Top 5 2025 Ram 1500 Viewer Questions: Unsold Inventory, Reliability, Price?
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- čas přidán 28. 08. 2024
- You've said a lot about the 2025 Ram 1500 and Publisher Tim Esterdahl has rounded up the top 5 questions from you. He goes over all the answers in this video about the 2025 Ram 1500 including unsold inventory, reliability, price, waiting for incentives and why he isn't buying a higher trim.
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@@jrksoldierx1436 Welcome! LOL
Hey Tim, have you heard of the rumors from UAW that they're being sabotaged by Stellantis with bad parts/wire harnesses and modules to produce bad trucks in an effort to ultimately move production to Mexico? Just curious on your thoughts on this
You don't have to wait two years to save 10k on the new Rams. They will be 10k off in less than four months. That is their business model.
Dealers are just part of the queue of sale. If the dealers can't sell the manufacturer's products, then manufacturers ultimately can't sell their products.
The inventory issue falls squarely on Stellantis and their delusional push for Ram and Jeep to be the premium/luxury brands in their respective markets. A Ram 1500 Tradesman for $50k is pure insanity and they deserve all the hate they are receiving for such greedy pricing.
@@hochhaul They still sell more RAM trucks in three weeks than Toyota does in a complete year. They are also in competition to be the number 2 truck sales company in America.
@onthethrottle7104 GM and Ford are well ahead of Ram at this point. GM sold 839,000 trucks, Ford sold 750,000, and in distant 3rd was Ram with 444,000. Ram sales were down from 468k in 2022. In fact it was the only full-size brand that saw a sales decline of 5% in 2023. It does indeed outsell Toyota though.
I am about to be a new, first time truck buyer, and I have worked through so many truck videos. I totally get what you are saying about the evergreen content. Thanks for the videos. They are quite helpful.
I appreciate your video! I owned a 2013 Ram 1500 with the hemi. Enjoyed owning it for two years. Also had fords with the 3,5 ecoboost and my experience wasn’t good. So for me, I’ll avoid any vehicle with a turbo unless i plan on selling or trading it at 50-60k miles. With the skyrocketing prices I’m planning on keeping my two vehicles for at least ten years.
Thanks for the honest video. As a small business owner I ordered a new Tungsten today after owning 5 Limiteds.
Thanks and you get it. Hard to get people to see that POV.
I think with what they learned with the Turbo, straight 6 Diesels for years, the new I6 should be as reliable as the Hemi
@tim can you schedule a deep dive with the 3.0L lead engineer like you did with the 3.0L duramax?
Ask about cylinder lining - plasma coating process of cylinder walls, internals, cams, crank, chains, oil pump, turbo coolong, testing, expected life of engine.
I’m actually working on this right now.
Great video as always! I am one that does not need the top trim. People can argue all day , but it is what works for the consumer and the needs they have for it. A lot of people use these as a daily vehicle to grab groceries, go to and from work and most of the time never use the truck for real truck stuff.
I love the idea of the inline 6. They inherently have been extremely reliable engines. In the days of old they weren't powerful but come on the power that they making now is unbelievable. Just my take.
Its new. Human nature to be a bit skeptical. 3.5 ecoboost went thru 3 revisions to address issues.
500 plus HP out of a 3.0L. 26-28 PSI of boost. Time will tell how durable it is.
As far as reliability, 28 PSI of boost, forged internals are great but I’m curious if cooling will be an issue long term especially while towing
They spent so much time on cooling, I don't think it will be a concern. It also passed the J2807 towing standard.
There's enough frontal area for plenty of cooling. My biggest concern with a big output inline-6 is the torsional rigidity of the block and the crank. Inline-6 engine blocks need lots of engineering to address the twisting force or it can lead to premature bearing wear or possibly damage to the block. I'm sure that Stellantis engineers are aware of this and computer modeling makes it much easier to eliminate.
Help… I have a 2021 Laramie night edition should I keep it ? Lease is up in a month… lease another 2024 for the Hemi or lease a 2025? The best price I can get is 798 a month 3k down on a 2024…
Gees, this doesn't address people's concerns, it's just carrying the water for the industry.
Ah, yeah, the Tim is a simply marketing tool argument.
