For a laugh i just took a look at the hardware store for the names of house paints. Naming 50 types of off-white is am achievement by Dulux. When will we mini-painters get 'flaked almond' or 'dreamy truffle'
I used to work at a dulux paint during my undergraduate days. The funniest colour name without a doubt was “Colonial White”. It has hence been officially renamed
Just listening to you chaps talking about painting is an inspiration in itself. Many of us hobbyists are pretty lonesome dudes while we're painting - I've just spent hours putting together 15 assault intercessors and a shield captain from the Necron box. It's just lovely to spend some time with blokes who are enjoying the hobby.
Can confirm that my comment on the previous video about getting an army painted was 100% friendly fun. As painting professionals you're also a little trapped because you can't paint armies to a "that'll do standard" that us hobbiests can get away with. Because people will judge your professional offering by your hobby product.
This is so well timed. I just painted my first model since 4th ed. Started a custom Chapter (don't have a name) but started with Colour scheme. Gone for Vallejo Blue Green 70.808 (don't confuse it with blue green) as the primary colour.With a Copper Helmet and left Arm. Veterans have a Black Helmet. Similar to the Alantian Spears.
I got some chaos knights to get back into the game a few weeks ago. The plan was to speed paint them for an event so I could play. Then I discovered these madlads and I’ve been enjoying pushing myself on the painting side of things. I never made the event, and I didn’t mind because I was enjoying the hobby. Cheers guys, really inspiring.
Homebrew is the way! If you are someone who's equally spread between Painting, Playing and Lore, creating your own Chapter covers all the bases. With Skavenblight Dinge of course.
My process for creating my own chapter last year: 1. Pick a color scheme 2. Think about how to wedge them into the lore. Don’t forget to add some mystery 3. Come up with the name 4. Make a symbol that evokes the name 5. Figure out the company and squad colors, which was mostly just to more easily recognize them from several feet away during games (i.e. red company color for infernus marines).
Funnily I have been thinking about the same topic for the last couple of days before watching this. My trigger was flipping through the old Eavy Metal How to Paint Space Marines book which has a brilliant chapter about how to create your own chapter. This whole episode has been food for thought. Also James did a brilliant job on the colour scheme for your own Siege chapter!
I love rules ❤ 6:24 They hold zero weight now. All Space Marines use the same rules, except for special characters from named chapters. So if you want to take Calgar, you need to be Ultramarines. (Also the divergent chapters have extra rules, but can still use all the normal ones. Thats BT, SW, DA, and BA) 10:36 You could use them with the rules for Intercession Squad no problem. Just not the combi-weapons.
Re: the curse of needing to paint too hard for an army - I've been working on a giant necron commission, the bulk of which is three/four colors, no highlights, no shading and seeing the spectacle of all of them on a table really is a sight that makes you ignore the basic level of most of the models. I've also found that putting something slightly fancy on an easily visible surface can draw attention away from areas that aren't as well developed. On my Eldar jetbikes I tend to do a little freehand pattern on the front hull and putting a bit more effort into that will distract from the parts of the model that are just base/shade/drybrush.
When I am starting an army, and brainstorming the paint job my considerations are: Is the intended paint scheme doable with the time, tools and skill set that I have? Efficiency. After a few demo models, and even the first couple units, I am looking to cut unnecessary paint steps. The paint itself. Was that blue or green or whatever too temperamental to get the result I want? Find an alternative. THE BASE RIM COLOR
Love the advice gents. I’ve started a custom chapter myself. It originally started out as a mortifactor projects, but evolved into a Tibetan themed successor chapter. I’ve pulled themes from whites scars, space wolves and dark angels for various aspects from chapter structure to marking guides. I love seeing all these amazing OC chapters being created and it’s one of my favourite aspects of the hobby.
Deathwing vehicles are all white (Dreads/LandRaiders). Ravenwing vehicles are always black (Land Speeders/Planes). Dreadnoughts aren't all Deathwing. The first ever Lascannon/Missile launcher dreadnought in 2nd edition was famously painted Green.
I’ve painted 5000 points of ultra marines but haven’t based a single model. I’m dreading it, could you do a segment only focusing on basing? Best ideas, modernising etc etc?
