SPACE MARINES colour scheme debate gets *HEATED*
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- Paint Perspective Podcast 35, featuring... our experiences painting Eldar characters for this month’s community painting challenge!
Expect to learn about our personal process for painting miniatures, our struggles, obstacles and how we overcame them, as well as spotlighting submissions from the community.
Also in this episode; James and Joe debate over what George should pick for his next Space Marines colour scheme, we discuss the new Warhammer miniatures revealed at LVO, respond our listeners comments, question of the week, and of course share a hobby hack!
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0:15:44 The HEATED debate
0:32:06 Airbrush primer vs rattle can primer
0:36:08 Primer cure time
0:37:30 Painting with your kids
0:38:07 Crimes against painting
0:39:29 The big light stays off
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Great work on the Eldar guys, they all look awesome!
Thanks Amy!
For the airbrush primer thing. Ive noticed a difference in it coming off when using airbrush thinner/flow improver. I believe air brush primers are designed to just be used without additives. Add them and the primer breaks down. So crank that air pressure and prime away.
I kind of agree but some stuff can be thinned adequately with just plain old water, even primer.
I never spray at more than 28psi and if I ass anything but water I use a mixture of maybe 3 parts water 1 part thinner and I use old school thinner (doesn't contain flow improver), which as a solvent helps primer dry faster when it's aerosolised.
Flow improver 100% is not for use with primers.
You want your Primer to stick to detail tight and dry fast. Flow improver that acts like a retarder & lets primer stay wet and flow on the surface instead.
Nah, just do a second coat. It will still be thinner than a rattle can and won’t obscure the detail.
I recently discovered that too, instead of thinning with thinner/flow aid, I used filtered water to thin it down and it was much more durable. Must be the chemical composition of the thinner/flow aid that affects the primer.
Thanks for the mention on my Alaitoc Guardians! Great show as always
Thanks for the shout-out on the Falcon! I’ll have to see if there’s anything Chaos-y on my shelves.
Re priming - some products absolutely need curing time. I do a lot of priming with acrylic inks and set them aside for a day or two, otherwise the base zenithal will tear if you use a brush on it. You can also just do the priming and do a light coat of airbrush varnish over it.
When it comes to airbrush primer I get better results when I degrease the models prior to priming with IPA, I know its adding an extra step but I paid a fortune for my airbrush so i'm bloody well going to use it!
Another winner of a chat that easily entertains me during a few hours at the painting table.
Having seen Instagram before this video I had to chuckle at how well "I'm not doing the shoulder pad rims black" aged 😂.
And totally agree on the painting of tufts in the same logic as we paint our rocks to look like rocks but at the right scale. I was at Warhammer World the other day and there was a double diorama of Ironjawz Vs Sylvaneth and one cabinet didn't look right. It was due to the one side having bare rocks, pebbles and tree branches and without them being painted it broke the immersion. The other side had painted textures and even scale leaves to sell the illusion and looked so much better.
Great work by the community on Biel-Tanuary. Looking forward to seeing what happens in Fabiuary.
Just to add, thank you George, Ive been hunting for the 'perfect' dropper bottle, after many trial an errors, I now have Vallejo 70095!. I also want to thank the rest of the team for some great tips and advice, highlights being wet pallet prep (no TX Max for me) and learning better brush control by not trying to do everything in sub assembles!
Never really been an Eldar fan myself but guys these all look awesome, Especially Georges white an inspiration for future colour schemes
Paint a Blood Angel and then go back and paint another Dark Angel and then keep repeating that for every model until you have a full army of both.
great episode, quality banter and discussion as well
These Podcasts are so good, I love the discussions and hot takes. Keep up the great work. +1 for Black base rims, and TSA 🙂
The type of light bulb can make huge a different in how color is perceived. A warmer more 'yellow' light or a colder 'blue' makes a difference.
The Beast lover I would choose is Cecilia Reyes. She would be the easiest to dress up the model as. They were eventually married and had kids in "The End" spinoff. She had pretty neat forcefield abilities.
Love the podcast guys, full of helpful tips and tricks, as part of the new year i'm looking at entering my first painting competition this year, could you give me some advice for the competition, varnish/no varnish are fancy plinths required? Please help!
I tried no ambient room light at home and yeah, it felt like I had batman over my shoulders about to scream at me and slam my face into my model for getting trim paint on a panel.
Dark Angels have their primarch and he’s one of, if not the, best miniatures of all time. Dark Angels for sure.
Loved the debate! Which magnifiers would you recommend please?
1:01:00 one of the codexes outline that the Craftworld colours are, usually, flipped on the psyker units.
