Secret Pokémon Relatives; Creating New Obvious Evolution Branches!

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  • čas přidán 22. 01. 2024
  • Plenty of Pokémon evolve, even long after their initial introduction, but sometimes there's a clear relative of a Pokémon that for whatever reason goes completely unnoticed by those who bare a remarkable resemblance, like maybe an Alomomola with Luvdisc! So let's look through and see if we can't connect some Pokémon together for being so alike, even if that wasn't their intention...
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  • @k2basior
    @k2basior Před 4 měsíci +137

    Half of the Megas would make good Normal Evo with Mawile being a perfect example

    • @MrTommygunz0482
      @MrTommygunz0482 Před 4 měsíci +19

      Same for mega Lopbunny.

    • @Watch-0w1
      @Watch-0w1 Před 4 měsíci +14

      Yeah idk why mega exist for 2 stage pkm

    • @Dawg347
      @Dawg347 Před 4 měsíci +8

      @@Watch-0w1this does raise a question.
      If mega evolution does come back, however the gen that reintroduces it also gives some of those 2 stage Pokémon a 3rd stage, what would happen?

    • @PHiLLy2c
      @PHiLLy2c Před 4 měsíci +3

      I disagree

    • @Watch-0w1
      @Watch-0w1 Před 4 měsíci +7

      @@Dawg347 we can say the mega stone force a evolution that was stable and beneficial to the pkm

  • @shortcake6984
    @shortcake6984 Před 4 měsíci +40

    10:09 technically blipbug and dotter are based off of ladybird beetle larvae and pupae respectively, so it does still make sense. But a superhero ladybird becoming a psychic sci if supervillain also makes sense, so it could work either way.

    • @Watch-0w1
      @Watch-0w1 Před 4 měsíci +4

      You die a hero or you live long enought to be a villain.
      But u can also say ledian look like a alien and next stage evolve to a UFO

    • @zimonzieclown1633
      @zimonzieclown1633 Před 4 měsíci +5

      Maybe if they made a split evolution for Ledyba:
      1. Ledyba (Bug) --> Ledian (Bug/Fighting) --> ??? (Bug/Fighting)
      2. Ledyba (Bug) --> Dottler [but coloured red or something instead of yellow] (Bug/Psychic) --> Orbeetle (Bug/Psychic)
      That could be a good way of highlighting the whole superhero vs. supervillain thing imo.

    • @zimonzieclown1633
      @zimonzieclown1633 Před 4 měsíci +3

      Or you could just give Ledian an evolution that's Bug/Fighting and make it rivals with the Orbeetle line; that could work too.

    • @falcon_arkaig
      @falcon_arkaig Před 4 měsíci +3

      I was gonna say that lol. I'm a Zoology nerd so I was confused when he said that bc Ladybug larvae look like that in real life. Many bug type Pokemon do that too, larvae -> pupae -> adult so idk why that's an issue here?

  • @jacekmaraj1774
    @jacekmaraj1774 Před 4 měsíci +20

    Whiscash , flabebe and Ledian really look like pre evolutions to said pokemon 😭😭😭

  • @CGaboL
    @CGaboL Před 4 měsíci +9

    I’m not entirely sold on Ledian evolving into Orbeetle.
    But I could see the line leaning more onto the superhero theme and becoming basically a Kamen Rider.

  • @AZ-697
    @AZ-697 Před 4 měsíci +9

    Swanna being connected to Psyduck makes no sense.

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci

      Please elaborate...

    • @AZ-697
      @AZ-697 Před 4 měsíci +7

      @@emperorcubone It just makes no sense. I disagree with you. They look nothing alike and conceptually are different things. Your reasoning for linking them together is weak.

    • @VampirePrinceKRS
      @VampirePrinceKRS Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@AZ-697 exactly. Psyduck's a Platypus not a Duck. connecting a Platypus to a Swan makes no sense.

    • @AZ-697
      @AZ-697 Před 4 měsíci +3

      @@VampirePrinceKRS and Golduck brings in Kappa elements too. Neither are winged for a reason.

  • @ShayTheValiant
    @ShayTheValiant Před 4 měsíci +31

    It also doesn't help that in Pokémon Advanced during the Trainer's Choice segment of an episode, they incorrectly stated that Arbok evolves into Seviper.

  • @jodygrottino8257
    @jodygrottino8257 Před 4 měsíci +8

    Psyduck and Swanna are better separate.
    First, Psyduck is not a "plain duck" by any means, it's actually heavily characterised: for example it has some traits that are more similar to platypus, namely the lack o wings in favour of "hands", a trait that carries on to Golduck having fins on all 4 instead of 2 fins and 2 wings like normal ducks.
    Also the concept of Psyduck revolvers on the struggle to contain it's psychic powers causing him migraine (If there's a missed opportunity here, it is the Psyduck line not being psychic type).
    Ducklett is actually the "plain duck" which evolves into a swan as a reference to the ugly duckling's tail.
    Both the lines have finite concepts that manage to settle the two ducks apart (and also they're both solid concepts in my opinion, but this is more subjective), sure, one might be more forgettable than the other but that's not strange out of 1000+ Pokémon.
    For the others I can mostly see the connection however, if there's two Pokémon based on similar things, I think they should rather settle apart from eachother in an effective way instead of being forcedly related.
    I don't think this is a good way to "save" a forgotten 'mon, they would probably become even more forgettable or perhaps even actively hated by the fans for being recognised as "foreign bodies" into an established line (muck like Bellossom is often criticized for not being connected enough to the Oddish line, for example).

