Nissan CVT: Teardown and Failure Analysis - Part 1

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  • čas přidán 19. 06. 2017
  • So now, after getting the 2010 Nissan Rogue back on the road with a new CVT installed, we finally have a chance to answer the most important question:
    Why did the original CVT fail in the first place??
    In PART 1 (this video) we start the teardown of the original CVT. The further we dig, the more carnage we find. But this is just the tip of the iceberg...
    In PART 2, we complete the teardown and analyze the sequence of events to find the ROOT CAUSE of the failure:
    • Nissan CVT: Teardown a...
    Part 2 also includes a description of operation of this CVT, as well as discussing the "weakest links" and possibly explaining why so few of these transmissions make it to 200k miles.
    Is it a design flaw, or lack of maintenance?
    You will not see this type of information and failure analysis anywhere else. This is engineering-level stuff, and my true passion for finding faults in a broken system/device.
    As always, I appreciate all the support, comments, and feedback!
    Enjoy!
    -Ivan
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  • @wyattoneable
    @wyattoneable Před 7 lety +269

    You took a chance losing $800 by tearing apart. I for one really appreciate that. It's was interesting to see what failed and why. Well done Ivan. See you again on part two.

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  Před 7 lety +26

      Thanks Wyatt! I figured a lot of viewers would be interested to follow along and see what makes this thing tick, and also why it stopped ticking so suddenly :D

    • @upallnight888
      @upallnight888 Před 7 lety +10

      When you snap a bike chain you not going anywhere, the same principle applies to a CVT chain.

    • @icyuranus404
      @icyuranus404 Před 7 lety +2

      WHEW NO FEAR IVAN TEARING THAT DOWN TAKES SOME BALLZ BUT THANKS FOR MAKING IT A LITTLE LESS SCARY. GUESS YOU'LL BE RIDING THE BIKE AROUND FOR A WHILE

    • @Ashoud_Anobetah
      @Ashoud_Anobetah Před 6 lety +10

      how about losing $35k???? thats what i'm in the hole for with 2 failed cvt units on a pathfinder :(

    • @Ashoud_Anobetah
      @Ashoud_Anobetah Před 6 lety +1

      nope. you can still roll home, my pathfinder had to be towed... $35K wasted on a junk car

  • @josephdunton3651
    @josephdunton3651 Před 5 lety +7

    Ivan,
    I want to thank you so much for your videos regarding the replacement/teardown of the Rogue CVT. My 2008 failed in exactly the same way yours did, at 188k. (Incidentally, I thought you might like to know I changed the fluid every 60k and only got 2k more miles than you did). I tore mine down and overhauled it. I replaced the ball bearings in the variators with hardened dowel pins, rebuilt the main pump with an improved valve by Transgo, and put a new belt in it. Honestly, it was a bit scary but it has been two months/2500 miles and it goes good! Total cost was about $600. Your removal/installation videos were a huge help showing what I was in for! Much appreciated and I love your channel! Keep up the great work!

  • @mikeoneill7360
    @mikeoneill7360 Před 6 lety +9

    My first CVT opening.....lasting 180k + plus miles with new technology is not that bad.
    Improvements in the technology might warrant longer lasting CVT’s.
    One of the best instructional videos I have ever seen, nice job.....

  • @rickj1983
    @rickj1983 Před 4 lety +11

    You amaze me with your knowledge and skill but also the fact you're willing to tear apart an $800 core simply to inform us. That's really cool. Love your videos.

    • @christurner6430
      @christurner6430 Před 2 lety +2

      This is telling us to change CVT transmission fluid every 2 years or 25,000 miles !!!!!

    • @sarahnicol1668
      @sarahnicol1668 Před rokem

      The true meaning of COMMUNITY🥲

  • @MIKEL843
    @MIKEL843 Před 7 lety +263

    I used to work as Nissan tech, Nissan's policy (at least when it comes to warranty) is that no one is allowed to tear down and rebuild CVT transmissions.
    The belt is what usually fails and failures are quite common, they also can fail at fairly low mileage.
    I'm really surprised you got that many miles out of it.
    I know that Nissan had to extend the warranty on certain model years because of the high rate of failures.
    Nissan overall in terms of quality is nowhere near the automaker they were in the 80s and 90s, things really went downhill when they partnered with Renault.
    Anything they have built after 02 is quite bad actually, quality standards are very low.
    Great video btw.

    • @blintorzabat5798
      @blintorzabat5798 Před 5 lety +19

      Yeah, if they would make inspection/replacement of the belt a maintenance item, then a lot of people who swear to never buy CVTs would change their minds about that, myself included. (Heck, they are pretty simple, compared to a planetary gear autobox.) Because I have no problem with how they drive, but don't want to have to deal with sudden failure, say in the middle of Death Valley, not LOLing.

    • @danielfitzgerald9008
      @danielfitzgerald9008 Před 5 lety +8

      Is there any way lubricating to try to prevent it. Can you run different fluids something like man said metal can only Flex so much before it snaps. I work at a printing company and I think I pallet straps are thicker than that. Aaw man twisting things back and forth twice and they break. I bought a 61000 mile Nissan Maxima about 3 months ago I wish I knew what I was getting myself into I ain't had any problems yet might be time to trade that sucker back in

    • @bryanchaps3647
      @bryanchaps3647 Před 5 lety +19

      Blame the French they suck.

    • @jimmyjohn9792
      @jimmyjohn9792 Před 5 lety +8

      which is a shame because renault really is amazing. Providing the powerplant for the majority of cars on formula 1 circuits. Too bad they cant take their amazing engineering and put it into passenger cars.

    • @bryanchaps3647
      @bryanchaps3647 Před 5 lety

      @@agems56 So true.