Part of the reason i enjoy my dark angels army is that i can mix and match if i domnt wanna paint green today i can do some termies or bike in a diff scheme
Hi guys! I lvoe your content and how you paint minis, truly an incredible level of both skill and details!!
In another unrelated note, can I ask what's the epic song you use on some of your reels? Or how can I find the soundtracks you use in general, just for random listening! Thanks!! :)
Judging from the heat, sounds like you're better off doing Imperial Fists...
great podcast as always chaps. I have a question for you. If you were doing a big centre piece character like a primarch for a legion with a coloured metallic scheme, like alpha legion. How would you go about doing the armour to push it further than the rest of your dudes?
Beast and Jean Grey have a love story in some of the comics
Adding my tuppence to the conversation, I have been a BA lover since the late 80's but if your doing it for the painting then you have to go for the DA as the new sculptures are fantastic 🎨🎨
That January was the fastest January ever, convinced calling it Bieltanuary has sped up this normally slow month
Clearly James is a man of culture, BAs with black trim is the real look!
Do Dark Angels but for Jump Assault and Termies, have Blood Angel reinforcements like in the recent lore
I love the passion of the debate! Maybe i'm off base, but it makes me wish unit/company/ rank colors for non-spare marine armies were more clear. Like yea each csm warband has a color scheme but it's harder to find the minor details that DA have (like in their terminators).
Nightshift allways paints his grass tufts and flock on his tank dioramas, you should check him out as he does amazing work and uses some different techniques to war gamers.
"Big light" is totally a thing in eastern Canada, but we are culturally the closest to the uk in north america
Maybe its have been posted somewhere that I don't know of, but it would be great to see how the painting journal is organized. I tried starting one, then next thing i know its 3 pages long for a single unit. =/
We are planning on touching on this soon, you haven’t missed anything!
@@SiegeStudios idea! Siege studio painting journal with the logo on the cover?
👀 🤐
ack-chu-lee its a hand of the archon model *pushes up glasses*
beast and mystique in the movies i think liked each other because they were blue
Why doesn’t George do a Dark Angels army for himself, then help James by painting a unit for his Blood Angels when their range refresh comes out. We all know he’s gonna need the whole team for there to be any chance for him to finish an army.
Looking forward to you both playing your newly completed armies against each other in 2037.
That white robe on eldar model is unbelievable.
Might be a stupid question, but i dont feel like going trough the video. What's the # for February again, cause im painting a night lords daemon prince that i think will turn out great
#FebiusBile!
1st founding I Go Iron Hands I've not in over 5 years found any other army more fun to kitbash and paint.
I mean u can mount there guns to there back pack and have wild bionic everywhere and everyone just gets it.
Blood Angels are clearly the best angels. In regards to airbrush primer vs rattle can primer, with an airbrush you are controlling the paint flow/air pressure with can affect the bonding properties of the paint as its hitting the surface....too much air and its too dry by the time it hits the surface and its not going to bond to the plastic. Rattle cans are a grab and go, simplified solution to airbrushes. I can also rattle can prime a 2k point army in a lot shorter period of time than with an airbrush.
Its the animation and its coming a book for callis and toll, the silver shard. And the beast in xmen has a thing for mystice when he is young. And not painted tuffs on a base dont look right, everything needs to get paint to incoporate it with the rest, so i always paint my tuffs
The best chapter is obviously White Scars. Distinctive models, classic colour scheme, excellent lore and the books are great. And Jaghatai. What a guy.
Only drawback: you're painting white. Lots of white. And red. But mainly white. Whiiiite...
Eh, just collect Raven Guard.
The guy with the poofy hair. Always smiling. Hitting the trees before the vid ??
I'm doing my Death wing more of a plain white. Controversial?
Sad my Yncarne didnt make it onto the showcase! He's still Aeldari!! :(
We included everything we could find on the hashtags and discord! We may have recorded before you did unfortunately - did you post it some time in the last few days?
It’s all good! Yes posted on the 25th. George even gave it a ❤. It’s a blue /teal model! I’ll try again next month.
That Yncarne was really pretty!
Just wanna throw my hat into the ring with blood angels vs dark angels. White Scars forever. Same colour across the army, primarch to return and the chapter had traitors in the horus heresy and just got rid of them instantly instead of spending 10000 years crying about it while keeping it a secret. MOTOR BIKES BABY
I'm confused about dude saying that using airbrush primer gives him a "way smoother and more detailed mini." Unpainted plastic isn't even "way smoother or more detailed" than a mini that's been primed with a can, so is the airbrush adding detail somehow? Where does it come from?
Of course, at the end of the day, you don't actually have to prime plastic., it's completely optional.