Livability for Expats: The Pros & Cons of Seville Spain
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- This city has been on our list of must-visit places since long before we knew each other and we were excited to finally spend some time here.
Seville Spain is a romantic European city with tons of history. It’s located in the Andalusian region of southwest Spain and people have been living in the area for over 2800 years.
It was ruled by the Romans for 700 years and then by the Moors for 800 years. Even the Vikings ruled it for 40 days in the year 844! Spain reclaimed it in the late 1400s under Queen Isabela.
Today, Seville is a popular place to visit and live due to its ancient history, rich culture, and modern amenities. We felt right at home meandering through the streets, eating at restaurants, shopping for food, and enjoying tapas at street-side cafes.
In this video, we’ll share our first impressions from our exploratory trip and take a look at the pros & cons of Seville as a place to live abroad.
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I went to Seville on July 2023. The level of love I have for this city, I cannot explain. It was hot but I did not feel the heat as much. There were moments that I felt like crying of happiness there! Hoping to be able to move there in the near future! ❤ My favorite city in the world!
Im here now on holidays I feel your words. I used to live in Sicily but lost my job in covid , this place is even better.
Not going to Seville in summer is a must-know
I was many times in Sevilla. I can tell you guys that this town is a special in every thing. Every city has a good and a bad side but Sevilla is for me the best
Absolutely share the same sentiment!
it looks great to explore.
We moved to Spain 4 years ago. We live along the Costa del Sol in the Province of Malaga. We love it, love Spain. Best decision we made. There are many incredible places one can live in Spain. Enjoy your time here. Hope you visit Malaga city and its amazing coast.
I love Fuengirola, Marbella and Puerto Banús
I was there late September/early October. The park near the waterfront was great and heard so many exotic sounding birds. Walked up to the castles and much more then had great food.
Malaga is killer! I loved it there. I could see living in that area. Absolutely wonderful
@@jcrivera24 I’m considering Fuengirola for relocation. . Are you living there?
@@therocknrollcook Unfortunately not anymore. And to be very honest, I lived close to Fuengirola some 20+ years ago. I guess I'd have said "loved" instead of "love", unless nothing has changed there concerning its beauty and charm.
@AmeliaAndJP I wanted to share with you about my experience when touching fruit and vegetables at a stand in Nerja, Spain. Same thing happened, so I asked two of my local friends. They both said that it is considered poor manners to handle the produce at a private market. You see, they work on the premise of trust and personal recommendation when buying their fresh produce and fish. This is why you will see a bunch of different vendors selling the same thing in a market, and the patrons always go to the same vendor they’ve been going to for years. Even though there are many others. They trust the one vendor to tell them the truth.
Another interesting element of the Spanish culture is that it is actually very structured. They have a lot of rules, even for little things, and they follow them judiciously - especially the older ones. It’s even more so in northern Spain! So your experience about where you were seating is a result of one of those rules.
So it isn’t that they weren’t friendly, it was just you were violating one of their rules. And they really frown on violating rules. That is why it is a safe place and kids can be out at late at night and so on.
And I don’t think that happens only in Spain. I had a similar experience in a street market in London. Apparently the convention is that you have to ask the grocer for whatever you are looking for. You can’t just take it yourself.
If you are tourist, how are you supposed to know those rules? I know these vendors realize you don't so they should be a little gentler with their "notification".
It's the same in Boston Massachusetts USA. At the Haymarket, which has vendors with push carts, the vendors pick which pieces you get. This is because if the customer chooses, at the end of the day, only the bruised or ugly pieces will be left
Spain would be the ideal place for me to live. Friendly people. Good food. Good music. Never had a bad day in Spain.
We were there the week after Easter weekend talk about people ! But what a great city ,don’t forget Spain gets 90 million tourists per year unlike central and South America ! We used the buses between cities,maybe slower but one third the price,the views of the countryside was spectacular,seats were reserved not the high speed train blur!
We just returned from Seville. Amazing city, very safe and the food unbelievable. We loved the Alcazar, the Setas, Plaza de Espana, the architecture, etc. all was so good. We stayed for 3 days and was not enough so we definitely will be back in Seville
You guys had me almost convinced to move to Ecuador but last few years I’ve been going to Spain and decided to move there. We purchased property near Altea north of Alicante. Super nice.