    • @arininquotes8396
      @arininquotes8396 Před 4 měsíci +4

      Agree with this about Psyduck and Swanna. I don't dislike either of them, but there are better ways to update them if GF felt it was necessary, like giving Golduck a regional evolution with the water/psychic type (and actually making it gold!). Swanna I'm less sure about, maybe just a really meta-relevant move or some kind of gimmick form/mega if those come back.

  • @soulare
    @soulare Před 4 měsíci +30

    Praying for Ledyian (Bug/Fighting)to have a new evolution 🦦

  • @KnightSoulsG
    @KnightSoulsG Před 4 měsíci +12

    Wishcash has the most amazing feat = stronger than a masterball!

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci +6

      True; more powerful than any Legendary!

    • @TheShadow1347
      @TheShadow1347 Před 4 měsíci +2

      It's the only Pokemon to ever not get caught by the Master Ball in the anime and Terapagos is the only Pokemon to break a Master Ball after being caught in one

  • @domesticus2958
    @domesticus2958 Před 4 měsíci +10

    Mega Banette ABSOLUTELY should've been a normal evolution. It's so cool looking

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci +3

      I can get behind this! We needed it to match Dusknoir anyway!

    • @jazzercise300
      @jazzercise300 Před 4 měsíci

      Eviolite banette might be kinda dope. M Banette also would be way cooler as an evo then Dusknoir

  • @rainbowphoenix1363
    @rainbowphoenix1363 Před 4 měsíci +5

    OH MY GOD YES FINALLY IM SO VINDICATED WITH SOMEONE ELSE WHO SEES WHISCASH EVOLVING INTO DONDOZO

  • @jgr7487
    @jgr7487 Před 4 měsíci +32

    Pretty much all non-3rd stage pkmn that got a Mega should have gotten a normal evolution instead. Absol, Heracross, Kangaskhan, Mawile, Pinsir are in the same situation as Houndoom. Kangaskhan didn't even need to change its stats (just like Scyter share its BST with its evos), as Parental Bond would already boos it.
    I have always thought that Karrablast looks like a pre-evo of both Heracross & Pinsir. It could keep Excavalier with the same evolution method. On that note, Wiscash could evolve if there's a Tatsugiri in the party.
    I really like ideas that link older pkmn with those from Unova, but the case for Psyduck was kinda weak imo.

    • @Watch-0w1
      @Watch-0w1 Před 4 měsíci +3

      Tatsugiri kind look like barboach.
      U can say whiscash got confused with his baby

    • @toumabyakuya
      @toumabyakuya Před 4 měsíci +1

      *"Kangaskhan didn't even need to change its stats (just like Scyter share its BST with its evos), as Parental Bond would already boos it."*
      Dude, this would make Kanga the second Pokemon to ever be part of the Anything Goes category because of how broken it would be.

    • @jgr7487
      @jgr7487 Před 4 měsíci

      @@toumabyakuya base Kanga + Eviolite would also be broken, & I love it.

    • @toumabyakuya
      @toumabyakuya Před 4 měsíci

      @@jgr7487 Maybe, but it would become annoying seeing that Pokemon everywhere.

    • @jgr7487
      @jgr7487 Před 4 měsíci

      @@toumabyakuya it's just an average Kanga with Parental Bond, not Mega-Kanga.

  • @rainbow_vader
    @rainbow_vader Před 4 měsíci +14

    The Charcadet line and the Ralts line could be related like Garchomp and Sharpedo are theorized to be

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci +2

      I could honestly see that happening at some point!

  • @GurrenPrime
    @GurrenPrime Před 4 měsíci +3

    For Blipbug becoming a ladybug, it’s based on ladybug larva, which are somewhat caterpillar-like. It’s not a perfect 1-to-1 match but I see the connection.

  • @chadcolson7193
    @chadcolson7193 Před 4 měsíci +2

    3:00 fun fact EC, psyduck has literally been available in every main series game to date, so yeah “pretty much every game” is accurate😂

  • @domidoodleYT
    @domidoodleYT Před 4 měsíci +2

    I’ve thought of a lot of these before this video, but the Flabebe and Comfey connection makes so much sense and I’ve literally never thought about it before. Great video!

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci +1

      It's all I could think about from the day I laid eyes on it; it's just Alolan Flabebe...

  • @Yoshigamingchannel
    @Yoshigamingchannel Před 4 měsíci +2

    The only person that thinks seviper is related to the ekans line is ash in trainer’s choice most snakes are poisonous so two of them isn’t surprising

  • @HesGotaGun505
    @HesGotaGun505 Před 4 měsíci +3

    I still have hope that we could someday get a baby mon linking Tauros and Miltank. A single baby species with distinct male and female formes whose stats correspond to their evolutions.

