OFFICIAL Canon EOS R8 R50 Hands-On pREVIEW: BAD NEWS for SONY + NIKON!!!
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This is a pREVIEW of the Canon EOS R8 and Canon EOS R50. This truly does change everything and is bad news for Sony and Nikon. It's bad news because of many things. Price point, and features at that price point. These cameras might be "entry-level"...but they are LOADED!!!
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Gotta be honest, Canon is killing it, the R8 is such a good priced camera for the technology it offers. 👏👏
Canon bodies do seem really great to me (Sony shooter) but the big worry that keeps me uninterested is the lens situation.
@@angelamaloney4871 put EF-RF adaptor and done.
But the RF lenses costs arms and legs
@@billx4266 used EF don't. Just grab adapter and buy used EF.
@@eW0LF well, you can but they are meh, not exactly very cheap also, especially when you consider the quality you get for the price. I just wished Canon did not block 3rd party glass, new Sigmas and Samyangs on Canon would be awesome.
Love the EVF montage - it's probably the most accurate way to see how the camera performs in real-world scenarios
Love your videos! Thanks for reviewing the R8. Is the sensor exposed when a lens is off or does it have a retractable barrier to protect the shutter when swapping lenses?
Hmmm, after watching some other reviews I couldn’t find a reason for adding the R8 to my gear bag, but now after watching your review and highlighting some other things they didn’t or perhaps didn’t explain in detail I’m think I might have a need to add this to my bag of tricks! 😊 Thanks!
One of the things I missed when downgrading from the R5 to the RP was the ability to add cropping information (not aspect ratio), which would show guide lines and 'pre-crop' the RAW file when importing to LR. I liked being able to add cropping info for 5:4. Is that available for the R8?
Hi Jared. How were you able to display the lens focal length on the EVF? Is that supported across all Canon cameras? I have an M50 II.
Thanks Jared for the video. After seeing the difference between full auto and manual on the R50, I think a video of Dan/Stephen giving video quick tips would be interesting.
I have a R7 mainly for stills and I wouldn’t mind upgrading the quality footage of my videos🙃.
duded the R7 is a 34 megapixel and the R8 is a 24 megapixel
Some people just insist on buying the newest "thing"
Hi, first time seeing your work, I was researching the Canon R50 and found you. TERRIFIC content, very helpful, concise and well presented, thank you for making this!
Nice job boys on getting all this info out so fast! I'm very happy to see the lower price point as it should send a shock wave to the others!
price isn't low enough
What's that small monitor on top of the camera? It looks nifty and make shooting a lot easier to visualize. Thanks in advance! 😊
I like how your pages of notes are entirely highlighten (and not just some words or phrases) :D
Other than that, my only rant is that they didn't add the joystick to the R8 (though the upper low-end APS-C R10 has it), but it's understandable, as the level of convenience that that device brings can change the perception of the camera.
thanks so much Jared. I just discovered this camera today. I still have an old Sony rx100 ii which is lovely for its size but would be nice to step up. I can afford the new r50 when it's available. I enjoy traveling to parks (national and otherwise) and would like to have a good camera for video of my jazz group where a good mic can also be used.
What's MIND BLOWING is the pro 1DX mark 3 has a 20.1MP sensor (same as the R6 mark 1) and that camera still sells for $6,500!! That one also has no IBIS, and a slower autofocusing system. Now you can buy a better camera than that (basically what Peter McKinnon started his whole career with [1dx mk2]) for an absolute fraction of the cost with so much more!! I love that the R8 is light and easy carry, and I won't be too scared to take it out on every day occasions. Buying one to replace my R6 mark 1 as I just shoot for fun.
this was a solid pReview of the cameras... the edit, content and details comparison at this level of time with the cameras was fantastic.. I am out the only video that I am going to watch today about R50 and R8
Hey Fro, maybe I missed it but how long does it take to clear the buffer shooting in raw?
thanks to both for the production value of this trip
quick question ... I am just getting back into photography and I think the R8 is a perfect start, however ... I've always loved sigma lenses. Have you done a review on the Sigma FP or FP L?
Thanks! How are the colors on this camera for video? Are they the same as the Canon R5 out of camera?