  • @Qusin111
    @Qusin111 Před 5 lety +35

    I call these transmissions "slot machines" because of the wonderful sounds :)

    • @georgeswindolljr1980
      @georgeswindolljr1980 Před 4 lety

      Qusin111 that’s awesome!!!! LOL

    • @johnnywaffles2482
      @johnnywaffles2482 Před 4 lety +5

      @@georgeswindolljr1980 or because sometimes they last 186k miles or they go at 50k. It's a gamble

  • @SmittySmithsonite
    @SmittySmithsonite Před 7 lety +1

    I called it! In the Part 2 removal vid. Was second guessing myself after someone reminded me that you had lost oil pressure, but the oil pump must drive off the secondary. Having owned snowmobiles and atvs with a much simpler system, the mode of failure sounded exactly the same - no sound, just an instant neutral.
    This is a great vid! Thanks for taking the time to show all of this. You'll have 100k+ views in no time on this one I'd bet.

  • @chrisbentleywalkingandrambling

    I'll preface this with 'I'm not a mechanic' but I'm amazed by your knowledge and how you approach each job. This tear down is enthralling. To me it's like you are sneaking another language but I really love how you explain everything to people with my level of knowledge. Great video Ivan.

  • @stuzman52
    @stuzman52 Před 7 lety +4

    Fantastic video series Ivan! Although there was a lot of work involved in getting the transmission in and out, you saved yourself a lot of money. And what a mess inside that transmission! 👍

  • @Rookie_DIY
    @Rookie_DIY Před 7 lety +3

    Awesome work Ivan. Its cool to see it getting teared down. Great cliffhanger. Cheers!

  • @PrinceRafa2024
    @PrinceRafa2024 Před 6 lety +1

    I learned so much from watching this video compared to the animated videos that use them technical words in a computer generated voice. Thanks for uploading this. I love it.

  • @theoldwizard998
    @theoldwizard998 Před 7 lety +100

    I actually worked on a product design team on an early prototype metal belt CVT back in the mid-80s. I worked on the electronics and software but new the basics of the mechanical and hydraulic systems. If the belt has seen that kind of damage, the sheaves are likely scored. Tolerances between the sheaves and the little metal wedges that make up the push belt are CRITICAL. Likely the sheaves would have to be replaced.
    Dark oil is usually a sign of excessive clutch material worn off or excessive temperature. Almost nothing else would cause dark oil
    My guess is that root cause was failure to properly control the line pressure. This of course controls the force on the sheaves. If there is ANY slippage, it is "game over" !!

    • @rjright7373
      @rjright7373 Před 5 lety +6

      I bought a cheap 2010 Cube, the transmission just previously underwent a 'rebuild' attempt (very difficult process since parts are unavailable, especially the secondary pulley!! ) The secondary pulley was damaged and in this model Cube that pulley has an extra sensor on it which was damaged as well, argh!! , the pulley was repaired (attempted @ machine shop) but that didn't work, and this is the point that I purchase the Cube for $600. and start mucking about with it. I'm currently pondering a bit of a conversion Using a transmission from the smaller Nissan car (forget the name...) hoping I found a Non-CVT tranny but no such luck. I bought the transmission for $300 (comes without the 3rd sensor) only to discover (after paying) that it has a bad bearing at one of the output shaft bearing to the drivers side I think it was. I have the Cube transmission out already but It's winter here and I put the project aside until spring perhaps but I was disappointed to see that bad bearing. Obviously I will have to change some electronics like the ECM, and perhaps part of the harness from the donor car for the ignition and computer for it all to work so to trick the Cube into thinking it was the other vehicle without reprogramming anything at a dealer;
      I was full steam ahead until I saw the bad bearing so Now I have to take that transmission apart and decide what to do... I could relate more about these failures but perhaps not at this particular reply as I've taken up enough space and this area my words will not be seen as much.

    • @MrHemi4spd
      @MrHemi4spd Před 5 lety +5

      better just to torch it for insurance money and walk away

    • @rjright7373
      @rjright7373 Před 5 lety

      Secondary pulley seal can't take the constant pressure and vibration and especially when the fluid gets hot and dirty like transmission lady lol.

    • @Greatdome99
      @Greatdome99 Před 5 lety +2

      Dark oil is mostly likely caused by overheating of the oil, not by metal particles.

    • @eksine
      @eksine Před 5 lety

      @@rjright7373 a bearing is easy, just find a company that can make that bearing or already has it for sale

  • @QuentinQuatermass
    @QuentinQuatermass Před 5 lety +3

    Thank you for this excellent video of a teardown of the Rogue CVT. I liked looking over a great mechanic's shoulder as you dove into this project. Smart to video this, too, you'll have a better shot of getting it back together well enough to get your core charge back!

  • @Cumminslife
    @Cumminslife Před 7 lety +6

    Thanks the the video Ivan! Can't wait for part 2

  • @danielfitzgerald9008
    @danielfitzgerald9008 Před 5 lety

    Awe man part 2??? Wth i was getting in to this.
    You got one more subscriber tonight buddy great work!!
    This is the best video I think I've ever seen on CZcams

  • @jimtyrrell1
    @jimtyrrell1 Před 4 lety +1

    Great video! Thanks for showing us a transmission that I have always been curious about wanted to see what makes it tic. Great photography and narrative.

  • @somerandomguy3868
    @somerandomguy3868 Před 7 lety +3

    what we have here is the standard drive belt falure this part performed as designed up to and including falure I know what's waiting and still won't miss part 2 as always lvan great video

  • @samaanam76
    @samaanam76 Před 3 lety +3

    According to your intensive demonstration, I think the cause of that CVT failure is the wear of guide balls/grooves of the pulley due to the bad fluid.
    Thank you for your very informative video.

  • @ssevier1149
    @ssevier1149 Před 5 lety +2

    Thanks for doing this; it was really cool to see how this all went to heck in a handbasket; couldn't believe the amount of metal you found in the oil pan

  • @foxprogt
    @foxprogt Před 7 lety +1

    Excellent tear down! Im driving a 07 Nissan Murano and i hope to at-least get to 150k before the cvt goes out. Gives me a good visual of what will go wrong if it ever does. Thanks for posting this.