Congrats!
Altea is beautiful, good move!
Congratulations and WELL DONE I HOPE you guys are very happy there
Seville is absolutely beautiful, as you've mentioned. I've been there once (currently live in Madrid) and had a wonderful time. Corte Ingles isn't a mall, but a department store with multiple levels. They are all over Spain, as are the small Chinese dollar store type stores (called tiendas Chinas). Another great thing about Sevilla is that there's a Costco there.
I brought my Costco card just to get in there and take a peek. Silly itinerary item but sometimes we just have to have some. In 6 weeks living in Sevilla I never had the time to get there. Too many other things to do. Me encanta Sevilla
I love Spain. Wonderful country and Sevilla has a special charm
I have not visited Sevilla yet. But I am from Cuenca-Ecuador, living in Berlin and considered living in Spain a few times. Once visited Barcelona, because it is big like Berlin and well 2 months forward we decided against it. It is just not so friendly and too touristy, simply not a fit for us. Then we visited Valencia and it reminded me of Cuenca a bit, because you get to places so quickly, you can walk around everywhere, it is calmed, it is not as popular, so while there are tourist, it is not tourist overcrowded... and the people are just SO NICE. After Barcelona we thought people in Spain were not as friendly as in Ecuador... but Valencia... is something else. Look it up and visit it! Lots of people fall in love with the city! It has beach and loooots of green and very modern architecture here and there, while old one too... I dream of spending my winters there. 😍
Also about the tipping... in Europe there is no tipping on the bill but everyone just says before you pay how much you want to tip and they add this on the total, cash or on the card. It is about 5% to 20% :) depending on the service, and everywhere usually, from coffee places to restaurants hehe Spain is the same 😁
I'm very curious about Valencia. I'm doing a explorative trip there and the Algarves next year.
I spent last summer in Spain and love that country! So many historic places and beautiful architecture. You didn't mention in the Seville cathedral is the resting place and a large memorial to Christopher Columbus.
If you like history make sure you don’t miss the Alhambra in he city of Granada. Spain’s finest and most iconic citadel.
We love all of Andalusia but especially the White Hill towns-Jerez de la Frontera being our favorite. We spent a few weeks in Cadiz which was heavenly. It’s on the water and only a half hour boat ride to Morocco where we spent a fabulous month. I hope you can take the time to explore that area. It is utterly delightful.
Spent six weeks in Sevilla last summer. Your observations are spot on. We did enjoy getting our Costco fix there though. While we were there it was Phoenix AZ hot. Well into the 100's.
If you think Portugal was expensive for expats, wait till you find out about Spain. You need medical insurance to be considered for a visa. A friend of mine was unable to get insurance due to a pre-existing condition there ineligible for a visa.
España es un país hermoso ❤️
You are there at the right time of year, Seville gets really hot in the summer. Safety seems like a important thing to you, I hope you find a place where you feel comfortable. Spain has an amazing culture. During the summer Northern Spain is better less hot and not so touristy. You need to get to England for the good Indian food.
You are right during summer time most pople go to the north of Spain ( Galicia, Asturias,Cantabria and Basque country) specially during july and August , now due to climate change is very hot in the central and south of Spain ,and yes in autuum , winter and spring is a good time to stay in the south , good comment.
My wife and I were in Sevilla first week of October this year, thinking things would have cooled down by then. The temps every day were 39C/100F and it seemed to be more humid than equally hot Granada. I also saw a video recently referring to Andalusia as the Iberian Oven. I can believe it!
We made the mistake of visiting in July! The heat was so unbearable that we ended up spending as long as we could in the outdoor restaurants to take advantage of the overhead misters.🤣
India seems like where you need to go for good Indian food.
there are plenty of good indian restaurants in spain too
I am from the part of Spain named The Natural Paradise (Asturias), Asturians and Andalusians always compete to be voted the most friendly and nicer people of Spain but for me the most beautiful city in Spain is Sevilla, although nowadays Madrid and Valencia are becoming incredibly beautiful with a great balance between the old and the new.
Moving to Spain is not only walking on the street. Its involved EU visa and high taxes
Impuestos are my major concern.
