I just thought of this... you should do a test to see which pen writes well on top of correction tape. I use a lot of correction tape and hate when pens scratch it off when I write over it. Just a thought! 🤓
Hi, I balance my budget in pen because I like to color code and use correction tape on mistakes. I use a pilot muliclick pen in 0.4 and have no issues with scratching or smearing. I think the small point makes for a less wet layer of ink being put down that in turn dries quickly, but its wet enough not to scratch. I also use uniball black tone pens I got on amazon with no issue. The colors are blue black, brown black, green black, etc. I hope this helps.
Le Pen is my favorite ever. One of the reasons is that they have a yellow that is legible when you write with it. It's in the retro pack only available on their website. Also you can buy the colors individually. There's nothing worse than buying a huge pack of pens and not being able to replace your favorite colors. I buy black ones in bulk.
Regarding the Arteza pens and the fact that their lids don't match the actual pen colour. I have found that an easy fix for this is some small white stickers. I colour them in and stick them on the pen, it then really easy to see the exact colour.
My favorites are the Staedtlers so I'm glad they did well; I don't like how rough the Stabilo's are. And the Papermate Flairs are fun too. Thanks for sharing! Esp. if they are highlighter friendly. Good info!
Just the video I never knew I needed. love it, so helpful. Staedter Triplus Fineliners are suprisingly amazing. I found a few of mine old ones from years ago ( maybe 4-5? ) and they still work.
Great review! Thanks for pointing out which ones were highlighters safe. I hadn't really given it much thought but it is good info to have. Paper Mate Flair medium tip has been my go-to cuz I like the fact that it's not a real real fine point. But I do like the color selection better for Stadtlers.
This thunderdome was the first time I caught you and your daughter live. I was having an up and down day in the pain department, and I don’t think I’ve ever laughed so hard in my entire life! 😂🍆 thanks for making a rough day pretty damn awesome.
I have a bunch of Staedtler fineliners, and I love them! I did use Stabilo fineliners previously, but I just didn’t use them that much. I am obsessed with your videos :-D
I thought this was SO helpful. I'm also very heavy handed when I write and I don't necessarily have the most 'correct' grip when I write. I find with pens that have a thinner barrel (the Bis intentisty and the Stabilo 88 are big offenders for me here) the pen isn't chunky enough for me to write without getting hand cramp pretty quickly. Love the flairs though, have ordered some today!
LOL girl. Tri is try. like triangle. like that barrel LOLOLOL TRIplus silly girl! PS I knew my fave would hold out!! I have been in love with those pens for years and years!!!
Late i know but a 12pk of staedler pens lasted me through several years of college notetaking, and some of the colors still work. A couple of the tips have gotten worn down but that happens when you use things, and anyways they just make a more bold line now instead of a super fine one.
Here in Northern Europe, you can easily buy Staedtlers and Stabilos. Also Bics are available. I had never heard of Papermate before I started watching planning videos last year. My favorite 0.4 colorful fineliner is Faber-Castell’s Grip Finepens. They have a triangle-shaped barrel but it’s much fatter than Staedtler’s and therefor much more comfortable.
We took a shopping trip to Regina, Canada a couple of months ago (from North Dakota) and they had a huge pack of the Papermate Flair Medium (24 pack) for $14 Canadian at their Costco. Hell yeah, I picked them up! :D
I was so sad I couldn't make it to the live Thunderdome, but this was a great review. I was surprised to see the Pen+Gear mentioned. I just picked up a set from Walmart the other day when I needed to mark up a document. Despite my heavy hand I found them pretty okay, but I agree with a lot of your assessment. Thanks so much for doing all the hard work so we don't have to!
Fantastic report, Cindy! I'm sorry to hear the Sharpie pens did so poorly but am definitely going to take another look at the Staedtlers. For some reason I was convinced they are more expensive but that may be because I initially was sampling individual pens at my local art supply store.
Staedtler and Stabilo are by german companys, they are both very available in Europe. The store brands are naturally not or hard to get here. Evrything else like the zebras etc are available online or sometimes if you're lucky in a good pen/ crafts store.
I love papermate flairs and stadtler fineliners, but hate that there are no names or numbers on the pens themselves. I found the names for the papermates and wrote them on a strip of label sticker and secured it on the pen with tape. The stadtler are just numbered so I still get a sample of the color to see what I want to use and helps with color coding. Thanks for the video!
Still feel like I’m at a sporting event cheering on my Papermate Flair medium tips and Staedtlers, who coincidentally scored very well! I find the Staedtlers fairly comfortably for how I hold a pen but I have only briefly tested them so far. I have a 36 pack coming this week though so here’s hoping I still like them! Thanks for this round up and the spreadsheet, very informative! And I second the person who said next Thunderdome should be brush pens!