Not sure if anyone will be even a little interested but there are actually 2 Blue wizards in Tolkien’s Middle Earth lore and the little information that is given about them and the area of the world that they reside in is weirdly enough one of the only bits of the world that people could easily think up their own head-canon/design their own look for the culture and people there as there is so little information about it
Another great episode guys ❤️ thank you. On the subject of water slide decals... I have a decal printer that can print white, metallic etc. I'd be happy to print you some custom siege decals for your army. Let me know 🤙🏻
I did Dark Angels for army on parade last year. Turned out about 2035 points and I’ve probably got another 2000 to go. This year I’m doing Cities of Sigmar so no progress on 40k, but James - Dark Angels is the way, the truth, and the light. Good choice!
Lads, if you have a chance could you talk about shading? Especially extremely dark or black shading? I feel like a lot of top-level painting, and the GW house style, has near-black between almost every part. It's not something I would naturally do, but maybe I'm not going dark enough? Maybe it's something that's a feature of very neat and clean competition and box art painting. Cheers!
Great timing for the podcast guys, im just starting to work on my own homebrew chapter. Found Siege with the last podcast, arbitor Ian is an interesting guy. Working my way past your backlog of podcasts. Keep up the brilliant work.
Love arbitor ian. Found your podcast b/c of last week. You missed your chance to ask him about his tyranid bulbasaur. Should be on his insta somewhere.
So unless my eyes deceive me, a good paint match for Siege Brass, would Be Pro Acryl's Light Bronze. Do that as a base coat first so you can use it later to clean up any mistakes
Loved this podcast guys. Listened to it whilst mowing the lawn! Have 800 points of built a primed space marines waiting to be painted in custom chapter colours. Quick question: I stink at painting. I get big ideas, fail, get disheartened and end up rushing to just get them finished but they look crap! What's one or two simple tips that you guys would give to a noob to make his minis look acceptable! Thanks in advance!
I am doing a semi-own chapter. I do the Hawk Lords, but I just decided to change them in color and somewhat fluff to what I like. Haters are gonna hate, I do not care :)
I appreciate you, but I wanted to share some feedback about this episode. It felt different from the spontaneous 'Essex Boys Paint' vibe that I've grown to love. This felt more like it was retrofitted around marketing requirements for a spray paint rather than focusing on the fun and creative content we're used to. Just wanted to share my thoughts, not hating at all-looking forward to more of the episodes.
Update on the 80%... its still not finished. But since then I started and completed a new warband... now moved onto another new project. Maybe one day I'll go back and finish the original one maybe not 😂
I did 3 paint schemes one was so cool but dear god it took so long to highlight everything and i was just like i cant do this will take so so long paint full army went with one i could do 70% with primer and a wash
Fantasy did not start with Tolkien. I didn't expect to hear this on a Warhammer painting podcast, but everyone should know that Tolkien did not create the fantasy genre
My suggestion to anyone that gets 90% done and then gets stuck with all the BS trinkets and whatnot. Just pick one or two contrast paints. Paint them all in those and move on. Don’t bother highlighting, shading, nothing. I often finish the armour, the skin, the metallics, and am left with all the BS which I just can’t be bothered with. Just paint it in a darker muted colour with contrast and move on.
Awesome podcast lads, always a great listen. Question for everyone really.. Is there a trick to colour theory or is it just experience? Personally am always impressed by seeing people using washes, glazes or layering with different colours to some amazing results, as if it’s some form of witchcraft. What is a good way to start finding complimentary colours and also understanding how they interact with each other when mixed?
I really like that blue-green color on the pauldrons but I’m having trouble matching the color. Does anyone have any suggestions on paint to help with that?
One thing I would like to know (because its harder than you think to find out as people tend to focus on the creative side) but how do the rules work? Do you pick an established chapter and take their rules wholesale or can you pick and chose bits and dedicated figures? If someone could help that would be great
Chapters don't have rules anymore (mostly). Basically, all Space Marines use the same units and rules, and you can just pick the ones you like and think will fit your army the most. The only exceptions are Black Templars, Dark Angles, Blood Angles, and Space Wolves, who each have several unique units that only they can take, as well as unique rules. They can still take all the regular options as well, so they just have more options.
