I'am a New Zealander.,My first family arrived here in 1843,the next 1873,my grandchildren are 5th generation Kiwis.We are one NZ.Lets keep it that way.
The irony is is that Celts were living in NZ thousands of years before Māori arrived, but it’s been completely covered up by government and private interest groups to keep the Māori land ownership narrative afloat.
Our family arrived in Petone in 1839. Before any Treaty was signed. Not sure what that means in terms of our NZ status but I have always understood we are one people, one nation. I hope it remains that way.
Thanks for hosting Buddy Mikaera, he reminds that Maori politics is not a complete monolith and that there is a diversity of voices within the community.
I also agree, although, IMO, it's more nuanced. The word 'Māori', as a collective noun, only came into use (by the Pakeha) during the 1940s, after the Treaty of Waitangi was signed. The reason Pakeha can't solve Māori issues is because Māori are tribal by their very nature and DON'T speak with one voice. Prior to the Treaty of Waitangi, Iwi and Hapu were nation states until themselves. These separate Māori nations gave up their nationhoods under the Treaty of Waitangi to become one nation with the Pakeha. That's why there are 540 Chiefs as signatories to the Treaty. Pakeha can't solve 'Māori issues' because Māori are still holding tribal grudges from at least two centuries ago. It's this misunderstanding by Pakeha, including those self-styled 'righteous Pakeha' in our Goverment, that causes Pakeha to continually look for ways, often involving money, to fix what is an unfixable problem from a Māori perspective. Unfortunately, from at least the 1970s, there have been a succession of Māori and non-Māori 'leaders' and hangers-ons who've seen the New Zealand government as a "soft touch". These people are more than happy to foment division and feed from the trough of taxpayer-funded handouts, which are now into the multi-billions of dollars. New Zealand's Government needs to stop trying to fix Māori problems. Our Government needs to stop being a pushover and start treating all Māori and Pakeha as NEW ZEALANDERS, with the same rights and obligations. Pakeha can't, and shouldn't, try to fix the wrongs Māori tribes and Hapu did to each other two centuries ago during the Maori tribal wars of 1807 - 1845.
Me too; Maori male. A divided country always leads to strife and even war. Instead, we should all work together for the betterment of everyone here; like I heard Winston say the other day. But what do I know; I'm just a kid 😅
Well Winston runs with his voter base so he can get back into power - he's also put his own race down - so his blue rise brigade can hear his 'good'' news - he appeases them all the time
@@ngahuiadixon8930far out is National making you work for your benefit,kicked you out of your HNZ house & will be taking your hubbys gang patch off him? 😴
That party needs to be disbanded. I’m not impressed with this current government that keeps sitting on their hands for some reason. I keep seeing the picture of Luxton looking out the window during the Covid protest. No one came to speak to them accept Winston.
Because it's part of a managed dialectic, political theater that they're all in on & playing their part Net out come is always division, hostility & demoralization of all NZers along with losing more of our rights
Yep I'm no labour fan but watching Luxon in an empty field in the Wairarapa wearing a mask whilst doing an interview told me everything I need to know about him. All traitors to the settlers are government.
Because in an open and free society people have the right to engage in political idiocy. Given that you juxtapose disbanding the party with the government supposedly sitting on its hands, would it seems to me indicate that this is something you think the government should do.They don't have the power, that you want them to have such power makes me very glad your political influence is limited to a vote. I for one would not put you in charge of a sheep dip.
Luxon's response to all this has been very disappointing though not unexpected. He needs to get some guts and call this all out for what it is and a breach of their oath to Parliament.
@@djhemirukahemisphere8893 there is over thirty and reportedly closer to seventy billion dollars in Iwi hands, if you want what you think is rightfully yours you should maybe go talk to Iwi leaders about where all that money is and who's actually benefiting because it sure isn't any Maori I personally know.
@@djhemirukahemisphere8893 Wait - you've already been paid out for all the land etc - (well that elitist bunch of thieves and liars has - not sure if you're a part of them). Millions and millions of dollars of TAX PAYERS money - including from those Maori who are hardworking and just want to get on with life - AND EARN THEIR WAY - like my hubby - and now you want the land back too. Greedy, divisive and dishonest.
Im not against Pati Maori like not against any Party but I blame National they started this of Maori you only have to listen. SPEAKER of house has no control, As Labour speaks hes ripping them but National open format. NZ is downsize already so wasted money paying these in Parliament not helping our country tearing to pieces. 1000s lost jobs, Towns empty, Hospitals struggling all you lot thrashing Maori You National suppose to be Ringawera for NZ heck no maumau te moni. saying National should be hothands waste our money, now. more racisim coming from your domain,.
I love our Kiwi and Maori culture, it's what makes us uniquely New Zealand. And as New Zealanders, we are all privileged to live in this first world country built on the backs of all our tupuna/ancestors within a colonial system. A system that provides free education, healthcare, welfare and superannuation. If you were born in India, none of these are provided. A system that has tried for decades to right the wrongs of our colonial forebears with land settlements, Marae upgrades, access to tertiary education, free alchohol drug and mental health facilities run by Maori for Maori. Maori health providers are also funded by tax payers. When will Maori realize that despite a history of some bad behavior on the part of pakeha, we love you. You are inherently connected to our identity. We don't want discord, we want peace, unity and the space for all cultures to express their unique beauty. Just a thought.
