PARALLEL SKIDDING TO CARVING TURNS | Intermediate lesson w/ Tom Gellie | Ep.2 Technique Teardowns
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- If a world-class instructor watched you ski past, what's the one piece of advice they would give to help transform your skiing?
Wonder no longer! We've teamed up with Carv Ambassador and APSI Level 4 instructor Tom Gellie to bring you the second episode of our Technique Teardown series.
In today’s lesson Tom takes a look at some skiing footage submitted by Paula. Paula is looking to improve her technique before meeting her expert skiing friend this coming winter in the French Alps.
Tom identifies some valuable take home points which should send Paula off in the right direction for her next skiing day. The following points are covered in today’s episode:
- The importance of subtle foot pressure adjustments for better edge grip.
- Shin pressure, what is the right amount?
- The risks of leaning too far forward .
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Timecodes
0:00 - Introduction to technique teardown series
0:31 - Introduction to Paula
0:45 - Paula's skiing goals
1:01 - A lack of edge grip
2:45 - Shin pressure vs soul of foot pressure
4:50 - Side by side analysis
7:31 - At home exercise
9:40 - Take home tips
10:20 - Watch more content
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I have some more insight into the problem, since I ski tend to ski exactly like Paula on steeper runs, and am trying to work on it. Fear/confidence is probably a big factor here, and maybe Paula equates turning to braking, and going slower gives her the feeling of control (it does for me). That could be why turns are so rushed, because she's nervous to point the skis downhill and be patient with turns, because when you're patient, you tend to pick up speed. I had an instructor tell me "slow down to turn, don't turn to slow down" and that's helped me realize I need to be patient with turns, which plays into the body position you discuss.
Adam, you nailed it. Paula is not ready to make long carving turns. She wants to finish the turn quickly because in a long turn her skis are pointing downhill too long. You can see how tense her upper body is, she wants to get the skis around quickly. She needs to gradually work herself into longer turns and when comfortable she can start to think about using her edges to carve her turns.
Ooh, great thoughts. I’m going to keep this in mind
Sometimes you have to be quick with turns though, especially on a busy mountain and a kid randomly decides to cut in front of your line 😂
@@ricercr44 that’s what all mountain skis are for… helping dampen and push through the rough snow, crud, and any other obstacles
I've see this described as making a V shaped curve that Paula does as opposed to a C shaped curve that is a more relaxed way to do it.
I have never ever seen a video on technique this good. I love the way that you start with the problem of a 'normal' skier, show it practically and then clearly show how this needs to be corrected. Will definitely add you channel. Thanks Tom.
Thanks Heinrich 😊
I agree 👍
Exactly what I was about to say. Seen a bunch of videos "explaining" how to go from intermediate to advanced, none of them explain it as well as this does about the sole pressure in lieu of the shin pressure. Excellent video. Also, not sure I'd call her an intermediate level skier, but that's just me.
Agree with this! It's perfect for me issue and I've never been been able to understand what I'm doing wrong. I have had friends explain on the slope but a breakdown with this level of analysis is awesome. Thanks
@@robertwinston2496 I agree with the assessment on Paula. I think to be an intermediate you need to be past the lack of confidence phase. From her stance she doesn't look to be enjoying it.
Lots of good info here, Have to say though, the side-by-side at 5:50 shows two dramatically different levels of skiing, Paula = survival, you = dynamic skiing. The ability to achieve high edge angles required for carving, without a massive increase in physicality, combined with increased speed, will take Paula years to achieve. It's a physical impossibility to achieve the edge angle on the right at slow speeds without falling over. Forces of physics, and skeletal/joint limitations, require higher speeds to load up the skis and counterbalance your entire body tipping over. Look at Paula's entire body at 5:50, if she tipped her body over as far as yours, at the speed she's going, immediate fall. Becoming a better skier requires overcoming fear, Paula is skiing scared, you're not. "Breakthrough on Skis" - best book I've read on overcoming the fear that will set you free. Hence the old adage - just point 'em and go.
I think Paula and many intermediate skiers are (consciously or unconsciously) trying to keep their downhill speed at comfort levels. As you demonstrate, carving those turns requires patience, and that patience brings with it increased cross-slope and downhill speeds which can be unnerving to intermediate skiers who are not confident they can make the next turn away from the trees or stay in control as they speed downhill. Your vid and analysis are excellent!
and the comfort levels depend on how well you can control the skis, so it goes down to proper technique. Once you got the technique at slower speeds, it gives a sense of control and confidence which translates into readiness to let those skis go. Hockey stop exercise also really helps to feel control and grip in order to build that confidence.