Omg this is so crazy I’ve been following you guys religiously and after watching your Portugal videos I’ve been thinking about my trip to Seville almost 20 years ago and now I see your video on it! Can’t wait to watch
I'm staying near Malaga this month. It's OK...what I like the most is that it's well connected to visit other towns in Andalucia and the Costa del Sol. I really liked Granada, so I hope that's a place you chose to visit. I prefer the cooler weather in the mountains (although I know it still gets hot in summer, but not quite as bad as Seville). My very favorite city of all is Valencia, but it's become more crowded and expensive unfortunately.
Spain is wonderful. Love Seville.
We love Spain and wanted to move there until we spoke to 3!different tax professionals in Spain and discovered that income taxes and annual wealth taxes are exorbitant. Yes you are credited what you pay in the U.S. but normal income tax rates (we are retired) are 30+% for international income (eg dividends, pensions, etc) plus in most parts of Spain - there is an annual wealth tax of around 2% on your net assets (even if all assets are in U.S.). We calculated we’d be paying $1000 per month just in extra Spanish income taxes……
As I recall hearing in the last few months, the tax implications for retirees and digital nomads are not that good. It's be nice to hear from you about what you think of living there on a permanent basis.
Since you don't want to own a car, this won't impact you, but we found the traffic in Seville INSANE!!! Cars on the inside lane of a multi-lane roundabout suddenly cutting across to exit right, etc... We breathed a sigh of relief when we got out of there!
wouh, that's really weird, unusual
The friendliness depends a great deal on understanding the culture. People were very kind to me. A little cold but tourism has kind of ruined their neighborhoods.
Foreigners expect spanish people to talk to them immediately and integrate them as soon as they see them. That happens when you have a huge stereotype. We tend to treat them as we treat here each other. It's nothing special being a foreigner here, so common. So, in order to integrate, they are the ones that need to be noticed for their interest to integrate.
We tried to go to the oldest bar in Seville which was close to our hotel and every time we went it was something-closed for a private party, etc. All we wanted to do was have a drink at the oldest bar.
I love Spain. Mass transit there is so great. I’d like to check out Salamanca and Zaragoza as places to live.
Awesome. Europe is popular for a reason. It’s just gorgeous.
Haven't been to Seville yet but two other trips to Spain were incredible, Valencia and Alicante were my favourite. I can definitely see us living there and are hoping to visit again next year combined with some time in southern France. The high speed rail is so good :).
We were in Sevilla in mid June 2022 and we really enjoyed it there but it was HOT with temperatures around 40C (104F). We were also quite taken by the strong Moorish architecture and influence you see throughout Spain to this day.
you need to check the forecast before coming back!!
We owned an apartment that we rented as a vacation home for a few years in Marbella which is a nice small coastal city. When we visited Seville, we loved it and especially the downtown area. Our observations and likes and dislikes were similar to yours. I think I could live there becuase after working in the Middle East and living in Phoenix, the heat in Seville summer is tolerable to me.
You don't need to get along with the heat in summer, we don't do it. Everyone goes outside seville in summer
Hi 👋 Amelia & JP , Seville is an awesome city but I think 💭 Cadiz is better for living plus it has beautiful beaches !! Check it out guys !! It’s the oldest city in Western Europe and was founded 3000 years ago by the Phoenicians 😎…see you there 🤙🏄♂️
both cities are amazing for living
but seville is bigger and has more things, as a capital city
Thrilled you folks are out traveling the world! :)
I discovered Flamenco dance shows in Seville. We went to a tiny place called Tablao Flamenco Los Gallos. Twenty years later I still seek out and attend Flamenco performances, even here in Bangkok this year. Something you may have to get used to in Spain is that they take their afternoon siestas seriously. Everything closed down from about 12-4 and then opened up until late at night. Dinner or some late night meals start very late at night. I'm not a late night person so I'm not sure how well I would adapt to that living time schedule. Otherwise the city is vibrant and beautiful and the food is outstanding. I haven't been there in 20 years so I'm sure it has changed and is more expensive.