I just found you tonight and I have to say, I subscribed right away. Im just getting back into art and coloring and have been watching videos for the last month or so. Unfortunately because of my fibro, some voices are super irritating BUT yours is very soothing. Not hard on the ears or head SO thank you 😊
I used to use the heck out of Papermate Flair. I recently bought the Arteza on a lightning deal at Amazon and I really like them. I just hate that they aren’t Copic-safe. I get around that by doing the line work after the coloring.
Thank you for your review! I agree on Staedtlers. They seem the perfect pen for me. I also hace some stabilo pens. The colours are brilliant, but I hated that I need to hold those vertically to write. This doesn't happen to staedtlers though. Or maybe I am also heavy handed. Stabilos only last a couple of months for me, when I use them for work. I loved Papermate flair M from your review but it turned out they are not sold in Russia. I also use maped graph peps and faber castell finepens. Are they sold in US too? I like the faber castell ones as they totally match the colours of faber castell felt tip pens pack.
Hi, here in the UK we have ARTEZA Inkonic Fineliner Pen Set, 0.4 mm Tips, Set of 48 Colours, Water-Based 0.4mm pens. Might you know whether they are the same as those you've shared please? I cannot seem to find the ones on your channel unfortunately. Thanks.
I've been using Stabilos for well over 25 years, Staedtler fineliners for over 10. Both are solid picks for drawing and writing purposes even though they're not all that colorfast. To be fair, most of the ones here aren't colorfast either, but Stabilos and Staedtlers do have a really good range of colors and as long as they aren't subjected to air and light, the colors will last a long time.
Thank you for all of the hard work on this! I agree I don't care for the triangle shape of the Staedtler's I do really like them a lot. I don't use them for hours at a time, so it doesn't bother me all that much. Have a GREAT week Cindy!!
Pilot V is not readily available in Brazil. In fact, never heard of it. Artists Loft and the other one from Michael's I think, I've heard of, but not easily accessible as well. But all the others we can buy, even if it's on JetPens or others stores like it. The most usual are definitely the Stabilo and the Staedtler. Papermate Flair is a bit more difficult, but we can find here. Both the UF and the Medium. Arteza only importing as well, but I do know about them.
Have you heard that Sharpe has discontinued the Extra Fine point markers? Do you have a recommendation that could come close to those? I’m so disappointed because I liked them so much more than the Ultra Fine!
Fun game: replace words in movie quotes with the word 'spooge'. Eg: No, Luke, I am your spooge; I'll never let go spooge, I'll never let go; first rule of spooge club...
I have stabile and Staedtler finalizers. should I try arteza fine liners? Just a little confused as I really like the finalizer pen from Yasutomo stylus 100 pen which is discontinued. Heard good things about amazon finalizer but don't know either it is good or not? Can you answer this question that amazon finalizers are better or arteza means which is better in writing and felling of writing with a fineliner.
First, I gotta say I love listening to you! You're an undercover riot! I'm originally from NY and I talk like you and find amusing silly little things that others might not. Second, I'm an artist and looking for the best fine liner colored pen/marker for finite detail work like hair and the such on my artwork that tends to range in many mediums. If you can possibly give me some ideas in that arena that would be awesome.
awesome-sauce review, I enjoy a good f-bomb and S-bomb in an art supply review 😁 egg plant ranking system 😂😂😂 you got a new subscriber hun. also yes the last set of pens (Steadtler) are available here in the UK on Amazon
I love the le pens but I'm currently in a hobonichi weeks. For some reason the black le pen changes color on the backside of my writing and bleeds through the page over time. It looks black when I write but turns green on the back of the page. None of the other colors of le pens do this. So weird. I'm currently using a tombow mono drawing pen and it works great with the tomoe river paper. Oh and I also LOVE papermate flairs and staedtlers.
I don't usually comment things like this, but I was looking for a good fineliner review video. However after a little over 3 minutes I had to stop the video due to the language. I have a child in my home and don't want to have to censor a coloring pen review video because of foul language. Everyone has their right to do whatever, not saying anything about that, just saying a coloring marker review (which I was really looking forward to watching) might not be the best type of video to drop F bombs. :-)
But in case of durability, if you push the Staedtler hard the nib bends and its shape changes. My favorite one is Stabilo. But since Arteza has the most variety of colors, do you think it's logical to buy 120 pack of it instead of 50 pack of Stabilo?