    • @jazzercise300
      @jazzercise300 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Yea I like the taurus, miltank connection. Taurus and boufflant tho? Nah

    • @TheBestEver1998
      @TheBestEver1998 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@jazzercise300a three link would even be better, a regular baby cow with three possible evolutions would be dope

  • @Yoshigamingchannel
    @Yoshigamingchannel Před 4 měsíci +1

    But the thing is psyduck isn’t a duck it’s platypus which isn’t actually a bird or related to one so it wouldn’t make any sense since they aren’t even close to being related

  • @kennedysamarakody4925
    @kennedysamarakody4925 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Its weird because in the English dub, there was a error where the anime told us Arbok does evolve to Seviper.

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci +1

      I remember that; just slightly worse than saying "Grew-don" in the official Pokerap...

    • @kennedysamarakody4925
      @kennedysamarakody4925 Před 4 měsíci

      @@emperorcubone right

    • @Compucles
      @Compucles Před 4 měsíci

      @@emperorcubone ...or Pid-jit for Pidgeot.

  • @Joey15811
    @Joey15811 Před 4 měsíci +2

    I want a region like sinnob that a solid dex chunk is new babies and evos to make pokemon feel complete.
    With dex sizes getting decent again, no excuse not to or to have so many new standlones. Take some legendaries spots as they need fewer

  • @laylonbaucom5977
    @laylonbaucom5977 Před měsícem +1

    Karrablast with a split evolution into Pinsir and Heracross

  • @LeUmoq
    @LeUmoq Před 3 měsíci

    i just need to now what the intro music is, I recognise it and can’t ever place where it’s from

  • @HoennMaster
    @HoennMaster Před 4 měsíci +1

    It’s been how many years now and despite hinting at it numerous times Game Freak still hasn’t made Tauros and Miltank related. 😑

  • @Universeofmany
    @Universeofmany Před 4 měsíci

    For Ducklett, they could have made it a Pre-evo for Psyduck and have Swanna be a branched evo via the Dawn Stone.

  • @luiszx1385
    @luiszx1385 Před 4 měsíci +4

    And also back then during the advanced and battle frontier series during oke of the trainers choices they literally said that arbok evolve into serviper and question is that image with that woman and the golduck from the new horizon anime the one at the 3:03 minute mark in the video?

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci

      Haha I forgot about the anime lying about Arbok evolving into it! Poor kids must have been so confused...
      As for the other question I'm not fully sure where it's from.

    • @luiszx1385
      @luiszx1385 Před 4 měsíci

      @@emperorcubone yea they did and also your not sure it's your video

    • @nickdentoom1173
      @nickdentoom1173 Před 4 měsíci +1

      tbh, back in the day Pokemon made many mistakes
      They said Furret was a Ground type for example.

    • @luiszx1385
      @luiszx1385 Před 4 měsíci

      @@nickdentoom1173 yes very true and yea I remember that back then

    • @dataexpunged4784
      @dataexpunged4784 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@luiszx1385Don't forget that they kept saying that Psychic was weak to Ghost in Gen 1, and then proceeded to screw up the coding so bad that the opposite occurred and Psychic was IMMUNE to it instead

  • @XanderMander006
    @XanderMander006 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I would love to see Ledian get an evolution. It deserves it honestly.

  • @SonicMeters
    @SonicMeters Před 4 měsíci +2

    My Secret Pokémon relatives is klawf and Crustle they’re both rock type Crabs to I know one of them is a hermit crab but they’re both crabs just add the bug typing to klawf

    • @Watch-0w1
      @Watch-0w1 Před 4 měsíci

      As much I like the connection, I feel it takes away from crustle theme.
      Maybe if klawf is redesign to make his upper shell look like a landmass or mountain

  • @PolyPumpkin
    @PolyPumpkin Před 4 měsíci +3

    I think wingull instead of psyduck would work better

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci +1

      I mean it's the same type, but Seagull to Swan doesn't really fit the children's story like Duckling to Swan does...

    • @Watch-0w1
      @Watch-0w1 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Both are great choice

    • @PolyPumpkin
      @PolyPumpkin Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@emperorcubone true...

  • @JesusMartinez-rr2ry
    @JesusMartinez-rr2ry Před 4 měsíci +1

    It is also worth mentioning the possibility of Zangoose being an evolution of Gumshoos, to further go with the theme of its rivalry with Seviper. I also wish that Houndoom would get an evolution in the Kalos region, so the opportunity to be 666 I the Pokédex wouldn't be wasted on a freaking butterfly.

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci

      But at least the butterfly comes in all sorts of pretty colors!

