Depeche Mode - My Secret Garden - recreated with a B 2600
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- čas přidán 13. 12. 2020
- Depeche Mode - My Secret Garden Live in Hammersmith instrumental remake.
This is my favourite song of Depeche Mode in the best version in my opinion. I have played/programmed everything by ear so it may contain some wrong notes.
All drums/percussion/all other sounds were made with a Behringer 2600 Synthesizer.
For the polyphonic sounds, i made multisamples from the 2600 and used Logic Sampler to play them by midi.
The song was played and recorded track by track and mixed in Logic Pro. I have used the Logic stock EQs and added some send effects (Native Instruments RC24 and Replika).
The song was written by Martin L. Gore. - Hudba
I was waiting for Dave to say good evening everybody when it goes from oberkorn to my secret garden . Great job . . .
"Good evening, everybody!" - Goosebumps every time. Great work, Tom.
I can practically hear the moment Dave comes on stage, this is fantastic
Absolutely phenomenal cover. Didn't hear any mistakes whatsoever. Faithful reproduction of the original, which I also believe to be the very best version of this incredible song 10/10
Cheers! Glad you like it.
Always one of my favorites. A Broken Frame is such analog goodness. Nice job!
@D D Day esq I guess it depends on how you define digital. By the wavetable oscillator only? The PPG wave has analog filters and envelopes which give it a different sound. Cuts the harshness. The most analog sounding digital I have heard. It’s really a hybrid synth.
Absolutely fantastic!!!!!!
When I discovered Depeche in 1988 this track was one of those magic moments. Well done patching all these sounds from the 2600!
Fantastic work on this amazing Synth. It is still on my wishlist. You really handle this maschine
Amazing work, thanks!
Amazing. I love how you showed the patches interspersed with their parts in the track. Awesome work!
Very cool. Good done!
very cool~!! great to have the same synth that made all those sounds so many years ago. sounds that are still fabulous. Love DM, and they are still going stong.
Amazing. I too am a fan and just received my 2600 last week. Your videos are inspiring. Thank you.
"Secret Garden" and "Love In Itself" are two of my absolute Favorite DM songs that you NEVER hear played anywhere. Well done!
So happy I found your channel I got my 2600 very much appreciated you sharing these patches = awesome song absolutely love it - subscribed!
This is just great. Well done. Good work t. noise and thanks for sharing.
Thank you!
Superb.
Even has a live reverb.
Thanks for showing the patches.
sounds terrific!
Wahnsinn! Sofort abonniert! Bitte mehr!
Really enjoyed the visual time line sequence
Well done!
This is great, very impressive skill with the machine.
Thank you!
I SOOOO Love this! DM Forever!!!! Well done t. noise !!
Great job and impressive sound from Behringers 2600!
Absolutely LOVE IT!
Cheers, much appreciated!
Well done Sound of the Good old days
Great work of art! You also catch the end right. RESPECT!
Fantastic!
Yes. Those old ones get stuck in your head & comeback randomly like a good PTSD. Good job man
what a beautiful sound 😃♥️ this behringer is awesome and you my friend know how to manage the many buttons and sliders 😉👍👍🎶🎶 great job 🙋♂️🌄
Very good !
Great. Shockingly good noise percussion, snare, kick. Nailed this 👍
Thanks!
I agree this is the best version of this song - very nize - well done!
perfect recreation :) good job :)
Wonderfull ! Keep it up !
NIce work. I learned to play keyboards, by picking this out on battery operated Yamaha portasound. Good memories.
Wow, simply WOW!!!
Thanks, simply thank you!!
Fabulous!
Great! I had the album when it came out and drove from Los Angeles to san Francisco on highway 1 blasting it the whole way - great driving music. I'd buy a 2600 for the bass sound alone, your drums sound great too.
This is something to consider for those who are brand new to synthesis---look how good this sounds in competent hands. I have seen experienced midiphiles in college strain to make a noise with a ARP 2600, yet flawlessly program a DX7 with software!
Finding a sweetspot is an art and yes, some amazing discoveries can be made. That is the good part, stuff that never existed may be a turn of a knob or a patch cord away! But if you like presets and menus this is a bit like someone giving you wheat flour and saying make pancakes, bread and cake. It is...all...there...waiting for an audio chef to just get thier hands on.
My uncle made a fair living doing sci fi type sound effects using a lot of stuff, this box would be right there if he was still here to enjoy. This is an amazing time to create! Get a preset, get a cd get a board you like and do it to it pruit!