These things you name were mainly under a socialist Labour govt. A party with a heart - Helping the less fortunate and NOT ONLY Maori which many seem to think - its great to know that some like you love us - there are organisational groups though who want to make profit out of everything and so for many of us (including nonMaori I would think) those aspects of life get in the way - rules for everything which sometimes seems unfair - you may not see it because. you belong to the majority - like many minorities throughout the world the pattern is the same - eg. rates on our own land we have inherited from ancestors - and without improvements RATES still have to be paid - I ask FOR WHAT - another example - Maori should look after themselves with the Claims payments - Those payments which are petty compared to the land value taken should rightfully be paid back - did you know that some of the confiscated land in Tauranga where I come from was sold to settlers - land by theft through the might of the musket, and later the pen - so until we are fairly listened to there will be a group like the Maori Party (some aspects of their policies which I don't accept I might add) who will speak out
@@ngahuiadixon8930 Thanks for your perspective Ngahuia. Just to clarify, my Grandfather is Maori. The majority I belong to is humanity, as do you. I wish you well.
@ngahuiadixon8930 minorities through history? Like the pakeha, who make up less then 10% of the earths population but own less then 2% of their indigenous lands?
It’s all Tamahire’s plan. He knows he’s facing prosecution for his misuse of funds, electorate fraud, mismanagement, dishonesty etc. He knows his Māori Party has no traction in parliament and they aren’t going to deliver him any rewards. So plan B A separate parliament where he will claim immunity from prosecution. That parliament would be headed by the Maori party which he is head of. Essentially making him the top dog of their utopia. He likes to get his own way and will not go down without a fight. He’ll use the race card even after it’s maxed out. He’ll be busy now garnering support from various iwi groups to criminal gangs . Corner him and he’ll go gung-ho.
All of us are from settlers. Almost all of us are mixed from Oceania and the early Euro settlers. We do need to slow down on immigrants though, they send earnings out of the country, get our passports and dash off to greener grasses overseas. Meanwhile our young have lost hope in buying a home and starting families with Kiwi children, that we desperately need, unless their parents can pay. Real Kiwis only have one country we call home and always return to our families here if we do an OE. Its the immigrants leaving by the thousands, not us. Stop investing in this endless cycle and start supporting all Kiwis, part Maori and Non Maori.
te patty love the colonialist fruits... look at how they embrace nice houses, nice cars, nice clothes, air travel, all expenses paid travel and the money... love the free money
Much of it paid from their own pockets - called tax CHOPPER - if you have a brain - no different from the JUNKETS other white non-Politicians go on under the guide of trade missions - eg farmers to sell products - what's the difference - oh I forgot - one lot are white the other 'coloured'
Separate Maori Parliament? Sure. All you would need is the abrogation of Article One of the Treaty. The only problem with that might be the cancellation of Article Three.
@ngahuiadixon8930 as if every Maori living in NZ pays taxes lol. The rich pay the lions share of taxes in NZ, and most of the Maori community is too young to pay taxes.
This time feels different. The Maori party seem to have the backing of the UN (UNDRIP). Wouldn't surprise me if they've been through training with the UN & WEF. Same with the MSM too.
Jeez, he's not sounding Maori enough for the Cow Patty Party or Labour for that matter.Good interview Sean finally a senior Maori figure talking sense, let's hope a lot more of them come out in an effort to stop the horrible racist nonsense that is going on in our lovely little country.
Buddy doesn't speak for many of us - but If National stop getting Atlas Network links to run our country, control the visual media e.g. TVv - maybe we'll get unity - until then do we want overseas interests running our country with little say in it - do we want as Maori to have some say - of course 0 and don't tell me we can get in through voting - some ''potatoe Maori' - brown on the outside white inside can get in - Not those who believe we have something worthwhile to contribute - e.g. Maori economy - worth a lot which is helping many Kiwis including non-Maori - so until the Westminster system decides to share power why should we bow down - and people like Sean obviously get those who will have a view similar to his - don't need a brain to work that out - the ones who will agree with him - or to make a point he will reconfigure to suit his right-wing agenda
We need to move forward. To remain loyal members of the commonwealth- but to find out how the nation as a whole- can express a sense of sovereignty. To embrace our own identity here...
I'm really glad this conversation happened, it's too easy to get caught up in the headlines, specially when it's been made out that ALL Maori think this way by the MSM. I personally think it would be hilarious to watch Te Pati Maori try and start their own Government and watch as they figure out how complicated it actually is and they don't know what they are doing.
I’m just so tired of the us and them mentality. Most maori are now less than 50% so it’s time these Te Part maori party move on and did something for the betterment of New Zealand instead of creating racism and ill feeling.
Ah yes, if they didn't have double standards they'd have none at all. Personally I'd love to have a separate parliament provided they have a separate taxation system so we don't have to keep subsidising these lunatics.
At last, it's encouraging to see Maori coming out not in support of TPM. I liked Buddy's analogy that TPM doesn't represent all Maori any more than David Seymour represents all non-Maori. Nor does any single Party! Fortunately, the adults in parliament can cope with differences of opinion, without having to threaten to tear the place apart. The solution is to dissolve the Maori electorates, as promised when MMP was being considered, which will help take the focus away from the separatism TPM that needs, to remain relevant. It'll fade away as other Maori realise there is more to be gained by all pulling in the same general direction.
of course the kingitanga is morbidly afraid of a separate Maori Parliament. his turangawaiwai gravy train will disappear in a brown puff of smoke under a maori parliament which will not be able to demand funds or anything else from the so called colonial oppressors any more thats for sure! hopefully theres a nationwide vote on it because the colonialists will be 100% behind it @@@!!
I think its high time a new maori party was formed that represents those sensible, responsible hard working maori that are prepared to honour Te Tiriti section 2 that ALL New Zealanders are equal.. I have 2 sons and a daughter and they are all part-maori,.. I want them to be proud of their maori heritage , not embarrassed by it ...