You confirmed what I knew - the Staedtler are the best fineliners. Trying to be cheap I wasted money buying a 100 count box of shuttle art fineliners and they are lousy. I use them for coloring and shuttle art left to much white space.
You can buy the staedler triplus fineliners in a 50 pack. So does that mean there are 50 colors or are there 2 duplicate colors when you buy the 50 pack?
I've been using Stabilos for well over 25 years, Staedtler fineliners for over 10. Both are solid picks for drawing and writing purposes even though they're not all that colorfast. To be fair, most of the ones here aren't colorfast either, but Stabilos and Staedtlers do have a really good range of colors and as long as they aren't subjected to air and light, the colors will last a long time.
I just thought of this... you should do a test to see which pen writes well on top of correction tape. I use a lot of correction tape and hate when pens scratch it off when I write over it. Just a thought! 🤓
Hi, I balance my budget in pen because I like to color code and use correction tape on mistakes. I use a pilot muliclick pen in 0.4 and have no issues with scratching or smearing. I think the small point makes for a less wet layer of ink being put down that in turn dries quickly, but its wet enough not to scratch. I also use uniball black tone pens I got on amazon with no issue. The colors are blue black, brown black, green black, etc. I hope this helps.
This video is EXACTLY what I've looking for! Thanks for the great rundown!!
Le Pen is my favorite ever. One of the reasons is that they have a yellow that is legible when you write with it. It's in the retro pack only available on their website. Also you can buy the colors individually. There's nothing worse than buying a huge pack of pens and not being able to replace your favorite colors. I buy black ones in bulk.
Regarding the Arteza pens and the fact that their lids don't match the actual pen colour. I have found that an easy fix for this is some small white stickers. I colour them in and stick them on the pen, it then really easy to see the exact colour.
hielandcoo45 this is so clever! I like this idea :)
My favorites are the Staedtlers so I'm glad they did well; I don't like how rough the Stabilo's are. And the Papermate Flairs are fun too. Thanks for sharing! Esp. if they are highlighter friendly. Good info!
Just the video I never knew I needed. love it, so helpful. Staedter Triplus Fineliners are suprisingly amazing. I found a few of mine old ones from years ago ( maybe 4-5? ) and they still work.
Great review! Thanks for pointing out which ones were highlighters safe. I hadn't really given it much thought but it is good info to have. Paper Mate Flair medium tip has been my go-to cuz I like the fact that it's not a real real fine point. But I do like the color selection better for Stadtlers.
Thank you for this summary! It's really helpful when I'm looking at what stationary to buy for the coming school year 😅
This thunderdome was the first time I caught you and your daughter live. I was having an up and down day in the pain department, and I don’t think I’ve ever laughed so hard in my entire life! 😂🍆 thanks for making a rough day pretty damn awesome.
Thanks for this 🙏🏼. It's helped me immensely in narrowing down my fine liner choices ...
I love the Staedtler's, they actually fit my callus perfectly.
I so appreciate the lefty test! Thank you!
I have a bunch of Staedtler fineliners, and I love them! I did use Stabilo fineliners previously, but I just didn’t use them that much. I am obsessed with your videos :-D
You rock! I love that you do all this work for us. Thank your daughter from a fellow lefty
Amazing Review! I hope I have a collection like yours one day😁
Thank you so much for this, I was looking for what colorful fine liner to buy and found your video. Thank you for being so thorough!
I thought this was SO helpful. I'm also very heavy handed when I write and I don't necessarily have the most 'correct' grip when I write. I find with pens that have a thinner barrel (the Bis intentisty and the Stabilo 88 are big offenders for me here) the pen isn't chunky enough for me to write without getting hand cramp pretty quickly. Love the flairs though, have ordered some today!
Agree on the Steadtlers.. I have every color and use all the time. Beautiful colors.
LOL girl. Tri is try. like triangle. like that barrel LOLOLOL TRIplus silly girl! PS I knew my fave would hold out!! I have been in love with those pens for years and years!!!
Stabilo have served me well combined with prismacolor and copics. about to try steadler
Sharpie art pen... Sounds like a shart pen 😂 *I'll show myself out*
Late i know but a 12pk of staedler pens lasted me through several years of college notetaking, and some of the colors still work. A couple of the tips have gotten worn down but that happens when you use things, and anyways they just make a more bold line now instead of a super fine one.
Here in Northern Europe, you can easily buy Staedtlers and Stabilos. Also Bics are available. I had never heard of Papermate before I started watching planning videos last year. My favorite 0.4 colorful fineliner is Faber-Castell’s Grip Finepens. They have a triangle-shaped barrel but it’s much fatter than Staedtler’s and therefor much more comfortable.