@@Pickuptrucktalk I didn't say you were, but this is exactly what the industry would want people to believe. It doesn't necessarily mean it's reality, and it doesn't necessarily addresses people's concerns. People are far more skeptical than that.
@@Sebastian-il5hn how would those concerns be addressed in your opinion? Hemi engineer designed Hurricane and calls it great. That's not enough? You want the testing results? That's just not going to ever happen. Way too many lawsuit possibilities.
Dealer lot inventory means customers don't want truck? Total Ram sales were down 20k trucks year over year. They still sold 445k trucks.
Price? Luxury trucks are all north of $80k.
The rest was just my explanation of my business.
What didn't I address?
@@Pickuptrucktalk Ok, regardless of the answer to the questions, why are you so defensive? People have concerns. It's not your duty to rebut them for the industry.
@@Sebastian-il5hn Defensive? Your comment says I did a shit job. How else do I take that?
The only thing that excites me about this truck is for this interior to come to HD's later this year or early next year. Can't wait to get this interior with a cummins...
Plus some dealers want to put extra markups, because they can. But the dealer 2 hours south will do MSRP.
Trying to keep an open mind here. I had a 2013 F150 Turbo that We could not figure out how to keep cool when towing anything over a jet ski. Even with a all billet baja Racing Radiator , yada yada yada yada...Traded for my Ram 2500 Gas..and I love it never an issue..well ok the radio is weird...but Lets see if Ram can/will build a good turbo package. Hope so!
I’m thinking that hurricane inline 6 might be the best gas engine out there
I priced out a bighorn night package crew cab 64k net. That was with protection package, and multi tailgate. With discounts might be considered…
Tim, the trucks are just too darn expensive now. That’s the common denominator with Ram and every other OEM that are sitting on 200+ day old inventory. I’m sure the dealers would beg to differ on your theory that it’s great to have overflowing inventory. My local CJDR dealer is up in arms because they feel they are not getting the support needed from Stellantis, especially in the wake of high floorplan costs. Combined that with high interest rates that are keeping buyers off the lots.
They feel as though Stellantis should be more aggressive in their incentives to move this metal. The hold back and floor plan assistance isn’t enough for them to discount these trucks to the point where people will actually buy them.
Stellantis will offer incentives to move the inventory like I said.
@@Pickuptrucktalk hopefully sooner than later.
Ram and its Stellantis cousins are the only ones with a 150+ day inventory. I've said this before research prices since 2000 model to model trim to trim prices have remained pretty much the same. Of course the 25 Ram is an outlier.
Consider me bitter, but I have no sympathy for any dealer that "trimflated" or up charged over MSRP of any vehicle on their lot during Covid. They reap what they sew.
@@PickuptrucktalkThe dealerships will have to match the incentives, which most near me in the Northeast are doing. 23’s and 24’s both 20% off msrp. Rhode Island, Massachusetts, and Connecticut are flooded with them. When I see 25-30% off MSRP I will grab a Longhorn Limited.
Tim but you’re not addressing the fact they’re to expensive the current and the old model so Dealers will order less inventory and the manufacturer will have to stop production
That's just not going to happen.
too expensive? if you look back at prices for the past 1/4 of century model to model trim to trim prices are consistent. The expectation is the 25 Ram where a Big Horn costs more than a 24 Silverado High Country with a Duramax.
@@davidporter7051 What I was referring to is the plants will stop production. Slow production? Sure. Completely stop production? Nah.
@tim you're a different buyer with different objectives than a normal buyer. You've got a channel and people like me want to see the latest and greatest.
I like your decision to buy the Ram.
Hi Tim-
Thanks for sharing all this information
Big year for Ram.
Thank you for answering these questions. This was a good video.
You are so welcome!
Plastics in heat cycled areas is why.
What gets me is just seeing plastic as garden variety plastic. People see that and immediately think of a soda bottle thin plastic. Same thing with the plastic oil pan Ford and GM have used. That plastic is a composite that actually holds up better than steel.
Today's materials are not what you think. Remember when Ford's aluminum truck came out and it was going to peel open like a can opener? That hasn't happened. That's my point. You can't judge a material just because it seems to be something you are familiar with.
@@Pickuptrucktalk You've clearly never been a BMW mechanic.