  • @mjvdg4194
    @mjvdg4194 Před 4 měsíci +1

    On Houndoom; perhaps this is a product of me being 7 when gen 2 came out but I always intrinsically linked Houndour and Growlithe in almost every way. My thought was that they lived in the same grass, with Growlithe at day and Houndour at night (I wasn’t allowed to play at night so couldn’t test it)
    I always thought it’d be cool to have them be a kind of Lycanroc situation or else a Pancham situation, where Houndour is just a Growlithe who grew up dark. Then Houndoom/Arcanine are them fully realising their paths.

  • @xdragovian2655
    @xdragovian2655 Před 3 měsíci

    Not gonna lie, when you mentioned Swanna, I thought you were going to suggest a branched Wingull evolution.

  • @davwigglesworth
    @davwigglesworth Před 4 měsíci +1

    1:31 Or Poison/Steel
    6:57 Gallade and Armarouge are both Psychic-types

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci

      That would be cool too! And we would've gotten it a lot sooner than Gen 9!

  • @JoseF420
    @JoseF420 Před 4 měsíci +1

    What baffles me is that a 110 stat is wasted on Ledian. It has a pathetic 35 attack stat and its only decent stat beyond SpD is an 85 speed. Its ability is also wasted given how weak it is.
    I would swap its Attack and SpD stats to at least try to make it a somewhat fast glass-cannon. I mean, with only 55 HP it doesn't matter if its defenses are 35 or 110, it will go down in one hit.

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Don't forget the Iron Fist ability that makes it an even bigger insult!

  • @ToaCody1
    @ToaCody1 Před 4 měsíci

    It's been an assertion of mine for a while that Comfey is actually directly related to Klefki and the similarities it shares with Flabébé are the result of convergent evolution.

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci

      Klefki absolutely is linked to Comfey somehow, I agree!

  • @facelessnameless
    @facelessnameless Před 4 měsíci +2

    Already waiting for part 2 👀

  • @matthewbooth8487
    @matthewbooth8487 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Oh, that's a nice map at the beginning. Anyone recognise where it's from?

  • @thealientree3821
    @thealientree3821 Před 4 měsíci +1

    If Seviper would be from Ekans, then perhaps Zangoose could be from Yungoos.

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci +1

      That could be funny! Yungoos isn't from Alola after all, so maybe it could be from where Zangoose is?

  • @jpcsdutra
    @jpcsdutra Před 4 měsíci +4

    Since the reveal, I've always figured Cramorant would have been better as a regional evolution for Wingull. If you invert the white and blue on it you're already there. If you give the line eye, it's perfect.

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci

      I said something like this in a video not long ago! Cramorant definitely seems related to the Wingull line...

  • @svodkosci
    @svodkosci Před 4 měsíci +1

    I really dont get how ppl think seviper was be an arbok evo, it would be such a downgrade

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci

      What makes it so much worse in your eyes?

    • @svodkosci
      @svodkosci Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@emperorcubone the progression from regular snake to cobra with a huge decorated crest back to regular basic snake would be so disappointing

    • @Watch-0w1
      @Watch-0w1 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@svodkosciis a tiger less cooler than a lion? A tiger can beat a lion .
      How I see it arbok is defensive, while serviper is offensive

    • @creature6715
      @creature6715 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@svodkosci"regular basic snake" it has a knife on its tail

    • @svodkosci
      @svodkosci Před 3 měsíci

      @@creature6715 wow such a crazy design, very brave

  • @Watch-0w1
    @Watch-0w1 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Great video and i agree with all the choices.
    I alway argue to make less new pokemon line and just improve the one we have withregional, co-evo, or just plain evolution

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci +2

      Well, I disagree that we shouldn't make NEW Pokemon, but I don't think anyone would complain if we had 3-12 relatives of past Pokemon crop up in any new regions, especially the ones that need it, (like Sunflora!)

    • @Watch-0w1
      @Watch-0w1 Před 4 měsíci

      I mean if we going to get more crappy Pokemon like flamingo just to make claim they release 1k pkm. Rather get alternative skin for pkm with great designs and playstyle

  • @dev655con
    @dev655con Před 4 měsíci

    for Ledyba, hear me out. They Make Orbeetle an Evo of Ledyba, and Gmax and evo from there. Ledian gets a Bug/Fighting third stage.

  • @connoravery5692
    @connoravery5692 Před 4 měsíci

    4:47 I literally thought dondozo was a wishcash evo when I first saw it

  • @blakdeth
    @blakdeth Před 4 měsíci +1

    Despite its name, I don't think psyduck is actually a duck. It's wide bill and little hands make it look much more like a duck-billed platypus to me. Psyduck's bill is much more duck like but it still has hands and not wings.

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci

      All those non-duck things come from being based on a rubber duck toy, no a platypus. Otherwise it'd have a beaver tail as well...

    • @blakdeth
      @blakdeth Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@emperorcubone Their tails don't really look like duck tails either. Ducks have really small tails composed of just a few feathers. You can't even see them unless their flying really. And with golduck's rather long tail it's clear their tails are a part of their body, like a mammal or a reptile. Probably just gen 1 being gen 1, so I don't think it can be used for argue for either side.