@@StGammon77 To be honest I don't look at is a founding document anyway ,.. more , just a contract... There has to be a better way for us ,when living in such a wonderful place as New Zealand.. I think the majority just want to get along .
@@ngahuiadixon8930 And use the education system, the justice system, the health system, all the public goods provided by taxes, including the parliament we already have. Want something else, then buy it for yourself.
Lots of talk that we can’t blame all Māori for the actions of the tpm . Does that mean we can stop blaming white folk for the actions of people who lived almost 200 years ago ?
Do you think misspelling 'Māori' helps your cause? Is it common for you to ridicule a race of people because that's the way they were born? You're part of the division bs.
Quite a history about the Maori - put the Inca's or the Aztecs to shame in degeneration. Outcast from the Cook Islands during the 13th century as weaker primitive Neolithic people by later waves of Polynesians (Maori were from the original wave of primitive Polynesians pushed right out across the Eastern Pacific by successive stronger more advanced groups arriving from the west). They were outcast on rafts and some floated to the North East Coast of NZ driven by the South Equatorial Current and were stranded for 500 years. The weaker were pushed down to the South Island or Chathams etc. So the South Island Maori (had their own language) were the weakest of the weak. They were captured and eaten as 'Slave flesh' by the northern Maori doing raids. (Well they all ate each other - 80% of Maori pre European were dark skinned easily fattened slaves farmed and eaten by a lighter skinned 'Ariki' thin wiry elite royal caste). So it was with some righteousness as well as British cunning that they armed the southern Maori who then with muskets launched a genocidal war on the north.. That plus measles & flu halved the Maori population and removed most of the elite. The British then liberated the slaves and outlawed cannibalism. The northern Maori fought with the British against the south bad west Maori 'rebels'. The Maori sued for peace and a treaty was signed that removed all sovereignty and made them subjects to the English crown where the English would protect them from each other. Land could only be sold to or via the Crown. Maori could live on their reservations with native custom but none did. The treaty of Waitangi is strikingly clear in that the Maori cede sovereignty completely and become citizens of Great Britain - all 3 clauses lock that in. Nothing in today's 'Maori' culture is authentic. The music - all European (Maoris did not have tonal music, the songs are missionary tunes or introduced - Poi dance is from Islands and Stick dance from old Malaya. The carvings and art - all European - Arabesques that was the fashion at the time. Original Maori had limited dash carving and no painting of objects. No written language - all the syntax & grammar plus vowel inflection is European. No technology - some lagoon canoes and wood or stone Neolithic tools. No food sources - like pigs or crops - they left that all behind, all they had was a weak inbred fox (now extinct), some rats and a weak dismal pacific yam. They ate out all the bird-life including 10 species of Moa and 46 other bird species, didn't know how to farm the sea as were island people and so they turned to societal cannibalism. Today - no full blood or half blood left. No genuine tradition and almost all are offspring of Maori slave females sold to white settlers for muskets or food. -So more fake than the 'Sioux' or 'Cherokee' or 'Crow' who had at least retained some genuineness about who they were and their history. -Everything you 'saw or experienced' is fake. A totally convected disneyfied tokenistic set of inventions fueled by a grievance culture of mixed-race imposters fetishing a false past bad history because it pays benefits. 'This Horrid Practice' - Professor Paul Moon, "A Savage Country" Professor Paul Moon 'Behind The Tattooed Face' - Heretaunga Pat Baker, 'Anthropology In The South Seas' - H D Skinner
CORRECTION - He is the Maori King - and. you don't have to be included if you are a Maori and believe otherwise - that's your view - many others acknowledge him as 'Maori King' - let each Maori decide whether he's a Maori King for them or otherwise - not for YOU to decide as you are doing here
@@ngahuiadixon8930 No is is *A* maori called King. he is not *THE* maori king. Unless you mean to suggest that no other maori is whakahihi enough to call themselves that, yes I would agree with that. For most of the tribes around the country, including mine, (and me personally) he is a whakamanamana irrelevance.
Remember it was the national John Key government that ceeded millions of public funded and managed conservation land to the modern regional tribal representatives. For example Waikaremoana. After which tribal radicals promptly burned down 50 conservation tramping fishing and hunting shelters, in spite? To decolinise the area. I discussed this with moari identifying university graduate professionals who stated "it's maori land they cam do what they want." My response was hypothermia is colour blind.
Mainstream media need to start focussing on paying the bills, that means covering both sides of the story, and covering them from the people's point of view not their bizarre woke lens
(Need to check that Rotorua Lot out too) Rawiri's crew i did my cencus 3 weeks later i get mail saying we see your maori ad on the general roll we would like you to change to maori roll ! I was like how did these people get my personal infomation ?
We have to go to the source of the discussion. At present we live in a democracy with a capitalist economy. The Maori party and their connected activists have no plan other than to destroy our society, that fact supported by the evidence that no county on earth has a successful alternative model. A confused mix of communism and tribal royalty is likely their only plan, but never discussed. Because they know all the alternatives have failed and legacy media will even ask the basic question, the Maori party cannot answer. Of course they will suggest real communism hasn’t been tried yet. Or what’s wrong with Maori royalty running New Zealand, while banging on about the evils of colonialism. Simply they are the malcontent loosers without a plan.
How about telling us how they intend on destroying society?? How about the CCP or the Peoples Republic of Chinas use of communism today as an example??
I really just want a safer community to live in. With out the bullying and blackmailing and extortion and crime. With hate crimes and. Fraud. It’s time to make. New Zealand safer. And to be honest. I surport the police and law enforcement. Only in life now. As I see this as tue way. To get a safer New Zealand 🇳🇿.