I hate the "excuses about why we haven't been painting" segment on the last few episodes. No one cares. If you're painting great but "why Iv not been painting" isn't an interesting topic.
Strap in boys. The missing legions are 100% going to turn back up as females and dominate the 40k universe after throwing the Emperor and his Patriarchy aside like it’s nothing.
Your argument about paint names is so stupid. I don’t want my paint names to represent the colour because I doing want a pre-conception of what the colour is going to be???? That makes no sense. In what world is the paint colour being a mystery better than having the colour correctly identified?
Hey guys, I always have trouble removing the mold lines on surfaces with fine textures on them (ribbed piping for example). Do you guys have any tips on how to remove these mold lines cleanly and efficiently?
Your argument about paint names is so stupid. I don’t want my paint names to represent the colour because I doing want a pre-conception of what the colour is going to be???? That makes no sense. In what world is the paint colour being a mystery better than having the colour correctly identified?
For a laugh i just took a look at the hardware store for the names of house paints. Naming 50 types of off-white is am achievement by Dulux. When will we mini-painters get 'flaked almond' or 'dreamy truffle'
I used to work at a dulux paint during my undergraduate days.
The funniest colour name without a doubt was “Colonial White”.
It has hence been officially renamed
oh yes interior paint colors are wild.
@@simonbirch5726 NO THEY DID NOT 🤣🤣🤣
Those blood angels would look epic with a black base rim
Just listening to you chaps talking about painting is an inspiration in itself. Many of us hobbyists are pretty lonesome dudes while we're painting - I've just spent hours putting together 15 assault intercessors and a shield captain from the Necron box. It's just lovely to spend some time with blokes who are enjoying the hobby.
Y'all should definitely get Tommie Soule on. I think you all would have a great chat
Can confirm that my comment on the previous video about getting an army painted was 100% friendly fun. As painting professionals you're also a little trapped because you can't paint armies to a "that'll do standard" that us hobbiests can get away with. Because people will judge your professional offering by your hobby product.
How about stickers of everyone at Siege with a Panini style album to collect them in?
You guys should totally get Duncan Rhodes on the podcast, I bet he’d be a great guest!
This is so well timed. I just painted my first model since 4th ed. Started a custom Chapter (don't have a name) but started with Colour scheme. Gone for Vallejo Blue Green 70.808 (don't confuse it with blue green) as the primary colour.With a Copper Helmet and left Arm. Veterans have a Black Helmet. Similar to the Alantian Spears.
I am constantly finding excuses to use Vallejo Blue Green, just an amazing colour.
That scheme sounds 👨🍳👌
@@pardoe17789 I know I want to use it for everything, as I have Leviathan I am trying not to do a twist on Hive Fleet Behemoth using it.
I got some chaos knights to get back into the game a few weeks ago. The plan was to speed paint them for an event so I could play.
Then I discovered these madlads and I’ve been enjoying pushing myself on the painting side of things. I never made the event, and I didn’t mind because I was enjoying the hobby.
Cheers guys, really inspiring.
Homebrew is the way! If you are someone who's equally spread between Painting, Playing and Lore, creating your own Chapter covers all the bases. With Skavenblight Dinge of course.
My process for creating my own chapter last year:
1. Pick a color scheme
2. Think about how to wedge them into the lore. Don’t forget to add some mystery
3. Come up with the name
4. Make a symbol that evokes the name
5. Figure out the company and squad colors, which was mostly just to more easily recognize them from several feet away during games (i.e. red company color for infernus marines).
Love my onyx light just having a great light source makes me want to paint a lot longer and no longer getting eye strain cheers lads 👍 👌
Funnily I have been thinking about the same topic for the last couple of days before watching this. My trigger was flipping through the old Eavy Metal How to Paint Space Marines book which has a brilliant chapter about how to create your own chapter. This whole episode has been food for thought. Also James did a brilliant job on the colour scheme for your own Siege chapter!
I love rules ❤
6:24 They hold zero weight now. All Space Marines use the same rules, except for special characters from named chapters. So if you want to take Calgar, you need to be Ultramarines. (Also the divergent chapters have extra rules, but can still use all the normal ones. Thats BT, SW, DA, and BA)
10:36 You could use them with the rules for Intercession Squad no problem. Just not the combi-weapons.