@@antoine4038 I know so many mechanics personally from different brands who all will bitch about this or that. They will also argue with each other over a brand's perceived weakness. Everyone has their opinions and mechanics seem to have the most opinions.
@@Pickuptrucktalk I'm in automotive service and repair and have no bias. All brands are suffering more and more from brittle plastics.
If you've ever wondered why a $190 part costs $1,600 to fix, it's because that part is buried under a nest of plastic and rubber lines and connectors that split or crumble under any force.
Keep in mind that mechanics only see the problem children & focus their opinions based on that. What they don't see is the thousands or more of the same vehicles going down the road reliability doing their job everyday racking up millions of trouble-free miles. The internet is similar in that it's the bad stuff they see & then repeat it until it becomes the truth in cyberspace. The turbo charger bashing is an example of this.
Except the hemi had lifter issues due to oiling issues at idle.
Yes low oil pressure extended idling not good.
My 2013 F150 Ecoboost, which started in MY 2011 in the F150, threw the con rod through the block at 2 years old and 65k km. Call me the 2 percent. Dealer maintained 5 k mile oil changes.
Well with you getting the new Ram you can let us know how good it is! Just do real test drives and really though if the manufacturer wants to sell more a 10k dollar reduction in retail price is needed. Some people buy from emotion but most buy based on price.
the huricane engine is in use with their wagoneer suv's already so some of the problems would have been seen there.
Im good with turbos got one in my 2.4 outback/260HP! Just did not want one in my truck, happy with the 5.0 format with mpg and power...
I think it will be a decent engine platform. But at the end of the day its not what i wnat in a half ton pick-up. The fact that they got test time in the jeep will definitely help them though!
I'm just really really confused as to why the new Rebel GT does not get the HO Hurricane.
I think that's a pretty solid question.
Ya I'm kinda done with them never dropped the 6.4 in and no ho in rebel.
I think they don't want to compete with upcoming TRX
@brockstacey8598 they put the 6.4 in everything including a jeep it makes 475 hp the trx is ober 700 I'm assuming the new trx is gonna be higher hp too more than the 540hp ho motor so still don't see why they can't drop it in the rebel I Def don't have a reason to trade in my v8 rebel to gain 20 hp and lose the v8 I'll keep it
So they can tease it for next year?
Straight 6 turbos can be very reliable! Many of the most reliable engines of all time are Straight 6 turbos, like to 2jz or the diesel cummins.
I would get a inline 6 over a V6 any day of the week!
Excellent video Tim! I completely understand your frustration.
Tim - love your channel due to your honesty, clear and open discussions. Keep up the great work!
Reliability, quality, and durability are Ram’s responsibility. Dealers can’t sell them is because those items.
Can't agree. Driving RAMs for the last 10 plus years, including in fleet use. Never had a problem with any of those issues. Can't say the same for Ford or GMs I've had. Maybe you've had a different experience, just like some Ford owners may have had good luck.
445k sales last year down only 20k over the prior year. Why do you assume dealers can't sell them?
Here's the facts from the sales chart:
pickuptrucktalk.com/2024/01/2023-q4-truck-sales-ford-on-top-tacoma-steady-ranger-bombs/
5% loss year over year that’s ram
Why do people make such uninformed comments. 5th Gen Rams remain at the top for quality and dependability. In fact the Big 3 are producing their best trucks in years.
@@hellkitty1014GM is the best quality sooooooo
The Later Hemi Engines are having Issues, especially if You idle The Motor a lot, You'll May Experience Lifter and Cam Issues.
Would a high volume oil pump, help with that?
In a video that tfl did just this morning Andre was talking to cheif engineer from ram about towing being reduce and the cheif engineer response was yes that the sst engine max tow rating was reduced for reliability and he mentioned that most consumer don’t tow more then 7 to 10 thousand lb mark and so they didn’t need reach that higher best in class number like other manufacturers.So my question is why then are they advertising the ram charger number being close to over 14000 lbs if it not a concern chasing the highest tow numbe I call bs
Lots of Scotty Kilmer viewers on here I'd imagine. Unsuscribed to him years ago.
I don’t really understand why Scotty has so many subscribers. I never subscribed to his channel as his style of talk and presentation is insanely irritating to me. It’s like watching an Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder patient after he downed 5 cans of RedBull.
