Do Depressed Artists Make Better Art?
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- čas přidán 11. 07. 2024
- A video for the very specific kind of person who is afraid that letting go of depression means they will lose a part of themselves.
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I honestly really appreciate that the thumbnail is just "No".
Same! That’s what I came here to say.
Period before the parentheses.
That was epic
I too appreciate this
“No.”*
art teacher: "Your too happy to be a good artist."
Bob Ross: "Am i a joke to you?"
Bob Ross is too good for this world
Bob Ross was a good painter but a bad artist
duperele1998 uh oh!!! Your comment stinks!!!
@@sourmiIk what did they say? the comment is gone lol
Bob Ross actually struggled with various situations that made him quite miserable during his life. The fact that he was the maximun expresion of kindness only makes him an even more outstanding human being
do EMOTIONALLY MOVED artists make better art? YES.
Sadness and troubles in life give you stories and feelings to express. But so do positive emotions.
Yeah check Linkin Park , emotionally struggling people make really heavy emotional pieces , if you were a teenager in 2004 you just felt like Linkin Park spoke to your heart and your teenage pain , while more "wholesome pieces" can be enjoyable aswell but in a different way like for example the Beatles
True! You can express yourself even better than people who are not as emotional. No matter if it is through art/ writing etc. . Creativity in general is really good for people who are emotional, because it calms them down a lot. They focus more on what they do at the moment than what is going on around them. I think if emotional people wouldn't be creative they would spend way more time overthinking. At least that's what I did/do, but I know lots of people who are more into the creative part and they also struggle with overthinking. ^^
On a lighter note horniness drives my production
yes but I think it comes from a place of deep introspection, which happy people can have as well. and sad people may not have. A lot of shit I see online when it comes to "depressed art" is basically very superficial stuff that screams I need attention.
Yes but theres is a value to being sad and troubled sometimes, depresión isnt good at all but having some negative emotions sometimes does make you better at somethings and it does make you feel more alive, or at least it does to me
It's ok to Say that depression is allways Bad, thats true but yo Say that You shouldn't ever feel sad ir that You should allways avoid it is wrong
"Being depressed is no good, take an onion"
- Shrek
EDIT: I just realized that most tasty food out there used onion
I just bought two onions today! Or is this a bad thing? Should I have taken only one?
Give one to a friend.
@@an2qzavok share a LaYeR or tWo!
Taki for a spilt second, I thought you meant to peel off a thin layer of the onion and give it to ur friend.... whoops
randomly weird ideas onions are great
Romanticism fetishized the image of the struggling artist, the unappreciated genius, the unfinished work. Maybe one day we will move on.
The romanticism movement was full of shit.
Yeah, there are a lot of myths or just lies that we just believe because of the old artists, like the primary colors
The romantic movement was a wave of entightled reactionary crybabies and full of fecal matter
@@MariaLuiza-tp2dc Primary colors?
@@OdaKa Yeah, people still believe that they are red, yellow and blue
But they actually are magenta, cyan and yellow and this does apply to paintings, digital art, markers, etc.
Depression kills motivation. Never have I ever woke up feeling like shit and had my mind instantly jump to creating something. Maybe that’s just me.
I have the same thing, Everytime I have an depressive episode, I just want to lay in bed and do nothing... 🙃
I think what happens is an artist will make some sort of commentary on depression and every one assumes that’s the place they were in when they worked on it, when in actuality they are just pulling from past experiences or feelings.
Totally feel this. I used to draw a whole lot as a kid, but during my adolescence went through terrible depression and stopped drawing. It's only now that I feel purposeful again that my joy in drawing has returned.
I can understand.
For me, there were periods of time where I didn't want to draw for months, and if I did draw something, I would feel unmotivated to finish it, and unmotivated to improve my art.
I'm getting better now tho, and I'm trying to draw at least once a day, even if it's just a sketch, because art is my hobby and what I want to do for a living.
I hope you'll be able to find your motivation too, in the near future.
4Shadowing Depression is a curse. I always tell myself I NEED to accomplish something, I NEED to find a way to express myself, else my life is meaningless, but at the end of the day, I don't do it. I have no motivation. And this is why depression is awful, because it gives you anxiety both ways.
That art teacher needs to be freaking fired. Encouraging depression (no matter the intent) is straight up dangerous and should not be teaching.