91% of voters didnt vote for Act so I guess thats true & the count was a million protestors walking with Te Pati which was unexpected ? very interesting indeed
I really love to weigh I. On this. 0:150:150:150:150:150:15 but I won’t. As I am a responsible citizen at present. But I did lisen. To the podcast. Thu
WEF UN Maori Pati. Sir Pita got a powhiri at te Marae UN in 2010 prior to selling a Maori voice to the UN without informing Maori. UN Indigenous Tenure Trap.
We always here "Maori want this" or "Maori want that" but you cannot talk for every person who identifies as Maori! No Eurokiwi politician ever say "Pakehs/New Zealanders want this or that, it is a very strange way to try to drag every Maori into the debate on their side. Say I want, our Party wants but don't push every free thinking Maori into these demands!
A Maori Parliament would never get off the ground due to the ego trip all the Tea Party Maori members are individually on and the clashes between them would be like restarting the Maori Wars.
I turned 60 this year, the generalizing/stereotyping of the Māori race is not new to me. It's become normalized to do this. Being 90% English, but automatically recorded as Māori, through government box ticking. Guess which side I will stand with??. Btw, why are we ticking ethnic boxes, when they're not even accurate??
6 Feb. 1840 maori chiefs ceded sovereignty to the crown and went on to sell 92% of New Zealand 🇳🇿. It's time to end co governance, it is divisive and a financial rort. Waititis rants make every thing else seem legit.
Tea Party have no credibility. To be taken seriously they must earn respect and credibility. What a cowboy-hatted clown show ! (Or is it the Morecambe and Wise show ?)
I'am a New Zealander.,My first family arrived here in 1843,the
next 1873,my grandchildren are 5th generation Kiwis.We are one NZ.Lets keep it that way.
1843 - oh gosh
My back ground is similar... generations of family working and creating NZ... we were one people then and we must always remain one people.
@@ngahuiadixon8930 When did the Dixons arrive?
The irony is is that Celts were living in NZ thousands of years before Māori arrived, but it’s been completely covered up by government and private interest groups to keep the Māori land ownership narrative afloat.
Our family arrived in Petone in 1839. Before any Treaty was signed. Not sure what that means in terms of our NZ status but I have always understood we are one people, one nation. I hope it remains that way.
Te Pati Maori ain't representing me AT ALL...To radical
I agree totally,
I’m Māori and these shits don’t represent me either
Nicely said.
@@sox7784 I am of Ngapuhi descent, if my mother was alive she would not be impressed at all. Te Pati Maori DO NOT represent me either.
Yip. Spot on!
Im maori and those donkeys dont represent anyone from the election stats its about 1.7 maori out of 10
Thanks for hosting Buddy Mikaera, he reminds that Maori politics is not a complete monolith and that there is a diversity of voices within the community.
I agree. Its nice to see.
I also agree, although, IMO, it's more nuanced.
The word 'Māori', as a collective noun, only came into use (by the Pakeha) during the 1940s, after the Treaty of Waitangi was signed.
The reason Pakeha can't solve Māori issues is because Māori are tribal by their very nature and DON'T speak with one voice.
Prior to the Treaty of Waitangi, Iwi and Hapu were nation states until themselves.
These separate Māori nations gave up their nationhoods under the Treaty of Waitangi to become one nation with the Pakeha. That's why there are 540 Chiefs as signatories to the Treaty.
Pakeha can't solve 'Māori issues' because Māori are still holding tribal grudges from at least two centuries ago.
It's this misunderstanding by Pakeha, including those self-styled 'righteous Pakeha' in our Goverment, that causes Pakeha to continually look for ways, often involving money, to fix what is an unfixable problem from a Māori perspective.
Unfortunately, from at least the 1970s, there have been a succession of Māori and non-Māori 'leaders' and hangers-ons who've seen the New Zealand government as a "soft touch".
These people are more than happy to foment division and feed from the trough of taxpayer-funded handouts, which are now into the multi-billions of dollars.
New Zealand's Government needs to stop trying to fix Māori problems.
Our Government needs to stop being a pushover and start treating all Māori and Pakeha as NEW ZEALANDERS, with the same rights and obligations.
Pakeha can't, and shouldn't, try to fix the wrongs Māori tribes and Hapu did to each other two centuries ago during the Maori tribal wars of 1807 - 1845.
Blow me over.
Buddy talking sense and the truth.
Me too; Maori male.
A divided country always leads to strife and even war.
Instead, we should all work together for the betterment of everyone here; like I heard Winston say the other day.
But what do I know; I'm just a kid 😅
Well Winston runs with his voter base so he can get back into power - he's also put his own race down - so his blue rise brigade can hear his 'good'' news - he appeases them all the time
Good on ye mate 👍
A kid much wiser than a lot of foolish adults.
@@ngahuiadixon8930far out is National making you work for your benefit,kicked you out of your HNZ house & will be taking your hubbys gang patch off him? 😴
Wise words,thanks for some common sense,it's refreshing these days!
That party needs to be disbanded. I’m not impressed with this current government that keeps sitting on their hands for some reason. I keep seeing the picture of Luxton looking out the window during the Covid protest. No one came to speak to them accept Winston.
Luxon is nothing but a useless fence sitter not capable of having any backbone whatsoever
Because it's part of a managed dialectic, political theater that they're all in on & playing their part
Net out come is always division, hostility & demoralization of all NZers along with losing more of our rights
Never interrupt the enemy when he’s making a mistake, let them keep running their mouths. Most Maori would disagree with the nutters.
Yep I'm no labour fan but watching Luxon in an empty field in the Wairarapa wearing a mask whilst doing an interview told me everything I need to know about him. All traitors to the settlers are government.