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@@Pickuptrucktalk
Duly noted
Good video, do you think it's a good idea to buy the bighorn 2024 good price or wait ?
I'd buy a 2024 if you are leaning that way. The 2025 has a lot of changes/improvements but nothing OMG amazing.
Screw Ram and their outrageous prices! Ford and GM also. Lol. I still want one though.
LOL.
Hey Tim, with people complaining so much about pricing it would be great if you did another comparison video with all the trucks at a similar trim level
Ex Limited vs Lariat vs Laramie vs whatever Chevy/GM calls this level of trim. With everything getting so expensive, it'd be nice to know which brand can provide some value.
Hmm… a massive build and price comparison with volume trims. I like it. Adding it to the list.
Expensive Piece Of Junk?
Yes!
Absolutely!
Without question!
No doubt!
Most certainly!
Well Dave For 5 years now Data shows that Ram is #1 in reliability and quality. So that means Ford and GM are even MORE Expensive pieces of junk
Yes!
Absolutely!
Without question!
No doubt!
Most certainly! 😂😂
Cheers…
@@ramrider1453 you got it!
That cooling system seems sketchy.
Passed J2807 standards and that's all about engine cooling.
Hurricane is bad ass own both currently hemi and Hurricane
These trucks are in clearance. Dealerships in NC didn't get the memo. I will say used small cars are just starting to become affordable again.
I'm glad because Toyota and Honda lost their damn minds on what they were charging for Corolla and Civics.
The other thing i would point out. Is ram owners could have bought a Ecoboost that was objectively better then the hemi since 2009. They didn't so it makes sense that they wouldn't be happy about the direction
The ecoboost has had its share of growing pains through the years. Rumor is they’ve been fixed on the newer models. I hope they did since I just bought a ‘22.
Inline 6 cylinder engines are extremely reliable and rugged engines. Inline 6 cylinder Diesel engines are way better than the V8 diesels.
Let's not forget Chryslers slant 6. They sound like crap but are as reliable as the sun rise. 👍✅️
Bmw sourced I6 money pit. Same bore and stroke.
Good information Tim,how was the ride compared to the 2024 Toyota Tundra?
Same with coil link suspension except for Tungsten. That trim was like driving an old school Cadillac.. That suspension really is much smoother than leaf springs.
my 2025 ram 1500 rebel 2 weeks old breakdown on now on dealer for weeks. waiting for repair
Yes, the sound of the SST sucks compared to a Hemi, BUT so far it seems to be a great change from a useability standpoint. As far as left-overs go--all those trucks sitting on lots (especially ecodiesels) are ripe picking for cheap people like me! I'm seriously chasing down a '22 or '23 Laramie/limited Eco and finding that I can get one for ~$20-25k off! Less sales tax, less excise (personal property) tax, lower insurance---win, win, win!
I hate it bud the dealership is not a seperate thing from corporate.. If they can't sell trucks.. They don't order more trucks. I think with the way prices are, stelantis is in trouble.. And too, this is the first video where u seem like u are a Ram public relations employee instead of a guy looking out for his viewers.
@tim trick question how many camshafts does the hurricane have?
I'm guessing it's DOHC like the Aussie Ford Barra 4.0liter
3 camshafts.
Avoid engine if possible the first year.
Like he said, this is the second yr so it’s all ok now right?
@@paulhunter9613 They sold less than 10,000 JGW SSTs last year. I hardly consider it a tested engine.
@finleyfleming5919 you are spot on. With those kinds of numbers, you can hardly say it's a years worth of testing. And the only way you can hear about the issues with that engine is by going to forums made for that vehicle. You will hardly see the issues posted on youtube with the dismal amount of vehicles on the road.
Good point on the sales volume.
@@finleyfleming5919there about 45K Wag/G.Wag sold with the standard and H.O. Hurricane up to now. True enough we don't have enough data due to 1 model year, but new architecture will always have some teething pains, even Toyota and Honda(currently under recall right now for fuel pump issues).
If this Alex guy designed the Hemi, then we're doomed. Hopefully they learned from the Hemi top-end oiling issues (camshaft lobe/lifter failure)...