We're at a point to where all of the major cameras out right now are great in most situations (low light, DR, etc...) that it's less about image quality and more about features and price. The main limitation in shooting is always the shooter
What would you recommend for someone looking to upgrade from a 7D MK1 (and have a lot of glass to suit already). While I am only serious amateur, doing portraits & landscapes & I like to get creative. I also use the camera for doing photo shoots & build stories on customers cars (modified/race etc). And do shoot car shows & motorsports. Also keep in mind, I am in Australia, so prices are vastly different.
Looking to get my first camera for conematic B roll Sony zve10 or the R50? Any input is helpful!
Nikone Z9 user here, and I have to admit it: Canon is killing it. Well done!!!
Nikon Z6ii user here, I agree, I also believe Nikon will get us there as well , soon. Either way Canon and Nikon are king.
Nikon Z8 will be a killer for sure
@Jared Polin Great review! Thank you! One thought to add…. You mentioned several times, what Canon needed to leave out to reduce cost. There is another factor SIZE! I shoot with the R5. My wife shoots with the RP. Not because of cost, but physical size for her smaller hands. Something to keep in mind for the differently handed. :-) We will definitely be upgrading her to the R8 as soon as we can get it!
Thanks again for the review - especially the physical comparisons to the RP!
What kind of electronic viewfinder do you use for your Canon camera please (name brand & model)?
great video. one question should i upgrade from canon eos r to r8?
Can't wait to see the comparison between the R7 & R8. I've been using 7D Mk II to shoot skateboarding since 2015
Good Stuff....need to get a back up body to my R6....will see if this is the one or get the M6II....
GREAT Video! Thanks! I shoot with the Canon R5. I still have my 5D Mark IV as my backup, so I still need to hang on to all my EF lenses. After watching your R8 review, I am thinking maybe I should get the R8 as my backup camera instead of buying another R5 as a backup. What do you think? I am only nervous about having only one memory slot. But if the R8 is my backup camera in the event, the R5 fails it's probably worth the risk. And the R8 takes up so little space!! What do you think?
I currently have the EOS RP and was thinking of getting the R8. I am in no way a professional I am an average joe taking photos at disneyland and so on. Would it be an upgrade in your opinion? And Would you upgraded from the RP? TIA
Hi Jared, you say that you don't have a wider lens for handheld vlogging with the crop-sensor R50 than the RF-S 18-45 ? well how about you use the EF-S 10-18 IS STM with the EF-R adapter ? Ultrawide and still rather lightweight.
As a Canon user for a decade who switched to Sony 2 years ago, I have to say I've never lost faith in Canon cameras. I was priced out of their lenses. I can't justify the premium of Canons lenses or GM for that matter when the Sigma art line exists.
I mean even the gm lenses are cheaper than canons counterparts. But I completely agree with you. Canon is shooting their own foot with this strategy. They at least need to focus on mid range to budget glass. The other issue I see is they only have to compete with themselves so they won’t have to make better glass for cheaper like Sony does with sigma/tamron. Third party glass just help breed better lenses for a better price. Which I feel like canons mid range/budget options will be trash so people buy their red ring..
@@mrwashur1991 and in the future, their lenses will be only red rings, and they will turn into another Leica
Didn’t even see this coming 👀🔥🔥🔥
A first party battery grip with pogo pins, and vertical shutter, would be a great addition to this camera. Especially if it worked on both cameras.
Canon are unlikely to do it. They already have some pro sports shooters using the Mark 1 R6 instead of the R3 or 1dx3. They want pros/enthusiasts to buy the R6,R5,R3 or (when it comes) R1. Those cameras [will] have vertical grip option or built-in, but they are not cheap.
When Canon becomes serious about competition it will perhaps be too late. Maybe then they will release some much desired equipment, for example the RF70-200 f2.8 (or even other L telephotos) with a black rather than steal-me white option. They already brought back eye control focus from the EOS 3, much improved too.
The lens line up is going to take some time though imo. It is missing the lighter (than f1.2) ~f1.4 primes and f4 zooms that most non-full timers might be interested in, and their cheaper stuff e.g. 8f f2 lacks the quality and build of the better lenses in the L or GM range. In fact, there's not a single RF lens that I want (over EF equivalent) in my pack yet because my ideal line up is 20 f2.8L, 35 f1.4L and 85 f1.4 L, and all must weight less than 800g and be less than 4 inches long (or might as well use EF). If I moved to Sony I could buy the lenses I want. The only thing that is putting me off is Sony bodies don't feel as nice in my hand, and the menu system has a font that makes it harder to read and get used to.