  • @riblets1968
    @riblets1968 Před 4 lety +4

    What's truly appalling about CVTs is not the fact that they can break, but rather the lack of serviceability. Ivan is correct that it's an inherent design flaw but only if it cannot be easily and reasonably cheaply changed out, which is the case today for virtually all CVTs. In a world closer to ideal, changing out a belt and pulley set would take a couple hundred (US) bucks and a couple of hours, and be performed perhaps every 80,000 miles or so. This is no worse than an engine timing belt in terms of downtime and expense. Most people could live with that. Moreover, the fuel savings realized by a CVT could pay for this maintenance several times over!
    But what the fuel savings cannot even begin to make a dent is having to swap out a $6,000 transmission in a car whose depreciated value cannot justify such an expense. Welcome to disposable car culture. I could even live with disposable cars if they weren't so damned expensive! Gee whiz!

  • @williamallen2817
    @williamallen2817 Před 7 lety +4

    Thank you for video, looking fwd. to #2 ! You may of found a gold mine, in re-manufacturing push belts !

  • @John-McAfee
    @John-McAfee Před rokem

    Ivan, you're the most brilliant mechanic I've seen. It sucks you're not in my state. Pennsylvania is lucky to have someone as good as you.

  • @locomotives2800
    @locomotives2800 Před 5 lety +1

    Thanks for taking time. Great explaination!

  • @MegaGrahamo
    @MegaGrahamo Před 7 lety +17

    as soon as i knew about the problems with nissan cvt i sold my car with only 30,000 miles on it i heard about some cars having these problems with a lot fewer miles

    • @danielfitzgerald9008
      @danielfitzgerald9008 Před 5 lety

      MegaGrahamo you're not for Pennsylvania are ya lol

    • @MainMite06
      @MainMite06 Před 4 lety +3

      just Graham
      What car did you own? Why would you sell off a car with 30k miles and no reported issues?

  • @sethc758
    @sethc758 Před 5 lety +12

    Look up the ATSG JF011E repair manual book it covers those jatco cvts. Probably $30 on Amazon.

  • @shadowtheguarddog
    @shadowtheguarddog Před 2 lety +1

    So Ivan, It has been 4+ years since you created this series. I have to say that your videos were great as they relate to the average DIY guy who has a little confidence in doing stuff like this. I’m one of those guys. I may have to work on a 2016 Rogue and you made it seem very doable. So thank you so much. One thing I might have done while you were in there is to replace the starter. I’m glad you did not pursue the pickle fork on the CVT axel. Not a cheap part! BTW, you two are a cute couple.Happy New Year 21/22.

  • @dil6969
    @dil6969 Před 7 lety +1

    Interesting. Makes sense it would be the main belt. It is under the greatest amount of stress. Still pretty impressed yours made it to nearly 200k. Seeing lots of videos of Nissan CVTs with similar failures well under 60k miles.
    I can certainly understand you taking this risk with your core charge. I did transmission tear down and rebuilding in tech school and it was super fun. Failure analysis is fascinating to do, as it gives you a better understanding of how it works and the typical failure mode.

  • @timothybarney7257
    @timothybarney7257 Před 7 lety +8

    Remember Ivan, per that Weber CVT belt video, there are 423 parts in that belt (assuming the 24 bands are intact)! Make sure you count them all!

    • @timothybarney7257
      @timothybarney7257 Před 7 lety

      Oh, and New Pig is only 30 minutes down the road from you if you need stuff to clean up your mess.

  • @danekeeper1
    @danekeeper1 Před 7 lety +13

    Yeah ...Material science.. FTW!. Pulling the valve body sounded like you won some change in the local casino

    • @adventureoflinkmk2
      @adventureoflinkmk2 Před 4 lety

      More like the old school casinos... they all now go to these paper tickets

  • @gatchaman76
    @gatchaman76 Před 4 lety

    Thanks for the sacrifice of the core charge. This was very interesting and helpful.

  • @cstar2839
    @cstar2839 Před 6 lety +2

    Very cool video. I really liked the teardown process.

  • @Autofixpals
    @Autofixpals Před 7 lety +28

    Nissan Just authized us techs to pull apart the CVTs and replace belt/chain Assemblies under certain failure conditions for the Altima and Pathfinder I believe and this was only about 2 months ago...
    however you are required to complete a CVT course which requires you to wait your turn.
    so I won't be pulling a CVT apart for a long time.
    looking forward to part 2.

    • @joshuapk9808
      @joshuapk9808 Před 7 lety +2

      What do you think about the CVT's used in 7th generation Maximas? A lot of the TSB's that I see specifically mention Altima's but not Maximas.

    • @Autofixpals
      @Autofixpals Před 7 lety +2

      Joshua Kramer I have not had to replace any so far and I don't know of any TSBs that apply to the newest Maxima's CVT. Maybe they got it right in the Maxima? Time will tell.

    • @terrymaclellan8286
      @terrymaclellan8286 Před 5 lety

      My 2015 Altima SV is just starting to slip, going up hill, reves go up but no accelleration. What can be done before it goes completly ?

  • @roscoesomeone9764
    @roscoesomeone9764 Před 7 lety +106

    Please put those things on a work bench, my knees and ankles are killing me after watching this.

    • @imhooks
      @imhooks Před 5 lety +3

      Seriously! I saw his head between his knees and my joints began to ache.

    • @AngelSkilll
      @AngelSkilll Před 4 lety +1

      Stupid comment

    • @dil6969
      @dil6969 Před 4 lety +4

      Ivan is experienced in the art of the slav squat. Russians don't have time for joint pain.

    • @kid123ik90ol
      @kid123ik90ol Před 3 lety

      my back ache after watching this

    • @markh.6687
      @markh.6687 Před 3 lety

      @@dil6969 In Russia, joints pain YOU!

