Knife Expert Guesses Cheap vs. Expensive Knives | Price Points | Epicurious
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- In this episode of 'Price Points', Epicurious challenges knife expert Geoff Feder to guess which knife is more expensive. Feder breaks down paring knives, chef knives, boning knives, and serrated knives. For each type, the connoisseur looks at and tests each knife before guessing which knife costs more. Once the prices are revealed, Feder explains why a specific knife costs more and dives into specifics on how each knife is made.
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Sure... which is more expensive? The kitchen knife or the valyrian steel sword forged by the last of the Targaryen blood line? I wonder
Lol thought the exact same thing 😂
Sending this comment to my bf and sister. Theyre big GOT fans 😂😂
burn them all
@@phant0m0th_ are they still fans?...
Forged in dragon fire.
He did not eat the knifes, how will he truly know the quality?
Hes saving it for the african children
Knightmare Gaming was...was that a pun?
@@bailey9947 how
¿Mystery? Cause a knife has a point
@@marleyabd1729 that's a pun, but can't see how Knightmare Gaming reply was a pun
too bad they ran out of time, I was really looking forward to seeing which is more expensive between the diamond-encrusted vorpal sword and the butterknife they've been using since the 80's
What'd the sauce to your pfp please if you don't mind >3>
@@scottwales5966 i don't think the original page exists anymore but the artist is "Tentabat" and the character is "Peridot" from "Steven Universe"
@@scottwales5966 okay the artist is still "tentabat" though
vorpal sword? nerd. also... since I understood the reference... so I guess... never mind never heard of a vorpal sword. ya nerd.
Glad I'm not the only one who noticed
I love how one knife is from some kind of limited collector's edition made in Japan and decked out in fancy metals while the other one was fished out of the dollar bin at walmart.
i was hoping they would give him a 100 dollar knife and a 200 dollar knife of familiar and different construction and see if he could figure it out, but instead they give him 60- 3000 dollars.
Even the cheap ones are not from the 1$ bin att Walmart. Victorynox and Fiskars make good knives.
@@andvil01 one knife was $4. If that’s the retail price, it definitely could be on clearance at Walmart for a dollar.
@@choreomaniac I recognized the cheap knives om the handles. I have one of both. Cheap working knives, but from real brands. Often used in professional kitchens. If you are lucky you might find them on sale, but they are much better than the normal junk you'll find in the $1-bin.
@@andvil01 how much would a 4 dollar knife be on sale? 2 dollars?
Are you really saying it’s improbable for a $2 knife to be in a $1 knife bin? Really? Lots of good brands go on clearance because the change models or produced too much or tastes change. Selling a $4 for $1 is entirely within the realm of reality.
I appreciate that he doesn't crap on the cheap knives, he actually acknowledges that they are practical and worth picking up. Great video
It's always nice to see a professional appreciate the budget option.
Budget is usually always going to be better in terms of knives for the average person just because if you aren't a knife enthusiast (I'm big into pocket knives, not really kitchen knives) you aren't going to know how to sharpen a super steel like S30V for instance. Meanwhile, for the budget knives, you'll usually be getting something like 6CrMoV which is a cheap, and great steel, but also really soft so you only need to pass it through one of those pocket grinders they sell a few times to bring it back up to shape. S30V is going to stay sharp for a while out of the factory, but when it starts getting dull, the average person isn't going to realize you either need a belt sander, or the patience to sharpen the sucker down for a few hours if you want to get it back up to peak performance (not to mention how expensive stones and sandpaper can add up to be).
Jason Hartman yeah often professionals can come across snobby but he in some cases preferred the cheaper option
Some of those so called "budget" knives were pretty damn expensive. So no, of course he's not going to crap on a $33 knife. Now a $3 knife? Yeah that's a different story. I like value, my wife hates shopping with me because I spend a little extra time evaluating my purchase. I don't always get the cheapest or the most expensive, I get the best value. Example: Save-A-Lot dip 1st ingredient is sour cream, Kraft is soybean oil. Frisch's Big Boy Ranch is $4 for a small jar but contains natural ingredients. This method applies to food, tools, cars, electronics, you name it. Sometimes cheap is great, sometimes you have to reach a little deeper into your pockets.
@@Stacy_Smith But he liked that 4 dollar knife...
