How to Change a MOTORCYCLE CLUTCH | How to check for clutch drag | Yamaha Fz6 S2
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
- In this video I run throw removing and reinstalling a motorcycle clutch. I also have my thoughts on the new clutch after as well as some information on how to check your clutch is operating correctly. I hope you find this video helpful and if you do please like and subscribe :)
I installed EBC CKseries clutch friction plates, standard replacement metal plates and EBC heavy duty springs in place of the factory stuff.
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Let me know if this helped you take on a clutch! It's really not too bad to do :)
Love the content lad but I'm an awkward man I tend to leave these things to lads like yourself I tend to break things haha
Thank you! :) Haha no hassle honestly these videos are as much to show people if they want to tackle or not. :) They're fiddly enough to be fair
Great video. Exactly what I was looking for!!! Thank you for saving me from taking it to a shop
Thanks! Glad I could help :)
Easier to set up than the Mk1 fazer clutch - finding the 'sweet spot' of adjustment on them is a pig - great vid Thanks for sharing your expeririences
Yeah in fairness it's a slick setup if I ever had to do it again I'd have it done in no time :) thanks Ponk :)
Not only it, but you're class also 🤩 I do find myself liking that bike more and more watching your channel, though.
Haha thanks you are too :P
I'm telling ya man get a spin on one of you can they're such a good all rounder!
That's like the first day of school: all class! :)
The ZX-14R has a monster clutch assembly. Thankfully, it's hydraulically assisted, but it also means a different method is used to adjust it. I'm going to be upgrading the oil pump on my bike towards the end of the year and will have to pull the clutch apart to do it. I hope I can muster the patience you had to record the process and edit it into a cohesive video. :) One thing about the EBC plates is that they will resist heat fading & glazing much better than OEM.
Haha yes we also use the term differently :P
I would imagine it has to be huge to hold that beast :) That'd be really cool to see to be honest so I hope you manage to keep patience and record it :) Definitely! The stock plates weren't great at all tbh! Fairly worn when I took them out but they lasted well!!
What could happen if you put the plates back in the wrong order..?
Didn't know about the checking for clutch drag! Must test out the MT later on! :)
Great install man, I still watched even though I probably won't do it myself but I'd say it'll help a good few people!
THAT WAS *CLASSSSSS*!
It'd work...maybe but really really badly 😂😂 there ya go lad gorilla teachings 😂😂
Thanks :) sure if you ever want to to he done let me know it's another video :P
It was fun too :P
Very well done brother, this video should be helpful to a lot of people, good job, ride safe and ride easy Brother 💯✌️😎
Thanks man :) hopefully it helps someone :) you too !
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Very well presented mate. Hope you cleanup that oil spill 😉
Thank you :) haha of course! Have to mind the shed floor!
Screaming wizz bomb Class, good vid mate. My primary and I have a special relationship, it hates me and makes me disassemble it every 5k or so, the upside is I can do it blindfolded :)
Nothing like a 4 cylinder flat out 😂 hahaha it was only training you sure 😂 honestly I'd pay to see you do it blindfolded :)
1:00 You should use some piece of carton or plastic under oil drain hole to not let the exhaust be splashed with oil.
Nah did it for years and it never hurt anything. I made a metal thing to block it but could never find it. Such is life.
OMG, great tip on the dowl pins....I've dropped one before and thank god for magnets.🤦♂️ Is that the stock basket or have you replaced in the past? The dot line up is important, I've also made that mistake to! 🤦♂️ Again a great tip on putting the dowl pins in the case to help hold the gasket! 👍 I don't know about the fazer and well all bikes in general but I use to be really religious about keeping the bolts in order because of the variation in size, some case covers can have 3 different length bolts. Then I realized (watched a video with a tip) that it didn't matter because when they bottom out in the case they should all be sticking out the same amount, so if you put a long bolt in a short hole it's pretty obvious and vice versa. After that tip I stopped caring about keeping them in order. One time, I had them all lined up after removing a case cover, then I bumped them by accident and almost fainted in frustration. This is of course before i figured out it didn't matter.
CZcams did not show me this yesterday for some reason! Super weird!
Thanks man :) it's the stock basket! Haha I tried to make sure I got all the common mistakes in there so people wouldn't make my mistakes 😂
Haha man I was the exact same for so long until I was working with a buddy who is a mechanic and I'd lined everything up all neatly and he just started grabbing bolts without looking. I nearly had a heart attack and he just laughed. So now I'm like you I just don't care cus it doesn't matter 😂
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Nicely done. It clearly shows that I will be paying some other fucker to do this when the time comes!!