For real
I second you
Fitting profile pic btw
Ya
But wat with your pfp
That might be an actual crime too, btw
@@sashabagdasarow497 it should be imo
As an artist with clinical depression, I love how you clarified that the appeal of artwork about depression is the Honesty that goes into it.
@ɮօʊռċɛ օʄʄ it starts out small and you might not even notice it at first
@ɮօʊռċɛ օʄʄ not sure if I understand the question correctly, but it can happen without specific inciting events, and continues for a long period of time. just another way of saying 'major depressive disorder'
My depression has actually discouraged me from making art because of the aforementioned disadvantages of
1.) Putting your work out there to be judged and
2.) My mentality that my work is not good enough and will never be good enough.
So in conclusion.... um....
yes exactly
You're right!
True
Hey atleast you make something, I didn't, I can't, I wish I can draw like anyone else
This is so true
so main goal of succesfull artist life is:
being a furry?
In this era: yep. That's why porn artists are doing so good, you gotta know where the whales are.
@@nedinnis6752 time reject my humanity for money I guess
@Ali Rodriguez I know what you mean, though I'm not exactly implying that. In industries like gaming and art, you have "whales" who can support the entire thing and pay ludicrous amounts of money for commissions and micro transactions. In this case, furry porn attracts the rich sexual furries, and supports your local artist, just like you have mobile addicts who pay absurd amounts of money for a virtual character in phone game. The average person won't necessarily be a big part of this industry, since they are the "small fry" of this analogy.
@Ali Rodriguez Only 10%. Your delusional.
Technically... Yes
U get alot of money being a furry. Im sure those fursuits arent cheap. Someone made a freaking robot fursuit linked with an app and everything.
When you're depressed you find things that you love less exciting and fun. Same for drawing, at list for me.
That's the scariest thing about depression to me
I've been feeling like this for so long. I've always wondered why did my motivation suddenly drop out of nowhere.
@@janiceithink4748 yep it happens to everyone, especially in puberty
I still find interest in art, more than ever actually. I may be losing interest in other things, but I love art. It makes me happy.
Read a book about El Greco and the Author was really big on the "to suffer is to understand art" and the first pages just went on and on about how sad Greco's life where, how he suffered and how that is why he achieved true understanding of art and that you can never be a real artist if you haven't suffered. I stopped reading after that.
Van Gogh, the poster child of "depression makes good art" is a constantly miss used example. He did the best art when he was OUT of his depressive episodes and one can argue that we would have had more Van Gogh art had he been treated. You should never deliberately stay depressed or sabotage your happiness and it will not make you a better artist. Teaching people they aren't sad enough is beyond unethical.
Yes. I was thinking van Gogh too. A lot of his art is gloriously happy and yet he wasn't. So by all accounts he wasn't true to himself. LOL.
Some people do art to escape depression, so I understand if these do happy stuff.
But on the other hand I would not describe van gogh‘s stuff as happy. It‘s just colorful.
what if van Gogh couldn'd find happiness in things in life while he was depressed and the only way was to show it in his art?
Yes, but that doesnt mean feeling sad some few times is Bad, i do try to be happy but if i'm going yo be sad anyways, id rather use that as inspiración if i can, i think depression is useless but i don't think having negative emotions is, i don't think se van generalise on that
@@marmolejomartinezjoseemili9043 depression isn't "useless", it's a mental Illness, it's straight up harmful.
I hate to be this person but: This came out scarily on time.
miyesh same here-
yes, here too
You're not alone.
@miyesh , we feel you.
Same
My best friend is literally the farthest from depressed a person can be and her art is incredible
Maybe she is depressed an it Just doesn't shows
excuse me? pardon me?
this person was saying their friend
is the happiest person they can be
and you HAVE to comment that.
ha, wow.