  • @gdkey8025
    @gdkey8025 Před 4 měsíci +1

    have gamefreak ever hinted that Pokemon are distantly related to others? (ie like regional variants etc)

  • @jazzercise300
    @jazzercise300 Před 4 měsíci

    I loved wishcash growing up. Used it in my 2nd ever ruby playthrough as a kid. Swampert, quagsire and gastrodon all overshadowed it over the years.

  • @kylespevak6781
    @kylespevak6781 Před 4 měsíci

    1:37 What? Why? Every gen has a basic bird and mammal but no one linked that back?

  • @PonytaBestShiny
    @PonytaBestShiny Před 4 měsíci +4

    7:31 The entire Pawmot line 😅😬

  • @kylespevak6781
    @kylespevak6781 Před 4 měsíci

    Mega Houndoom as an evo is the first thing i agree with. Reminds me of Marowack

  • @RAJKevis
    @RAJKevis Před 4 měsíci +2

    Hot take, Serviper and Zangoose should have a trade with each other evolution shelmet style.

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Interesting! What would they evolve into?

    • @RAJKevis
      @RAJKevis Před 4 měsíci

      @@emperorcubone Still working on the details :)

    • @christiancinnabars1402
      @christiancinnabars1402 Před 4 měsíci

      A larger mongoose with a blade arm would be the obvious evolution for Zangoose. But I'm not quite sure what Seviper would turn into. Maybe it grows longer, gains small arms with long claws, and becomes a sort of lindworm-like creature?

    • @jaschabull2365
      @jaschabull2365 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Would they both become ghost types, having slaughtered each other during the trade? ;P

    • @RAJKevis
      @RAJKevis Před 4 měsíci

      @@jaschabull2365 I want to hate ot but I dont

  • @DanDaFreakinMan
    @DanDaFreakinMan Před 4 měsíci

    Sir Psyduck is a platypus. It only got the duck in its name because of its duck-like bill.

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci

      I think it would make more sense to say that the only Platypus thing about the duck is its bill. Psyduck is a classic rubber duck; it doesn't even have a beaver tail, so how is it a platypus?

    • @DanDaFreakinMan
      @DanDaFreakinMan Před 4 měsíci

      @@emperorcubone nor does it have a duck tail nor wings. Overall the proportion is more similar to a platypus. Also I was half-wrong as well. The Psyduck line also draw influence from the Kappa, a Japanese yokai.

  • @jmurray1110
    @jmurray1110 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Not sure u agree with ladian sure they’re both ladybirds but one has a physical design focus (even if the stats dispute it) and the other is obviously psychic focused
    I do want ledian to evolve but it should fit the theme more and have them go from side kick to main hero, go full super sentai and add the fighting type
    Also since it’s already the 5 star Pokémon a fun little design space could be basing them off the golf ninja steel ranger and give them a cowboy motif

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci

      I see what you mean, but that wouldn't be the first design split, like Kirlia to Gallade who is far more physically focused...

  • @lucasmartin9069
    @lucasmartin9069 Před 4 měsíci

    Did anyone else press this video for some crab action only to be disappointed when not a single crab Pokemon was mentioned? No? Just me? Ok...

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci +1

      The thumbnail can usually be considered an honorable mention of sorts.

  • @34rol
    @34rol Před 4 měsíci

    No one ever expects the butterfly

  • @rayyaninspookymonth1630
    @rayyaninspookymonth1630 Před 4 měsíci

    You do know that Seviper is in the fluctuating exp group while Ekans is not right?

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci

      That's not a big deal; egg groups are no strangers to shifting between generations, so we could change that whenever...

  • @SilverSonic72
    @SilverSonic72 Před 4 měsíci

    I completely agree with the Mega Houndoom thing, but the Ledian to Orbeetle arguement makes no sense beyond "ladybug becomes bigger ladybug". There is no thematic basis to it at all. How would Ledian have anything to do with psychic power when Orbeetle is all about that? Also, Blipbug does make sense as the first stage, but thematically instead of physically. It's a nerdy kid that becomes a researcher that becomes a mad scientist.

  • @thekakeking9400
    @thekakeking9400 Před 4 měsíci

    Orbeetle's line is a based off of the Ladybug life cycle.

  • @saul-goodman
    @saul-goodman Před 4 měsíci

    There were new evolutions in Hoenn. I can think of some pre-evolutions at least; that counts.

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci

      I specifically spoke to the actual evolutions, there were in fact some babies but nothing new to take other Pokemon forward like in Sinnoh, Paldea, etc...

  • @justinterry2926
    @justinterry2926 Před 10 dny

    The point of ducklet is its not a duck
    Its a swan

  • @durk5331
    @durk5331 Před 4 měsíci

    Love the ideas of Dondozo & Mega Houndoom having should've been evos

  • @Hachishaku-Sama
    @Hachishaku-Sama Před 2 měsíci

    Psyduck to Swanna?? Just because it has “duck” in its name doesn’t mean that Psyduck is a bird Pokémon ;-;

  • @wanderer6123
    @wanderer6123 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Make mega Houndoom the 3rd stage and call it "Houndred"

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci +1

      I like it; I was trying to work "Demon" in their somehow but yours flows better...

