Your explanations are always so clear, with concise key points, making it easy to understand the expected performance of each aircraft. It's a real lifesaver! love your videos!
Thanks for adding the info and thoughts into this video! Im a full on fpv nerd so i really appreciate all the thoughts and the thorough review. Thanks man!
Thank you very much for the words, mate! I was on the fence about the video being too long but I feel like, especially with something this expensive, the more information the better! Glad it sounds like you agree : ) thanks again
I got into FPV about a month ago, right around when this thing became available. I bought it as my first drone and was NOT disappointed. I can speak for the durability of the LED ducts and say they are a solid 8/10. I have had about 10-15 light crashes, and 3 bad crashes with one EXTREME crash where I accidentally did a full send into concrete while flying line of sight. I currently have a new prop guard on the way, but still have the current one connected with only one of four mounting points completely broken off the frame and another cracked. I’d also highly recommend upgrading the antenna right off the bat if you’re using analog. The stock wire antenna it terrible. Get yourself a good lollipop antenna and you’ll see more than double the performance.
Great review Moe! That does look like a sexy little whoop! No way it would survive in the desert though. We only crash hard out here 😅🏜️🌵🌴🪨. We gotta hang in Phoenix when you're here!
Lol I’d love to see a durability test on a CACTUS - dude absolutely gotta meet up. I’m staying in the WHOOP HAUS and will be in and out whooptopia but I’m not racing. 100% we need to meet up and fly. Message me on discord man we can exchange some contact info!
That little glare you start talking about at 6:00 is night unavoidable. I have jammed that lil lens down and every time I fly it works its way forward at some point. 4 minutes is def impressive. The Flywoo 750mah I have BARELY last 2 minutes. I think i fly more slowly and reserved than you were in this video but I also fly in the mountain canyons and my packs could be sapped by the frigid air. Since you were mentioning durability at about 10:00 i did plug a tree while doing orbits and landed in snow. Since it was BNF from the manufacturer, it is the only rig I have that is not conformal coated. The quad shut down the two right motors and would not fly until completely dry. After hitting the tree at average orbit speed there was no damage. I like it so far. This is a great review video right here. I am going to dremel that camera mount because I need much more cam angle.
Interesting information - thank you for sharing. TBH I usually fly with an ND8 filter on and if its too dark I will fly it with no protection. But I didnt know we couldnt avoid that glare. Also good to know about the durability. I guess the nice part is we can just swap out the ducts separately which is a nice build design
I crashed mine a bunch yesterday (Walksnail version) and it felt like the most durable quad I own, honestly) the frame is light and has a lot of flex. Not stiff like the ducts on a mob or pico.
Interesting - appreciate the perspective. I still haven’t had any crashes but fingers crossed it’s fine when I do! I just assumed since were over 100gs and the ducts have no spoke support whatsoever they would crack like an egg 😂
Thank you very much and yes for sure ! Next video is going to be a custom 3” walksnail build on a SUB250gFPV frame 😏. Any specific builds you’re interested in? Maybe I’ll throw it on the list !
@@MoeFPV man I really enjoy your toothpick build vids with little editing. Raw and uncut haha. Just one opinion though, be interesting to see others responses. Thanks!
@@cold-frontin_penguin7902 I appreciate the feedback, sincerely. Trying to figure out what works best and what people like to see ! I do enjoy the build videos so that would be a win for me. Thanks again
I had this drone (lost it in the ocean by now haha) but i love this drone and I will buy it again. I watched this video before buying, so I bought a bunch of extra ducts since it seemed fragile. but I crashed it a bunch and I neve rhad to replace it. What I did notice was a lot more fragile then expected was the o3 mount on the bottom of the drone. It was breaking and It was not easily available to buy online
Well done review. Very helpful. I really like/want this drone. I'm kind of newish, love to fly, I'm shit at knowing how to build. Will this work with my DJI fpv controller 2? Will I have to do any soldering to get it to work? Thanks!