Thank you :) nah you could definitely do it :P I'll fly over and sort it just pay for flights :P
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Indeed 😁😁
This is the sort of work that scares me 😂. I feel like if my dumb ass did this it would chew it's self up when I ride it again 😬😂
Haha the only way to learn is to do it tbh :) if you take you're time it'll be grand. The main thing is take you time .... Never rush something like a clutch :)
dont mind doing bike clutches as the majority of them are so easy to do, cars on the other hand can be a pita, old landrovers are even worse 2 options, have a military version with bolt on cross member (i have this) or take out the interior.... other wise you cant get the gearbox and such moved to get the new plate in.
think the easiest car was a vauxhall/opel from the 90s that had a drop in clutch like a cassette you just wacked in and out dont think they caught on either......
yes that was fun :P
Oh man cars are so much worse!! My Saab needs a clutch and I'm just refusing to do it!
See that'd make sense, probably weren't making enough money form them so stopped!
Haha it was
@@TheGorillaBiker you can do my landy clutch and I will do your saab lol
Yeah probably didnt make enough money from them, was the easiest clutch I ever did tho, couple of nuts a little bit of faffing and drop the fresh one in, Complete unit in bolt up and adjust.
Grand week ahead for it, too...
Haha no deal 😂😂😂 I know how bad they are! It's a pity cus things should be modular like that in my opinion we'd be able to reduce and reuse a lot more then!
I wish I could get out for long spins :(
@@TheGorillaBiker :P my first one wasnt a ex military so i had to take out the seats, seat base and floor panels to do the clutch...
its such a shame we have such great weather and corona... cant even go to a safe place within my limits to have a dip in the sea.
by the time its expanded range i bet the weather wont be as good.
i think its going to be a good weather year aswell the way its going....
Nice pull BTW! It was class. Hope I used that correctly!
Thanks 😁😁 haha you used it perfectly just substitute it for awesome or great and you'll be right most of the time!
@@TheGorillaBiker That's pretty much what I figured but you never know! You did say "most" of the time..🤔
Haha if you says class kind of deadpan in a sarcastic way it means it's really not class at all 😂
@@TheGorillaBiker That makes sense..👍
Class video man il have a better idea on how to do my own which needs doing soon id say
Thanks bud! Just take your time and you'll be grand :)
After years of assembly at Caterpillar, my paws are also calibrated 😎🤣👨🔧
Haha it's a very useful talent :P
Good job on the video. How long did it take to change out the clutch plates including the rework after mistakes? I want to make sure I set aside enough time to complete the job.
Thanks! Ehhh probably 2 hours in total but that included messing with cameras so that should be loads. Make sure you factor in cooling down time if you had the bike started the plates stay hot a bit
Finally....that is all.
Yeah yeah shup you :P
Great video.
Thank you!
Hi, great video, well done, not sure if it is a problem but clutch in my 2007 fz6 only engages in the very end, it also feels like small knock when engaged, is that normal or does it need to be looked at?? Thanks Adam
Have you just changed it? By the very end do you mean when you nearly have the lever released? That'd be correct! Is the knock very loud even when your riding?
Clutch hasnt been changed yet, its 2007 fz6 with 22k on the clock, clutch engages with small knock type sound on the first gear only, when i ride it i cannot hear any knocks, or lets say only when dropping a gear and close the throttle too fast. Thanks for response.
That sounds fine to me, the fazers were always clunky going in to first, a lot of bikes are :) Once it's not slipping and feels good Id say you're fine :)
@@TheGorillaBiker much appreciate your help. Thanks!
No problem :)
Hey bro hope you can help. I have a hyosung gt650r. It drags too much on traffic lights when the engine is hot. And won’t go to neutral and 1st three gears are very hard. When the engine is OFF the gears are very smooth.
Be impossible to tell really without seeing it. Check your cable is adjusted correctly when the engine is hot, and if you can check the conditions of your clutch plates, might just be time to change them.
Also what can cause clutch drag is a worn clutch basket itself, so worth popping it open and checking everything really. No harm in dropping it to a mechanic to have a look if it's really bad.
Hi mate. In the ebc clutch kit were there 2 friction plates different to the rest or where they all the same. As the manual says there should be 6 brown plates and 2 purple ones and the purples ones should be installed as the inner and the outer friction plates?
Nope all the same colour in the kit, all were the same on my bike as well as they came out and I didn't have anything in my manual that suggested different colours.
Did you use a Haynes manual?