  • @seoprofitspro8025
    @seoprofitspro8025 Před 7 lety

    Aww man I just to close to the end and a fricken Part #2 you killing me Ivan lol :)

  • @rhino6285
    @rhino6285 Před 4 lety

    Great Video. That’s why I drive since new a 2009 Mazda 3 s hatchback 2.3, 5 speed auto with 208,000 miles. I have been dumping money lately for suspension parts at all four corners and a trans module. A trans module is not a rebuild. I just got back at the end of a 5000 mile oil change interval from a 2000 mile Marathon trip in 50 hours. Car ran like a champ. Did not burn or leak a drop of synthetic oil.

  • @nater3113
    @nater3113 Před 6 lety +7

    Honda did a cvt in the 5th gen prelude... typtronic shift 5 speed auto. They fail around 160k and 200k

  • @FordTechMakuloco
    @FordTechMakuloco Před 7 lety +59

    Oh course you fade to black for part 2 just as we open it up to see the destruction! What, did you learn that from Eric O.??? As always great videos Ivan I like to see what the other manufacturers are up to.

    • @roadkill5333
      @roadkill5333 Před 7 lety +20

      FordTechMakuloco Ivan has learned a lot from Eric O. He learned some video tips from him, and next week Eric is gonna rip off his shirt for a lube and oil change, that you're not gonna wanna miss!!!

    • @zoidberg444
      @zoidberg444 Před 7 lety +7

      FordTechMakuloco Ivans a lucky sod he has also been under the instruction of the guru himself. Keith from Staten Island!

    • @dattape2828
      @dattape2828 Před 6 lety +2

      apparently he's pretty greedy to try to charge viewers money for watching part II. next.

    • @adventureoflinkmk2
      @adventureoflinkmk2 Před 4 lety

      Naw, if he would've learned from Eric O., he would've been all like THERE'S YER PROBLEM LADY!!!! as he tore this down and found the shredded metal belt

  • @baxrok2.
    @baxrok2. Před 7 lety +1

    This is extremely interesting Ivan. Great job and of course, thanks!

  • @ellamejia2001
    @ellamejia2001 Před 6 lety

    Nice work! I’m really enjoying this video.

  • @andyfanshawe
    @andyfanshawe Před 7 lety +10

    This is a blast from the past! Here in the UK, back in the day, these trans were very popular in a lot of models.
    Most failures involved exactly this in the video. More often than not, the steel belt would break and shatter the trans housing into big holes!
    My colleague who worked for Nissan then, moved to a big secondhand car sales place. The bosses told him to remove any nissan CVT's and replace them with a manual stick shift conversion with quality parts from a scrapyard. The reason?......stick shift cars fetched £2000 more when sold.
    Anyway, good job Ivan. As usual, epic viewing.

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  Před 7 lety +3

      Ha! I wish I could make the Rogue a stick shift! That would make it much more reliable and fun to drive...well for me, not the wife lol

    • @oveidasinclair982
      @oveidasinclair982 Před 5 lety

      Nissan get's all it's CVT and regular transmission from JATCO (Japan automatic transmission company), the same people Subaru, Mazda, Mitsubishi, Honda and I think a domestic US manufacture too. That company builds garbage, the ONLY Cvt transmission anyone should purchase is by Toyota, they make their own and have been building them for over 20 years, they are proven, last hundreds of thousands of miles and are vary reliable. Never buy a car with a JATCO auto trans, always check first.

    • @GUITARTIME2024
      @GUITARTIME2024 Před 5 lety

      Regular automatic transmissions are pretty reliable. Most of us in America drive automatics or CVTs.

  • @speedmon6581
    @speedmon6581 Před 5 lety +7

    Yes we pull them apart and rebuild. And fluid change 30 or 40 thou is important

  • @chungaleta1234
    @chungaleta1234 Před 7 lety +2

    Ivan,, the 2nd part can't be viewed in my country.... is there a reason for that?

  • @jeremysolis3185
    @jeremysolis3185 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you for sharing brother 🙏🏼
    Really, really appreciate the content.
    God bless

  • @TGsrao1989
    @TGsrao1989 Před 7 lety +7

    Reminds me of Hiram Gutierrez! top work Ivan!

    • @AP9311
      @AP9311 Před 7 lety

      Eddie Martinez Hiram does yes.

    • @satamanschmidt3428
      @satamanschmidt3428 Před 7 lety +3

      I like Ivan but Hiram is DA MAN!!! Maybe in 10 years he will equal the transmission Jedi Master but it's going to take awhile. Hiram could have done this blindfolded.

    • @AP9311
      @AP9311 Před 7 lety

      Eddie Martinez Idk. ask Hiram. I think he gets supplies from special supplier. I'm not sure, I never asked 😅

  • @ripcordres
    @ripcordres Před 4 lety +44

    180,000 miles on a CVT with no fluid changes I think this thing had a very long life

    • @ItsNotJustinMarcelo
      @ItsNotJustinMarcelo Před 4 lety +6

      Ripcord_res happy to hear that. Usually life of a car is 300,000 miles but whenever I see it someone’s car made past 150,000 miles, I’m already happy with it. Cars are meant to last a lifetime but sometimes it’s not reality.

    • @therealist5680
      @therealist5680 Před 4 lety

      We don’t know whether it’s the original or replacement CVT.

    • @infiniteblaz3416
      @infiniteblaz3416 Před 4 lety +1

      The Realist it still has some decent mileage on it regardless if it was a replacement or original one. Mines is coming up on 106K miles and still running strong.

    • @08mario08
      @08mario08 Před 4 lety +4

      My cvt on 08 Nissan Altima made it to 240k miles, switch to Toyota now.

    • @generaldistrust
      @generaldistrust Před 4 lety

      @@08mario08 so you're about to switch to the superior AISIN transmission

  • @sprydo7113
    @sprydo7113 Před 7 lety

    sorry for your Foot...guy. Thank your very much for your video..., i own a 2004 350z roadster with CVT...it maybe little different in design but, now after looking what you did taking it apart, i have a much better understanding generally how it works. so thanks!