This is going to be a great time to buy a hemi…
Expensive too
Inline 6s are fine......on cars and smaller SUVs.
On trucks? Go right ahead kids and buy one.....I sure as hell won't.
Hemi's are great engines, I've had two and until the gov got involved they were fantastic.
As for engine design....I trust physics more than man.
He hemi been great to me I’m on my third one with no etorque I’m not sure what I’m gonna do come summer if I whould get another but I might go ford f150 v8 these new rams are nice but not sure about turbo
Plenty of trucks had inline 6 engines with great success over the years.
Hopefully this 3.0 hurricane reliability video ages better than your 3.0 Duramax has. Any chance you can get that GM engineer back on so we can give him a piece of our minds?
The hurricane has been in the works for 12 years or more.
I recently became a subscriber to your channel because I thought you were an automotive journalist. I suspect I may have been wrong on that account and that's on me. I don't understand all the schilling for the manufactures you reference to. I thought a journalist just reported the facts and let the consumer of the journalists content decide for them selves how to think about what was presented to them(reported). I personally am just looking for factual information about the trucks you review. I have owned 9 new pickup trucks since 1998 for personal use and according to the engineers of them at the time they were all the best thing since sliced bread. Well some were but most were not. The best single example of the 9 trucks I have owned that did not meet what the engineers bragged about was the Ram Ecodiesel engine, we all know how that panned out! I along with others are very skeptical about what an engineer says about the reliability of an engine until it is proven in the field. They will always tell you what you want to hear. I don't have enough fingers to count all the car and truck engines that went to market with the engineering done and dyno proven only to be revamped in some way to be able to survive in the wild or simply pulled out of production for the next new and improve power plant.
What was the issue with this reporting?
Your promoting the reliability of the new hurricane engine because Alan F. designed it. The reliability remains to be seen, it is not a fact yet! And you stated that the engineering and testing is complete. The hemi Alan designed went through several changes over the years. Why? You just come off as a sales man for who ever your promoting at the moment, more opinion based than reporting from a journalist that you claim you are. I'm sure the Ecodiesel was tested and proven on the dyno also, but they ended up not being very reliable. I can personally attest to that, engine failed at 21,000 miles. Engine was replaced, still more issues. That truck was replaced with a new one . Second truck spent more time in the shop than on the road. My point is you have no idea how good the new power plant is so why not wait and see instead of blindly promoting it? Your claim to be a journalist is the only reason I felt compelled to respond. Journalists report facts not opinion!@@Pickuptrucktalk
Nice video
I have a dumb question. Do I NEED to use Premium fuel for the H.O Hurricane? Can I use mid grade or regular fuel without issues? I know premium fuel gives you the performance the horsepower and whatnot but I’m not all that worried about getting the maximum power based on fuel.
Yes you can use other octanes. Just don’t get the same performance.
@@Pickuptrucktalk I remembered your video you did with the engineer but I couldn’t recall information about the octane you can and cannot use. Thank you for the speedy response!!
It’s obvious Stellantis has been having issues moving there vehicles. All I see on the TV for years is 10,000 -12,000 rebates.
And massive amounts of complaints about poor reliability. Why else would there be such high discounts.
Hard to believe GM can sell a V8 considering how many lifter issues they have. Ford is just crazy with poor engineering across the board. Even the CEO of Ford has said on multiple occasions that they are having problems. Now he is saying he should have looked into there reliability issues long ago.
Buying a new vehicle now days is like rolling the dice.
Nowadays powertrain isn't the reliability concern, its electronics, i have to deal with dozens and dozens of modules, sensors and connectors issues on any car, 10 yr later find out the module you need is discontinued, have to scrap the vehicle or switch to an aftermarket engine management and gauges😂😂.
THIS!
Probably wasn’t strictly Alans choice to design the new engine. That said I personally have no problem with moving to a new engine. Thanks being you Tim, Tim! 😅
What's the biggest size gas tank? Hearing only a 23 gallon?
I ordered a 33 gallon tank.
Sounds of the v8 can’t be replaced
I'm 1,000% excited to see how this 3.0SST plays out, even the lower power configuration. I hope it's a 250-300,000 mile engine. I hope it's as satisfying as my 2.7 Ford Nano in my F150.