Love the idea of no electronic devices out when painting... the only problem is trying to do that and follow the Siege patreon guides 😂
Not hobby related but just to say Joe is looking great! Gym and hard work defo paying off!
Re: the curse of needing to paint too hard for an army - I've been working on a giant necron commission, the bulk of which is three/four colors, no highlights, no shading and seeing the spectacle of all of them on a table really is a sight that makes you ignore the basic level of most of the models.
I've also found that putting something slightly fancy on an easily visible surface can draw attention away from areas that aren't as well developed. On my Eldar jetbikes I tend to do a little freehand pattern on the front hull and putting a bit more effort into that will distract from the parts of the model that are just base/shade/drybrush.
What an awesome idea! Maybe guests could come with character names and back stories for you to add to the army?
When I am starting an army, and brainstorming the paint job my considerations are:
Is the intended paint scheme doable with the time, tools and skill set that I have?
Efficiency. After a few demo models, and even the first couple units, I am looking to cut unnecessary paint steps.
The paint itself. Was that blue or green or whatever too temperamental to get the result I want? Find an alternative.
THE BASE RIM COLOR
Love the advice gents.
I’ve started a custom chapter myself. It originally started out as a mortifactor projects, but evolved into a Tibetan themed successor chapter. I’ve pulled themes from whites scars, space wolves and dark angels for various aspects from chapter structure to marking guides.
I love seeing all these amazing OC chapters being created and it’s one of my favourite aspects of the hobby.
Deathwing vehicles are all white (Dreads/LandRaiders). Ravenwing vehicles are always black (Land Speeders/Planes). Dreadnoughts aren't all Deathwing. The first ever Lascannon/Missile launcher dreadnought in 2nd edition was famously painted Green.
I'm now imagining James chasing cheese down a hill unable to stop, just tumbling end over end!!
Did you see PainterTovey's diorama of the Old World Cheese run? Genius!
@@charliekirkpatrick695 yeah, it brilliant!
I mean the level of those blood angel models is pretty incredible, if you can maintain that over a whole army.... wow 👏
I’ve painted 5000 points of ultra marines but haven’t based a single model. I’m dreading it, could you do a segment only focusing on basing? Best ideas, modernising etc etc?
Not sure if anyone will be even a little interested but there are actually 2 Blue wizards in Tolkien’s Middle Earth lore and the little information that is given about them and the area of the world that they reside in is weirdly enough one of the only bits of the world that people could easily think up their own head-canon/design their own look for the culture and people there as there is so little information about it
The white dwarf chapter Tome Keepers changes the aquilla as per company
Opportunity for a great meme there, james stating 'I love dark angels....... and blood angels' 😊
Bit of creative editing.
Another great episode guys ❤️ thank you. On the subject of water slide decals... I have a decal printer that can print white, metallic etc. I'd be happy to print you some custom siege decals for your army. Let me know 🤙🏻
The “Siege Armor” spray would look AMAZING worked within a DEATHWING scheme!
Holy shit that test model is lovely.. the green works really well with that light brass colour
I did Dark Angels for army on parade last year. Turned out about 2035 points and I’ve probably got another 2000 to go. This year I’m doing Cities of Sigmar so no progress on 40k, but James - Dark Angels is the way, the truth, and the light. Good choice!
Lads, if you have a chance could you talk about shading? Especially extremely dark or black shading? I feel like a lot of top-level painting, and the GW house style, has near-black between almost every part. It's not something I would naturally do, but maybe I'm not going dark enough? Maybe it's something that's a feature of very neat and clean competition and box art painting. Cheers!
Great timing for the podcast guys, im just starting to work on my own homebrew chapter. Found Siege with the last podcast, arbitor Ian is an interesting guy. Working my way past your backlog of podcasts. Keep up the brilliant work.
I've decided to help Joe out by painting some dark angels in solidarity.
Although it's probably his fault they are called the Unforgiven.
Love arbitor ian. Found your podcast b/c of last week. You missed your chance to ask him about his tyranid bulbasaur. Should be on his insta somewhere.