Because in an open and free society people have the right to engage in political idiocy. Given that you juxtapose disbanding the party with the government supposedly sitting on its hands, would it seems to me indicate that this is something you think the government should do.They don't have the power, that you want them to have such power makes me very glad your political influence is limited to a vote. I for one would not put you in charge of a sheep dip.
Sounds like buddy should be in the government. A very level headed person.
Which is exactly why he won't get there.
A very suitable candidate to apeeaee white NZ you mean. Did you not see the streets filled with Maori who want justice and equity ?
Good to hear Buddy back on the show. He is a true New Zealander.
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Te Pati Maori are representing their own pockets.
Luxon's response to all this has been very disappointing though not unexpected. He needs to get some guts and call this all out for what it is and a breach of their oath to Parliament.
Luxon can’t get what he hasn’t got.
He has talked about it saying it needs to be investigated
Perhaps he can also address the breaches of the treaty - and return all the stolen land and assests.
@@djhemirukahemisphere8893 there is over thirty and reportedly closer to seventy billion dollars in Iwi hands, if you want what you think is rightfully yours you should maybe go talk to Iwi leaders about where all that money is and who's actually benefiting because it sure isn't any Maori I personally know.
@@djhemirukahemisphere8893 Wait - you've already been paid out for all the land etc - (well that elitist bunch of thieves and liars has - not sure if you're a part of them). Millions and millions of dollars of TAX PAYERS money - including from those Maori who are hardworking and just want to get on with life - AND EARN THEIR WAY - like my hubby - and now you want the land back too.
Greedy, divisive and dishonest.
This whole thing stinks of Ardern and Clarke
Im not against Pati Maori like not against any Party but I blame National they started this of Maori you only have to listen. SPEAKER of house has no control, As Labour speaks hes ripping them but National open format. NZ is downsize already so wasted money paying these in Parliament not helping our country tearing to pieces. 1000s lost jobs, Towns empty, Hospitals struggling all you lot thrashing Maori
You National suppose to be Ringawera for NZ heck no maumau te moni. saying National should be hothands waste our money, now. more racisim coming from your domain,.
I don't see that connection ? Are you pedaling sound-bites ?
What a fukwit you are blame 2 white women for tamakis bullshit you dickhead stop being so bloody desperate ya knob .... little knob at that
The louder the whinge the less public support there is generally
Though louder the political support normally..
Public support does not take into consideration the rights of Maori or we would have equity and justice in Aotearoa.
They are dreaming wanting there own parliament.
Telling kiwis, we are guests to this country.
Our families built and developed
thanks buddy for calming this sort of thing down.
Exactly, Plunket and the like gets tiring to listen to
I love our Kiwi and Maori culture, it's what makes us uniquely New Zealand. And as New Zealanders, we are all privileged to live in this first world country built on the backs of all our tupuna/ancestors within a colonial system. A system that provides free education, healthcare, welfare and superannuation. If you were born in India, none of these are provided. A system that has tried for decades to right the wrongs of our colonial forebears with land settlements, Marae upgrades, access to tertiary education, free alchohol drug and mental health facilities run by Maori for Maori. Maori health providers are also funded by tax payers. When will Maori realize that despite a history of some bad behavior on the part of pakeha, we love you. You are inherently connected to our identity. We don't want discord, we want peace, unity and the space for all cultures to express their unique beauty. Just a thought.
Thats the best analysis and definition I have read yet. Thank you.
These things you name were mainly under a socialist Labour govt. A party with a heart - Helping the less fortunate and NOT ONLY Maori which many seem to think - its great to know that some like you love us - there are organisational groups though who want to make profit out of everything and so for many of us (including nonMaori I would think) those aspects of life get in the way - rules for everything which sometimes seems unfair - you may not see it because. you belong to the majority - like many minorities throughout the world the pattern is the same - eg. rates on our own land we have inherited from ancestors - and without improvements RATES still have to be paid - I ask FOR WHAT - another example - Maori should look after themselves with the Claims payments - Those payments which are petty compared to the land value taken should rightfully be paid back - did you know that some of the confiscated land in Tauranga where I come from was sold to settlers - land by theft through the might of the musket, and later the pen - so until we are fairly listened to there will be a group like the Maori Party (some aspects of their policies which I don't accept I might add) who will speak out
@@ngahuiadixon8930 Thanks for your perspective Ngahuia. Just to clarify, my Grandfather is Maori. The majority I belong to is humanity, as do you. I wish you well.
@@BobPackardThankyou ❤
@ngahuiadixon8930 minorities through history?
Like the pakeha, who make up less then 10% of the earths population but own less then 2% of their indigenous lands?
Sensible conversation.
New Zealanders don't need racial division.
I appreciate Buddy's wise common sense. Thank you for the interview Sean. We need more Buddies!!!
It’s all Tamahire’s plan.
He knows he’s facing prosecution for his misuse of funds, electorate fraud, mismanagement, dishonesty etc.
He knows his Māori Party has no traction in parliament and they aren’t going to deliver him any rewards.
So plan B
A separate parliament where he will claim immunity from prosecution.
That parliament would be headed by the Maori party which he is head of.
Essentially making him the top dog of their utopia.
He likes to get his own way and will not go down without a fight.
He’ll use the race card even after it’s maxed out.
He’ll be busy now garnering support from various iwi groups to criminal gangs .
Corner him and he’ll go gung-ho.
All of us are from settlers. Almost all of us are mixed from Oceania and the early Euro settlers.