  • @pizzakoe
    @pizzakoe Před 4 měsíci +2

    Luvdisc>alomamola, tauros>bouffelant

    • @Watch-0w1
      @Watch-0w1 Před 4 měsíci

      Bouffelant is the awkward teenage phase of tauro

  • @arininquotes8396
    @arininquotes8396 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Hear me out: Instead of tying Orbeetle and Ledian together, we get a fighting/bug (or fighting/flying) type evolution as a kind of Kleavor equivalent whenever Legends Johto comes out

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci +2

      Well if we're giving it a Kleavor equivalent we should at least go all out and give it a Scizor too!

    • @elemomnialpha
      @elemomnialpha Před 3 měsíci

      You mean Legends Unova
      Because a Johto pokemon getting a new Johto evolution doesn't make sense
      And because of that no Sinnoh pokemon got new forms in Arceus

    • @arininquotes8396
      @arininquotes8396 Před 3 měsíci

      @@elemomnialpha Based on the pattern, yeah, you're right, although I think it's weird that no Sinnoh mons got a Hisuian form. It actually makes more sense: The creatures who live there in present day ARE the ones who adapted from their historical counterparts who wouldn't have survived otherwise.
      Regardless, I think I said Legends Johto because at the time I just assumed we'd get that before Legends Unova, although at this point I really don't know.

  • @madnessarcade7447
    @madnessarcade7447 Před 3 měsíci

    That’s not comfey’s tail it’s just carrying it

  • @kylespevak6781
    @kylespevak6781 Před 4 měsíci

    Why can't we have separate species? Idk why you want to tie things together

  • @kylespevak6781
    @kylespevak6781 Před 4 měsíci

    4:33 Wishcash is highly respected as a tank, what?

  • @hessiankyojin
    @hessiankyojin Před 4 měsíci

    RIP Ducklett

  • @darktemplar446
    @darktemplar446 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I really really dislike the psyducj evolving into Swana idea. Im not even sure why i dislike the idea. But i like Swana and i like that its has its own identity. Making it a psyduck evo takes that away in my opinion.

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci

      I don't think it does; I mean Froslass has their own identity, but I guess I can see what you mean...

  • @torterratortellini6641
    @torterratortellini6641 Před 4 měsíci

    I hate mega Sableye because it means that we will never get a real evolution for it.

  • @Gen3Hater
    @Gen3Hater Před 15 dny

    gen 3 was the original gen 1 and and 2 remake design wise. pretty much every pokemon in this generation is a remake or a gen 1/2 pokemon and seviper is just that. its a remake of arbock which is why it dosent need to be part of a branch evolution. gen v was the second attemp of remaking pokemons. besides. swansa and golduck are based of different animals. golducks is obviously and duck while swana is a swan.

  • @RJS2003
    @RJS2003 Před 4 měsíci

    Personally if Whiscash got an evolution I want it to not even be a catfish at all, why should it still be one? Barboach isn't a catfish. I feel it would be much better for them to stay consistent with their inconsistencies.
    Plus there's a whole lot of smaller, more subtle differences between Whiscash and Dondozo that make it abundantly obvious it just doesn't belong. If Dondozo is lacking that signature blue fin with the three black dots then why bother?

  • @blakie6136
    @blakie6136 Před 4 měsíci

    this was posted at 6 am for me, why so early Mr.Cubone

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci

      Well there are other time zones out there...

  • @SeftoK
    @SeftoK Před 4 měsíci

    All regional bird pokemon should be branched evolutions of Pidgey

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci

      I don't know about ALL; I think an owl is different enough for Hoothoot, and Rookidee being Pure Flying warrants its own spot, but maybe the rest...

  • @alonesmg241
    @alonesmg241 Před 4 měsíci

    I really hope if we get a new legends jhoto game it gives us a new ledian and sunflora evolution

  • @NuncleG
    @NuncleG Před 4 měsíci

    I've never liked that Delcatty isn't the Normal type Eeveelution.

    • @lipika2841
      @lipika2841 Před 4 měsíci +2

      I'd like to have a better design for normal eeveelution & not Delcatty.

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci

      Hmm, I could see it as similar to the Eeveelutions. I don't know if it would fit, but I'd believe it if it were...