As a novice, attempting to transition into intermediate, you are 100% correct. The fear of the speed is crippling
@@AnyaMuslimahLate reply. 😉
I wonder if there is more to it than confidence. Maybe there is a personality aspect? I have the same fear of being out of control go-karting on a flat surface as I do when skiing (as an intermediate)...
My style of skiing is a mirror copy of Paula's. With the addition of my shins hurting like hell after three days of skiing. Thank you very much for the analysis.
And don’t forget the most important thing is to smile while skiing . 😃
You got that right George!
Have an awesome winter ⛷
So so many time you hear 'experts' say push your shin hard to the front of the boot. Everything you just said makes so much sense. Thank you
No problems at all!
All the best putting it all into action next time you go skiing ⛷
This is just excellent instruction- virtually all intermediate skiers have the same issues - thanks a million Tom
Cheer Kevin
yeah，one video solved my three-season-long puzzle,subscribed immidiately.
How is that an intermediate? That’s literally a rookie, level 0, skiing for the first time
This is the video I’ve been searching for! I’ve been ‘skidding’ for years and no other video or instructor has explained the reason and the remedy for it as succinctly as you do. Thank you Tom and Paula!
This is the best explanation bar none. I learned to skid ski as a teenager with friends and never improved over the years resigning myself to never getting better. This is dramatically helping.
We always hear that “you need to keep forward over the tips of the skis”. When I was learning I felt like it meant I had to try and press my shins forward and raise my heels. Thanks for clearing this up.
I’ve skied with a lot of top skiers in my time and all them aim to ski through the whole foot. Shifting pressure around but mostly staying centred
Great breakdown. Personally, I think you've got to be comfortable with speed to carve well. People who skid are often a bit apprehensive, and are trying to keep the brakes on.
Totally. That is my issue, fear of speed
Exactly what I would do when I got to a slope that was too steep so I would what Paula is doing to slow down because I knew I didn't have the skill to carve those steeper inclines...especially when i was younger and using rental skis....never knew what size or brand I would end up with week to week!!
Very good point! You need a certain minimum speed to carve, and you have to trust your skis/edges.
@@1969bogdi you don’t need speed to carve. Try a one ski drill on an easy slope. Your ski will edge at slower speeds.
Excellent demonstration. I’ve been skiing for 45 years and have never seen the technicals broken down this well . Thank you 👍
I litteraly just came back from a 4 day ski trip, I am a beginner and now i understand why I was skidding, I ski just like Paula right now, hope to improve in the future, thanks for the tips!
Glad it was useful! Stay tuned for more ski content 🎿
I'm a level 3 ski instructor and I love these videos. I can get overly technical and sometimes on the hill I'll take my phone out to show videos like this to get a different perspective. Good on Carv for disseminatkng all of these tips.
Do you think it’s an intermediate level or a beginner? I’m really curious
@@marcinw9104 it's kind of subjective. Depends how much wedge they ski with is how I rate beginner/intermediate
This video just helped me the most and put me to the edge finally; all the years pushing to be better now has it's harvest, having the video as the final push. Thanks a lot! :)
That had to be the best explanation to a person who is learning how to ski I have never heard it explained like that and I have learned tremendously from this video now I'm ready to hit the slopes and put this into action I'm sure this is going to make me carve so much better thank you brother
One of the best instructors! Thanks!!
This breaks my whole ski theory, I was always told to presse to the foward, gonna try what you said this season, thanks.
Thanks for watching!
Go try it out and let us know how you go.
Have an awesome winter ⛷
Exactly! Was pushing forward like crazy, shin-pressure causing blisters. It's not needed. :)
I think it’s still better for beginners at least to feel too far forward than too far back. Being too far back is a guaranteed loop out. I love this video though and am excited to try these techniques!
@@ricercr44 Too far forward causes beginners and intermediates to wash out their tails and over rotate the end of their turns. Weight should always be predominantly on the arch of the foot, just like in any other sport. Too far forward or back only engages half of the ski's edge.
my beginner ski lessons always told me to press into the shin of the boot. I guess it serves a purpose at that real beginner stage but starts to hold you back after a short time. i couldnt work out why this skidding was happening to me so i was just pressing even further forward - this vid makes total sense now!