@@CarlsCozyCorner tell em
Apparently I'm terrible at hiding my depression so I'd be inclined to believe Carleigh
@@leafar8272 I hope something shits in your cereal
"When you're depressed everything that's not depressing doesn't feel real" OH NO I've felt the exact same thing so many times now, it's the worst
Yeah.
my entire childhood, i always hated happy people, i only recently figured out why. happy families just repulsed me, imagine actually being who you want to be
edit: sorry for inserting myself into everything just vented a bit ig
I’m not depressed but I’ve been feeling really down the last couple months, sometimes I look at my little brothers and knowing that what’s a painful day for me is happy and exciting for them makes it a little easier. Sometimes
"who are these people trying to fool? we all know happiness doesn't exist"
I didn't need to be called out like that,,,
City Melody smooth
City Melody is this your cryptic way of saying that you don't want to exist or am i overlooking things
@@hexexists yeah, I don't think Melody was talking abou my state of happiness five days ago x'D
Neither did I AH-
“Everything that isn’t depressing just doesn’t feel real” damn.
Yeah. I think that was a sadly very accurate description.
"Trying to communicate by art is the equivalent of stripping naked"
Can't express how true this is
Depression made me stop drawing altogether so I already had reservations about this idea...
Depression doesn't make me a great artist, it made me want to *kill myself*.
I love this. I'll be quoting this to everyone lol
mattias you're the first person in a video I've seen that acknowledges the expenses furries save up for merch and art commissions
@@Trailtracker that was relevant and spot on until the last part haha. i mean there is a lot of trashy art but everyone makes that. trashy furry art is just extra memorable i guess
@@Trailtracker I see that too. It's just a hunch for me but I think the eccentricity of the fandom attracts more toxic people than usual because something is almost "allowing" it to be that way. It's hard being open around art colleagues and people that I'm a total furry, still
@@takemetoyonk
I was just reading your last sentence, and I couldn't understand the message you were trying to convey through it.
I am genuinely curious about what you had to say, so if you have time, could you rephrase that? Like the sentence didn't make much sense
I remember lots of furry commisioners working in hospitals as surgeons, doctors, nurses and other high paying jobs.
It left me scared
@@silverdededestruction2197 why so?
Honestly, the most touching art comes after depression. In that phase when you don't want to be sad anymore but this time, you're motivated to do something. Slowly but surely, you start to appreciate yourself more. Start seeing some great things you missed about yourself. The feeling of starting to love yourself more is one of the best joys there is.
I 100% agree with this but I am definitely somewhat biased as I am currently in that phase.
People just don’t see when artists shift from depression to overcoming it and using emotional experience in art
Ekaterina Nikiforova look if one is truly depressed. you dont get over it. you live with it. anything else and youre just sad
@@YepsMr even chronic depression can go away after a while, it just takes some work. also, people can have depressive episodes or feel depressed for a short time. seasonal depression is a thing too. don't act like there's only one type of depression.
@Michael Pelton well, actually, I think you're right. I'd probably have to rephrase that. but it's definitely not something you can't help at all, like the first reply is implying.
@Michael Pelton oh, great! yeah, I also get pissed when people get defensive, so I try not to be either lol.
@Michael Pelton It depends on the cause if depression. Some people have the actual clinical depression, but there may be other diagnoses that are more temporary, like postpartum depression for example.
I think that becoming depressed AND THEN overcoming it is what make the art style really great. It's not the condition that made good art, but the experience.
That last part about how when you're depressed everything not depressing doesn't seem real is absolutely true. I had depression around a year ago which I'm now out of and I remember thinking how stupid simple happy things were how much joy can come from a smile from a stranger or seeing a flower or looking at the sky just good things that dont require money, effort or real time.
Imogen Carney sounds like you were just really extra sad. depression isnt something you can just work on to get out of. you people really like to toss the word depression around. i wish real depression would hit all of you like a brick to the face at high speeds.
@@YepsMr oh I'm sorry I was unaware that you knew me and everything to do with what happened in my life last year. Maybe think before posing something so disgusting, wishing depression on people like you're better than everyone else get over yourself.
@Michael Pelton again, you dont know me? You can't read my mind? What exactly is it about my comment that make you think I "woke up one day and felt a little bit sad" and am maliciously belittling you, who has personally suffered? Don't get me wrong here, if you're telling the truth I'm sorry about that and I hope you seek the appropriate help like I did, but then again how do I know you're not lying? I can't read your fucking mind.
@Michael Pelton terrible opinion
edit: no offense. I just think that we really shouldn't compare those things
@Michael Pelton yeah mb with opinion. I just think that telling people who feel bad without depression that they just feel sad may hurt them bcs word "sad" sounds childish and they legitimately suffer. But maybe you just wanted to be precise and im an idiot
Looking at my art sure does make me depressed though.