  • @jaschabull2365
    @jaschabull2365 Před 4 měsíci

    To be fair about seviper, snakes are basically the first animals that come to mind when one thinks of venom, and there are definitely more than one species of venomous snake, so it doesn't seem too farfetched to have more than one line of venomous snake pokémon. Though I guess its sharing a colour scheme with ekans doesn't help making it comparable to that line, not to mention its being given to Jessie, which may or may not have been misinterpreted by some 4kids intern as her arbok evolving, hence that mistaken Trainer's Choice segment.
    I find swanna a bit hard to connect to psyduck due to their not sharing much features apart from resembling waterfowl. Plus, while yes there were duck pokémon before ducklett, there weren't duck pokémon that could fly and swim like an actual duck, which is something that remains unique to ducklett, so I prefer it and swanna being their own line.
    Dondozo... actually just might have worked as an evolved form of whiscash. And it might have been neat to bring back the friend-induced evolution that mantyke had, but this time making it a cross-regional evolution. I don't mind its being a one-off, though, because, again, if there can be more than one species of actual catfish, there can be more than one species of catfish pokémon.
    As for ledian, as pointed out before, there's more than one species of ladybird, and the five-spot and seven-spot ladybirds are different species. Not to mention, it's kind of neat how orbeetle's weakness to both bug and flying puts it at a major type disadvantage to ledian, which reflects real-life Japanese ladybirds being a serious problem for English ladybirds, which are being outcompeted by them. On the other hand, I'd be perfectly glad if blipbug didn't evolve into a ladybird, and the first bug/psychic pokémon could be based on a completely unused sort of insect, as I kind of found making it another ladybird was a bit of a weak debut for a new type combination.

    • @Compucles
      @Compucles Před 4 měsíci

      What's with these ladybirds? They're called *ladyBUGS.* I don't see any Miraculous of the Ladybird to pair up with the Miraculous of the Black Cat, do you?

    • @jaschabull2365
      @jaschabull2365 Před 4 měsíci

      @@Compucles
      Ladybird is short for "ladybird beetle", which is more common outside the U. S. Ladybug is more of a U. S. term.

  • @keatonarcher1071
    @keatonarcher1071 Před 4 měsíci

    Psyduck and swanna doesn’t rlly make sense since psyduck isnt a duck its a platypus

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci

      I have no clue how this lie has become so popular, but Psyduck is absolutely based on a classic rubber duck that kids would play with in the bath. That's where any discrepancies come from like the body shape or "hands," I just really want to know where this idea came from all of a sudden...

  • @joshualantz8404
    @joshualantz8404 Před 9 dny

    Alolan Marowak into Kangaskhan

  • @toumabyakuya
    @toumabyakuya Před 4 měsíci

    Man, a good amount of the examples here either miss the entire idea GF had with the evolutionary line, sounds more fitting in Digimon than in Pokemon or both.

  • @staceymata2049
    @staceymata2049 Před 4 měsíci

    Luvdisc to alomamola do i need to say more

  • @thepsychobear2362
    @thepsychobear2362 Před 4 měsíci

    Blipbug is based on ladybug larvae.

  • @gabrielox5110
    @gabrielox5110 Před 4 měsíci

    i would like to see a branching evolution of cacnea into cacturne or maractus

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci

      I could buy that; although Maractus might need a secondary typing to justify why you would pick it over the Dark type Cacturne...

    • @gabrielox5110
      @gabrielox5110 Před 4 měsíci

      @@emperorcubone Yeah but... Bellossom exists, so I dont find it so unlikely

  • @Wailerman
    @Wailerman Před 4 měsíci

    the Nidoclan

  • @tyrantneptune3202
    @tyrantneptune3202 Před 4 měsíci

    Honestly, I don't think Tauros should evolve into Bouffalant. I mean, Tauros is already the better one in battle

  • @awesomeschwab
    @awesomeschwab Před 4 měsíci

    Blipbug, Dottler, and Orbeetle are the larval, pupa, and adult stages of a ladybug. How is that less believable than a ladybug, ladybug, and ladybug evolution?? 🤣🤣🤣

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci

      Maybe cause Blipbug doesn't look like a larval ladybug at all, and has nothing to hint at that in its name or design...

    • @awesomeschwab
      @awesomeschwab Před 4 měsíci

      @@emperorcubone I’m just gonna defer to Lockstin on this one 🤣 czcams.com/video/s2reA0xZggE/video.htmlsi=PYezmdKHiM7daWaR

  • @Big-Image
    @Big-Image Před 4 měsíci

    I think Raichu should evolve from Dedenne instead of Pikachu. Raichu's appearance shares so many similarities to Dedenne that it could work as an evolution.

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci

      You know, they do actually look a lot alike!

  • @noodlesandeggs1512
    @noodlesandeggs1512 Před 4 měsíci

    I think most of these Pokémon need buffs instead of evolutions. Ledian could work with Huge Power just like Azumarill or Iron Fist with a decent attack buff. Houndoom I also feel the same since I don’t know why it has the Early Bird ability. Competitive of Berserk would be a much better fit.

    • @Compucles
      @Compucles Před 4 měsíci

      The Huge Power Ability is meant for rabbit-based Pokémon.

    • @noodlesandeggs1512
      @noodlesandeggs1512 Před 4 měsíci

      @@Compucles Mega Mawile?

  • @DannyViper666
    @DannyViper666 Před 4 měsíci

    I think mega mawile and bannete are the most obvious options

  • @RayquazaFan001
    @RayquazaFan001 Před 4 měsíci

    I think ledian and dondozo is perfect

  • @rockowlgamer631
    @rockowlgamer631 Před 4 měsíci

    Wish Mawile and sableye would've kept their Megas as proper evolutions.