Nope original service manual pdf.
greetings from croatia, maybe you can help me with advice on my yamaha phaser 600 2009 when changing gears, you hear too strong metal shocks and the engine jerks to put in the first one, tomorrow it will be a bit better and then bad again so I keep adjusting the cable when he’s in gear and can’t always stop him with a foot like you, can something be gained by changing just the springs
That's actually normal for first gear on the fazers it's a hefty clank into first. How old is your clutch pack? The springs actually keep the clutch engaged so it's possible yours are too strong! Could definitely change them out for OEM springs to see does it help.
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I know the first one, but he claps very hard when he goes from the first to the second, sometimes in the third, very much whose and when he goes from the third to the second, he crossed 40,000,
thanks anyway
Hmm yes that is strange, one thing I'd say to check is the position of the clutch release, when you're putting back on the clutch cover there is a dot that should line up on the clutch release I showed it in this, if it has been removed ever I'd try realign that as it sounds like you're just not releasing the clutch at all. It would also be worth inspecting the plates themselves too, they could be sticking
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That. i think the boards could be glued, the first owner didn't maintain the engine well, thanks a lot
No problem
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How many clutch plate to install bro?
I can't remember I made this video ages ago sorry! I think I say it in the video tho. If you buy a kit it'll come as a pack anyway!.
Nice job 👌
Thanks
Hey Man. I have had trouble with nothing EXCEPT putting the clutch cover back on. I made sure that the dots are lined up on the clutch pull arm and I made sure that the teeth on the spline in the middle of the pressure plate are facing the rear of the bike but once buttoning it back up the clutch cable has absolutely 0 tension or springiness to it (Im sure that its not the cable or adjustment). It feels as if the cable is not even there. I feel those teeth start to pull the cover but I am having no luck. I am able to push that clutch arm by hand (and I know that usually it is not supposed to be that light).
Any ideas on what I am doing wrong when putting the cover on. Thanks in advance.
I would say you're the same as I was the first time I ever did a clutch, hopefully a small thing. Firstly make sure you check the dots are also aligned on the clutch basket.
Assuming that's correct check the alignment on the clutch pull arm once the cover is in place and right, I'd be willing to bet they no longer are, if they're not that's you're issue. Same thing happened to me, all it is is the actuator is rolling on the teeth so you end hope at the incorrect home, all you need to do is start the alignments way off when it'd going on, more advanced like and it'll roll itself back out, it's a bit of a faff and trial and error but once the cover is seated and tight those dots should align between the cover and arm. If they're not you'll never get tension or spring into the cable.
You should still be able to pull that arm by hand once it is seated correctly it should just have a bit of force to it! :)
Hopefully that's all it is!
@@TheGorillaBiker Ill keep giving it a try. I had reached a point where the cover was on, the lever looked light it was in the right position, but the actual pressure plate is not being pulled atl all. I look through the oil fill whole and I see that rod moving but I don't see the pressure plate being pulled. Additionally the cable has absolutely 0 resistance. The cable is like being hooked up to thin air- and does not even spring back.
Ah ok also make sure the teeth on the little rod are mating to the actual lever itself. I don't think it fits in without them lined up. It honestly sounds exactly like when I had the arm in the wrong position. I wouldn't lose hope yet anyway!! So when you're putting on the cover just start with the arm pushed in even further than you think you need and it should help then :)
@@TheGorillaBiker Ill give is a try today, thanks for responding so quickly. One last question- are you supposed to be able to move the arm and separate the pressure plate with your hand (thumb) or is the final, correct result too hard and need the cable to pull it?
I ask because there was a point when I got the cover to go on and the arm was rock solid. (which is how I remember it before doing this job) [I had tried to move the arm in the past with my hand but it was too stiff]. Unfortunately when I went to pull the clutch that time the end of the clutch cable snapped off haha.
No problem!
You can move it by hand yes, or should be able to anyway but it is very stiff by hand in comparison to your lever. It definitely shouldn't be immovable anyway, that'd suggest something is stuck or incorrect, if there's any other way I can help let me know :)
You know stuff.
Only sometimes :)
@@TheGorillaBiker Ahh you do. Mr engineer.
Haha yeah but I'm talentless when it comes to art and music and such. I'd like to be good at that stuff 😂
@@TheGorillaBiker We can't have it all brother. I wish I was fit and strong but I'm not. I wish I was good at marketing my music and stuff but I'm not. I wish I had a big... well that's far enough.
True enough bud :) man keep lashing out your music you'll get there :) haha don't we all....well....except the lucky one 😂😂
Remember kids, dispose of oil properly. Your nearest body of water should work nicely!
Haha no no you got it wrong. Drink it to ensure smooth operations of your joints
I need that, I'm getting old yknow ;(
Drink some old engine oil so 😂