermind.
Not the mom?
@@carolv8450 I think the Mom is on board as well as Wendi. They had the financial means but not the street connection to get it done. I think by Charlie dating Katie he realized that she has the street connections to make it happen. By her dating Garcia she gained some street smarts. Katie is the key because she knows the entire plan and everyone that is involved. Once they get Katie, Charlie would be next. Charlie is the only one that can link his mother and Wendi. I do believe the Mom put up the money.
Profet2fr Charlie ‘lives’ on both sides of the fence, both worlds. The side of drugs and fast cars, in So Beach of Miami, and his profession of dental surgery. He is involved all the way. He knows what and who he is talking to, and what this is about. What good moral upright person would spend so much time on calls and talk, unless he is involved?
True, but Wendi, Charlie and the Mom were ALL behind it, and involved.
I agree. I thought the Feds would be better than that. Clear amateurs.
Tuco 🤣. Charlie watches Breaking Bad !!
Hrh WEW oh hell he knows the damn name. Just lying.
This judge is legit!
What a bunch of clueless criminals this is actually hilarious. The FBI are the real deal when it comes to psychology. Look at what that bump to Charlie's mom created. Katie, Charlie and Charlie's mom need to go to prison for life. Hopefully that's the way it plays out.
Wait until the documentary or movie comes out 😂
@@debifox5780 I can not wait ! 🤭
It’s actually fascinating. If they just stood back for a second and gave it some thought, they would have known that the Feds were on to them. Does a “gangster” say “reference”, or would mail a letter to a business, or when the bump happened he addressed the mom by Ms. Adelson, and said thank you after trying to extort her
Donna is a nerves reck 😅😅
This judge is sharp
Florida seems like the Wild West. So much craziness from that state.
Wow how did I miss this one. Just discovered this after he was convicted guilty.
Tato, Tuto, this is insane, shame for these murderes " I never meet these people, but let me call you back",...guilty as it is
Exhibit GG: The turning point of the trial. Charlie Adelson finally calls the number. Then everything falls apart, hanging themselves by their panicked reaction to the “bump.” The police must be having a wonderful time at this point as the telephone calls continue.
And yet no conviction for Katie, (so far), as if her using that coded language on the phone isn't evidence of guilt.
just trying to keep up with all the taps and wires is a nightmare for any attorney.
Not once do they say Pay You For What Problem?
He told Katie text the Feds number to him and she said NO I DONT WANT TO lmao. She knows she's guilty as sin and she's scared to death.
0:35 - is it 'bring your kids to work' day for the defense team? Hahahah... (guy on the right of screen)
I noticed him Too haha
What a fishing expedition.
Well Charlie you will be on a permanent “vacation” when this is all done
Can we all just agree that when Charlie says “I’m telling you … “
“Don’t worry…” “it’s nothing…” “Everything is under control…” you should indeed WORRY.
He’s completely useless at everything, despite his deep self-conviction that everything he says is 1000% accurate & correct.
🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Can not WAIT for Charlie’s trial. Entertainment PLUS!!! Little worm will probably cop a plea …
October! I can't wait either.
Charlie and Katie are made for each other, both manipulative and con artists!!
If they were not guilty I would have just told this ransom guy to F off and ignore him
Look at Garcia - dressed in a suit and tie, fresh hair cut, quality eye glass frames to make him look intelligent, he looks relaxed and healthy, does not appear worried or stressed - you would think he was some high priced attorney lol.
Yes, trying to blend in and appear (albeit for a real short time) like a contributing member of society.
😂🤣👍🏿
He has nothing more than the public pretender
Lol ...I thought the samething when he called katie from jail and she told him she was coming from the shower and he Started moaning 🤣 I was like this guy is doing life and he doesn't seem to have a care in the world.
Charlie was just arrested. And I think it's Katie's retrial started May 16.
7:50 Hahahaaha. The killers are getting stalked & messed with. BEAUTIFUL!!! This part’s like a movie. It’s the chef’s kiss.
I don't understand what C & K are trying to figure out?? The undercover agent is supposedly T's brother, right? Sooo...does said brother (well-spoken, upstate New Yorker) exist? No. End of discussion. This is a hot mess!
The Latin Kings call each other "brother".
@@my1vice Exactly! Notice how many times katie asks "did they say BROTHER?" She kept mentioning it to Charlie during the call cuz she KNOWS that the term "brother" makes a difference when trying to figure out who "Simon" is.
This is a movie waiting to happened ...
Goodness Gracious - Katie sounds SOooo Biatchy! Bossy, Controlling...
The mom knows.
Up to her eyeballs in it. What mother would plan a scheme like this with her own son? That makes it so much worse to me.
katie is smart. she knew it was the fbi from the onset. fortunately she was surrounded by not so smart people. everyone is going down, why bc, Charlie is going to talk.
there's enough to find KM guilty in her 2nd trial. with KM down shes likely to give up CA for a lighter sentence.
& Charlie, Charlie Charlie ... smh. Charlie is going to squeal like a baby.
there's going to be so much tears on the witness stand you could drown.
Exactly; still amazing that Katie won't flip when they offered her immunity, especially since she has been away from her kids all this time. I guess she won't flip unless and until she is convicted. The money she is getting or promised and another possible hung jury must be more important than being with her kids since she's been in jail.
Hope you’re right.
Ready to see it all!
@@stefdelarge8667 Her first question was "how many times did the phone ring?". Very insightful, that would be typical of an FBI agent scrambling together the recording devices and script outline.
Km and Charlie r the perfect couple… both never shut-up.. both gonna be in prison for life… go to the cops Katie..lmao
What a waste of time. Everyone sounds guilty of something. If I were on the jury I'd be bored to tears after all those phone calls.
Charlie did not remember that conversation with the unknown man verbatim at all!
Maybe all those drugs he has taken in the past has affected his memory!
Lol...he messed up that phone call real bad
lol - i loved how after she got sick of charlie she started berating him like she did with garcia.
The defence lawyer is driving me mad.interupting every minute and I think the Judge is sick of him too
I don't understand how this many people could be ok with killing her ex husband.
Her freeking PARENTS?!!! Come on.
No evidence CA father is involved. There is some suggestion from the wire taps that he found out after the ‘bump’ and was not pleased.
The mother assisting her own son with the murder of her son on law is something that's hard to take
They should of done it themselves, they probably wouldnt of been caught. Too many people involved and then they talk over the phone.
Ol Charlie is trying to make his mother feel better by his repeating mantra of “don’t worry.” It is he, himself, trying to calm HIS nerves and fear.
At 1:51, why is the (lawyer, I guess)? on the far right-hand side sitting or slumping so low in the chair?
I hear two people who are not as smart as they think they are 😮
I will say, Charlie is much more even tempered than I imagined. He is very collected and doesn’t fly off the handle like I thought he would.
I just don't know how Katie got a hung jury in her first trial
It still boggles my mind. I think it was one juror felt sorry for her because the children were losing both parents
He wanted to blame his innocent brother .
Katie said she was going to police 😂😂🤣😂yeah right
It’s only a matter of time now for the family. Her husband was found guilty and she’s probably going to cut a deal.
She should have
This didn't age well
@@ajordan1976 she did cut a deal
@@ceedee566 Katy was offered but she didn't take any
@@ceedee566 are we talking about Katie or Wendy?
Wendy had protection for testifying. Anything she says in this trial couldn't be used against her.
Katie refused multiple offers.
Just not sure who we're talking about.