  • @duanenelson3202
    @duanenelson3202 Před 3 lety

    Ivan great job of providing info on all your videos.

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    Response to T59:
    Thanks so much for sharing. Yes, it this case the belt did snap, but as I found out digging further, it was not the belt's fault! I wonder if this was the case in the lower mileage CVTs too, and what the driving style was. Based on the findings in Part 2, I would say that harsh
    stop-and-go driving would kill this transmission very fast.

    • @oveidasinclair982
      @oveidasinclair982 Před 5 lety

      Nissan get's all it's CVT and regular transmission from JATCO (Japan automatic transmission company), the same people Subaru, Mazda, Mitsubishi, Honda and I think a domestic US manufacture too. That company builds garbage, the ONLY Cvt transmission anyone should purchase is by Toyota, they make their own and have been building them for over 20 years, they are proven, last hundreds of thousands of miles and are vary reliable. Never buy a car with a JATCO auto trans, always check first.

    • @johnd5805
      @johnd5805 Před 5 lety

      @@oveidasinclair982 I've had to buy three vehicles lately due to accidents. Pass up all cvts. Your saying that a correct move? I don't trust cvts to last 200,000 miles.

    • @johnd5805
      @johnd5805 Před 5 lety

      So stay away from cvt transmission

  • @flc2009
    @flc2009 Před 5 lety +11

    186k without fluid change phenomenal, that's a lifetime.

    • @Mabeylater293
      @Mabeylater293 Před 5 lety +4

      That’s nothing. Toyota Sienna 300,000 miles original fluid. No issues.

    • @donovanfahrbach2493
      @donovanfahrbach2493 Před 4 lety +4

      TruAgape1234 We’re talking about a cvts lifetime here ...The Toyota minivan has a 6A ...

    • @NoName-gv6nm
      @NoName-gv6nm Před 4 lety +1

      @@Mabeylater293 both situations are pure luck

  • @davidschroeder8527
    @davidschroeder8527 Před 7 lety

    your killing me smalls!! we need part two!

  • @nzkgb1486
    @nzkgb1486 Před 7 lety

    Thanks for the xtra effort Ivan looking fwd part two

  • @eldoradony
    @eldoradony Před 7 lety +5

    Nissan knows they have a problem with these units. A customer of mine who is a used car dealer regularly buys Altimas at the auction. About half have CVT problems. He takes them back to the local Nissan dealer and gets them fixed under warranty. There was no recall but Nissan extended the coverage and if the owner pushes the issue they will repair under warranty. Maybe that's the 120,000 coverage you mentioned on an earlier video. GM also had a big problem with the Saturn View CVT. Extended warranty, failures at 30,000 miles, and no update with the repair. Hopefully the industry has found the solution by now.

    • @danielfitzgerald9008
      @danielfitzgerald9008 Před 5 lety

      eldoradony I got 60 thousand on mine with a hundred thousand mile warranty so should I run it hard and drive it like I stole it or bring it in there and say Excuse me sir can you look at my transmission belt
      Either way that makes no logical sense

    • @oveidasinclair982
      @oveidasinclair982 Před 5 lety

      Nissan get's all it's CVT and regular transmission from JATCO (Japan automatic transmission company), the same people Subaru, Mazda, Mitsubishi, Honda and I think a domestic US manufacture too. That company builds garbage, the ONLY Cvt transmission anyone should purchase is by Toyota, they make their own and have been building them for over 20 years, they are proven, last hundreds of thousands of miles and are vary reliable. Never buy a car with a JATCO auto trans, always check first.

    • @oveidasinclair982
      @oveidasinclair982 Před 5 lety

      @thesix107 I like Scotty's channel

  • @edvinnelius8213
    @edvinnelius8213 Před 6 lety +234

    Nissan should walk away from cvt transmissions and use regular 6 speed automatic or 8 speed auto

    • @danielfitzgerald9008
      @danielfitzgerald9008 Před 5 lety +4

      Edvin Nelius but they lose money that way

    • @aliabdallah102
      @aliabdallah102 Před 5 lety +16

      @better soc the new Camry has an 8 speed.

    • @jimmyjohn9792
      @jimmyjohn9792 Před 5 lety +19

      new ford trucks 10 speed auto. even crazier the corvettes have 7 speed manuals now. cant imaging shifting again after 6th.

    • @oveidasinclair982
      @oveidasinclair982 Před 5 lety +15

      Nissan get's all it's CVT and regular transmission from JATCO (Japan automatic transmission company), the same people Subaru, Mazda, Mitsubishi, honda and I think a domestic US manufacture too. That company builds garbage, the ONLY Cvt transmission anyone should purchase is by Toyota, they make their own and have been building them for over 20 years, they are proven, last hundreds of thousands of miles and are vary reliable. Never buy a car with a JATCO auto thrans, always check first.

    • @knightrider1545
      @knightrider1545 Před 5 lety

      no sir some people want to do nothing but speed limit so 2 and 3 cylinders are future for ice

  • @JackFrost-pb6ze
    @JackFrost-pb6ze Před 6 lety +2

    Thank you, this was a great learning experience. I think i'll go chance my trans fluid now.

  • @MrCuddle1979
    @MrCuddle1979 Před 3 lety +1

    Like many other commenters, thanks for taking this apart at risk of the $800 core charge. I have a 2011 Altima with 126k on it. Planing to upgrade in a year or so but hoping mine lasts at least as long as yours did. I know many others haven’t been lucky enough to make even 100k.

  • @reuveng1960
    @reuveng1960 Před 7 lety +4

    After seeing this video I appreciate the dealer that gave me life time transmission warranty as long as I own my 2015 Nissan Rouge...

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  Před 7 lety +5

      LIFETIME WARRANTY?? How did you get that?? That is amazing!