We do need to slow down on immigrants though, they send earnings out of the country, get our passports and dash off to greener grasses overseas. Meanwhile our young have lost hope in buying a home and starting families with Kiwi children, that we desperately need, unless their parents can pay. Real Kiwis only have one country we call home and always return to our families here if we do an OE. Its the immigrants leaving by the thousands, not us. Stop investing in this endless cycle and start supporting all Kiwis, part Maori and Non Maori.
They do not represent me either!!
te patty love the colonialist fruits... look at how they embrace nice houses, nice cars, nice clothes, air travel, all expenses paid travel and the money... love the free money
If you Hand them a PURSE full of someone else's money it will soon DISAPEAR. Look at history
@@briansatchell2319Just as well the government doesn't do the same aye..
Edit: sorry, wrong narrative.
Absolute greedy tribalism al the time
Of course they love it. They've been colonised. Much to their liking.
Much of it paid from their own pockets - called tax CHOPPER - if you have a brain - no different from the JUNKETS other white non-Politicians go on under the guide of trade missions - eg farmers to sell products - what's the difference - oh I forgot - one lot are white the other 'coloured'
The way I see it didn't everyone come to New Zealand by ship/boat or floating tree
TPM certainly isn't representing me! They are way too radical for my liking
Separate Maori Parliament? Sure. All you would need is the abrogation of Article One of the Treaty. The only problem with that might be the cancellation of Article Three.
Plus all the tax rates we pay which means abut 1/4 of the tax intake
@@ngahuiadixon8930maths is not your strong point,alot less than 1/4 more like 0.014
@ngahuiadixon8930 as if every Maori living in NZ pays taxes lol.
The rich pay the lions share of taxes in NZ, and most of the Maori community is too young to pay taxes.
As our media and police are woke nothing ever happens to them
Well you have your mate David Seymour in charge now,?Bet he won't change anything
Good interview. Sadly it seems to non-maori that the maori party are speaking for maori. Hence the concern.
I would suggest not listening too closely to what TPM says. Or any political party for that matter.
This time feels different. The Maori party seem to have the backing of the UN (UNDRIP). Wouldn't surprise me if they've been through training with the UN & WEF. Same with the MSM too.
Jeez, he's not sounding Maori enough for the Cow Patty Party or Labour for that matter.Good interview Sean finally a senior Maori figure talking sense, let's hope a lot more of them come out in an effort to stop the horrible racist nonsense that is going on in our lovely little country.
Buddy doesn't speak for many of us - but If National stop getting Atlas Network links to run our country, control the visual media e.g. TVv - maybe we'll get unity - until then do we want overseas interests running our country with little say in it - do we want as Maori to have some say - of course 0 and don't tell me we can get in through voting - some ''potatoe Maori' - brown on the outside white inside can get in - Not those who believe we have something worthwhile to contribute - e.g. Maori economy - worth a lot which is helping many Kiwis including non-Maori - so until the Westminster system decides to share power why should we bow down - and people like Sean obviously get those who will have a view similar to his - don't need a brain to work that out - the ones who will agree with him - or to make a point he will reconfigure to suit his right-wing agenda
I wonder if the Maori party actually has more support from liberal hand wringing europeans and Greens than the average Maori.
They probably ticked the box in the census saying that they are Maori too, to get the numbers up 🤣
I guarantee you most of their votes come from university indoctrinated pakeha women.
Funny you should say that. I know a few pakeha that ticked maori as a protest tick. If we all tick maori then what?
We need to move forward. To remain loyal members of the commonwealth- but to find out how the nation as a whole- can express a sense of sovereignty. To embrace our own identity here...
The commonwealth is a scheme to keep nations under the thumb of central banks.
About time some one like Buddy speaks out. Why can't more join him and cancel the activists out
Q: How do you know you if are sharing a flight with Te Pati Maori members?
A: When the pilot turns the engines off you can still hear the whining
Te Pāti Māori need to stop dividing our country and its people. Not all Māori agree with the way Te Pāti Māori are addressing the political issues.
Thank you Buddy.
The whole Earth and all of us are amazing and special. Stop this crap of one with another. Love to each and every one.
I'm really glad this conversation happened, it's too easy to get caught up in the headlines, specially when it's been made out that ALL Maori think this way by the MSM. I personally think it would be hilarious to watch Te Pati Maori try and start their own Government and watch as they figure out how complicated it actually is and they don't know what they are doing.
Trust Maori don't want a separate Māori government it will not be good for anyone.
I’m just so tired of the us and them mentality. Most maori are now less than 50% so it’s time these Te Part maori party move on and did something for the betterment of New Zealand instead of creating racism and ill feeling.
Buddy is someone who would be better suited to representing maori interests, rather the rawiri shill..
Its about time Pakeha had funding to brand our marginalised race
Ah yes, if they didn't have double standards they'd have none at all.
Personally I'd love to have a separate parliament provided they have a separate taxation system so we don't have to keep subsidising these lunatics.
Maori aren't some united group-remember a lot of the tribes were at war & bitter enemies of each other before & even after the British arrived..
And they ate each other
At last, it's encouraging to see Maori coming out not in support of TPM. I liked Buddy's analogy that TPM doesn't represent all Maori any more than David Seymour represents all non-Maori. Nor does any single Party! Fortunately, the adults in parliament can cope with differences of opinion, without having to threaten to tear the place apart. The solution is to dissolve the Maori electorates, as promised when MMP was being considered, which will help take the focus away from the separatism TPM that needs, to remain relevant. It'll fade away as other Maori realise there is more to be gained by all pulling in the same general direction.
of course the kingitanga is morbidly afraid of a separate Maori Parliament. his turangawaiwai gravy train will disappear in a brown puff of smoke under a maori parliament which will not be able to demand funds or anything else from the so called colonial oppressors any more thats for sure! hopefully theres a nationwide vote on it because the colonialists will be 100% behind it @@@!!