Holy shit...
"There is so much more to you than just the depression" Thank you for this video and the words. I used to use depression as a source of my creation but now that I'm doing well mentally, all my creativity had gone and I didn't feel like drawing anymore, Its time to find a new source.
Personally for me, I was making my animated web series (for a couple of years) while going through my worst depression and ended up with a messy series. Also it didn't help having a main character who was depressed and suicidal. I think if you're on the path of actually bettering yourself with depression you could make better art. You can build meaningful themes and really think about what is important. You can express that "honesty" and give out a good message. But if you're swimming around in your depression, just completely given up, you're just gonna come out making really negative art. You're gonna be mad and frustrated. Your message will be murky and not clear. I think using some of your depression is fine but you shouldn't be dependant on it because it is dangerous. The past year I've been working on improving my body, living a healthier lifestyle and just making big changes. Depression sucks but its just something you have to learn live with. If you're able to use it with your art without damaging the art or yourself then sweet but you must be very careful.
i didnt read the full comment but basically what helps me i personally really love surrealism and drawing like, really vague emotions that i cant put into words, like just my entire mood, no matter how painful it is i'll find some color that resonates, and sometimes the grey colors can look really soothing
so yeah that helps me
When I'm depressed, i hate everything i make... sooo
Relatable
Can relate
Yup
When I was on emotional and mental low points in my life, I just shut down, spend a lot of time inside reading book after book and slept a lot.
I draw the best when I have an idea, a desire to broadcast warm feelings, like two small siblings playing together with old toys. When I'm on this emotional high of wanting to share what I feel/want to feel or draw something for my friends to make them happy, I'm very creative and love every second of the process.
Drawing is a source of frustration, relaxation and happiness for me. It can either make things better or worse, depending on the situation.
It's an emotional outlet, but I'm the type that can't bring themselves to create anything at all when I'm... really feeling bad.
@Michael Pelton Oh I thought my comment would just get buried under all the others haha.
Thank you for your reply, sharing your story and opinion as well. I can see what you mean.
And I can only agree, this culture of romanticizing depression and thinking it's "trendy" is highly problematic and disrespectful towards people who are truly affected by it.
I certainly agree, i think it's really dificult if not imposible to do things when You áre depressed, however at least for me, negative emotions do help and i do think it's Bad to never use them imo, but thats just me and i think we shouldn't generalise
"Personal honesty"
Bro, I really need that right now, lmao.
lol
Depression is the lack of energy to bring yourself to do things which are necessary or wanted.
So, the answer is no. Please, take care of yourselves.
well its also a lack of emotion people with depression are usually apathetic so their enjoyment of something feels rather dull and bland
Cleverton Santos fuck you
@@YepsMr what's your problem?
0:04 The only thing that requires breaking is that teacher's neck
Depression is actually a counteractive to Art. I know from experience. when I went through a stage of depression nothing got made.
Once I finally got out of depression I finally started making art again.
honestly ignoring the fact that I got worse at anatomy, my understand of color SKYROCKETED (despite me feeling like i constantly have tunnel vision and can't really see color) somehow i'd just pick up the pencil and blankly stare at something while my hand does the work, it depends on what type of art you make, personally i find the act of taking a color/pattern that's near impossible to copy from the subconsious and trying to copy it is most fun. like those really dreamy shapes
Usually when I'm "sick", I got a lot of inspiration to make art, often picturing my feeling. It make me feel better for a little (and it's turned out pretty good most of the time). But, if for some reason I was forced to draw, It feels impossible to come up with an idea cause all I can think is nothing and I feel numb all the time.
sameee
"When you are depressed the idea of not being depressed can be horrifying because you might become a person who is dishonest" Wow, that line hit me. I have not had depression, but I think that can apply to other things too.
If I want to make good art then I need to cut my ear off.
Lmaoo
wait what
I'm 14 and this is deep
Isn't he just cut a bit of his earlobe? Or you already cut your whole ear?
is this a van gogh joke
First thing I saw was
N O
"But having come out of my depression"
Dude, I was asking myself the entire time if the voice I was hearing was actually you. The way you talk changed a lot since the last video I watched and I finally "recognized" you when you said that sentence. It explaines why this whole video felt so diffrent from the content I knew from you.