I just sold my RP I needed a bit more this would’ve been perfect though lol these are dope. That R50 mode is probably for someone who wants to learn manual but not really sure where to start.
Jared what is your opinion on RP vs R50?? Which one for let’s say tennis shots
Does this new camera have exposure bracketing? Ive only had Nikons and they've all had it. Great review Jared! Thankyou
It does
What is the brand of the video monitor that’s attached to your camera?
Dear Jared, I see you mention the extension grip for the R8. Is that the same extension grip as for the RP ? Canon EG-E1 Extension Grip ? If so, could you please verify if the Neewer or Vello battery grip for RP is compatible for the R8 ? That would be awesome, as it seems for now Canon does not offer a battery grip ( 4 years later they still don't for the RP ). Thanks for your time.
Always "right on" target!🎯
Thx JP
Oh wow this looks great!
Im still on my canon 80D, but I have been wanting to move to 4k full frame for so long. I have been very close to getting sony fx3 or sony fx30 (and better lenses), but now I think my eyes are set on R8
I’ll be really interested in your R7 vs R8 comparison as I’m looking to upgrade from a SL3 but still want to use my mix of EF and EF-S lenses and upgrade them over time. It would be great to know which direction to go in.
The R8 is more similar to the R10. It's basically the full frame version of the R10. Same FPS, same megapixels etc. But it's full frame instead of APS-C. The R7 is more like an APS-C version of the R6. Whether you should go with R7 or R8, you should ask yourself what you consider most important to you: IBIS, full mechanical shutter and extra reach (R7) or better low light performance, more shallow depth of field, higher image quality and dynamic range (R8). Also keep in mind the lack of crop lenses available for the R7 (for now, you'd have to use exclusively full frame lenses, which don't function as well on crop sensor cameras).
@@leonardlevine1254 reread his post, he wants to continue to use his ef and efs lenses.
@@cmet8280 Whatever I said still applies. If he wants to use his full frame lenses, it's better to do so on a full frame body. He can keep the SL3 (250D) to use with his EF-S lenses.
@@leonardlevine1254 I am not sure what you mean. My RF 100-500 is lighter than EF lenses from Canon or third parties, lens IS synchronizes well with the R7 IBIS, the dual focus motors are exquisitely responsive, and image quality is breathtaking. I am thrilled by the combination for birds and wildlife.
@@wellingtoncrescent2480 Yeah of course it will work perfectly fine. I use all of my RF glass on my R10 as well without issues. But the image quality is not as perfect on the APS-Cs as it is on full frames. This shows up time and time again in testing (check Christopher Frosts test with the RF 100-500). You are not using the full capabilities of that lens on the R7, and you are carrying extra weight and glass that you aren't making use of it.
Damn! You were right around the corner from me. I'm in Myrtle Beach. You guys should come here and shoot some motorcross sometime. We have some big races coming in March. Great video btw!
Great video, I like r8 but this little battery 🔋 I can’t understand.
I shoot basketball, portraits (studio) and events.
I currently have a Canon 77d and was looking to upgrade to the R6 (I cannot afford the R6 II).
Now that I see the R8, I think it makes more sense than the R6, am I wrong?
I wouldn't use IBS because I shoot at 1/1000 for basketball and otherwise I use studio lights.
Hey Jared... does the R50 have a clean hdmi out so it can be used for live streaming?
On another note can't you use the efs 10-18mm adapted?
I think so. But I guess you could adapt but would add a lot of size
Hi Jarred, may I know wheter the extension grip of RP can be use for R8? I saw in your video that the R8 is having an extension grip, so I wonder whether it is the same RP grip. Thanks!
Yup same EG-E1 grip as RP
I live in the Charleston area and love shooting at Magnolia Plantation. I have an annual membership and go often. The old rice field is a great place to get shots of wading birds, eagles, and gators. I had to laugh at the deer and pig. They used to have a food dispenser that you could get a small amount of food to give to the critters. They had to stop because they were being overfed. Unfortunately, they also have learned to associate people with food handouts and can still get pretty aggressive looking for food. My daughter had a deer try and eat part of her camera bag. At least it wasn't one of the gators.
It is said that r8 is not able to autofocus at 4k60fps. Is it ture?
Does the old hack to the EXIF data let you open the raw files in lightroom?