You didn't even tried to find knives that are similar but differs in quality. One looks all fancy and the other looks like it came straight from Walmart
Like, If you're gonna bring a Damascus knife, at least bring two of those. Jesus
Bro, it's about the knowledge he gave us, not about the "game"
It's like this every episode. The difference is always super obvious.
Interesting that the more practical knife for the job isnt always the expensive one. You can get a good workhorse knife for a reasonable price
It's very obvious, but I would l live to see some that were closer looking/priced and I would love to see Damascus vs damascus
Gold knife bound in wood from the tree of knowledge vs plastic knife with Garfield on the handle.
“Hmm, I can’t tell, let’s take a closer look.”
*massive camera zoom and sound affects*
💀💀💀
'Murican TV in a nutshell 😂
The way he defined "stainless", made me re-think words like mirthless, limitless, bottomless and bloodless.
Useless
don't be fateless
Well if you think about it again, bottomless wouldn't really change. A structure, like a pit, can only have one lowest point, or bottom. So even one less bottom means there's no bottom left at all. Unless you would then say that the next-lowest point would simply become the NEW bottom, which is also a valid argument. Kind of depends if you would consider "bottom" a concept or a microstructure I suppose...
Yeah, I never thought about it in that way
My das used to call me d--less. But I knew it wasn’t completely true
This would be more impressive if one knife didn’t look like it was handcrafted by a sword master in Japan, while the cheap knife looked like it was picked up at a truck stop. I would have been able to do this game too.
JosephandElissa Flores It could have been a trick though
Yeah like the Kramer.
The thing is you most likely wouldn’t be able to explain why one knife is more expensive than the other
Most of it boils down to, "This cheap knife doesn't have a full tang, and the handle is plastic." Just saying that would have taken care of a huge amount of the explanation. This video just wasn't as good as the chocolate expert one.
i agree but i think the point of the video was in the info you get about good knifes
Whoever did that chalk art in the background is the real mvp.
Her name is Ro Knight and they did a video about it.
Every video has this kind of comment
Totally agree
czcams.com/video/3yec_Gc5JiM/video.html. Here's the video about the artist
Next level
I love how he also points out the practical advantages of the cheaper knives, like with the boning knife
The Victorinox Fibrox pro knife line (the cheap pairing and boning knives) screams expendable and effective all at once.
"I'm going to explain what Damascus is."
Me: Buckles up seatbelt.
Actually came to the comment section to see if Mr Big Brains commented - "that's not true damascus.... blah blah"
@@tomrobinson4935 it's not tho 🤔
@@ilikewaffles3689 it is still damascus though
@@ilikewaffles3689 He clearly says "This is pattern-welded steel" So technically, he is very correct. In the world of chefs that I know, it is regularly accepted as a Damascus knife (notice how I say "knife", not "steel") amongst chefs that do buy them. Whether or not it's a "Damascus steel" knife is another issue - and the host never says it's a Damascus steel knife, he talks about the Damascus pattern mostly because he mentions its "pattern-welded steel."
TLDR: Its still a Damascus Knife - and it may not be 100% Damascus Steel, but he never said that.
@@Pepingco I don't understand why we have to dance around this subject. It's widely accepted to call pattern welded steel Damasucs steel as 'ture' Damasucs steel is called wootz damascus. It's not a scam as people may think when commenting that it isn't Damasucs. Modern steel is better quality anyway.
“You brought a Damascus knife?! ...Alright that’s where we’re going..”
With an amazing comment like that he should have just lifted up A’s pricing, pushed aside B and just gone on a 1 hour tirade about how he is going to court the knife over the next few years and marry it.
Simply amazing 😂 loved this guy
I would protect that knife with my life. That was just straight up gorgeous.
He and the Damascus knife actually did marry, they live in a little suburb outside of Chicago and have three children two of which are in high school and the third started his undergraduate studies at Brown University this year.
lmao I bet that hurt
IMHO I've never had a Damascus blade for use in my kitchen. I've worn Damascus blades when I wear full Scottish garb & Regalia. People that know me understand that my kilts are handsewn & hand woven understand that I will NOT compromise on Quality. I do wear something that is not perfectly accurate. My kilt pin is not in the traditional Sterling or Pewter. It is a REPRODUCTION of a BROOCH from the 13th Century. It is made of the EXACT materials as the one in the British Museum. Their gift offers REPLACAS of this brooch in their gift shop. Those items are < £ 25. Plated metal w/ simulated stones. Mine is an EXACT copy made from 21K plus Gold authentic Sapphires and Rubies. The price is well over £ 8000.
to be fair you can get damascus knives for less than carbon steel knives. Shun knives are less expensive than the 350$ knife
Let's see if he can pick the expensive knife. **Puts down a Kramer vs a grocery store knife** Amazing! He did it!