Also, I am happy for you and wish the best. Fighting depression is not easy. Let alone beating it.
When i passed 2 months of "depression" i just found out that my art was shittier
Now i actually look out for flaws, judge my work while still enjoining it and i still keep track of my friends, just a spoiler though, i'm a hobbyiest artist, so it might not work the same for ya
Whenever I’m in a “mood” I tend to lock myself in my room for a few days and just draw, and draw.
To me, art is the creation of a thinking emotional being meant to invoke emotion in another thinking emotional being. I find this definition since i find it works best to describe it.
0:10 I haver never heard of that type of sentence but, I never thought of being honest with your art, this is something completely new to me, and sometimes I do draw whatever I feel at the moment, like one example I had that school ended and I'm just bursting in happiness... And I agree with the comments here, that depression can kill your motivation, to the point where you don't want to draw...
His honesty is really what makes his videos, or should I say art, so relatable and inspiring to watch.
Today on youtube, instagram and every social media most people try to show all the fun and happy parts of their lives, leaving out some of the real and hard parts.
This channel's videos are interesting, but the personality and truth behind it is what stands out and made me subscribe.
I just want to say, I'm glad you've come out of your depression, I hope things are going well for you, and you should be proud of yourself. Good job!
I’ve wanted to be able to draw for a long, long time, I want to take ideas in my noggin and turn them into tangible things, which would probably make me happy, since I’d finally have a medium to express myself, and let me say that being in a state of constant misery may be the worst possible emotional state imaginable for someone who wants to learn to draw, since anything you draw will be just as bad as the last, you’ll never get good, etc. etc. and you watch youtube all day.
You make some of the most meaningful and thoughtful videos on CZcams. Lol I still watch "A Man Goes to the Store to Buy Milk" every once in a while and I still cry
This also brings up another question relative to emotional states of being: what is honesty?
If I feel depressed but am desperately trying to feel better, then which is the more honest version of myself, the one that’s currently depressed, or the one that I want to be inside and will likely become in the future, a happier version of myself? That future, happier version of myself was so sought after and so essential to my being that I was willing to change much of my mind and actions in order to obtain it. Is that not a more honest and genuine version of myself that it’s promise caused me to pursue it with such zeal?
I think there’s much honesty in striving to be the version of yourself you want to be, the version your soul recognizes as proper and fitting, rather than merely settling for where you find yourself currently. I see that as a pursuit of a truer, higher self. That in of itself is a form of honesty.
Just waking up from my depression nap after spending all night drawing. Thanks, dude, right on time.
I thought this was really well made, really made me think about my own opinions on Depression and Art. I never necessarily thought they *had* to be connected, but I guess I sort of assumed that all artists were sort of faulted on the inside. But just because all artists are weird doesn't mean that it's exactly their weirdness that inspires them to draw; everyone's got different reasons and they're all valid.
Thank you for talking about this. It really hit close to home for me.
Dude I just discovered your work, like 20 minutes ago. I am so so glad I did. You rock!
I remember being depressed myself. I used to work as a janitor for the schools and one thing I noticed is that I would never accept a compliment.
Usually the teachers would thank me for cleaning up their room, I would say “oh thanks” but I would more or less ignore them. I would be thinking; “They probably don’t mean it, if they did, it’s only to make you feel better so you can clean their room faster. They are only nice to you because you are doing a service for them.”
However I would always get harsh criticism from my co-workers. Hey you missed this, you forgot that, you did a shitty job. I would always immediately accept that because, they were right. I did do a bad job, I am a shitty person. I should just go home and give up on life.
Eventually I did what had to be done, I left that job. Took some time off, and am now in a career college learning networking. Making friends, and learning about what I actually want to do.
It took me years to cope with the idea of getting out of my depression and still writing. I would have loved to have this video by then, but I really hope someone can find it now useful.
We as artist have to be true to our feelings, but art has to be the expression of said feelings, and not the reason of why we are the way we are.
I don't know, I'm tired. I love y'all.
This is so well worded.
I used to be sad because my best works came from anger, pain, sadness, anxiety, overwhelm... I’d been struggling as a neurodivergent, perfectionist, people-pleaser; and so I most often truly *felt* those upsetting emotions, which was why I could express said emotions so well. I tried to make happier art, but it never turned out the way I wanted. I couldn’t figure out why...