I tried buying a 23 ram 1500 eco diesel and they wouldn’t budge a penny. I pretty much got told “the savings are so great right now, you should be grateful (in a way).” Ram lost my interest.
Great video as always, Tim. Great information and addressing comments that are ALWAYS going to come up when companies change products/policies. Just know, some people will NEVER listen to logic and reason and will only stay with what they are familiar with.
Turbos have been in use for over 50 years in all different capacities across many many industries and applications - and they have been improved to the point of painless reliability, with repairs/failures happening at the same rate as normally aspirated engines. Any modern mechanic can troubleshoot and repair a turbo issue.
My question is why keep the Pentastar V6 and drop the Hemi completely when it is iconic to the brand and hugely popular? Don't get me wrong, I think it's great to have the option of a turbo V6 that burns fuel more effectively, but I'm not seeing the advantage of it from a customer's perspective? The mpg is nearly the same, it needs premium fuel with some gains in horsepower and torque - seems like a bit of a step back from a very popular engine that been configured with superchargers, bored out and hybridized with electric components...people want to see that badge on the hood.
When you look at it like that, I can see where the ire's coming from, though they could phrase it like this rather than sweeping statements (apply some logic and reasoning people). It does look like it has a much smaller footprint so it will be easier to be put into future platforms, but when you start weighing in the variety of products the Hemi was jammed into and squeezed out insane numbers the logic of the turbo V6 doesn't rub the MOPAR fanbase the right way. There's clearly allot of emotion in that drivetrain, and now it's being shown the door as Stellantis turns on the lights at closing time. It's more of a rude-awakening than offering a better product for the future. So of course the MOPAR fanboys are hurt - seems the endless party is now over.
I think they kept the Pentastar since they need it for the Ram 1500 Ramcharger.
Yes and there's a UAW deal to keep the Pentastar factory running but do you really need a 6 cylinder generator? Why not a small 3 cylinder motor from FIAT and fill the extra space with more battery?@@Pickuptrucktalk
@@shawncournoyer9589 not sure on that question. I’ll try to ask later this year when we get a chance to drive them.
Tim, no matter how hard you are trying the fact of the matter is that my opinion is gold and yours is not. I come here NOT to learn but gift the world my knowledge and wisdom.
The single role of your channel is to provide a vessel for me to vent and let everyone know how expensive new trucks are (and they are), how unreliable and short lived turbos are and why your point of view doesn’t make any sense at all in any particular case. 😃 /End of SARCASM/
FCA has increased her pricing 50% over the last five years, that's higher than any other automaker..
The F150 has had twin turbos since 2011. Millions of these trucks are running around today, hundred of thousands are being sold every year. On what basis are people equating twin turbos and poor reliability? In short, just a hunch and anecdotal stories. Here is another anecdote: my 6.2 naturally aspirated V8 (Silverado) died at 14,000 miles. I don't say all V8s are unreliable. One thing I want to pay attention to though: the Car Care Nut channel studied a Wagoneer w/ the hurricane engine and noted this engine was high strung. Let's wait and see about possible issues before crying doomsday.
Keep up the good work Tim. Haters are going to hate on anything new. I’m not an early adopter of any new design or engine regardless of the manufacturer. I can’t see this engine having any more problems than new engine introductions from GM, Ford or Toyota. Just my opinion. There’s a lot of “the sky is falling” click bait out there hating on any brand you select. Ram did put extra shifts on to make more Rams in 2023 before they retooled for the new model. This allowed the dealerships to get lots of volume in. I’m looking forward to how this engine will perform. Keep up the content.
yes......dealers will buy tons of 2025 trucks from Stellantis while current trucks sit on dealer lots. With just in time manufacturing, watch the suppliers start lay offs.
No idea who Alan Falkowski is, nor do I care much. Probably just another corporate yes man who does what he's told to do, with no regard to what's best or what consumers want.
Also, the guy that screwed up their V8 (how the hell do you screw up a V8??) also designed their turbo 6? Good to know, now I'll be sure to avoid it entirely.
The Hemi is screwed up?
@@Pickuptrucktalk "Hemi tick, btw"
@@antoine4038 honest question, was that a design flaw or a supplier issue?