I have been skiing for 40 years but couldn't explain to my teenage daughters how to get more edge control. This was very helpful! Thank you for making the video!
This video deserves more love.
Best explanation I have ever heard on the subject! Freezing the frame to match the specific talking point was a huge help! Also overlaying the images to demonstrate correct & incorrect stance. Very helpful to demonstrate pressure points on the actual boot too! Lastly, thank you for speaking in “plain English” vs technical instructor talk!
OMG!!! Thank you for your incredibly descriptive video, on skidding . I could never pinpoint or explain what I was trying to combat on the mountain side and seeing Paula and your videos absolutely opened my eyes to what is going on with my technique and how I can improve . I already feel so much more confident in knowing once I can balance between the ball of my foot and heel I will begin to notice more control in my turns in skiing downhill. WHEW!!!
This video along with your lesson on skiing through the soles of your feet to allow you to push forward during the first half of a turn and the subtle shifting back through the second half of a turn together will help anyone trying to improve their carved turns. Really good!
This is what I have needed to hear especially on steep slopes. Love how well you explained and demonstrated it!! I now understand why I’m skidding. Thank you!!!
It’s a nice feeling to know WHY something is going wrong. So much easier to fix it
@@Bigpictureskiing haha I was thinking the same thing. I’m glad I feel like I know what to work on though.
Same here! :)
Ya Colleen that’s PROBABLY why your skidding, give me a break
I am the same way! Thankful for this! 👍
Great job. As a self taught skier, I think I’m advanced but really these videos make me realize I’m just an intermediate. Keep the awesome content coming!
Good job! one of the best ski instructional videos I've seen. Clear, simple well explained.
Thanks, means a lot
Awesome explanation. Simple, yet methodical.
How did I miss this channel ? Omg
Currently a confirmed noob, trying to become Pisteur in France, will definetely binge watch this channel
It is funny how many videos of yours I’ve watched and yet it wasn’t until this one that the light bulb went on regarding skiing with your feet. I look forward to playing with this one. Thanks.
Awesome that this one clicked for you 👏 Let us know how it goes
Happens to me all the time too haha
I took a couple of videos of myself this winter and they look exactly the same as Paula (and I have been stuck at this level for more than 5 years). This video really helps me to learn what I did wrong and how I can correct it. Can’t wait trying out some drills this week!
Found this video to be extremely valuable. Thanks for sharing with us. You’re an effective teacher
We're super happy to hear that it was helpful!
All the best putting these tips into action Jamie ⛷
Equipment is important & tuning. The ultimate carving ski is a race ski, but it takes very aggressive technique & speed to bend the ski. I switched from Fischer 190cm GS race skis to Stöckli 168cm Storm rider 88. A huge switch for sure. It's much easier to carve, but not as stable at crazy high speeds.
I've watched a tons of videos by the years for how to improve skiing, but this one is amazing! Thank you!
Thanks a lot Tom! Will focus on this, really can't wait to the winter to apply your advice and improve my grip.
This is so helpful. Thanks for putting in the effort with the real “struggle” footage and the overlays of your skiing.
Great video! That explains alot about why my shins hurt so much when I tried to replicate what the other much better skiers in my group were doing. I thought I just didn't have tough enough shins!!!
Just found our your channel, this is the best carving tutorial i’ve EVER SEEN. I’ll definetly subscribe to you
Excellent video! Thanks!
Super breakdown and analysis that is well explained- Bravo!
Brilliant teaching technique. Taking the time to slowly explain and gently reinforce key concepts, not rushing through technique and terminology. Big kudos.
Great video! I think I’ve found out my problem. Gonna try it out this weekend.
Really really helpful thank you! As a newbie, quite frustrating yesterday feeling the skid while rest of family looked good and comfortable, this nails exactly my problem, leaning too much into shins, body balance, great tips and cues thank you!
Very practical and helpful tip. I’ve been getting really tired from my turns and it makes sense that I’m bearing more pressure on my legs when turning like subject 1 in your video. Will practice the full foot engagement and side foot focus with a subtle pressure on the shin today. Thanks a ton for the video. Unlocking a key ingredient for me.