But just as you said, art is communication, and so honest expression helps elevate one’s art by a lot (particularly the “high communication” type). It wasn’t until I *personally* started to experience more happiness, excitement, love, & comfort that my art was able to convey those feelings more beautifully. My father, who is also an artist, reminds me often about how important personal experience is to art.
I hope this reaches more people, I hope that they can express their true feelings without fear and experience more beautiful things that they’d like to share. You never know who your art will touch or how much it might mean for them to see it. Maybe you will be able to convey with your art what they could not find a way to convey with their words. 💖 Maybe you can become someone’s inspiration to pursue art or happiness or an experience for themselves.
i think any powerful emotion can drive creativity and create beautiful works, but it just so happens a lot of famous artists for one reason or another struggled with the negative ones. and over time people began to idolize the “sacrifice” that went into emotional pieces while forgetting there’s a real person behind it.
I heard about this once.
"Composing an art while being sad results to your art being deep and meaningful. "
I don't agree that being sad makes your art more meaningful than being happy, either of you are happy or sad, it depends on how much effort, will, and the using of your imagination to the fullest to create a masterpiece.
Yes but i do think theres some use to being sad
Depression and anxiety prevents me from doing art, however it was a great source behind my writing. Too bad I want to write manga influenced comic books instead of novels, and no artist is crazy enough to work on a series that's longer than a few chapters.
I disagree. I love psychological manga and wish there were more of it, and extensive ones, so i don't read the whole thing in one night.
Well if you can't find an artist, I still say you should make your comic, because while bad writing can't save good art, good writing can save bad art. I mean just look at the manga artist One. He could barely draw when he made his first webcomic, and he still became HUGELY popular, because his writing was good and he kept pushing himself regardless.
And never underestimate artists, we're always crazy enough. :P
hey mattias, i've been a subscriber for quite a long time now, and it makes me really happy to see you positively dealing with your own struggles and getting better
as I said some times before, you've really helped me in dealing with my own problems, and your channel (and the second one!!!) became safe places to me, and inspiration for my own creative stuff
it's just really good to me seeing this video, it feels like a conclusion of a episode of your life, and I hope that you continue to get better and posting this kind of stuff that really clicks with myself
I did think this for a while and nothing came out of it, I’m glad you made this video
In elementary school I had a really “edgy” phase and my art teacher was like “you’re going to be a great artist”
Little did she know that I just doodled over the base picture because I didn’t care about her “art theory”
I quit art class just as soon as it wasn’t required
I could write a huge paragraph about how the ‘depressed artist’ is romanticised, but I’ll try to write something short. I think a lot of art that people perceive as ‘created during depression’ was actually created during a more stable period, just containing the IDEAS present in a depressive episode. I can paint/write about a bad week when I feel better; and it might communicate those feelings but I couldn’t have made it if I was going through them at the time. Idk just an idea.
I love this guy, he is my new favorite animator. He's so open and personal, but not too personal that he makes people uncomfortable, instead makes me want to keep watching his content, without it mattering how often he posts content or how poor quality his art is. His art is unique in its own way. He's also veracious, but not too veracious (impulsively honest).
The videos you make are really golden in value. I look forward to what you have to say every time.
So, basically:
Draw for furries to get money.
@Probably Buddha tbh it doesn't even need to be nsfw but true. Generally it's the adults that have money.
I can’t even draw furry anymore I started drawing animals too late and only with realism lmao
@@TryinaD oh lol. It's never too late to learn though. But tbh i get it if you don't feel like it
I like how straightforward this is LMAO.
As someone who is currently undergoing depression and anxiety, and who started to write poems again exactly in this terrible phase of my life, this is very refreshing to hear... Thank you 💚. I hope you're still feeling better right now!
I gotta say, I’ve watched a lot of videos about different subjects and honestly you have communicated far better what you think in the span of 6 minutes more than any other video essay I’ve seen that goes 10, 15, or even 30 minutes long. That’s art right there. Very inspiring and thank you for such great advice. Also props on just using stick figures. Simple communication works better than any rant or ongoing monologue about any subject. Have a great day.
My art teacher in high school told me to use my depression for my art. Looking back on it, I wish she never said that because it gave me an unhealthy mindset.