XD but nothing against Geoff
He's a nice dude 😂
I legit thought the exact same thing every time they brought two out
I think the point of this video is not to tell if a knife is expensive or not but more tell WHY they have different price tags and what to look for when you want to buy one :-)
@@---Michael--- yeah but this show isn't just to show off his price awareness it's also to teach people about knives.
He even had that vibe like "IIIII DON'T KNOW... WE GOTTA CHECK THE PRICE, what you know this one is more. "
“6-7 inches is all you need for a boning... knife”
😂
You want it to be a little bit more stiff, but looking at these they look a little more flexible.
That’s what she said.
"You want it to be a little bit stiff"
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° )
This guy: held at knife point
Also him: That knife is not great for peeling skin, you will need a thinner and larger knife with the exquisite material imported from India. Whoops here’s my butcher knife, the perfect thing.
Hahaha
"You brought a Damascus knife? Ok, that's where we're going" Seeing the wtf look on his face was priceless 😂
Knife A is a titanium knife infused with crystals. It has a diamond handle with emerald inlays and the whole thing has been coated in gold and personally signed by all the founding fathers.
Knife B is a plastic knife that came in a pack of 100 from Walmart.
TenTonNuke Meh, a titanium knife has a fair few set backs compared to steel
Hmmm... I’ll go with the pack of 100. More bang for your buck.
I'm pretty sure A is more expensive, but we have to look at the cards to be sure.
TenTonNuke Accurate lol
TenTonNuke HAHAHA
You have to love how he showed respect to all the knives no matter the knife
He might even go as far as to say that.... all knives matter?
@@Rathabflying I respect you.
If you don't, they bite back. Lol.
I really like the fact that all the experts so far from what I've seen were very respectful even to the cheaper choices and were able to explain the differences so a layman can understand them. Be it the whiskey expert or the meat expert, they all respected the cheaper options saying that they're just great for less-special occasions. Shows that they're actual experts and not some entitled douches.
He had soo much raw sexual energy towards the Damascus Steel knife
well yeah anyone that is into knives busts a fat one when they see a nice knife like that
It is a shame that original damascus process is forgotten
@@papasauce234 true I kinda swooned
Pattern welded steel and Damascus steel are not the same thing. The method for producing the characteristic grain structure is completely different.
John Doe the original Damascus steel technique is unknown.
8:08 "It doens't need to be too long, 6 inches or 7 inches is all you need for boning."
I knew someone would say this 😂
Much agreed!
@@lightningcat6382 take it or leave it
DL
😳!!! Hmm!!! From your own experiences....I presume???
you want it to be a little bit stiff
Yeah it’s easy to tell which one looks cheaper but it’s difficult to explain why. This guy clearly knows his craft and does a great job explaining.
His hands tell the story of how many times knives turned against him through the years
No doubt!
“Today we compare a bag of garbage to a gold bar, let’s see which one is more expensive...”
there's only one way to be sure....
Fun fact: The bag of garbage contains two discarded gold bars.
sabin97 C L O S E R L O O K
But seriously
One mans junk is another mans treasure. I would take the bag of garbage
An expert doesn't only equal being able to identify what is more expensive, or cheap, but being able to explain the processes for its pricing, utility, and how there's a time and place for every product.
the info about processes and little nuances are what I like about these expert videos!
Hes not even right on cheaper paring knife. Its injection molded plastic not poured...
Brandon - yeah thats also true
I love how he gives off the vibe that the cheaper ones are better for everyday
long story short... When it says "Made In Japan" it's the most expensive
Not necessarily but you’ve got the right idea
@@alberthernandez8777 yeah well pretty much, obviously other than the Damascus beauty, if it’s Japan vs China, I’m betting on Japan.
I demand he tastes the knives like all the other experts did. What the hell makes this guy so special?
"This knife is sorta plastically and this knife is more metallic so I think this knife is more expensive"
daAnder71 ....
daAnder71 🤦♂️ he was being sarcastic
daAnder71 r/whooosh
See, the problem is that he may die.