Great podcast once again
So unless my eyes deceive me, a good paint match for Siege Brass, would Be Pro Acryl's Light Bronze. Do that as a base coat first so you can use it later to clean up any mistakes
Loved this podcast guys. Listened to it whilst mowing the lawn! Have 800 points of built a primed space marines waiting to be painted in custom chapter colours. Quick question: I stink at painting. I get big ideas, fail, get disheartened and end up rushing to just get them finished but they look crap! What's one or two simple tips that you guys would give to a noob to make his minis look acceptable! Thanks in advance!
Thanks for clarifying the Vallejo Paint names. Still dont agree with you, but i kind of understand. I think
Dudes great show, and congrats on the mini. It's looking awesome 🎉
I am doing a semi-own chapter. I do the Hawk Lords, but I just decided to change them in color and somewhat fluff to what I like. Haters are gonna hate, I do not care :)
I appreciate you, but I wanted to share some feedback about this episode. It felt different from the spontaneous 'Essex Boys Paint' vibe that I've grown to love. This felt more like it was retrofitted around marketing requirements for a spray paint rather than focusing on the fun and creative content we're used to. Just wanted to share my thoughts, not hating at all-looking forward to more of the episodes.
Happy almost-anniversary, lads!
Update on the 80%... its still not finished. But since then I started and completed a new warband... now moved onto another new project. Maybe one day I'll go back and finish the original one maybe not 😂
I'm in the same boat
I did 3 paint schemes one was so cool but dear god it took so long to highlight everything and i was just like i cant do this will take so so long paint full army went with one i could do 70% with primer and a wash
Fantasy did not start with Tolkien. I didn't expect to hear this on a Warhammer painting podcast, but everyone should know that Tolkien did not create the fantasy genre
From a literature history perspective it's perfectly fair to say Tolkien shaped the fantasy genre as we know it.
Well done lads! love the show!
My suggestion to anyone that gets 90% done and then gets stuck with all the BS trinkets and whatnot.
Just pick one or two contrast paints. Paint them all in those and move on. Don’t bother highlighting, shading, nothing.
I often finish the armour, the skin, the metallics, and am left with all the BS which I just can’t be bothered with.
Just paint it in a darker muted colour with contrast and move on.
Awesome podcast lads, always a great listen.
Question for everyone really.. Is there a trick to colour theory or is it just experience? Personally am always impressed by seeing people using washes, glazes or layering with different colours to some amazing results, as if it’s some form of witchcraft. What is a good way to start finding complimentary colours and also understanding how they interact with each other when mixed?
Look up "Roman Lappat Miniature Art" - and check out his color theory series.
Amazing stuff, I cannot recommend it enough!
I'm just throwing this out there.
But if this months hashtag to paint a model isn't
Catachan Junegle fighters.
There's something wrong with the world.
I really like that blue-green color on the pauldrons but I’m having trouble matching the color. Does anyone have any suggestions on paint to help with that?
One thing I would like to know (because its harder than you think to find out as people tend to focus on the creative side) but how do the rules work? Do you pick an established chapter and take their rules wholesale or can you pick and chose bits and dedicated figures? If someone could help that would be great
Chapters don't have rules anymore (mostly). Basically, all Space Marines use the same units and rules, and you can just pick the ones you like and think will fit your army the most.
The only exceptions are Black Templars, Dark Angles, Blood Angles, and Space Wolves, who each have several unique units that only they can take, as well as unique rules. They can still take all the regular options as well, so they just have more options.
What is SANGUTS?
I hate the "excuses about why we haven't been painting" segment on the last few episodes. No one cares. If you're painting great but "why Iv not been painting" isn't an interesting topic.
Strap in boys. The missing legions are 100% going to turn back up as females and dominate the 40k universe after throwing the Emperor and his Patriarchy aside like it’s nothing.
Your argument about paint names is so stupid.
I don’t want my paint names to represent the colour because I doing want a pre-conception of what the colour is going to be????
That makes no sense.
In what world is the paint colour being a mystery better than having the colour correctly identified?
Hey guys, I always have trouble removing the mold lines on surfaces with fine textures on them (ribbed piping for example). Do you guys have any tips on how to remove these mold lines cleanly and efficiently?
Your argument about paint names is so stupid.
I don’t want my paint names to represent the colour because I doing want a pre-conception of what the colour is going to be????
That makes no sense.
In what world is the paint colour being a mystery better than having the colour correctly identified?