Emotions are extremely correlated to arts...from sadness, anger, happyness... they give you inspiration, but depression is another thing, depression kill motivation
Thank you
Wow, Mattias I adore your videos. This one really has such a well-balanced analysis that it’s really hard to argue with.
I totally agree that art has the most meaning when it comes from an honest place, and that carries over to music, film, any kind of media really.
Your assessment that a lot of artists have this kind of reluctance to be happy because it may diminish that honesty, I think, is right on the money man.
I’ve suffered from depression but I can safely say that I’ve produced work that I’m confident in while both happy and sad. Regardless, like you said, it’s about communicating something, and I think art will always be one of - if not the best - outlets to express yourself no matter what state you’re in.
I feel like it can go either way, some people might feel like they're depression actually fuels their creativity while others might treat art as more of a treatment for depression. I can tell from personal experiences that art actually helped me deal with my depression but I didnt necessarily used it as a subject matter in my work. Either way all artists have the potential to create beautiful pieces of art no matter what their state of mind is uwu
Yeah it really depends on individual person.
This. I think it's imposible to generalise, i don't think anyone needs depression to make good set but i don't think we should allways avoid sad or negative emotions, but i think it's something that Will allways depend from person to person, i think the best advice is to SEE what works for You and only see others opinions as advice
I am no artist but I do suffer from genetic depression. I am glad people who have temporary depression are able to break free from it. This disease is a curse I wouldn't wish on anyone.
2:18 the dot gave me a sense of loneliness, the sense that you are the only one and you are the one in the end who decides what happens to you.
Thank you for putting the answer straight up, I appreciate it.
Funnily enough I really started getting into art when I was diagnosed and getting help for issues, but heres the thing:
*I was flourishing not because I was severely mentally ill, I was flourishing because I was recovering and getting through it*
That's the misconception with people, in my mind art was actually a therapeutic exercise that helped me get through it all, and that's what makes it so saddening now because one thing that helped me is now kinda stressful.
Please seek help if you are suffering from something, that shit can and will kill you.
Making art consistently when you have almost all adhd symptoms is almost impossible ,and when the depression comes ,for me at least you literally dont wanna do anything at all.
THIS. this is the thing that's been chasing me the most. The idea of becoming dishonest/self-obsessed if I'd gain more confidence/happiness.
You spoke right outta my soul, thanks man.
I hope you are feeling better and wish you are and will be able to keep making art
Anything can be use as inspiration. Strong feeling are simply better. Love, hate, depression, same shit.
I feel that they do. It's less about depression and more about your emotion. If you have that emotional energy behind your Art it will show trust me. When I was super depressed I was in my fine arts course and I would procrastinate to complete my work and it always got many compliments. I'm no professional either. Either emotions or something else. But for some reason my Artwork was noticed and I was in a class with people that were pretty solid at drawing real life things.
The common mistake is to think depression equal sadness, or negative thoughts. And that's not true.
Depression is the dulling of all emotions. And as such, it ends up dulling your art as well.
I just want to applaud you for this video. It's the best thing I've seen in a while. Thank you.
Great work as usual. This is an important subject so I'm glad you talked about it. Interesting point about honesty and pretentiousness. Maybe there's meaning in going through depression and then coming out of it in making art, but certainly not staying depressed in order to create!!
"Anger and depression and sorrow are beautiful things in a story, but they’re like poison to the filmmaker or artist. They’re like a vice grip on creativity. If you’re in that grip, you can hardly get out of bed, much less experience the flow of creativity and ideas. You must have clarity to create. You have to be able to catch ideas.” (David Lynch, Catching the Big Fish)
Melancholy, sadness, sardonic cynical mood, longing and so on actually can be inspiring.
But it all has nothing to do with depression, it is mental illness not emotion.
3:35 hmm. i suppose i do need to be more honest with my art. maybe ill make something and finish it if i do that...
Fingers crossed!♥️
You said so much much more and wider in this video than the title can say, and not only about art, tbh. I hope that _at least AT LEAST_ a few more millions of ppl will see this video. 💜 ✨
We get ideas for our artwork by our own experience in life, random thoughts and inspiration from other artists. And yes I agree with your statement there...
- Do depressed artists make better art?
- No.