    • @reuveng1960
      @reuveng1960 Před 7 lety

      Yes, if you log to their website - it's there on the top:
      "Home of Lifetime Powertrain Warranty"...
      www.royalmoorenissan.com/

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  Před 7 lety +2

      They seem to charge $4k over other dealers...wonder why xD

    • @throttlebottle5906
      @throttlebottle5906 Před 7 lety +1

      lifetime warranty, that you pay for :))

    • @timewa851
      @timewa851 Před 7 lety +1

      would expect a two year old car to still be in warranty.
      Guess you will find out if the trans warranty is still good in 2019?

  • @twinsonic65
    @twinsonic65 Před 7 lety +15

    Nissan CVT: Teardown and Failure Analysis is the title, but the alternate title is: Why did the Nissan Rogue Transmission went Rogue?
    Or the Missus was doing major neutral drops.......

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  Před 7 lety

      LOL I am trying to imagine my wife doing a neutral drop and chirping all 4 tires! I don't think she knows what a neutral drop is haha

    • @oveidasinclair982
      @oveidasinclair982 Před 5 lety

      Nissan get's all it's CVT and regular transmission from JATCO (Japan automatic transmission company), the same people Subaru, Mazda, Mitsubishi, Honda and I think a domestic US manufacture too. That company builds garbage, the ONLY Cvt transmission anyone should purchase is by Toyota, they make their own and have been building them for over 20 years, they are proven, last hundreds of thousands of miles and are vary reliable. Never buy a car with a JATCO auto trans, always check first.

    • @dakotamorgan6594
      @dakotamorgan6594 Před 5 lety

      @@oveidasinclair982 this is the second time I have seen this completely incorrect comment.... Subaru, Honda, Toyota, AND Mitsubishi make their own CVT transmissions. On top of that Mazda doesn't even have a modern car with a CVT (in the US market anyway) stop spreading this.

    • @infiniteblaz3416
      @infiniteblaz3416 Před 4 lety

      Dakota Morgan You’re actually the one who is incorrect here. JATCO was the transmission division of Nissan for quite sometime, as decades passed. They eventually started producing transmissions for the following manufacturers: Nissan, Mazda, Subaru, Isuzu, Suzuki, BMW, Volkswagen, MG Rover Group and Land Rover. They eventually broke off and became an independent company that spread their production to other manufacturers. Honda and Toyota rely on their transmission divisions for their transmission. Toyota uses AISIN for example.
      Btw, Mitsubishi has used JATCO transmissions in the past before going with INVECS.

    • @daviddonne7333
      @daviddonne7333 Před 4 lety

      @@oveidasinclair982 this is your third bullshit post

  • @alward9901
    @alward9901 Před 7 lety

    A very enjoyable video , I say keep on trucking . With tenacity and research there no reason you can't refurbish this transmission , looking forward to parts 2. 3. And maybe 4 . Thanks from Canada.

  • @siiioxide7807
    @siiioxide7807 Před rokem

    this man has made talking to yourself out loud in your garage profitable 🎉❤

  • @mikeeustice4452
    @mikeeustice4452 Před 7 lety +5

    great video Ivan the new unit whining is most likely fluid check your repair info u have to use a scan tool and check the level at a specific temp and with the engine running put the fluid level between the lines not at the bottom or the top and the wine should be gone best of luck

    • @rodden1953
      @rodden1953 Před 6 lety

      Mine is starting to whistle or high pitch wine .im concerned

  • @nononsenseBennett
    @nononsenseBennett Před 7 lety +6

    The weakest link, literally! The engineers dropped the ball on this design

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  Před 7 lety +1

      Actually there is much more to this failure than a broken belt...I'll have Part 2 up soon :)

  • @stu01565
    @stu01565 Před 7 lety

    Great tear down video. My sister just bought a used Maxima with cvt and 110K miles. I see this repair in my brother in laws future. Thanks for sharing and potentially eating $800

  • @ahaha731
    @ahaha731 Před 6 lety

    Good job. Can wait for your next project.

  • @wearevergold6478
    @wearevergold6478 Před 7 lety +80

    Did you text your wife a pic of carnage with the text of "Well there's your problem lady!"?

    • @josephkeeling6331
      @josephkeeling6331 Před 6 lety +3

      wearever gold medalist

    • @adventureoflinkmk2
      @adventureoflinkmk2 Před 4 lety +2

      LMFAO I would've.. I straight up showed my dad how his brake pads wore when I did a full brake job on his journey and i was all like, with these pads worn the way they were (edit: and they were worn at an angle, forgot to mention that), and it was making metal on metal noise when driving... there's yer problem, dad!!!

  • @haywardsautomotive6156
    @haywardsautomotive6156 Před 7 lety +4

    Best way to understand failures is tear-down and understanding what failed. Great way to learn Ivan! Belt is actually a great engineering design but with everything mechanical/electrical parts are subject to failure. 175K on a CVT is pretty good and Nissan's are pretty dependable. Maybe the CVT you installed will go even further.

    • @johnrickard8512
      @johnrickard8512 Před 6 lety

      That being said 300k+ is not uncommon for the Toyota E-CVT(aka. Hybrid Synergy Drive). To be fair it seems that Toyota, Volkswagen, Honda, Nissan, and Ford seem to be the only car manufacturers that even care about the consumer anymore(The biggest problem I've ever heard of with Volkswagen is people not taking the maintenance schedule seriously - VW seems to precision engineer their cars, so they can break easily if not maintained EXACTLY to the manufacturer spec)

  • @buildfixbreak7947
    @buildfixbreak7947 Před 5 lety +2

    I spoke at length with the owner of my local TSI Transmission shop regarding Nissan CVT transmissions. He said that they've examined failed internals and tried replacing what they thought it needed and it doesn't turn out. Over many cars and months, they set out to become masters of this and came to the final result that it is only reliably fixed by replacing the whole transmission or the entire guts at once.

    • @johntran1831
      @johntran1831 Před 2 lety

      So you are saying this cvt transmission can't be rebuild? But to buy a new one...?