Love it 😍
Just found this one word... Magic 😎👍
I was there the night they did the recording. Solid cover, most impressed. I remember the bass being a bit less sawtooth and chunky - but that may be down to the acoustic when originally recorded. And I love bass :-)
Wow
I thought Love in itself was the first song from Depeche Mode! And what an amazing song!! Secret Garden sounds very nice! Didn't know t!
Nice job!
Real Good!!!
Tom.....thanks for the patch pics! Going to mess around on my KARP 2600 and do some tweaking.
Cool, hope it translates well!
Nice one
Hey man!! What an amazing view to this detailled artwork! All this time! Behringer should see what you do!😉
Danke 🙏
2:44 yes !!
REALLY awesome track! I love monophonic and duophonic synths.. I'm really happy to have own a few from Behringer and others... and I'll get the the 2600.. sooner or late. Remember, "Everything counts in large amounts". ;-)
Well done! I can hardly wait for my Behringer 2600 to arrive to my studio now. The sounds are not 100% but very close, nice!
Perfect
Amazing work - so accurate. Makes a nice change from the 'Alan Wilder sample disk used' covers.
cheers!
I know it's usually said that the kicks on ABF were not Arp 2600, but this sounds very close to live at Hammersmith and is one of the best 2600 kicks I've heard, well done on the programming - superb. Ill be getting a 2600 sometime this year but am still working through an Emulator ultra I bought a couple of months back. Just not enough hours in the day!
I thought all the early Mode kicks were 2600 because Dan Miller thought 808/etc sounded naff? They definitely used 808 for other things, though (hihat, clap, cowbell on Monument). Was the snare 2600 on the original? Original kind of sounds like Simmons, but you can do that on practically anything with snappy envelopes, noise and a sine/triangle osc.
Great work! thank you! all potential buyers are here hahahahahahah
:-D
I have one of these and it can really do Depeche well
So cool!
And now a "how-to" video tutorial how you create this one ;-)
I guess this would take a while to make it 😉 but if you have a closer look at the video, it’s more or less there with many patches and hints 👍
Really well done! And OMG how long did it take you to do that? I could never do this. My favourite DM by the way is "Nothing to fear"
Thanks! Together with the video, this one took me about 10 hours in total. It's not as hard as it may look, just 16 tracks in total and the music/sound is not complicated. That's why i like this one, it's so effective how DM used these few sounds together. Mostly simple melodic lines and rarely any chords that just go together very well. Oh yeah and "Nothing to fear" is a fantastic song as well. I love all the early stuff they did.
The original drums used were Simmons SDS-V.
Interesting, didn't know that!
And other parts were from Moog, PPG, Roland Jupiter etc. So you can see how versatile this ARP 2600 replica is and this version can "emulate" all of this guys! Super gemacht, Tom Noise !!
The kick was 2600, supposedly
A lot of the original studio versions of stuff on first 2 albums was 2600. Especially basslines. They used different gear live because it’s what they owned. But Dan Miller’s 2600 is all over those albums, as well as Yazoo Upstairs album. They were still using 2600 for both generating and processing sounds as late as Violator (Waiting For the Night). Not sure after that.
@@sub-jec-tiv I think so too, but i guess today, with so many great tools available in the market, it doesn't matter as much. If you use the right technique with a capable synthesizer, then you can make it sound similar also with other gear.
Good evening, everybody!
a nice one...cheers! Would like to have the behringer now but... ;-)
Kommt Zeit, kommt B-Arp... oder so 😉
@@tomnoise23 Also...davon abgesehen das ich diesen Song liebe...und das tue ich wirklich weil ich viele Erinnerungen aus der Zeit habe, hätte ich tatsächlich eine frage dazu: Wo ist der DL Link dazu? ;-) Ich meine, jeder Depeschie hätte dieses Cover gerne. Und wie ich jetzt einen weiteren Behringer habe, ja den 2600´er, neben Neutron, Pro-1, Crave, TD-3 und RD-8...kann mich die Welt mal... :-D allerdings nur Symbolisch! Ich find gut was du hier zeigst weil Analog ist alt...aber immer wieder besser als die neuen toll blinkenden ROMpler aus der Neuzeit! Prost!
@@wernerlehmann8264 Danke für das liebe Feedback! Download: Ich hatte direkt nach dem Upload (zu Recht) einen Urheberrechtshinweis bekommen. Nichts schlimmes, aber verständlich. Darum möchte ich das mit einem Downloadangebot nicht noch auf die Spitze treiben. Respect the creators! Und viel Spaß mit dem 2600!