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci

      Yeah, even if they don't really look like traditional evolutions, it would still work if they each had one because they're already counterparts...

  • @UltimateFunBilly
    @UltimateFunBilly Před 4 měsíci

    Doesnt help that the anime made the same mistake for the first one

  • @minhos99
    @minhos99 Před 4 měsíci

    Luvdisc to Alomomola

  • @KingXeonMyroku
    @KingXeonMyroku Před 4 měsíci

    If they actually went back and gave Pokémon’s that had Mega’s or Gigantimax forms an evolution, I’d be so happy. They have done it for both Applin and Durladon by giving them new evolutions, so why not do the same for future games. Even having ancient evolutions that were once lost like in Legends Arceus being apparent (while some are not obtainable in Scarlet/Violet like Wyrdeer, Ursaluna, and Kleavor). GameFreak has the potential to change the script and give some of these Pokemon new evolutions or pre-evolutions. May even say some of the Pokemon we had in the past were actually convergent of existing Pokemon before it became a thing. Like Buffulant and Alolamola. It would make up for all the Gen 5 Pokemon being carbon based copies of other Pokemon. (Still pining for pre-evolutions that would link up some Pokemon) Heck for Gen 6 I thought Treevorant was an evolution of Sudowoodo because we haven’t had any other tree like Pokemon aside from Snover and I guess Eggexcutor. Was a bit disappointed to see it wasn’t but how cool would it be if it was?

  • @user-rt6ko8wf2e
    @user-rt6ko8wf2e Před 4 měsíci

    Id rather see Swanna as branch evo of Wingull

  • @gamingwithzack4503
    @gamingwithzack4503 Před 4 měsíci

    I thought this was going to be about Pokemon taxonomy, instead I got mad ramblings about how Pokemon with unrelated origins and basic resemblances should evolve from one another...
    Still, interesting ideas, I thought the Megas made the most sense, and all the other Pokemon here I'd rather get brand new evolutions instead of newer ideas being forced to work for older Pokemon they weren't designed to work with.
    I don't hate this idea, I just think there's better ways to pull things off than what is presented here to give forgotten Pokemon attention, and Gamefreak has been doing it since the second generation. I also think just mentioning Pokemon are related in dex entries is a good way to make new related Pokemon too... I'd just like it if a Scorpion wasn't said to be related to a Millipede.

  • @nathanblackburn1193
    @nathanblackburn1193 Před 4 měsíci

    That image claiming Venonat should evolve into Butterfree and Caterpie should evolve into Venomoth really irritates me because since when did caterpillars have look like their butterfly form? Like Wurmple doesn't look anything like Dustox yet nobody is out making theories about how "Dustox was supposed to have a different first stage because it looks so different from Wurmple"
    Anyway, there are many many species of venomous snakes and Arbok only represents cobras so I see no problem with Seviper being another poison type snake

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Před 4 měsíci

      It's fine to have Poison snakes, it was just the fact that it was PURE Poison. It could be dual typed with something else, like how they didn't just make another plain pure Water turtle, they added Rock...

    • @jaschabull2365
      @jaschabull2365 Před 4 měsíci

      @@emperorcubone
      Carracosta isn't even the only rock/water type turtle now, though.
      As for butterfree, I don't think the fact that it doesn't look like caterpie is the issue so much as the fact that it has so many features that are a one-to-one with venonat. It's hard to look at those two and see them as completely unrelated.

  • @monke7919
    @monke7919 Před 4 měsíci

    i dont think orbeetle should evolve from ledian, its evolutionary line tells a story about a nerd tired of being bullied who turns to villainy, the desgine mixes a lady bug a ufo a radar and a japanese
    toy called a radarbug wich is a ladybug mixed with a radar,
    also blipbug into Dottler into orbeetle actully makes sense because like most bugs ladybugs do have a larva and pupa stage so ledybuh and ledian are actully inaccurate,
    also blipbug is radar blips plus bug and dotlerr is the doppler effect combined with dot so radars are a recurring theme in the line,
    if it stays the same its nerd becomes scientist becomes mad scientist due to bullying if it changes it becomes hero arbatrally becomes mad scientist for no aperant reason and suddenly they like radars now, i think it should be connected but not as the same line but rather instead as rivals a superhero ladybug and a villian ladybug, also orbeetles line are based specifically on the 7 spot ladybird wich is common in brittian hence it being a galar pokemon. also i think mega houndoom would need adjustments before becoming a full evolution because right now its just angrier with more armor so its face or body should probably change more or it would end up as another palafin situatiuon with its evouliton only gaining 1 major detail

    • @monke7919
      @monke7919 Před 4 měsíci

      credit to Lockstin & Gnoggin for this information

  • @PHiLLy2c
    @PHiLLy2c Před 4 měsíci +1

    Nahh dondozo and wishcash? I guess its your video

  • @nicolassanabria3219
    @nicolassanabria3219 Před 4 měsíci

    664 Scatterbug
    665 Spewpa
    666 HOUNDEVIL LORD OF HELL
    667 Vivillion I guess