We took a shopping trip to Regina, Canada a couple of months ago (from North Dakota) and they had a huge pack of the Papermate Flair Medium (24 pack) for $14 Canadian at their Costco. Hell yeah, I picked them up! :D
Super helpful! Thank you for all the work you put into this!
I was so sad I couldn't make it to the live Thunderdome, but this was a great review.
I was surprised to see the Pen+Gear mentioned. I just picked up a set from Walmart the other day when I needed to mark up a document. Despite my heavy hand I found them pretty okay, but I agree with a lot of your assessment.
Thanks so much for doing all the hard work so we don't have to!
i have the full sets of stabilo and steadtler ... love them both ....
Fantastic report, Cindy! I'm sorry to hear the Sharpie pens did so poorly but am definitely going to take another look at the Staedtlers. For some reason I was convinced they are more expensive but that may be because I initially was sampling individual pens at my local art supply store.
I think you should have included the rushon petite fineliners.
I have the Stabilos. I got them at a craft store for $10 on sale during Christmas time. My niece and I think they are the bees knees. 😄
Staedtler and Stabilo are by german companys, they are both very available in Europe. The store brands are naturally not or hard to get here. Evrything else like the zebras etc are available online or sometimes if you're lucky in a good pen/ crafts store.
I love papermate flairs and stadtler fineliners, but hate that there are no names or numbers on the pens themselves. I found the names for the papermates and wrote them on a strip of label sticker and secured it on the pen with tape. The stadtler are just numbered so I still get a sample of the color to see what I want to use and helps with color coding.
Thanks for the video!
Still feel like I’m at a sporting event cheering on my Papermate Flair medium tips and Staedtlers, who coincidentally scored very well! I find the Staedtlers fairly comfortably for how I hold a pen but I have only briefly tested them so far. I have a 36 pack coming this week though so here’s hoping I still like them! Thanks for this round up and the spreadsheet, very informative! And I second the person who said next Thunderdome should be brush pens!
As a newbie trying to decide what to invest in, I really appreciate these product reviews.
I just found you tonight and I have to say, I subscribed right away. Im just getting back into art and coloring and have been watching videos for the last month or so. Unfortunately because of my fibro, some voices are super irritating BUT yours is very soothing. Not hard on the ears or head SO thank you 😊
Hello 😊
I used to use the heck out of Papermate Flair. I recently bought the Arteza on a lightning deal at Amazon and I really like them. I just hate that they aren’t Copic-safe. I get around that by doing the line work after the coloring.
Thank you for your review! I agree on Staedtlers. They seem the perfect pen for me. I also hace some stabilo pens. The colours are brilliant, but I hated that I need to hold those vertically to write. This doesn't happen to staedtlers though. Or maybe I am also heavy handed. Stabilos only last a couple of months for me, when I use them for work. I loved Papermate flair M from your review but it turned out they are not sold in Russia.
I also use maped graph peps and faber castell finepens. Are they sold in US too? I like the faber castell ones as they totally match the colours of faber castell felt tip pens pack.
Hi, here in the UK we have ARTEZA Inkonic Fineliner Pen Set, 0.4 mm Tips, Set of 48 Colours, Water-Based 0.4mm pens. Might you know whether they are the same as those you've shared please? I cannot seem to find the ones on your channel unfortunately. Thanks.
I've been using Stabilos for well over 25 years, Staedtler fineliners
for over 10. Both are solid picks for drawing and writing purposes even
though they're not all that colorfast. To be fair, most of the ones here
aren't colorfast either, but Stabilos and Staedtlers do have a really
good range of colors and as long as they aren't subjected to air and
light, the colors will last a long time.
I have large hands and absolutely love my Le pens . I’ve tried so many other, and always go back to my le pens
YAAASSS I’ve been waiting for this not so patiently! Okay time to watch! 😁
Le Pens 🖊 are my favorite
Arteza is the winner......yesssssssss......
Thank you for all of the hard work on this! I agree I don't care for the triangle shape of the Staedtler's I do really like them a lot. I don't use them for hours at a time, so it doesn't bother me all that much. Have a GREAT week Cindy!!
Papermate Flair and Staedtler Triplus are my faves!
I have a pen but I can't seem to find a way to operate it.
Pilot V is not readily available in Brazil. In fact, never heard of it. Artists Loft and the other one from Michael's I think, I've heard of, but not easily accessible as well. But all the others we can buy, even if it's on JetPens or others stores like it. The most usual are definitely the Stabilo and the Staedtler. Papermate Flair is a bit more difficult, but we can find here. Both the UF and the Medium. Arteza only importing as well, but I do know about them.