@@tomnoise23 OK, verstehe! Trotzdem DANKE für dieses Stück! *depeschiesuntersich*
Great job! What converters and or preamps did you use? Or did you use an outbord mixer going into the converters?
Thanks! Recording was done with Logic Pro, 2600 out straight into a Behringer ADA8200 converter, which is connected via adat to my RME Audio interface.
Help! I just got my 2600, if I open the Filter just a little I get a
continous sound no matter how I dial in my adsr, how can that be?
Check the faders on the right side and left hand of the Outputs. INITIAL GAIN should be down all the way and the VCF OUT in the Mixer section should be too. Otherwise you’ll get a steady tone. I would suggest to download and read the manual for an ARP 2600 to get a better understanding of the signal flow.
I gotta try building a whole track, when my 2600 grey arrives, with just its sound. What was your reason for going for the black over the grey or blue?
The reason was that the gray and blue weren`t announced yet when i preordered the black one. I made this video in December 2020 ... Meanwhile i ended up buying both, a black and a gray one.
To be honest, I like your instrumental version better than DM's.
Hey man this is fantastic could we talk about this awesome creation please? Wow 🤩
Cheers! :-)
@@tomnoise23 Are you able to help me with your patch creations? I’m interested in learning how you shaped these cool sounds?
@@CDSJ80 I took photos of almost all the patches that i used for this and added them to the video. Let me know if you need any specific information about a sound.
@@tomnoise23 Would I be able to create the sounds on a different synthesizer I don’t have a Behringer 2600
Hey where is the picture for the part that Alan plays Sounds like a fifth on the synthesizer
Hey buddy since I don’t own the Behringer arp 2600 how would I program that very beginning stringy sound on a JP 08 or essentially or using Arturia Jupiter 8V
Sorry for the latest answer. I only just noticed your question. On a Jupiter 8 i would just use one of the classic factory patches (those with "strings" in the name, i guess the JP8V does come with a bunch of those) and mess with the envelope and filter settings to get there. Essentially it's using two oscillators with a bit of PWM by the LFO, then filtered, adding a bit of resonance.
Hey buddy could you tell me the settings for both ADSR’s for the stringy intro? I don’t have a behringer arp2600 but I have a Roland JP-08 and the Jupiter 8v Arturia I’m sure it’s the same 😊
@@tomnoise23 ok so two of pwm do I use a sawtooth and pwm ocillators?
Like how did you set both ADSR’s and whatnot to the sound like you did on the behringer 2400? I’m trying to advance my programming skills 😊
@@CDSJ80 sorry i can’t recall the exact settings but in my video at 0:30 there is a photo of that patch
it sounds like that because of Miller /Wilder , martin gore is more is the melodies
Wilder wasn't involved in the album, just playing on tour.
Wow, just wow more authentic than Depeche Mode themselves
Thanks a lot but no, i am just a copycat pretending to be an artist 😇
@@tomnoise23 Its takes a great deal of time and skill to put something like this together, so don't put yourself down. Behnringer could use your videos as promotion videos to demonstrate what the 2600 is capable of, in fact I bet I lot of people will view these and buy one off the back of it.
So beautiful, nice job. Did you sample the noise percussion ?
no, it was played with midi notes and key tracking on vcf
@@tomnoise23 Fantastic sound
@@Esperluet Thank you 🙏!
Can You explain, how to get/patch this "noise percussion" melodic sound please?
Hi, sure! Check the Video at 1:47 and see the picture of the patch. If you copy the fader settings then you have it.
@@tomnoise23 I've tried to understand this, but I don't have 2600. I will try to design this sound in some VSTs. Let me know the rule of this patch, so I will be able to program other synths :)
@@EKD_WFE ah i see! basically you need white noise routed through a resonant low pass filter. Typically a 4-pole type like the ladder filter with middle to high resonance. Then modulate the filter with keyboard tracking plus a short percussive envelope, a simple A/D Type will do as well. Playing this sound with different notes in different octaves will result in getting the different colors. Set the VCA envelope accordingly and there you go. If you have reaktor blocks, it would be very easy to do.
@@tomnoise23 Thank You! That's cool explanation :)
@@EKD_WFE You`re welcome! Hope that helps :)
You're only using two oscillators for that fat bass?
Hey Tom, seems we have the same taste in music. I like this song and version as much as u. I would not say its the best DM song, since they have so much good ones. If you need a challenge try Leave in Silence (Maxi) with the glorious brass solo, which is quite complicated and pure insanity for my taste.