The issue here is mainly high prices. People are pissed because the domestic manufacturers have jacked up prices excessively over the past 3 years or so. Yes, there has been inflation, but that was only about 20%, truck prices are up like 50%. The additional 30% went to higher profit margins for these companies. Period. So essential, they decided to go up-market, which is fine. It’s the free market, isn’t it? They can price a RAM 1500 at $200k if they want to. The issue here is that the demand is simply not there. The luxury market is not that big. What percentage of Americans can afford a $60-80k truck? That is only wealthy people and middle-class idiots who don’t understand the concept of personal finance. The rest of us will have to buy a used truck. So GM, Ford, and Stellantis have completely disregarded their traditional middle-class customers. I am hoping these companies lose a lot of money. So let’s see how high those inventories have to go before they lower prices. Don’t take this personal, Tim, but you should advocate more for your viewers and less for these companies.
Plenty of financially illiterate people out there, just ran across some short videos on instagram from a car dealership. People come in & want to trade for a $30k car when they’re $15k upside down in their current 10year old POS. Oh and can you do no money down…credit score @ 550😂😂😂
I also follow several auto/truck groups & forums, there “appears” to be quite a few people buying the $60,$80 & $100k vehicles out there.
He was told to design a six turbo. I bet there be another V8 once they find out nobody wants six cylinder. Their sales are going to drop a ton, and the price also has something to do with it. I personally am going to get a silverado with the turbo 4. It has a 100k warranty.
Your comment is confusing. Why hate on the line 6 and then go out and buy a turbo 4? Doesn't make any sense to me beyond, as you say, the warranty.
@@Pickuptrucktalk warranty the 6 100k miles
@@MrHemikid426 that's interesting. I haven't heard many buyers who are buying one truck over another based on engine warranty.
@Pickuptrucktalk maybe you haven't replaced an engine lately. If you build a good product, the warranty should reflect that. I've seen 5.3 LS engines with wiped lifters at 30k miles. It cost over 1k just for parts to fix it. Hell, you're probably looking at 3 grand for the repair. Ford had problems with their 2.7 ecoboost, and I don't know if they replaced these for free. They want all the money for these trucks, and we're not sure if they'll be running after 7-8 years of payments.
you're buying the wrong engine. 3.0 Duramax much better and has 100k warranty. @@MrHemikid426
Alot of things can happen in 20 years. Alan could of changed into a "yes" man and just does what he is told vs being more assertive 20 years ago. In 20 years he has received alot of pay increases and he is sitting pretty right now. He does not want to ruffle any feathers for fear of being let go. Tim, your missing that point. And it is a valid real life point that very few think about. After 20 years, people just want to fly low under the radar and ride their cash cow out till retirement.
There's going to be the same concerns with reliability when the new GM generation truck power trains come out supposedly for 2025 models. GM just announced the other day they are going to rush to market a truck hybrid motor as their EV plans have failed. Who is going to want that engine or any new engine unproven?
I hear what you are saying, but people buy the heck out of first year vehicles all the time. The sales data backs it up.
@Pickuptrucktalk I have no doubt you're correct. I'm going to be in the boat at the end of this year or first of next looking to buy a new truck. I'm handing off my 2011 silverado to my grandson for his first vehicle. If the 2025 new gen GM trucks come to fruition, I'll have to decide on current or new gen. GM is really keeping the new gen under raps. The only thing out there is the designer sketches. I wonder if the 5.3 and 6.2 will stay.
Don't understand why you have to keep defending your purchases. Those that know what you do, should understand already. It seems like your asking for chats approval. You were not like this just a few years back. Maybe the comments through the years have made you more defensive, IDK. Browse thru some of your older videos and you will see what I mean. I also understand you do not have a truck right now, so you have to just have "chatting" videos from your desk for content. How about doing more videos with your old '62? truck you have, while you wait for your RAM. What a perfect time to do so.
Good points as usual. Yeah, probably getting a bit more defensive these days as the channel has grown and new people arrive who don’t understand how it all works.
The ‘62 is fun to film, doesn’t do much for views though. This Ram 1500 content is really taking off. Have to strike while the iron is hot.