Whoever's doing these murals in the background is amazing
alix SIVs Its all right, knives are on the easier side and metal is easy to shade, especially on a chalk board
His hands look like he is a knife expert, surely
Everytime he runs his fingers through the knife to point at specific areas, my spine tingles
I like how he doesn't exactly push people away from the cheaper knives. Both cheap and expensive knives have their utility, and for someone who is an expert to not also be elitist is refreshing.
Almost all of the experts in tuis series are like that. Sure they know which has better quality but they acknowledge that cheaper stuff are still useful.
Yeah its something I really like about this series-- I remember the ice cream lady even commented she liked on of the cheaper ones better (after correctly guessing the more expensive one)
Heck, this guy was basically outright saying the cheap one was the way to go in most of the comparisons, which makes perfect sense.
Someone who actually works in a kitchen is going to have knives break, get lost, or just plain wear out on a regular basis thanks to using them hundreds of times more than a home chef. They want good, solid hardware at a price they won't cry over when it comes time to replace it, not a fine masterpiece that they have to take out a loan to afford. Good enough is good enough.
Lost In The Aether- agreed. You get better tools as you learn to appreciate, use, and maintain them. I have a Wustoff Icon and also a $15 kitchen knife; both get used a lot in our kitchen, but for larger tasks like carving a turkey, a good knife with a fresh sharp edge is a joy to use, IMO.
totally agree with this comment.
And I would say he does it more than any of the other experts I have seen in this series. I like him.
To everyone knocking his unmanicured hands: Geoff Feder makes knives for a living and those are the hands of a craftsman, not a Kardashian. That said, he’s probably as proud of every nick and callous as Kimmy is of her sparkling nails.
Jeredan Surgeon Do you forge knives?
Jeredan Surgeon “Name calling isn’t cool, keep it civil.”
His nails aren't unkempt. They're full on dirty. Wash your hands bro, those are food instruments.
Who has the time to notice a dudes finger nails??? Who cares if they aren’t fully clean. Don’t make fun of a brilliant guy just because he doesn’t take care of one little tiny part of his body
@@wiadabaybitzahboi7786 Its not dirty it's from the smallest steel particles that go into your skin for a long time when you work with metal forging/tooling. It isn't really washable and it goes away slowly as your skin sheds if you stop working with metal
"This knife will keel" the epicurious episode
This was very easy to guess but I loved the host, cool guy and his enthusiasm about the Damascus knife was priceless. Absolutely beautiful knife btw..
Regular knife vs Breadslicer, Blade of the Undying
Bongo Undrying?
@@appa609 unbuying
this one was sorta easy to figure out though. but I appreciate the guys knowledge and him geeking out on the Damascus blade.
I'll cut my tits off
Susan Baker please do
It was interesting though how he didnt really bash on the cheap knifes and even seemed to prefer a cheaper knife. He gave great arguments how price isn't everything and that a good knife can be cheap. Great explainations
It's more about educating the viewers than fooling the person on screen i think
+LazilyAmbitious
Definitely. It doesn't take a knife expert to see which of these is more expensive- or how price fails to determine their practical value. Honestly, the expensive paring knife and boning knife look like a pain to work with. I like my $6 parer a lot, and neither of the two shown here looked as nice to hold as it.
What I like that he hit on is the balance between utility and cost. If it's so expensive that you worry about using it, then it's an art piece--not a tool.
"yeah. That's more." Cracks me up Every. Single. Time
I think people are kinda taking this series the wrong way. It's not about fooling the expert, but teaching the veiwer.
If they had showed two knives that were only a dollar difference, we wouldn't actually get all that much out of his analysis cause their the same thing.
Ya ive noticed that
But at the same time it's obvious he doesn't work in a kitchen. Stop talking about it if you haven't done it. I.E. if I bring a knife to a kitchen nobody is gonna touch it but me.
But it could be a little closer, not some 4 dollar chinese knife ffs
It is obvious, though, that he makes knives professionally, and has done so for quite a long while based on how ragged his hands are.
You would most certainly learn MORE if there were a close comparison of two cheap knives, two mid-range knives and two 'keep in a glass case' knives. It really wasn't necessary to have the same 'flaws' explained three times when we could have dug deeper if they gave him the chance.
I like that he reinforces that the expensive knives are not always the most practical or most actively useful knives.
I appreciated that too. The cost for knives (and most products) is because of the craftsmanship. It doesn't mean higher performance or more durability, and often it means the opposite.