I'm a landscape photographer who is still using an EOS-R. I didn't go to the R6 because I didn't want to lose 10mp, especially when i often have to crop.. I was intrigued when the R6MkII came out, and it's still on my radar. I love the R, and the only things that are making me even consider a new body is HDR and IBIS. When shooting HDR with the R, you have a long "Busy" message while the camera is processing the images, during which you can't do anything. I've used an R6, and the HDR processing in it is almost instantaneous. Mark one up for the R6/R6Mkii. I would like to have IBIS, which the R6/R6Mkii have, and the R8 does not. Not a deal breaker on getting the R8, but it's a thing.
So, do I plunk down $1500 for an R8, or $2500 for the R6Mkii? The deal breaker for the R8 is the battery. I spend a lot of time in the field, so I may change batteries many times during a day long shoot, and to make that possible, I have 5 batteries for the R, that will also work on the R6/R6 ii. I don't want a lower capacity battery, and I don't want to have to buy 4 or 5 new batteries. Sorry, but the R8 is out for me, and it's a shame...
Honestly, I'm looking to buy a camera that does everything well, i thought the R50 would be a solid upgrade over an iPhone, but looking at that sample vlog you showed, i think my money would be better invested on a R8 when i can afford it
It has likely more to do with the lens than the camera/sensor. The 18-45 kit lens is quite bad.
saw some pretty heavy warping when you you panned around 27:30.
Wonder if it’s any better or worse than the Sony zve10.
As a student looking to make the jump to full-frame from my Canon 1300d of nearly 6 years, this seems like a god-send.
What type of vertical grip has used for r8 can u tell me
Would you consider this an upgrade for someone who has the original EOS R and does primarily photography??
I started my business out of the RP and I was wondering when the RP mark II will come out . Well now I have my answer the R8 is the RP mark II and sincerely I would give word by word the same piece of advice to the community. If you are starting your path into the pro world and you are in budget invest on the R8, good glass and good speed light. As for me today I reached a level that I need (outside of the studio) the duel SD slot? And the SD slot being on the side, and the bigger batteries.
How are the stills on the Aspc camera?
I think it’s worth mentioning that if you want the dual card slots, ibis, better battery and joystick, but at the same price point, you have have the r7 as a fantastic option
The counter is the crop sensor versus full frame. They do have different places in the market (I only use crop bodies, just for the record), so it's not a 1-to-1 exchange..
It's not an option if you want better image quality. The R7 image quality is supposed to be good, but I'll trust that when I see it for myself. I've been hoodwinked by some of these reviews recently
@@Bad_Wolf_Media of course it’s not a 1 to 1 trade off… at $1500 you’ve gotta give up something. The point is, you can still get a very good camera with those more pro body features and not spend $1000 to go up to an r6ii
@@simonmaduxx6777 the fact of the matter is, any modern interchangeable lens camera is gonna deliver fantastic image quality, going to a crop sensor isn’t just gonna make your images turn to shit. But if what you truly value is the best image quality at $1500, you gotta give up things like ibis, battery, dual card slots and an autofocusing joystick.
PERSONALLY, I would gladly give up the stop of image quality (low light performance and dynamic range) to have a more fully functioning body.
Z5
Hi, R7 or R8? For travel videos and some photos. What's your rec.
What equipment did you use to record your viewfinder cause in the future im looking to make some POV videos
Atomos ninja V hdmi recorder
Every beginner photographer should be grabbing the R8 as fast as humanly possible and investing in high end glass for the future. That R8 is INSANE.
This will be my first beginners camera.
How is a $1,500 camera without IBIS insane?
How is a $1,500 camera for beginners?
@@thisisbenji90 you can get s5ii for only 500$ more and you get access to great sigma glass. it's actually insane that people think r8 is a good deal
@@sergeyzakharov7326 if you insist 4k60 uncropped is a must, you need to look at Z9 in Nikon land, or Sony a7siii at a minimum. How is the cheapest full frame having it not insane? The list goes on. If you shoot night wildlife, AF capability of R8 is unmatched under 2k5. Don't dream about IBIS going to help you in fast shutter speed and animals move all the time. How is that not insane? Even you just have a young kid at an uncooperative age, R8 is going to give you more confidence than any camera from Nikon or Panasonic to snap sharp photos with kids action.
Please tell me the R8 is made in japan and not outsourced to philippines or wherever ..