Good job! one of the best ski videos I've seen
I am so excited to have seen this. I am an advanced skier who carves well but not great. I am frustrated by the plateau I can’t seem to break through. A problem I experience at the end of most days on the slopes is sore shins. The more challenging the slope, the more energy I put into the front of my boot. Next time out I plan on backing off on the shins while concentrating on dropping down and inward for more edge angle. I also still have a bit of A frame going on with my lower legs as well. It seems you have my number. Thanks so much!
Best breakdown of this issue I have seen. Well done and thank you!
Wow... Thankyou this made sense immediately! This will definitely help me ski longer with less leg cramping also! Thank you!
Tom, incredible breakdown! So digestible. Teaching is a skill, and you have a major talent in it. Towards the end I was thinking “I hope he goes over the right amount of shin pressure” and bam, he does. Thank you so much. Smart on Carv to put out these great lessons that implement their product.
Super helpful!! Thanks for the great explanation.
I do this as well and thought I was skiing correctly! I now know what to practice on, thank you!!!
Thank you so much for your tips. I greatly appreciate your style and excellent demonstration.
Really nice Video!!! I actually do the same mistake. Thanks for clarification on this important issue!!!
Great job man. One of the best videos that I saw!
Very good info, thx 👍
Hello Tom! Fantastic video! I have started using the Carv inner soles this week and am really enjoying the feedback. I have a score of 139 but I am having a hard time getting better. Actually, the harder I try the worse my score is getting. My biggest challenge here in Eastern Canada is carving on narrower courses without taking on too much speed. I end up cheating and letting the ski slide out to slow me down. Would you do a video to help me with this problem, or maybe you already covered this subject. There are many skiers at my level that seem to share this problem. Thanks and keep up the great work. Best ski videos I have ever seen.
Great tutorial video Tom. The drawing you add and the over lay of your skiing is very helpful. I would suggest Paula allow her forward speed to be more than doubled for a carved turn to happen. Paula could be working on short quick turns at the speed in her video, this would build strength and confidence and courage, if she needs more in those aspects of her skiing. Enjoy the speed and let the ski's turn on their edges in swooping carves 🤩
Thank you for this !! So super helpful to see this ' normal ' skier like me in the video.
Really informative video. Makes alot of sense on why I am washing out on steeper terrain. Never paid attention to foot pressure and keeping tails engaged.
Brilliant. Can’t wait to try this on the hill.
This is awesome 👌 👏 👍 best of the best ski instruction video. Thank you!!!
Thanks for the feedback Sarah!
We hope these tips are useful next time you hit the slopes 🎿
This is so nice and very clear explanation. Thank you.
Wish I’d watched this a fortnight ago. Have just spent a week in France parallel sliding down reds. Had fun though.
Such great guidance! So looking forward to all the new feedback from CARV this year.
Thanks Richard, see you on the slopes my friend!
I had exactly the same issue as Paula until I watched this video, which was causing major problems in my skiing and huge blisters on my heels. Thanks for the great tips!
Great advice on the shin, thank you!
When I ski, I always feel like I am working my way through a maze (always experimenting with body position, hip swing/sway, knee rotation, and edging). But I always feel that I am missing something when I edge. Your explanation of 'shin, ball, and heel" mechanics is excellent and helps me visualize where to focus my attention the next time I ski. (Hopefully tomorrow!) Thank you so very much.
Exceptional video, many thanks! I,d like to see someone explain/discuss the “uphill” foot drifting forward/ahead of the downhill foot starting roughly in the transition. It seems to me this is an absolute requirement for good control of BOTH skis. I think this is analogous to a parallel hard stop with skates; if the feet are matched fore & aft, the inside foot will chatter viciously on the ice. In order to effect the stop well, the inside foot must be forward. It would be great if you could do a video on this as I have never seen it mentioned and I don’t recall being taught this on any lesson I’ve had.
Wow, this guy is good! This is exactly where I am! 🎯 I will apply this the next time I am out there. Thank you!
This is exactly what I look like while skiing 😬🙄 I watch tons of videos about skiing, and this one has a bonus, I get to practice your advice indoors. Getting my ski boots now, thanks 🙏 :)))
Thank you very much!!! The best thing I have ever thin on this month
Awesome 🤩
i enjoyed the informed points for skiing ! thanks !