@Nori
He said it best with the serrated knife comparison. This knife is practical. This one? "This... is awesome". Knives can be not just a tool, but a collector's item.
I can really sense the enthusiasm he has for the Damascus knife. Not just in his voice but in his face as well
"Now For The Taste Test"
The video is supposed to be about the price but I think the real conclusion we can get from it is that what defines knives is not only the cost or how they look. Mr. Feder makes the case for cheaper but functional knives, and that's great!
Yeah that's the real takeaway for sure.
As a guessing game, the choices were puzzling though since the differences are so obvious that even a total amateur could have guessed them.
You could find knives that look very close to the expensive ones for
"Yeah, that's more..." lol
The differences were so blatant that him being so reserved about it kind of detracted from the video; I barely know anything about knives and I could almost immediately tell with each set. They should have picked closer knives.
Munashiimaru I think they were trying to be more informative. So people could tell why this is more expensive than that.
200 knives for only $20, only on the Knife Show. ;)
Munashiimaru its so funny for example the first 2 it clearly said on a made in japan this video is a joke
That one's designed by Bob Krammer; no wonder it's expensive. :V
“6 to 7 inches is all you really need for boning”
Me, 2.5 inches: 😡😡😡
I am very sorry for your genetic legacy, short dickedness runs through your line
I love how passionate this guy gets about that one knife. I do share his sentiments. Using a good knife to cook with is like driving in a McLaren super car vs driving in a hatchback 80s Mazda car.
You guys should start the video with a timelapse of the chalk illustration in the background being drawn.
Colin Becker 😂😂😂😂😂
Colin Becker yes! Do it!!!!
Probably a green screen and some stock vectors, but i hope I'm wrong
Edit: I was wrong :) czcams.com/video/3yec_Gc5JiM/video.html
stfu, they already showed a video of Ro Knight their chalkboard artist
Renan Le Caro No, they have an artist that draws it for them.
for some reason i lost it on: "the thing with stainless steel is that its stain-less not stain-never"
bc when you hear the suffix less, you think that it doesn't do that; it is without, like how priceless is without a price (as you cannot put a price on it) but he's saying that stainless steel knives still stain
I think he meant that he found it hilarious, not that he was confused
Raxacorico
**insert morgan freeman "he's right you know" meme here*
Helloandhaveaniceday it was funny because you'd never hear someone use 'never' as a suffix.
Nucleargamer I don't know if you're still confused BTW but he meant it can still stain even thought its advertised that it never stains
4:16 I'm guessing they told him to not mention the Bob Kramer rivet on the handle which would be the deadest of giveaways lmao. I'm assuming since he's an expert he recognized that immediately.
What I've learned: if it's got studs on it, it's expensive
My favorite part about this guy is that he's recommending the cheaper knife, because it's replaceable and a good deal...
Stephanie Morgan yeah he doesn’t dog the fibrox handle as they are incredibly durable and serve a purpose. As a pro chef I never use my $400 blade in the kitchen. The Tojiro Gyuto at $60 is my daily workhorse chef blade.
Yeah.. as a person with a lot of knives, you can get a surprisingly good knife for 20 bux.. henckels makes some extremely good budget knives.
@nLK there were 2 knives with fibrox handles from victorinox though, both are workhorses. surprised that someone with a lot of knives din know that. also henckels cheaper series have rubbish steel just to earn housewife money with the brand
Javier Hernandez not if it’s your passion
greatwhiteprivilege Molded handles are superior for commercial kitchens, since you can't really sterilize full tang knives.
You also receive far more shock from a full tang knife.
There's a reason why Swords were never full tang, despite midieval kitchen knives clearly demonstrating they had the technology.
I love how Geoff plays along and doesnt just say, well, that's a Bob Kramer Carbon Steel chef knife lol.
Between Two Forks I was gonna say. All the nice knives have the branding right on them.
Lol right... He recognized that emblem... What knife enthusiasts wouldn't
Geoff is a good dude and an amazing bladesmith. 😊
I like how he didn’t come down on the cheaper knives and actually used an unbiased perspective as well as explaining the practicality of them. Great video
Honestly, most of the cheaper knives, weren't that cheap.
Alternate Video Title:
Vince Vaughn's stunt double explains why cheap knives are cheap.
This guy was hilarious. Wish you made it somewhat of a challenge for him though, I think he wished you did too.
I think this series is less about making it harder for the expert to guess, and more about having an expert educate the public on what goes into the craft and what differentiates a knife that has work put into it, compared to a cheap, replaceable knife.