I think its high time a new maori party was formed that represents those sensible, responsible hard working maori that are prepared to honour Te Tiriti section 2 that ALL New Zealanders are equal.. I have 2 sons and a daughter and they are all part-maori,.. I want them to be proud of their maori heritage , not embarrassed by it ...
The final Treaty in English isn't used that's the problem they have a draft sample only
@@StGammon77 To be honest I don't look at is a founding document anyway ,.. more , just a contract... There has to be a better way for us ,when living in such a wonderful place as New Zealand.. I think the majority just want to get along .
Your embarrassing thinking you know what’s best for Maori!!🤦🏽♀️🤣😂
@@adriandocherty778 I am not concerned about what maori want ... couldn't give a rats arse .. I am concerned about what we want .
@@johnrogers5309 and I don’t give a rats arse about what u want too!! 🤣😂
Investigate Tamahere
Give em what they want !! Then sit back and watch the show.
As long as those of us who don’t want it don’t have to pay for it. Let the iwis who want a separate parliament pay for that.
@@jasperhorace7147 Don't forget they pay TAXES TOO
@@ngahuiadixon8930 And use the education system, the justice system, the health system, all the public goods provided by taxes, including the parliament we already have. Want something else, then buy it for yourself.
It'll have to be self funded...
@@ngahuiadixon8930 Taxes pay for the common good. Schools, hospitals, prisons, roads and the parliament we already have.
Gee I've developed a bit of respect for Buddy with this interview, good to hear from him. Cheers Sean.
Lots of talk that we can’t blame all Māori for the actions of the tpm . Does that mean we can stop blaming white folk for the actions of people who lived almost 200 years ago ?
Those. mourees did THEIR * WALK* . BEFORE the Budget was even Delivered. Work that out folks
Do you think misspelling 'Māori' helps your cause?
Is it common for you to ridicule a race of people because that's the way they were born?
You're part of the division bs.
@@user-bw5ncyour name says it all P-user 🤣
Quite a history about the Maori - put the Inca's or the Aztecs to shame in degeneration. Outcast from the Cook Islands during the 13th century as weaker primitive Neolithic people by later waves of Polynesians (Maori were from the original wave of primitive Polynesians pushed right out across the Eastern Pacific by successive stronger more advanced groups arriving from the west). They were outcast on rafts and some floated to the North East Coast of NZ driven by the South Equatorial Current and were stranded for 500 years. The weaker were pushed down to the South Island or Chathams etc. So the South Island Maori (had their own language) were the weakest of the weak. They were captured and eaten as 'Slave flesh' by the northern Maori doing raids. (Well they all ate each other - 80% of Maori pre European were dark skinned easily fattened slaves farmed and eaten by a lighter skinned 'Ariki' thin wiry elite royal caste). So it was with some righteousness as well as British cunning that they armed the southern Maori who then with muskets launched a genocidal war on the north.. That plus measles & flu halved the Maori population and removed most of the elite. The British then liberated the slaves and outlawed cannibalism. The northern Maori fought with the British against the south bad west Maori 'rebels'. The Maori sued for peace and a treaty was signed that removed all sovereignty and made them subjects to the English crown where the English would protect them from each other. Land could only be sold to or via the Crown. Maori could live on their reservations with native custom but none did. The treaty of Waitangi is strikingly clear in that the Maori cede sovereignty completely and become citizens of Great Britain - all 3 clauses lock that in. Nothing in today's 'Maori' culture is authentic. The music - all European (Maoris did not have tonal music, the songs are missionary tunes or introduced - Poi dance is from Islands and Stick dance from old Malaya. The carvings and art - all European - Arabesques that was the fashion at the time. Original Maori had limited dash carving and no painting of objects. No written language - all the syntax & grammar plus vowel inflection is European. No technology - some lagoon canoes and wood or stone Neolithic tools. No food sources - like pigs or crops - they left that all behind, all they had was a weak inbred fox (now extinct), some rats and a weak dismal pacific yam. They ate out all the bird-life including 10 species of Moa and 46 other bird species, didn't know how to farm the sea as were island people and so they turned to societal cannibalism. Today - no full blood or half blood left. No genuine tradition and almost all are offspring of Maori slave females sold to white settlers for muskets or food. -So more fake than the 'Sioux' or 'Cherokee' or 'Crow' who had at least retained some genuineness about who they were and their history. -Everything you 'saw or experienced' is fake. A totally convected disneyfied tokenistic set of inventions fueled by a grievance culture of mixed-race imposters fetishing a false past bad history because it pays benefits. 'This Horrid Practice' - Professor Paul Moon, "A Savage Country" Professor Paul Moon 'Behind The Tattooed Face' - Heretaunga Pat Baker, 'Anthropology In The South Seas' - H D Skinner
All that knowledge and that’s all you could come up with??🤦🏽♀️😂🤣
Thankyou Buddy you talk sence.
😂 been on the pipe 😂.. I agree with you Sean, how else did her husband drop all his weight aswell, doubt it was running or eating less
Yes the Nats in particular are being very passive at the moment. Avoiding the hard calls as was always suspected.
Theres one thing working class Maori and lower class Maori agree on, neither votes Te Pati Maori
Just a correction: Tuheitia is not 'the maori king'. He is a Maori, who some people call king. That's it, and that's all.