Yes, the 12 - 4 shutdown based on ancient customs to avoid the heat. Ancient and heat, two words that eludes the climate change cultists. 🤣
Thank you two, for your kind and informative information. I haven’t commented lately, as work is keeping me busy. Watching your channel is such a pleasure. Thank you! 🎉❤
I hope you went to the roof of that El Corte Inglés. It’s a terrace restaurant with phenomenal views of the city. I lived in Sevilla for 6 weeks about 5 min walk north of that location. Even the Aldi across the street from it was amazing. Highly recommend it.
I was just in Sevilla on my own and it was fabulous. Al Sultan was the middle eastern restaurant I ate at every day. Some of the best I've had, the most friendly lovely owners and staff. A big part of why I loved my experience. Besides a fantastic city.
did you go to seville and you ate arab food??? what's wrong with you??? enjoy andalusian cuisine!!!
How perfect that you are speaking about Seville . Today we booked a month in Seville from mid December . we are in Gaia and love the area 10 mins from Porto. beginning of 6 month Europe slow travelling . Lived in Mexico for 2 yrs ….so following you , enjoying our insights
Gaia is wonderful! Hopefully you’ll enjoy Seville as much as we did. Safe travels!
Sevilla, Granada, in general, Southern Spain, wonderful musik, gorgeous architecture, polite people, and wonderful food. Unfortunately, you have to pay a higher price compared to South America.
Jajaja ...hello is Europa. Hellooo
Loving your tour of Spain.
Agreed! wife and I are starting to look for places and recently went to Portugal and Spain. We are choosing Spain as of now however we have a few more trips left before making a final decision. As of now we are going with the non-lucrative visa option
Thanks for posting this, Amelia and JP! I backpacked through Spain in 2001 and Seville was definitely my favorite city; I ended up coming back to it just to spend more time there
I can't wait to take a trip! Thank y'all for the insight. Lookin' fresh JP 🔥
You guys are the best! such valuable info you offer for prospective travelers of those countries you visit, hope you keep at it for a long time!
Thank you!
4:23 In reality, Moorish rule in Seville lasted around 500 years, from the 8th century to the 13th century. The 800 years that are always mentioned relate to the entire time in which there were Moorish kingdoms in the Peninsula, but not the entire Peninsula was under Moorish rule all that time, far from it. The last kingdom to fall was that of Granada, in 1492, we can only talk about 800 years there.
Otra vez .? ...los árabes del siglo 8 eran los EEUU de su tiempooooo. .. no los de ahora . No te justifiques .joe
The major tourist attractions in the region were built by arabs not spaniards. Without their fabulous architecture you have a few churches. Who cares how long it was...800 years is 800 years. Get over it! Your comment reaks of racism
Nice and helpful tips - thank you
I had to drive a normal sized rental car on narrow streets and roads in Britain and France. I saw so many missing wing mirrors! I'm really enoying your Continental travel - it's my favorite place and you are such fun. (Don't touch the produce in France either.)...Like, like my friends. Suzu
Thanks for the produce tip!
Or in England
Love your videos, they contain exactly the kind of information I need as I slow-travel through Europe. The TP-flushing issue is a deal breaker for me, as is the heat.
I love Sevilla! Gracias! Great video.
We were just there! What a wonderful city.
I lived in Spain for about 8 months but it was a long time ago. Before the word "overtourism" existed.
El Corte Inglés is an upscale department store chain in Spain. In several parts of Latin America I've seen El Corte Inglés products available in supermarkets.
I've been in stores in Spain in which the owner greets you by saying "'¿Que quieres?" (What do you want?) an almost shocking degree of informality. I've never heard a store owner in Mexico talk to a customer like that.
I visited Seville in October and thought it was very hot. I can't imagine what it's like in July and August.
The summers must be brutal!
I was there April through mid-May this year. It was brutally hot already in May. Nearing 100° especially during the latter part of my time there. How do they do it?!?!
@@SandiTerps Staying inside during the day and only going out until late at night
Amelia and JP you look amazing!!! Thank you for your videos!
You need to leave Sevilla for the beach in August. Extreme summer heat. But Cadiz is an excellent option for summer anyway.
you guys are so much fun....and I love all of your observations as you roam around. I have no intentions of moving outside of the U.S., but I am looking forward to my 10 day visit of Spain in March of next year... I am most looking forward to Barcelona and the Andalucia area.... Would be nice to just run into the two of you while traveling....😊
Interesting to hear that Seville is so bike friendly- that is a big plus for me.