Yeah Geoff is a cool dude
He does a podcast called "knifetalk" together with two other incredibly talented guys. Definitely worth listening I never missed an episode
His instagram is @federknives
@@sp4rtan148 Should have maybe had a knife C that is more similar to Knife A but less or more expensive so we get both
This guy is the kinda guy to geek about his work to his wife when he gets home
And it makes i so fun to watch
That description makes me think of 'Hank Hill' from 'King of the Hill'. That man is passionate about his propane.
oh dang they brought out the damascus knife, he's having a knife-gasm
Expense isn't everything, but this video doesn't make that distinction ambiguous.
As others have said, this video deserves praise for not dismissing cheap knives offhandedly. The fact is that most of us want something that gets the job done and is cheap to replace. That said, the contrasts here are a little ridiculous. It's pretty clear even to someone with little expertise which knife is the superior at a single glance as I'm sure it was to this expert who, gamely embraced the premise and explained why gold is not dross in spite of the immediately glaringly obvious indications.
I love this guy's enthusiasm. Not the most difficult comparisons, it seems like, but he provides such great and useful information. You can really tell he loves his job and these knives. Great knife nut analysis!
Forge Thought and he still tries to sell the obviously less expensive knives, so it isnt just a boring obvious game for the viewers
Yeah I loved hearing him talk but why make the comparisons so obvious when this guy could tell the difference between a premium brand knife and a counterfeit, or a knife that is masterfully created vs. a knife that just LOOKS expensive? All of the cheap knives looked cheap.
+👽 inevitable vegan future 👽: Agreed. I also would have liked to've seen a bit more commentary on the quality and sharpness of the edges (not just the different grinding styles).
I hope they gave this guy the $3,100 knife. Don't get cheap on me, Epicurious.
jurassic park reference decent
Reference, WE GOT REFERENCES HERE@!!! ----
See, nobody cares...
A $3K knife IMHO just to show that you have deep pockets to buy a knife for show. I'm guilty in owning a knife that is for show. It is a 24" saber that is used for opening bottles of Champagne. That showpiece set me back $295.00 USD. I'm still a the point that the price of each usage exceeds the price of the bottles that I've opened. It takes great skill to use as you need to make contact with the bottle with an exact point on the bottle. I've used this on bottles of NV Moet White Star. This technique even done perfectly can result with a 10% or greater loss of the Champagne from the bottle. I'd NEVER open something like a Dom, Veuve Grande Dame, Roederer Cristal Brut Vintage etc. It would be painful to my frugal nature to see the loss of a single drop of the best stuff.
"Painful to my frugal nature" *owns a $295.00, 24" saber for opening Champagne poorly.* 🤔
They better have given it to him. 6 commercials in 16 minutes for this episode. They beat have paid the man in rare, exquisite knives
This was the first of this series where I feel like I could guess ahead which was more expensive - really appreciate him examining both in equal depth though!
Love this guy! I've watched several videos of his...you can't get much better than this knife expert!
I'm so used to the food based Price Point videos that every time he picks up a knife I half expect him to eat it
Whoever does the art board never fails to impress me..
Payday TO I knoww riight
Yep, i agree
@Jesus helped me 1000 times your name really suits you, lol.
Thanx dude
@Jesus helped me 1000 times 😀😀😀
Chalk expert
I LOVE this guy’s energy!
I remember watching this back when I was 13, and I'll rewatch it every once in a while
Same as the bread guy, he’s giving us the answer but not bashing the cheaper version 👍🏻
The bread guy is Gold
People who complain that the challenge is too easy for the expert are missing the entire point. It's not about which product is cheaper og more expensive, it's all about why and the experts giving you all their knowledge so that you can make better and more informed decisions going forward in your own life.
But it’s not useful if they only tell you things everyone already knows. By distinguishing more difficult edge cases they have to tell you more sophisticated rules.
LITERALLY it's about which is cheaper or more expensive. The title is "expert guesses cheap vs expensive". So either the video is off-point, or the title is misleading.
@@HaloStrategist The point of the video can be different from the point of the game in the video, like the morale of a story doesn't have to pertain to the characters.
Ppl watch for entertainment not for training so they miss the point
You must have missed the title where it says “expert guesses cheap vs. expensive knives | price points.” It’s great if you were able to glean something else from the video, but evidently you are the one who missed the point.