Me: 😶
Being a furry is more expensive than being a artist
As someone who recently made a piece of music out of some the worst feelings/emotions I have experienced in a while, I think what stands out from it is how visceral and upfront you can be with emotions as strong as that. I couldn't find the words to really express how I was feeling accurately, and instead was able to more accurately express myself with music.
I definitely agree that the purpose of art is expression/communication, and I think the reason that depression or unhappiness gets associated more with art/artists is because it stands out more as a powerful emotion than does happiness.
I love ur art style and the message behind this 😊♥️
No in fact it’s worst,how do I know?
:experience
when the guy in the vid pointed at me, it was so realistic that i thought he was really here!
Wow- I'm not even into art really, and just- it was nice to hear the parts near the end about depression, since well, there was a point where I was depressed and miserable in the past, but now that I was able to get relatively far away from a lot of what was causing that depression and misery, I was concerned about how "oh no... I need to make sure I don't turn into those types of happy people that it seems like their source of happiness is at least either partially fake or from ignorance" and how I felt that I was just evolving back, because I seemed to not be much better than how I was before, and how some part of me felt like the misery and suffering was simply making me a more complex human being, that at least my existence had more depth and meaning then- my situation was more unique, more important, more interesting, all that kinds of things- and while it's hard to shake off that idea even now.. as well as the idea that in order to be some sort of "proper" form of happiness, I needed to walk the line of "not being too ignorant about the world but also not being fake about it, just the... right balance of both?"
Even now, I don't have it figured out, but... this, along with Hello Future Me's video about mental illnesses in storywriting (specifically the section covering the romanticization of the mental illnesses, the idea that "The broken are the more evolved", as expressed in dialogue by a film) helps me more figure this whole thing out. I don't know, this is really late, but I suppose it also helps to write this all down, so.. yeah. This was definitely cool and helpful to stumble across, I'm glad I revisited your channel :)
thank you for this video. this is something i've been pondering over in the past months as a musician and singer-songwriter, specifically trying to find a middle ground between performance anxiety and the will to get better through communicative art. though i definitely agree that depression is in no way a driving force of its own when making art, i think there's a correlation to be made as soon as you've taken a step back and are able to understand & express your own feelings in retrospect (personal honesty) instead of willfully forcing them on yourself for the cause (absolute honesty bordering dishonesty). but it's true that not all art HAS to be motivated by depression and negative emotions
tl;dr make art to try and feel better, not to stay depressed
“Depressed artists make better art!”
So first of all- no.
If pushing the boundaries of art means repeating what a caveman did with his own shit tens of thousands of years ago, yes.
I had to watch this video 3 times to hear for more messages to input and apply in my life and art...
This is a great topic as always :)
To me art is communication as well. How to overcome things, what depression feels like, what happiness feels like. To be an artist for a living is ironically both very difficult and immensely cathartic. An artist's life challenges everything they thought they knew about themselves and what they wanted from life. I think depression in this career in many ways is also almost unavoidable because you fail and fail and fail.... so much. It's a level of rejection and sacrifice that most people would just as easily choose to avoid because why would anyone do that to themselves?! Most people feel that they would crack under that. And in fact I think even many of us artists had no idea how hard it was going to be when we started, haha. But the funny thing is that, you don't crack. You are much stronger than you realize in that journey. And, it teaches you so much. Grit, perseverance, patience, peace, humility... it teaches you what's really important in life.
The depression is a part of the story yes, but there is so much after that part. The career of art, or music, or writing... because they are intensely vulnerable - you are sharing yourself every minute of every day. Your technique, your voice, your feelings and thoughts, everything will be out there for others to have an opinion on it. And that's not even touching on the money part. This is what makes creative careers hard in a way most others are not: the intense vulnerability. Why not instead just do any other job that's hard yes but not so emotionally exposing?
The thing is, that the journey is beautiful even if it's hard. It teaches us an awful lot about who we are and what we can handle. And I think therein lies the beauty and the stories which can be communicated. What does pain feel like? What does being misunderstood feel like? What does being looked down upon feel like? But then, what does love feel like? And finally, being accepted after so much rejection? When you are at rock bottom - what is still there for you in that? And you realize that there is still so much beauty in the world. In going on that journey, we end up with the empathy and compassion for suffering, joy, pain, love, so much. It's important to remember that beyond just depression there is so much more we have to offer that might provide some kind of catharsis or insight to another person. Life is pretty amazing.