El Corte Ingles is a department store chain in Spain. They are great- more like how the really comprehensive department stores used to be in the states.
Thanks for sharing..,
I visited Seville and Granada in late September and loved them both! I enjoyed Seville for the reasons you gave. I hope that you're able to make it to Málaga, which I hear is warm but less hot than Seville in summer.
Great analysis. Thanks!
Glad you liked it!
I was born in Quito but i live in Madrid since 2001, sadly Ecuador cant be compared to Spain in quality of life, infraestructure and services. Even now that Spain has been dregrading year by year.
Sevilla is one of the most beautiful cities in the world, it has a lot of culture and its very different to the rest of Spain, its a great place to live, but the summers are realy really really hot there.
Other places like Granada, Malaga and some parts of Alicante are awesome too.
I live in Madrid, its very different to the southern coast and more expensive, different way of life, but it has anything you'll ever need and its also beautiful.
If the european regulations and all that politic sht keep stepping into the freedom of the people here in Europe, i may go back to Quito... now that the Metro is working and that i have a place to live there, i'd rather have less stuff than freedom.
@froggerc625 I live in Cotacachi. Been here 11 years.
So cool you guys got to Granada y Sevilla! We were there first week in October and it was 39C/100F every day! We also got to Granada and Cordoba which were just as hot but Granada seemed less humid. Both very much worth it for the Alhambra and the Mosque Cathedral respectively. We also got to Madrid Toledo and Barcelona. A book I read said Barcelona feels the least like Spain and it is much more of a European feeling city with fewer pedestrian streets but cooler weather being Oceanside. Another added surprise there is that Catalan is the primary language with Spanish second and Catalan is a mix of Spanish and French but with logical (to English and Spanish speakers) spelling.
I was there in late September/early October and weather was great. Malaga and Cordoba were nice too. Still crowded during that time.
I was in Sevilla that same week. I didn't notice any footage from inside the royal alcazar. f you didn't go inside you missed the most gorgeous part of the city.
Thanks for sharing your personal experience at the avocado market with the rude merchant. You gave me a good laugh sharing a personal human experience that of all us including myself (living in Budapest) experience as a traveler or expats! Love your videos. I am a US citizen planning to relocate to Spain or Central/South America.
This video is so informative 👍😍
We were just recently in Palma and Cadiz...so nice.
Mediterranean culture generally is up later. One of the reasons is to take advantage of the cooler temperatures of the evening. Even during Roman times the activities went way later into the night that is currently the case for N. Europe and US/Canada.
you're just talking about summer
Love your videos, its like you guys are doing all the retirement scouting for us , well at least for people that are ready to retire
You both look very sharp in this video ! JP has on a great shirt 👍
Gorgeous City! Thanks!
Great vid tks!
Sevilla and Quito are my 2 favorite cities in the world! I was born in Quito and Sevilla somehow seems like Quito's big sister. My favorite neighborhood is barrio Santa Cruz (part of the old Jewish quarter).
I visited Seville in January and loved it. This is a great time to visit; Seville becomes the hottest city in Europe in the summer.
it's not the hottest
El Corte Ingles is a major chain, stores tend to be huge and they sell appliances, kitchen cabinets, China and luxury brands, in Malaga they have a rooftop cafe with sweeping vistas of the city. As always enjoyed your tour of Sevilla, beautiful town.
But the medical care scene here in Ecuador is unbeatable as Ecuador is small and medically well networked, up to date, and of good value.
I loved your video and love all of them..i would only comment that Andalusians are known to be very friendly and was surprised your comments on friendliness. I found Sevilla to be extremely friendly.... but agree on everything else. I would suggest you go to Malaga to compare.
I am from Ecuador, and I usted to live in Sevilla for 6 years, it is beautiful
Nice video. El Corte Ingles is a Spanish department store chain that also includes a grocery store in the basement. They are all around Spain and have branches in Lisbon & Porto as well.
Thanks for the info!