I have an RP, financially sound like the R8 is the one for me. Great job with the specs
I guess supply and demand will be spread out amongst a wide range of different degree, from beginner to midrange and professional. Also a plus not being forced into a few over capable and priced bodies for beginners in which cost and availability can make or break a sale. With the fact all can use the RF mount and I assume the adapter will work with the EF lens without having a separate type of lens mount (EF-M ).also a plus.
Just ordered this camera to upgrade from the RP. Love the video, but I wouldn’t told that guy to remove that whole laptop he had in his back pocket 😂 working on doing photos with people soon and moving away from landscape for a bit so hopefully the R8 will work well for me.
So basically compared to the Z5, if you need the best AF the R8 smokes it. However, the Z5 still has IBIS so it’s probably better for more static shots?
Does dual pixel autofocus work for 4K in R8?
do you prefer a v90 to use with the R8 or will a v60 work?
Is it worth getting the Control Ring Adapter with the R8?
I've been looking at the Sony a7c for my daughter so she can Vlog her construction business. Now this Canon R8 comes out, so I'm glad I didn't get the Sony...yet. I have shot Canon for 45 years but know absolutely nothing about video, and my daughter knows nothing about cameras. I have the R and all RF L glass. I'm looking for other people's opinions here...Will the R8 be better than the Sony a7c for vlogging? I appreciate your input. Thanks!
I love how Steven be creeping behind you with his camera LOL. The R8 looks pretty good.
So hard to get b-roll while also staying out of his shot, ha!
I have m6 mark ii because of your review before 3years ago...
But now want to buy this eos r version😅😅😅
Is it worth it to change??
I'm a hobbyist. I'm planning to upgrade from 77d to R7 but with the intro of R8 I'm so confused.
More features of R7 like IBIS, dual card slot vs R8 full frame.
My current lens are Tamron 70-200 f2.8 G2 and Tamron 35mm f1.4.
Who is that grip made by?thanks
i am excited fro the R50's release. Quite sad as i bought the M50 just 2 years ago however this is all a part of development. Looking forward to the real world review
Why? It's not an upgrade IMO
Body has only minor improvements, RFS lenses are heavier, more expensive and most are actually worse than their EF-M counterparts. Not to mention the lenses are limited and no third party lenses.
The M50 is the much better proposition when talking value. The R50 Is pretty much an M50 mk II with an RF mount
What do you guys think about using an EFM-adapter to the R8 combining the R8 with the Sigma 16mm f/1.4? Will that work well or is it just a bad idea?
I'm using nikon 3300d .. can I move this canon r8 ?
@Jared, I‘d love to see a comparison between the R8 and a R6 m1 as they are now priced at a same level - up for it? ( :
Is the RP worth getting today after the release of R8? I want a beginner camera for travel/landscape/portrait. My budget is $2500 was planning on grabbing the RP along with Canon RF 24-105mm f/4 L IS USM & RF 50mm 1.8 stm
If you're shooting video the R8 beats RP substantially. Auto focus in the R8 will be significantly better too.
I am looking to get into photography so I want something semi decent. My budget is around 800-900 pounds. Can push a bit more if it’s a close call for something that is much better for a 100/200 pounds or so more. I have been looking at the Sony zv-e10. The canon r50 or sony a6000. Or the Nikon d7500. So much choice it’s very confusing. Did have a look if you had a vid for best budget ish cam in 2023 to start with. Want something that is good so I stick with it. Hence the price point. Cause if I go for this price point I have to stick with it coz a 1000 is a lot for something I haven’t done before but I’m up for it. Thank you for any replies
How important is IBIS for photography?
I agree, R8 is probably a bigger deal for Canon than R6 ii, which I just bought. This is an excellent camera to start with FF. A $1000 put in a better lens will give much better quality photos than a better body would do, especially when the sensor and AF are the same.
Yup, lens is way important than the body.. ibis is also a plus for both lens and body.. the digital IS on the r8 crops the image, so there goes that full frame idea, also when paning left to right quickly you get that wobbly warp on the side when shooting video.
I'm not sure if I missed it, but for the R8, is there going to be cropping in the videos when shooting in 4k like the Canon EOS-R?
Nope, same video as R6 Mark II, full width 4k oversampled from 6k with full AF
@@stepheneckert4006 thanks. I'm pretty much sold.
Thank you, Jared! I've been considering moving to a mirrorless system and the R8 seems to be a viable option. Thank you again!