This dudes legit. He pointed out the difference between heirlooms and workhorses. Very interesting to see what he sees in them.
If this series has taught me anything, it’s that I am an expert in EVERYTHING
"6 inches or 7 inches is all you need for boning" wow 😂
Hahahaha! I didn't realize he actually said that until I read your comment! Lol
Jaggy Babeh you need it to be a little more stiff
I was just about to comment this!
Well what do I do with the extra 4-5 inches then?!
papillon cut them off
8:10 'six inches, seven inches is all you really need for boning' that's all what I caught
YOU WANT IT TO BE A LITTLE BIT STIFF HE SAID
Hahaha im dying here!
Gray Crayon dead 🤣
i would argue 5 could get the job done provided you know what you're doing
6-7 inches is really the average length, but unless you really learn how to use it all you'll do is hurt yourself and disappoint everyone.
And it needs a little stiffness
I'm really disappointed that they didn't challenge this knife expert but he handled the lack of challenge gracefully. I appreciate that he described the features of the knives when he couldn't just pointed and said "That's the expensive one."
I'm still waiting for a car expert that's gonna tell us that a brand new Ferrari is more expensive than a used Yugo
I'm certainly no expert, but the moment I saw that Damascus steel blade I literally laughed out loud.
That is not Damascus steel. It is pattern welded aka watered steel. Nobody knows how Damascus steel was forged and the patterns are just part of it.
SSchithFoo “Steel made with a wavy surface pattern produced by hammer-welding strips of steel and iron followed by repeated heating and forging, used chiefly for knife and sword blades. Such items were often marketed, but not necessarily made, in Damascus during the medieval period.” Check yourself
@@nathandkreosote9917 Sorry, you're wrong. Pattern welded steel, EVEN IF IT IS MADE IN DAMASCUS, is not real Damascus steel. Real Damascus steel (aka, Wootz steel) is very rare and valuable, due to (as stated above) the fact that we have not discovered the methods or materials used to achieve the properties that it possesses. Many modern steels may surpass its abilities, but it was centuries ahead of its time when it was created. Wootz steel is a crucible steel with a highly homogeneous composition that boasted naturally occurring nanotubing, where pattern welded steel is by definition composed of multiple pieces of different steel that are fused to create a pattern. Historically, this was done to compensate for impurities and weaknesses in inferior steel that did not exist in Wootz due to its nature as crucible steel
@@SSchithFoo They recently discovered nano carbon tubes in Damascus. We are getting closer to reverse engineering it.
@@SSchithFoo You should really check this out before you say nobody knows how damascus steel is made. Not many people have been successful in reproducing this man's work but the process does exist
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Dude goes from indoor to outdoor voice when the Damascus comes out
"OKAY LETS MOVE OVER TO THIS NEXT KNIFE NOOWWWwww..."
I could've sworn I saw his eyes glisten when he said "I'm a knife expert." and "I'm gonna pick them up."
This is the kinda guy you run into an empty bar at 5pm and stay until closing just because of an awesome conversation
The BEST kinds of people to meet. Half the time, I don’t actually care what the conversation is about. It’s just nice to forget about everything and geek out with somebody about something.
Then you take him home and eat his broghurt
Judging from that guy's hands, he's not a stranger to using knives himself.
But not a fingernail brush.
Barbara Danley what’s a fingernail brush? You mean a file?
No, a brush. For cleaning. His nails are super dirty, haha.
That’s for sure!!! Not sure if he is a chef, but he has chef hands. Think he is a knife maker perhaps.
I'm guessing he's a knife maker. Those are some abused mits
'All engine, no brakes.' I desperately want to add that to my repertoire. XD
these experts are great. they can probably tell at a glance which is more expensive, but they investigate for the viewer.
that guys hands is proof of years of hard work
hahaha i noticed that too
I could watch this guy talk about knives all day
When he said "you brought a Damascus knife?!" I knew that was going to be the expensive one.
I'd love a Damascus Japanese chef knife, but since I'm still an amateur cook I went with a Tojiro DP 110 and it's honestly amazing as a basic chef's knife.
Be careful with that knife. It chips very easily. I use mine as a "travel" knife because I know I won't be able to replicate its sharpness, so I use it rarely.
I also have the Victorinox 8" and the Mercer Cutlery 10". The Victorinox is popular among chefs, but Mercer will definitely impress you. While I have the 10", I feel as though I should have gotten the 8".