I would not recommend Sevilla in the summer of June, July, and August - 40 degrees Celius. I escaped next morning to coastal city Malaga for 10 degrees relief.
Ha! I knew Spain was on your list to hit! Hope you manage to do Italy as well on your Europe swing.
You might find the summer quite hot , temperatures often go over 40deg for several weeks and even early October it was 35deg every day.
We loved our visit to Seville a few years ago. Oud only complaint was that the AIrBnB was smaller than expected and had an odd smell. We had amazing food and wine in Seville.
I have been to Cuenca and Seville, hands down I prefer Seville. Both cities have beautiful architecture but there is so much more in Seville. There are no beautiful parks in Cuenca. I speak Spanish which surprised many of the people (I am a blonde, green eyes)I chatted with, I found them to be super friendly. I definitely could spend my fall/winter in Seville.
You mean Cuenca in Spain or in Ecuador?
I wouldn’t live there full time. It’s brutally hot in the summer. There’s a real water shortage. And the flying cockroaches are as big as your thumb. Having said that- I dream of returning for another chance to experience Semana Santa and Feria two weeks later. Just magical!
Nobody stays in seville all summer. We go travelling or secondary house. What water shortage are you talking about?? I've been living here for 20 years and there's non water shortage going on. COCKROACHES???? I've never seen one in Seville. Maybe you should check where are you staying and eating darling
Congrats on the big spread in the Daily Mail. Very nice .
Nice, I hope you stay there
i lived in Sevilla and you tip!
I hope you go to Malaga on your scouting trip. I was in Sevilla for a month last year, it was okay. Loved learning about the history though.
You guys look great today! ❤👍🏼
Thank you!
thank you
Funny, but Italy has the same mannerisms. You have to request the level of ripeness of the fruit or vegetable you want, and they will hand it to you. Same for the TP. I agree about Portugal, much more laid back and friendly. I have lived in both countries, but my love will always be Spain.
Hola amigos! I am sad to see that you’re looking to leave Ecuador, my home country btw, but totally understandable. My wife and I at one point thought of moving back, but things are just not the same 🙁.
Now on your trip to Europe, we loved Portugal, we believe is beautiful , safe, and affordable. Spain is on our options list, as well as Italy. Looking forward to your next video. Buena suerte buscando su próximo país. Un abrazo!
Many people are going to italy to.
En España te sentirás como en casa, hay muchísimos ecuatorianos
Beautiful videos of many of my favorite places in that wonderful city. Thank you for including some history highlights along with other observations. I would caution you against comparing one city and country to others you have visited. Each city should be judged on its own merits, not held up against those of other cities in other countries. Going into a new area and expecting it to be like somewhere else you've been is what I find most offensive in many tourists I've run into.
Please try to keep the comparisons to a minimum.
Love the content. JP where do you get
your button down shirts?
We got a couple shirts at Zara.
Great video, I have been living in Sevilla for the past year and you pretty much nailed it. It's very safe , amazing architecture, great food, takes locals a little bit to warm up to foreigners and it's very hot in the summer. In fact, I'm probably moving to Malaga before next summer where it might be 93 degrees and Sevilla will be 107 or hotter. But Sevilla is overall an amazing city.
In fact, nobody stays in seville in summer, we all go outside, and then return in september
We were there in Seville that week of the Latin Grammys and stayed at Calle Gestoso off the square where Las Cetas de Sevillas are. You showed the giant structure on your video.
It looks like a great place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there. It's beautiful and I love the architecture, the food looked delicious!
your loss darling
We lived in Portland prior to moving to Portugal and an expensive lunch for us was no more than $50. I would be horrified at a $100 bill.
Was that pre-pandemic? We fly from Quito to PDX this week, and I am really afraid of US prices in the PNW these days. When we went back to the US in August, it cost us nearly $9000 to visit for a month. F that.
@@BOULDERGEEK Post…. Yeah it’s crazy expensive on the West coast right now. Not to mention they expect you to tip starting at 25%…
I knew you would love Spain. Wait until Barcelona -amazing.
Don't forget Gerona. Super city. I lived there for 4 years.
You two look happy 😊
We are having a great time!
Since you're used to cloudy weather, I would recommend Burgos in Spain.
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