I see the R50 as the "cheap" vlogger camera and the R8 as the "RP Mk2" and somewhat the higher end, more capable vlogger camera.
The fact that IBIS is missing means you dont get the IBIS wobble at all, and digital stabilizer + RF lens stabe on the RF 35 or 24 does its job great
Hi Jared, thx for this video! But is it true that the EOS R8 shoot in 14bit even in 20fps mode? I have an EOS R6 Mark II and I believe R6m2 only shoot in 12bit when it set on electronic shutter.
We misspoke there, it’s 14-bit in electronic 1st curtain and 12-bit in all electronic modes, same as R6 II
@@stepheneckert4006 Thank you Stephen!
Ive been thinking of changing over to mirrorless for a while. The R8 could be the camera that makes me do it. One question is it weather sealed?
According to another reviewer it's got a modest amount of weather sealing, but not as much as the R5 or R6.
16:30 pics are awesome, essentially key shots for wedding days! Jared starting wedding photo business + catered fried chicken menu?
I agree, invest in the best Memory Cards. I also use Prograde. I use the 256gb V60s but I do photos only so dont need the V90......probably dont need 256gb either but for the price difference from the 128gb why not. Lol.
Damn I wish I paid attention I live in Charleston would have loved to meet you guys.
What is about battery life issue ???
Have you done a real world review of the R6 II? Haven't come across it yet.
for vlogging, one might use Canon RF 15-30mm f/4.5-6.3 IS STM Lens which you forgot about
So should I go for the R8 or buy the Canon R from my friend for $500 or just get the R5 as my original plan once my tax return comes in March.
I shoot portraits outdoor/indoor , Events parties , weddings. And a lot of action events. Sport games car racing etc
Copy the EXIFs of any R6 II RAW File to a R8 RAW File and you are good to go and can open the Files in Lr.
Wow! That price. I'm still using my 10 year old 6D. Might have to check it out.
Do you guys shoot C-Log or C-Log3 on the R5 for these videos?
We do not.
Considering the R6MkII is a camera which will better meet the needs of non-professionals for years to come it would be a better long term value than the R8, that is of course if you could find the R6MkII at B&H and other major retailers. I’ve been waiting to buy one for over a month now. A few days ago B&H showed it arriving on 2/14 but now it the status is backordered.
At 14:00 with the image stabilization issue of NO IBIS in the body itself of the R8, that actually really SHOULDN'T MATTER as the camera is light enough that you can use those cheap $70 Amazon Special camera stabilization systems that just use a fancy weight on an inexpensive gimbal joint to keep the camera steady.
I used that cheap gimbal on an RP and it worked just fine! Completely smooth and steady shot even with cars whizzing by and the shaking of bridges. Ironically, I have access to EVERYTHING on the market I could ever want (i.e. 1Dx3, Arri-FF, Sony Venice, In-house 16K, etc) BUT I like my old M5 and the RP the best for my personal work when I have no room to keep a big camera with me. I also use a fancy 64 Megapixel smartphone and a 120 megapixel smartphone and those are starting to catch up to even the bigger cameras.
I would like to see a Canon M5 style camera combined with a full touchscreen Android smartphone back! I don't care if it's a full inch or more thick! Just give me the biggest APS-C Canon sensor possible on a smartphone with ALL the smartphone features and calling/internet/gaming abilities we take for granted! It will sell like hotcakes when they do that!
I do know APPLE is working on a monster-size APS-C sensor smartphone that looks like it's using a 48 Megapixel Sony Exmor RS APS-C sensor for best daylight image quality and pixel binning for STUPENDOUS 24 megapixel super-low-light capable images, so Canon better get cooking!
Apple personnel have secretly said they can keep the phone to less than 10 mm thick using some focal plane manipulation using photosite-based micro-lens trickery on the FIRST APS-C sensor in a smartphone! Other people in smartphone engineering circles have said Apple may have a second line of high end imaging-oriented smartphone used for different purposes much like Canon's old-style 1Dx versus 1Dc line where one line was stills and the other for cinema. Apple LOOKS LIKE it may do the same by having one smartphone line for "Normal" iPhones and another line for the video / cinematographers and still photo experts that have high megapixels (i.e. greater than 120 megapixels!) and/or much larger image sensor sizes (i.e. APS-C).
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Would the R8 be a replacement for the M50 aswell?