@@brett5656 Ditto that on the Victorinox (10 for me). Handles everything I do very capably.
Each pair of knives was so similar it's amazing he was able to tell them apart so successfully.
Oh wait, no. Never mind. I'm not an expert and I was just as right as he was.
Coffee would be a great one to do for this series!
Danielle Thomas my grandpa was a coffee expert he was famous in Korea for coffee
Can't wait can't wait can't wait
He's like if Vince Vaughn and Paul Rudd got in a transporter accident.
Haha, I had to go back and look at his face.
YES
The geeking out over the Damascus Steel serrated knife was so wholesome.
Could’ve just said “this one’s got more stuff on it, so it’s more expensive”
hear that ladies 6 or 7 inches is all you need for boning
What about 3?
What about metric?
You good sir just won the internet
Most boning knives on offer are only around 5 and a half inches
N T keep telling yourself that buddy
The host is excellent, but whoever set this up to challenge him is as dumb as a box of rocks. It was very easy to guess which one was more expensive.
No need for an expert for those comparisons.
The expert mentioned all kinds of trivia and gave reasoning behind his descision. Anyone could told you which knive is more expensive but if you think about it why would anyone make a video about some arbitrary unnamed knives being compared if it wasn't for more than just the comparison? As perfectendinguk said, it is there to educate the viewer.
You can tell which is expensive but can you tell why?
Yes, materials for one thing. Its very easy to tell which is the cheapo knife on the first one for example just by observing the make and materials used alone, anything else is just pointless trivia. You don't need some "Hidden secret shaolin knowledge" to figure it out. The only way you wouldn't automatically know which was which is if you've never seen nor held a knife before but then I imagine four year olds are too busy watching whatever is on PBS these days.
Yes - it's pretty easy to tell that polished wood with a flush finish to the metal on the handle/tang with pegs is going to be more expensive than a generic handle plastic, which like, 3 of the cheaper knives had.
I had a hard time guessing which ones were more expensive. Good thing he was there to tell me
I definitely need this guy when I go knife shopping 😆
I'm not a knife expert, but I still guessed everything right.
But can you explain why?
More.jams.than.jimin this is too freaking obvious....
@Stxn - I meant can he explain why one knife is more expensive than the other. I'd imagine if the expert just said "Well it's obvious that X is more expensive. Next." it'd be a little bit more boring of a video, nay?
More.jams.than.jimin I view these more as educational and why the more expensive things you buy are pricier. They’re more entertaining when you don’t view them as a challenge video.
@jefftom21 i am no expert and i can explain pretty much the same thing. and probably with more in sight into technical aspects
To everyone being pompous about easily identifying the cheap/expensive knives, YOU MISSED THE WHOLE POINT.
It's painfully obvious he also knows what's more expensive from the start. You also know which one is expensive. But you don't know how, why, or if is it even worth it.
Also, what he has that you don't is the wisdom to analyze bang for buck, and what is needed in the situation. He said it himself. You don't always need an expensive knife.
If you think more expensive is always the way to go, then you don't actually think about your choices.
Flying Scout well he wasnt wasn't particularly clear in the differences or which type of steel/wood/other materials were being used, there are millions. He didnt mention the handcrafted japanese knives. Which are some of the best. He also doesnt emphasize the various types of steel that could have been used etc. But your right in some aspects though
the title literally says he guesses what is the cheaper and more expensive one. With him and me knowing right from the bat kinda defeats that purpose... they should be more alike to really make it sort of a challenge.
If these videos were only about teaching the difference in the products and how they affect their cost, that would be fine. But when you show groups where the difference in price is no longer in question, you need to drop the "Expert Guesses" clickbait.
he even said he'd prefer the cheaper boning knife over the more expensive one, and with a good explanation of why. (also watching him fanboy over the Damascus steel knife was fun haha)
I thought the same thing. Obviously I can identify which is pricey HOWEVER that doesn't always mean it's worth the money. I'd prefer to practice with cheap materials when it comes to art supplies than buy the good quality products for more serious projects.
People dont seem to realise that these videos aren’t supposed be be clickbaity challenge videos. They just explain the difference between the cheap and expensive products. Obviously an expert can tell the difference.
This seemed like an easy comparison but the practical tips were very much appreciated
"Hi I'm Geoff Feder,"
*stares into the camera with sadistic excitement*
"and I'm a KNIFE expert"