Why would you only ba able to get the h.o. engine in the tungsten they would sell millions more if you could get in any model
28lbs of boost is a lot. I haven't heard if the block has Iron Cylinder liners.
As for reliability, time will tell. 150k miles on a Ford Ecoboost and I promise you, it needs turbos.
I love Straight 6 Turbos. Just probably not the best truck engine.
Tim you don't exactly have the dealership vs manufacturer relationship correct. The OEM can and does push inventory on to dealerships that the dealership may not want. What the OEM does is tell the dealership " hey you want 5 Rebels? You have to take 20 big horns and 3 Sports too"
So the fact that there is a 150 day average supply at dealerships, is actually awful and a sign that RAM is in big trouble.
Correct, OEMs can push trucks on dealers. I should have said that too.
Tundra engine failure "speculated" to be 0.5%, not 0.005%, and it's just according to the speculation of an anonymous source at Toyota. When an owner has the engine fail in their 2022 Tundra, they get a replacement engine, and that engine also fails 20k to 30k miles later with the exact same failure mode, that suggests the speculation from an anonymous source is an attempt to downplay and minimize that failure rate. I understand the desire to minimize the issue. Nobody wants to see their favorite brand struggle with such issues.
There will certainly be issues with the Hurricane, it's obviously an important engine for them and they don't put out tons of engine designs like Ford or GM, so they can spend more engineering hours to make sure the engine is going to be a good design. The inline-6 has a few specific areas to focus on when designing one for durability and reliability -- namely crank strength and the block's torsional rigidity. LSPI is hopefully addressed as well. GM, Toyota, and others have been caught off guard by LSPI in turbocharged engines.
But the volume seller is to expensive for the average person
Then how do you think it ends up to be the volume seller?
Straight 6 is king and will become the last bastion of hope for ice.
But only time will tell how reliable anything is until it's in the real world for a period of time.
I don't want a 6 in my truck period ,not from Ford or Chevy or ram.
It’s all a matter of who has the problems if you’re the one who has a major problem the truck is Terrible, if you don’t have any problems the truck is great.
I bought 2003 ram with the 4.7 v8 still have it 163000 miles
I really get a kickout of all this handwringing over new models and new engines. This is just the auto industry doing what it has always done with the current day twist of needing to be compliant with today's standards & regulations. I'll bet a dollar there was similar discussions going on in 1955 when chevy brought out the small block V-8 after decades of chevy being strictly an I-6 powered brand. Back then they were coming out with new models every year, even the beloved tri-five Chevy's had three different versions in three years, and I can guarantee you there was just as much hand wringing over pricing then as there is now. The difference now is we have had over twenty years of low interest rates coupled with low inflation. Those of us with gray hair remember those same bad old days of high inflation & interest rates in the mid-70's to the mid-90's all too well & we're reliving those days again right now.
Count your blessings! Never would I have thought we would be able to buy a production 3L I-6 500hp plus engine in a pick-up truck. These are the glory days, get out there & enjoy them while we can.
saying they ALL have way overpriced trucks doesn't make it better or right. That is a silly argument. The one thing I cant stand about all you reviewer people is you all simp for the high prices for the manufacturer and that is garbage.
Sorry Tim, but I disagree. I would argue that Ram/ Stallentis does care about unsold inventory otherwise why would they be trying to offer big discounts / incentives? If dealers have a car lot full of old Rams, do you think they'll buy as many new ones?
The fact of the matter is Stallentis is currently topping the chart for the highest "days of supply" of all manufacturers. They've been trying to milk the current gen far too long and this new ram just doesn't offer anything drastically different enough to justify the high price tag.
They are late to the party and I believe will suffer the consequences now.
good one
How are you bragging on the Hemi reliability with their lifter tic issues, oiling issues, exhaust manifold stud issues?
Problem is: Hemi's have a LOT of issues.... multiple causes of various 'Hemi Engine Ticking.' Most are expensive to repair.
107,000 Canadian for full load Tungsten 😂 my salesman wants my TRX and said hell no 😂
Ok but if a dealer can’t sell current vehicles they won’t be able to intake new vehicles duh!
If you could speak more fluidly that would help tremendously.
He mumbles bad
They shoulda done what ford did. Keep the hemi ditch the trash pentastar v6 and just offer the the two turbos and the hemi.