Papermate flair medium is my ride or die pen!
I hope to see this done on brush pens sometime in the future!
In Belgium, the Staedtler and Stabilo fineliners are easiest to find.
Have you heard that Sharpe has discontinued the Extra Fine point markers? Do you have a recommendation that could come close to those? I’m so disappointed because I liked them so much more than the Ultra Fine!
Staedlers are my shit! I love using them for coloring and in my planner and journal!
Found my staedler in Walmart. I love them because they are lefty friendly.
Which pen would be a good colored waterproof fineliner?
The luxor fine liners are 1 pound for 8 in Poundland
Fun game: replace words in movie quotes with the word 'spooge'. Eg: No, Luke, I am your spooge; I'll never let go spooge, I'll never let go; first rule of spooge club...
I have stabile and Staedtler finalizers. should I try arteza fine liners? Just a little confused as I really like the finalizer pen from Yasutomo stylus 100 pen which is discontinued. Heard good things about amazon finalizer but don't know either it is good or not? Can you answer this question that amazon finalizers are better or arteza means which is better in writing and felling of writing with a fineliner.
First, I gotta say I love listening to you! You're an undercover riot! I'm originally from NY and I talk like you and find amusing silly little things that others might not. Second, I'm an artist and looking for the best fine liner colored pen/marker for finite detail work like hair and the such on my artwork that tends to range in many mediums. If you can possibly give me some ideas in that arena that would be awesome.
yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy (do brush pen thunderdome next)
awesome-sauce review, I enjoy a good f-bomb and S-bomb in an art supply review 😁 egg plant ranking system 😂😂😂 you got a new subscriber hun. also yes the last set of pens (Steadtler) are available here in the UK on Amazon
Which of these would work the best with watercolor and/or gauche, either wet or dry?
Staedtler and Stabilo are readily available in Europe, as is another brand, Edding that's not available, as far as I know, in the U.S.
I love the le pens but I'm currently in a hobonichi weeks. For some reason the black le pen changes color on the backside of my writing and bleeds through the page over time. It looks black when I write but turns green on the back of the page. None of the other colors of le pens do this. So weird. I'm currently using a tombow mono drawing pen and it works great with the tomoe river paper. Oh and I also LOVE papermate flairs and staedtlers.
Great review Cindy, new here, I subscribed, thanks for taking the time.
Getting the 60 pack!
my le pens don't have a name on them. mine didn't come with the stickers you have FYI
I like your personality
My Steadtler babies won!!
14:38 OCTAGON SHAPE? LOL
You did not do the Bics fine tips?
I don't usually comment things like this, but I was looking for a good fineliner review video. However after a little over 3 minutes I had to stop the video due to the language. I have a child in my home and don't want to have to censor a coloring pen review video because of foul language. Everyone has their right to do whatever, not saying anything about that, just saying a coloring marker review (which I was really looking forward to watching) might not be the best type of video to drop F bombs. :-)
Girl you coulda used the same piece of paper! Don’t do it on our account. Great reviews btw. Very much appreciated
Am I among those jobless people who watched the entire video 😅😅😅😂😂😂
But in case of durability, if you push the Staedtler hard the nib bends and its shape changes. My favorite one is Stabilo. But since Arteza has the most variety of colors, do you think it's logical to buy 120 pack of it instead of 50 pack of Stabilo?
You confirmed what I knew - the Staedtler are the best fineliners. Trying to be cheap I wasted money buying a 100 count box of shuttle art fineliners and they are lousy. I use them for coloring and shuttle art left to much white space.
You can buy the staedler triplus fineliners in a 50 pack. So does that mean there are 50 colors or are there 2 duplicate colors when you buy the 50 pack?
I love you so much I like the video your so amazing💕
Sharpie art pens are my preferred, go figure
I really like those too
Dont waste money on Arteza fineliners. I have just returned my 120 set of fineliners. They are scrathy , dry and horrible.........The best part is box
What the hell is the lefty test...im a lefty and ive never heard of it
not every pencil is designed for left-handed writers.
It means, does it smear if your hand moves over it while you write
I hate the staedlters pens :/
Your language is bad.
I've been using Stabilos for well over 25 years, Staedtler fineliners
for over 10. Both are solid picks for drawing and writing purposes even
though they're not all that colorfast. To be fair, most of the ones here
aren't colorfast either, but Stabilos and Staedtlers do have a really
good range of colors and as long as they aren't subjected to air and
light, the colors will last a long time.
i what do you mean by light if I may ask