CORRECTION - He is the Maori King - and. you don't have to be included if you are a Maori and believe otherwise - that's your view - many others acknowledge him as 'Maori King' - let each Maori decide whether he's a Maori King for them or otherwise - not for YOU to decide as you are doing here
@@ngahuiadixon8930 No is is *A* maori called King. he is not *THE* maori king. Unless you mean to suggest that no other maori is whakahihi enough to call themselves that, yes I would agree with that. For most of the tribes around the country, including mine, (and me personally) he is a whakamanamana irrelevance.
The maori king is a former truckie.
Te Pati Maori may well implode from within. Some party members and its supporters may walk away from the bad publicity they are getting.
Thanks buddy
The Crown has nothing to fear. Fear is a sign of weakness.
The only.problem i see with a seperate maori parliment is whos going to fund it
Remember it was the national John Key government that ceeded millions of public funded and managed conservation land to the modern regional tribal representatives.
For example Waikaremoana. After which tribal radicals promptly burned down 50 conservation tramping fishing and hunting shelters, in spite?
To decolinise the area.
I discussed this with moari identifying university graduate professionals who stated "it's maori land they cam do what they want."
My response was hypothermia is colour blind.
Sean how about wait until he answers the question instead of answering it for him
Mainstream media need to start focussing on paying the bills, that means covering both sides of the story, and covering them from the people's point of view not their bizarre woke lens
Kaipa te nga korero , boys . Keep it up , Buddy N great interview Shaun 😅
It's not the first time the maurewa marae has had controversy
Te Pati Maori party needs to be kicked out they don't represent mainstream Maori just activists
Too much money for too long!!!
let them fund their own parliament, won't get far
(Need to check that Rotorua Lot out too) Rawiri's crew
i did my cencus 3 weeks later i get mail
saying we see your maori ad on the general roll
we would like you to change to maori roll !
I was like how did these people get my personal infomation ?
I was so disgusted by 'her' swearing rant. I'm never gonna use a swear word after hearing her.
I changed from Maori Roll to General Roll. They most certainly do not speak for me or other Maori like myself.
We have to go to the source of the discussion. At present we live in a democracy with a capitalist economy. The Maori party and their connected activists have no plan other than to destroy our society, that fact supported by the evidence that no county on earth has a successful alternative model. A confused mix of communism and tribal royalty is likely their only plan, but never discussed. Because they know all the alternatives have failed and legacy media will even ask the basic question, the Maori party cannot answer.
Of course they will suggest real communism hasn’t been tried yet. Or what’s wrong with Maori royalty running New Zealand, while banging on about the evils of colonialism. Simply they are the malcontent loosers without a plan.
How about telling us how they intend on destroying society?? How about the CCP or the Peoples Republic of Chinas use of communism today as an example??
Jack Tame…publicity , and viewers. No viewers no Jack…
they had one out the back of Graytown
So who's going to pay back the wage.
I know I am immature when I say this, but every time Sean says Buddy, the only thing I can think is "I'm not your buddy, pal."
I really just want a safer community to live in. With out the bullying and blackmailing and extortion and crime. With hate crimes and. Fraud. It’s time to make. New Zealand safer. And to be honest. I surport the police and law enforcement. Only in life now. As I see this as tue way. To get a safer New Zealand 🇳🇿.
I don't agree with Buddy Mikaere, but I respect him.
Give me a call I'd like you to interview me @Sean or @Leah
91% of voters didnt vote for Act so I guess thats true & the count was a million protestors walking with Te Pati which was unexpected ? very interesting indeed
They are dreaming 🙄
I really love to weigh I. On this. 0:15 0:15 0:15 0:15 0:15 0:15 but I won’t. As I am a responsible citizen at present. But I did lisen. To the podcast. Thu
Crabs in a bucket
Crooked as a dogs hind leg is TPM
Kiri had the best speech ever I thought
Hate speech
We need contrary opinions- plenty here. An outlet for people's views. What not?
TPM do not represent all Maori ,,,,thank god😂
WEF UN Maori Pati. Sir Pita got a powhiri at te Marae UN in 2010 prior to selling a Maori voice to the UN without informing Maori. UN Indigenous Tenure Trap.
We always here "Maori want this" or "Maori want that" but you cannot talk for every person who identifies as Maori! No Eurokiwi politician ever say "Pakehs/New Zealanders want this or that, it is a very strange way to try to drag every Maori into the debate on their side. Say I want, our Party wants but don't push every free thinking Maori into these demands!
Divide and rule. Short live Claus Schwab and Noah Yuval Harare.
A Maori Parliament would never get off the ground due to the ego trip all the Tea Party Maori members are individually on and the clashes between them would be like restarting the Maori Wars.
Deflection 101
I turned 60 this year, the generalizing/stereotyping of the Māori race is not new to me.
It's become normalized to do this.
Being 90% English, but automatically recorded as Māori, through government box ticking.
Guess which side I will stand with??.
Btw, why are we ticking ethnic boxes, when they're not even accurate??
The only ones sooking about TPM is who?? How is TPM effecting your life??🤦🏽♀️😂🤣
Pure flatulencies. Blowing off in all directions!
4:28 4:28 4:29 oh. Dame. 😊
6 Feb. 1840 maori chiefs ceded sovereignty to the crown and went on to sell 92% of New Zealand 🇳🇿. It's time to end co governance, it is divisive and a financial rort. Waititis rants make every thing else seem legit.
On this I agree with Buddy
What’s that even supposed to mean??🤣😂
The political parties. Are. Going for it at present. Dame. Lots goin on in the new. Too. I don’t buy a paper. But I do. Watch. Tv news. When I can.
Tea Party have no credibility.
To be taken seriously they must earn respect and credibility.
What a cowboy-hatted clown show ! (Or is it the Morecambe and Wise show ?)