I'm pleasantly surprised by the quality of this lesson. I certainly agree with the less rushed approach into the turn. Shin pressure with "soft" boots would be interesting.
Thanks for the feedback 😊
We hope these tips help next time you hit the slopes!
Very informative. Your students are so lucky!
Thank you!
Glad you found this video useful Jose,
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The point about shin contact was really good. Usually I come back after a week on the mountain with bruised shins, I'm guessing that means I'm putting too much emphasis on the amount of shin pressure
More likely it means your boots don't fit properly. You're getting slap or shin bang.
it's a pain really as during beginner lessons you tend to be told to press into the front of the boot, as i guess it gets you over the initial "panic->lean back-> fall over" stage, but as you get better you realise that's not really correct and is actually holding you back. trying to re-learn what you've spent a week or more being told is correct makes it even harder!
Unreal video. Ty
Thank you! This is exactly what I needed and I'll try this season to go from parallel skidding to actual carv
We appreciate the feedback David!
All the best putting Tom’s tips into practice this winter 🎿
Amazing video on skiing technique!
This is exactly my problem! Thank you!!
You’re welcome Roberto!
All the best putting these tips into practice ⛷
Have a great winter ✌️
Love this!!!!
This video was crazy good. Thank you for making me understand why my turns are skidding instead of carving!
Best explanation yet of body position and balancing over the skis. Thank you.
Thank you!
This has been the most helpful video on technique teardown I have ever seen thus far. Often I find myself feeling lost and not able to understand the different jargon associated with skiing technique. Thanks Tom and Carv. I am definitely looking forward to hitting the mountain using this info and my Carv boot inserts.
Thanks Joe I have been really focused on keeping explanations clear and understandable so I’m so glad that this comes across in the video
Happy to help 🤩
Thanks again, Tom (and Paula). I've been struggling with understanding the fore-aft balance metric and was using shin pressure in an attempt to get forward pressure, even though I could feel that more shin pressure effectively meant lighter pressure on the ball of my foot. Although I'm not really skidding the turn, CARV would consistently highlight fore-aft balance following each run as something to work on. This advice made a lot more sense and has given me a different focus for improving this metric.
Hi there Ordinary World 👋
Thanks for your feedback.
We're really happy to hear that this video helped give you a better understanding of the balance metrics and now gives you a new focus for improvement!
Please do reach out and let us know how you get on putting it all into action this winter ⛷
@@CarvSki I had my first session of the season yesterday, mostly gentle half-mountain runs to get my "office-desk" legs back into it. Sadly, I was unable to make any inroads on the fore-aft balance, despite CARV trying several different training metaphors to get me to weight the heel more. In this session, I tried to worry less about getting the weight forward at the start, with more focus on the end of the turn. There were some occasional marginal improvements but often at the expense of the rest of my technique. I'll continue to watch and learn, and hopefully find that breakthrough moment!
Awesome video and well explained. Will practice at home. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for watching 👍
Thanks! This is what I needed
Excellent video - well done!
Thank you Tom!
Thanks for watching ✌️
All the best putting these tips into action ⛷
Brilliant edition and great explanation
Very helpful! Thank you! :)
So good!
We appreciate the feedback Mike!
Thanks for watching ⛷
Thank you for your professional tips. 🙏🏻
I’m the new subscriber 😁
Kinda opened this video thinking it will be boring without being on the slopes to correct in real time, turns out it was great insight, can't wait to test these tips out, thanks :)
Awesome tips thanks bro !
OMG. I thought that crushing my shin into the boot WAS the correct way. I actually thought that was more important than feeling the sole of my foot on the boot. Thanks for making this video.
This video will likely save my skiing next season as well as my HORRIBLE Morton’s neuroma in my foot. All the pressure on the ball of my feet from my technique being similar to hers. Wish I could try this out now.
Good job. Very useful comments.
Awesome video. I relate to this a lot and always been told it's about really pushing into the front of the boot. And then getting frustrated because I am doing that! I can feel the boot already. So bringing in the sole into this is going to change how I ski. Will practice tomorrow.
Glad you found it helpful! Stay tuned for more ski content 🎿
Excellent explanation of balance V forward pressure.
We really appreciate the feedback Hayley!
Thanks for watching 👍
I ask clients to count out loud from the start of the turn before they cross the line of gravity, it helps them be patient before putting any angle or pressure through the boot.