Right, so many great songs! It’s just my personal favorite because i have so many memories connected to it. Leave in silence is also amazing but i think it wouldn’t really be possible with only one synth to make a really good remake of the song. Also that brass solo has a lot of delay tricks going on. Would take me ages to get there:)
@@tomnoise23 Yeah, delay and reverb, i tried that. Drove me crazy. I ever wondered if it was the Jup-8 or the 2600, and was it played by hand or sequenced. Never solved that. And yes, there is a lot PPG and other stuff going on, hard to do with just the 2600.
@@iSirTaki I guess for the brass sound, the 2600 could come pretty close, but probably a bit softer. But i am not sure, it also has this metallic "bite" to it. Maybe it's also PPG? Who knows how much EQing is envolved in this sound as well.
@@tomnoise23 you’d also need a Rhodes piano to cover Leave in Silence. The solo sounds like 2600 to me. Same as the ‘horn’ solo at the end of Love In Itself. My guess is that in both cases they slowed down the sequencer a little,and played in a solo, improvised, which then got quantised. Alan or Martin could have easily tracked a solo like that.
@@sub-jec-tiv you could be right. The 2600 comes pretty close quickly, i have tried.
Lovely reproduction! Martin Gore in full potential, no Vince or Alan around; this is for the ones that don’t get it till now who was the real genius in DM
You forget Daniel Miller and Eric Radcliffe. Gores solo efforts are meh to be honest.
@@oldfatbastad6053 those were technical guys and not in charge with the compositions
@@plutostubeWrong again. Case in point: Daniel and Gareth's shaping the composition of "Black Celebration". As for thr real genius, one need only look at their work with Wilder compared to what followed. You do realize Alan worked on ABF, right?
Case in point (the correct version :D):
You do realise you are totally wrong about the A broken frame producer team, right? Beside the fact that any DM fun know this basic thing about their favourite band, Daniel Miller said into an interview: “The songs were great, and while Alan [Wilder] wasn’t involved with A Broken Frame, he was involved from Construction Time… onwards, up until he left the band.” Also check Wikipedia and Alan’s interview and many other informations online. Did you heard about a single called Get the balance right? What album is that? :D You know this is the first track AW was involved in the studio for DM right before his first DM album Construction time again? :D
Secondly any genius composer (look at Lennon) had their times, so it less about AW not being in DM but much more about MG loosing the sparkles after 40 years of making music, and even with that he has a lot of great compositions after AW left (indeed not that many), so even just for those songs DM is a very relevant band.
Even Alan Wilder said: “Martin is most definitely an underrated songwriter. His songs have been able to touch people in a way that very few songwriters have been able to do. And it’s quite clear that his songwriting capabilities have been the major part of Depeche Mode’s longevity.”
Again you are living in a different dimension my friend, Gareth and Daniel did shaped the sound on Black Celebration but not the compositions, of course if you can make the difference between the notions.
Maybe this will give you a bit of reality check: "In 1999, Gore received the Ivor Novello Award from the British Academy of Songwriters, Composers and Authors for "International Achievement" @@thirdlantern
@@plutostube Well, now you're not only pedantic but you're also lying. Furthermore, no one doubts Gore's songwriting prowess. The issue is his sub-par arrangements, which Wilder clearly excelled in. Maybe give the truth a try sometime!
Das nenn ich saubere Arbeit.Bei Interesse hör mal in die Version von Marsheaux rein, so als wäre DM erst gestern aufgetreten....
Geiler Tipp, danke! Marsheaux kannte ich noch nicht!
Die haben die komplette Scheibe „a broken frame“ neu aufgenommen .. sehr sehr geil
Very very close...just need Fletch's useless clapping and we are good to go
Oh man, poor Fletch.
3 notes on photographic bassline . Fletch still fucks up .... Martin just clap out of time from now on mate
@@morphiclab303 In fact this is one of the most complex basslines Fletch had to do, and he actually played it live, he used to play a lot more in the early days than he does now.
I think Alan pushed him to play 😎
err Fletch actually plays the bass live on MSG
I've also recreated this masterpiece from 1982. But I'm scared to upload it, because it sounds ciminally similar to yours 🤣
😎😎
The beginning of the Wilder years...
AW has nothing to do with making any of the A Broken Frame tracks. The same goes for the live versions for that tour, he did not compose/produce any of them. He was just a hired keyboard player at that time.
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