  • @Smurphenstein
    @Smurphenstein Před 6 lety +1

    Listening to all those bits it sounded like you struck the jackpot at Vegas!

  • @pcno2832
    @pcno2832 Před 5 lety +31

    I don't see why Nissan didn't just put the belt in a separate chamber, so the "kibbles & bits" wouldn't get into all the hydraulics. There is no reason why the belt couldn't be a maintenance item.

    • @ningen1980
      @ningen1980 Před 5 lety +6

      They do it as a money grab. Cheaper to replace the entire trans, than spend money on labor hours replacing the kibbles and bits.

    • @oveidasinclair982
      @oveidasinclair982 Před 5 lety +5

      Nissan get's all it's CVT and regular transmission from JATCO (Japan automatic transmission company), the same people Subaru, Mazda, Mitsubishi, Honda and I think a domestic US manufacture too. That company builds garbage, the ONLY Cvt transmission anyone should purchase is by Toyota, they make their own and have been building them for over 20 years, they are proven, last hundreds of thousands of miles and are vary reliable. Never buy a car with a JATCO auto trans, always check first.

    • @DiMo28
      @DiMo28 Před 5 lety +7

      Wrong! Toyota has issues with their CVT's too. It's just not a durable design.

    • @jblyon2
      @jblyon2 Před 5 lety +4

      @@DiMo28 The funny thing is CVTs actually drive pretty well with a powerful engine behind them...they can't take the power and fail! I'm still amazed to see Nissan putting them behind a V6 when they're still failing prematurely behind a 4 cylinder. I had a 2014 Corolla for just over a year, but not long enough for any long-term reliability data (got rid of it after a major accident repair). The CVT was at least a lot more responsive than any unit from JATCO I've experienced. I still miss the instant kickdown, just not the weak engine. Wish my V6 Camry could jump down a couple gears that fast.

    • @curelable
      @curelable Před 5 lety

      It is on my side by side utility vehicle.

  • @FordTechMakuloco
    @FordTechMakuloco Před 7 lety +21

    Ah I see that CVT got you one last time!

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics  Před 7 lety +6

      lol that hurt!

    • @canocano5480
      @canocano5480 Před 3 lety +1

      Seems to be Avery bad design.
      I just bought a Altima. If I would have known of the issues these transmission have. I never would have bought it.

  • @Chand_G.
    @Chand_G. Před 4 lety +1

    Always was curious oh how CVTs self destructed. Thanks man!

  • @doronlevy1225
    @doronlevy1225 Před 2 lety

    I love to see your videos,i have also Nissan and do a lot diy,you are the best !

  • @BloodStainedTear
    @BloodStainedTear Před 7 lety +3

    I have a feeling you said more than ahhh when that torque convertor fell on your foot

  • @deepsquat600
    @deepsquat600 Před 7 lety +12

    "Well there's your problem Lady!"

  • @rooprada
    @rooprada Před 3 lety

    Hello!! I have a question. The torque converter is damage if a hold the brake when I stopped in traffic lights in D position,for example? or it's better to put Neutral when I stopped in traffic lights?

  • @aquatrax123
    @aquatrax123 Před 7 lety +1

    Awesome video, thanks!

  • @adikhan6913
    @adikhan6913 Před 5 lety +3

    The root cause of broken CVT belts in nissan’s CVTs is the week oil pump which wont work under stress and the pressure drops which wont allow sheaves to open and close at the time of acceleration and de acceleration and those sheaves break the belt.

  • @Bunkysworkshop
    @Bunkysworkshop Před 7 lety +10

    NO..........This is painful too wait......Teaser Teaser Teaser LOL

  • @enquire422
    @enquire422 Před 5 lety +1

    I like your Casio Watch, had the same one back in the early 80's.

  • @shak48
    @shak48 Před 4 lety

    Appreciate your good work brother.

  • @AdrianKingsleyHughes
    @AdrianKingsleyHughes Před 7 lety +4

    "We found the problem for sure."
    LOL!

  • @sc2603
    @sc2603 Před 5 lety +11

    I can't believe it lasted that many miles my Altima CVT Took a shit at 64,000 dealer put a new one in one month later it's acting up

    • @MainMite06
      @MainMite06 Před 4 lety

      Steven Clutz
      Have you flushed your cvt fluid & replaced the tranny filter before 50k on the original?
      And how many miles has new CVT reached?

    • @sc2603
      @sc2603 Před 4 lety +1

      The car now has 85k miles on it it’s had 3 transmissions put in by the dealer .. the struts went out all the wheel bearings have gone out the fuel pump went out the airbag controller went out .. No need to flush a transmission that can’t even reach 12,000 miles .. the third one hasn’t quite reached 12k yet .. Nissan Jatco cvts are junk .. I’ll never buy another Nissan .. There complaint line is a joke also .. The way they treated me on the phone.. I’ll trash Nissan the rest of my days ..

    • @MainMite06
      @MainMite06 Před 4 lety

      Steven Clutz
      Usually the USDM Altima from 2010-now shouldnt giving you much trouble or jinxed manufacturing.
      Ive met plenty CVT Altimas that have crossed 180K miles on the original unit, & in few cases without fluid flushes.
      Overall the 2010s Altimas are damn reliable..
      *I think the dealer sold you a BAD APPLE & THEY'VE BEEN SCREWING YOU OVER WITH BAD FIXES & MOST PROBABLY JUNK PARTS!*
      I were you, I would take the individual dealer who sold your car to court

  • @DavidS11
    @DavidS11 Před 7 lety +2

    Thanks for the video, never opened an automatic transmission

  • @robotech1990
    @robotech1990 Před 6 lety

    I love this vid.Thanks a lot. I have the same cvt transmission mounted in a Renault fluence 2012. I wanted to see the filter inside the oil cooler. i noticed that came out without a rubber seal. i supose that it is inside the housing.Aniway, it is the best vid ihave seen from a a real Jatco cvt.

  • @ronaldbacza2724
    @ronaldbacza2724 Před 7 lety +6

    This was on 2.4 engine could you imagine a Maxima with 300 hp v6?

    • @MainMite06
      @MainMite06 Před 4 lety

      ronald bacza
      The 04-now Maxima has its *true* engine power *weakened* from ~300hp/280lbft
      To
      ~240hp/220lb ft as not to damage the engine bushings too much.
      |
      Ive met plenty of 180K mile 2010s Maximas running the original CVT

  • @dustinsigmon1342
    @dustinsigmon1342 Před 7 lety +8

    Hopefully you got your core charge back before you published this video.

  • @codyashworth
    @codyashworth Před 5 lety

    Thanks for the videos man! We’re do you get your directions/instructions? I need to replace in my wife’s 13 rogue.
    Thanks!

  • @GrifFungin
    @GrifFungin Před 4 lety

    Question:
    My wife has a 2015 Rogue SL FWD, which we bought new and it currently has 42,000 miles. I am about to do a CVT fluid drain and fill times two like the service manual suggests. So far we haven’t had any issues with the CVT, but I’m leery of keeping the vehicle beyond say 80,000 miles due to concerns of CVT failure. What’s your opinion of the CVT in the 2015 year model Rogue and would you keep it beyond 80-100k mikes or sell it before CVT issues arise? Thanks for any advice you care to offer.

  • @humansvd3269
    @humansvd3269 Před 5 lety +4

    This cvt made it to 186k? Shoot, many don't even make it to 60 and in some cases 33k.
    Nissan really should have just stuck to better auto trans or offered more manuals.

    • @lilnana148
      @lilnana148 Před 5 lety +1

      Mines made it to 172k, currently doing a stepper motor replacement

    • @NoName-gv6nm
      @NoName-gv6nm Před 4 lety

      @@lilnana148 how did the stepper motor replacement go?

  • @beekeeper5424
    @beekeeper5424 Před 7 lety +3

    FANTASTIC WORK IVAN!! WHY DOES NISSAN USE CVT?? CAN ANYONE PLEASE EXPLAIN THE GOOD VS. BAD TO ME?

    • @flyingbob297
      @flyingbob297 Před 6 lety

      Nissan use this cvt trans because of 6 % better mpg and they cost less to build.

    • @markbowen5215
      @markbowen5215 Před 6 lety

      The good Toyota The Bad Nissan.

    • @2003evodave
      @2003evodave Před 6 lety

      Cal Petty all manufacturers are going to or already have CVT cars, Toyota does.

    • @blintorzabat5798
      @blintorzabat5798 Před 5 lety

      Better mpg, cheaper to build, and they are designed to fail outside of warranty, so the customer has to freight the bill.

  • @omarxcv
    @omarxcv Před 6 lety

    I have a problem with my Nissan altima 2009 (2.5), the ger is not shifting from the first ger, Computer scan results were code p1777 step motor, then I replies the step motor, after that the transmission it's not shifting from the third ger to the fourth, fifth and sixth ger, Computer scan results were code p1778 step motor, is the problem still in step motor? What do you suggest, thanks.

  • @zx300ttt
    @zx300ttt Před rokem

    Thank you for making this video

  • @B0xlife1
    @B0xlife1 Před 5 lety +3

    Wow that fluid was DIRTY.

  • @cklinejr
    @cklinejr Před 7 lety +22

    That jutco cvt is such a piece of crap. My wife's Jeep Patriot has the same trans and its constantly over heating (even with Aux cooler) and putting itself in limp mode.

  • @mckoylach1622
    @mckoylach1622 Před 5 lety

    I have an 05 murano,I have had for about 5 months,and it’s a CVT trans. When I drive the car, it doesn’t sail smoothly,when I decelerate. It dropped speed unlike my maxima. My 93 maxima sails smoothly when decelerate. Does a CVT transmission work differently from the regular automatic transmission ? Thanks...

  • @dan2soy191
    @dan2soy191 Před 4 lety

    Hi, firts of all thanks for sharing...! I want to replace the cvt on my 2010 rogue but it it TRUE that i cant use a diiferent cvt coming from a different car? ...because it cant be reprogram? DO i really need programing on CVT? Big thanks!!!

  • @jameshart5302
    @jameshart5302 Před 5 lety +83

    I will never buy a car with a CVT ever again

    • @hughujkbkilhhhfbhgyre6436
      @hughujkbkilhhhfbhgyre6436 Před 4 lety +10

      James Hart
      All new cars are all cvt

    • @fermi3294
      @fermi3294 Před 4 lety +6

      @@hughujkbkilhhhfbhgyre6436 He never said he'd buy a new car.

    • @prevost8686
      @prevost8686 Před 4 lety +4

      Hughujkb Kilhhhfbhgyre And they’re all garbage.

    • @mattyb7736
      @mattyb7736 Před 4 lety +11

      @@hughujkbkilhhhfbhgyre6436 nahh, still plenty of manual and "standard" auto's out there in brand new vehicles.

    • @lexburen5932
      @lexburen5932 Před 4 lety +1

      @@mattyb7736 Most new bmw's went backt to normal automatics with a torque converter, because they had to many problems with cvt's. The new bmw 6 speed autos are pretty good, you can even shift them manually.

  • @jasonrobbind231
    @jasonrobbind231 Před 5 lety +5

    I have three Nissan's all have cvts all have 240,000 miles and going strong I drive them all practically and got them serviced every 30000 zero problems.

  • @Kennymac8251
    @Kennymac8251 Před 3 lety

    Just bought a Nissan Kicks. Getting familiar with CVT. great, great video.

  • @sandragtjiteere3737
    @sandragtjiteere3737 Před 4 lety

    Morning sir, thanks for the good lesson. Q; what makes the revers gear not to engage although is giving a signal that is at the reverse gear but the automatic button is not coming out fully?