Interesting question - TBH i did not notice much of a difference. Both are somewhat loud, especially overhead. For example, those surfers in the opening cinematic looked up at it despite the waves crashing LOL maybe it was just the LEDs. Thank you for the kind words : )
I was in the same boat tbh - I ended up going with the V2 goggles because I found them off ebay for $220 bucks compared to the goggles 2 at over $600 . I mainly wanted the 03 for the onboard 4k and wasn't really concerned with the quality of the goggle feed. Id say, if you can find them cheap, V2 still looks great in the goggles and you get that CRISP O3 4k DVR regardless
I don't geht why a 45mm prop or 2" prop O3 whoop. The pavo 16 was the pioneer only to acieve sub100g for the drone law in Japan. Now all the others are coming making light 2" O3 whoops. I think a light 2.5" O3 cinewhoop would fly much better. A 2.5" O3 whoop with an all up weight of ~ 160g would be awesome. The ones out now are more like 240g. Try the gemfan 2040 on the mobula8. Much better imo
In the US, the magic number for us (currently) is 250g. I think the appeal of these 2s 2" Micro Cinewhoops are really just the formfactor (how small can we make a cinewhoop and still have good performance?). So far that answer seems to be 85mm. Although I agree with you in regard to the 100g limit, especially in Japan. I should mentioned the Pavo Pico achieved this in my video because that is certainly a benefit of it. I was planning a trip there and was looking for exactly that sub100g platform. In that perspective, if we are going over the 100g limit, why not increase the prop size and get even better performance? I think that the best option for this would be a ductless drone - i think in the near future we will see a 2" sub 100g 03 micro with plenty of performance - i hope to show it on this channel ;) I will definitely try out those gemfan 2040s you recommended though - thank you very much!
Brother.. I was NOT expecting it to be that agile. Until now I kept wondering what everyone's fascination was with it. I just assumed it would fly like a pig. I am extremely impressed. I have to build a naked o3 something now. Not sure what. Is it out of line to think that a naked o3 would be decent on a 3" toothpick? Can't wait to see what people use this setup for.
Sorry i missed this, Mike! I was really fiending for a TP3 style toothpick with a naked O3 in it after flying this.. The problem with this system is that it is a dual board setup - if we put it on a toothpick design we would have a really tall stack with the cam on top.. BUT i think we will be seeing a more capable 2s 2" 03 micro in the near future - maybe even on this channel 👀👀
if i buy this and i put my own naked 03 in it will i need to alter any of the PID's to get the same flight characteristic's same smooth flight as with the full 03 version or will it fly just fine if not better if i just put the naked 03 in and go fly?
This version IS the one with the naked 03 - do you mean if you bought just the frame kit? Either way, you can just apply the specific CLI from flywoos website for the version you build - in this case, if you bought the frame kit and installed the naked 03, you can just apply that CLI. Although I assume they didn’t change the tune between the regular 03 version and the naked 03
@@MoeFPV thanks man, i have just bought the pavo20 but the naked 03 doesnt fit insdie the mount does it. would you say the pavo20 even needs a naked 03 for better freestyle flights hence its 3s power? but yeah i am also thinking of buying the flylens85 as a cruiser/indoor flyer and putting the naked 03 in that or would you say im just wasting my money since i already have a small ducted drone? is the pavo20 good for everything that the flylens 85 naked would be? i know the flylens has less jello but thats not something im really bothered about tbh i just want a small woop that can be flown indoors for slow flights and also fast/freestyle flights do do you see any point in getting the flylens if i already have the pavo20?
What’s up MR meaty ! I can tell you the analog mob 8 is great and shares none of the issues I have with the O3 mob 8. I would say the extra price and build configuration of the fly lens would not be better suited to freestyle like the mob 8 is. The mob 8 format is definitely a freestyle quad first O3 cinewhoop second. Fly lens was designed as a cinewhoop from jump IMO
Good to know. I LOVE my analog mob8 but it felt wonky when I strapped my thumb cam to it. Thinking analog flylens might be good for a thumb cam cinewhoop!
You should be able to carry a naked gopro with this setup as long as they make the appropriate mounts for it. Youll get considerably less performance out of it and flight time - might be best to go analog if youre using an external cam
@@MoeFPVthanks ! I can print one mount, I’d use it for cinematic shots eventually. I’m concern about space and battery , seems all really tight to mount a naked but if It can handle I will Try ! I’m using walksnail I hope to be light enough to balance the weight a little . That would be perfect instead of bigger and louder tinywhoops out there
This is what I’ve found to be the best O3 settings: 4k 60fps, EIS off, Wide, 1/60-1/120 shutter speed, Auto ISO (ideally staying 100-400), D-Cinelike color to get 10-bit, locked white balance, Sharpness -2, Denoising -2. Stabilization: Gyroflow using 0.25 smoothness and dynamic zooming speed of 4 seconds.
hello. I was wondering about the flight time of your o3 lite 85. In this video it only flew for 4 minutes with a 1000mah battery. Here is the video: czcams.com/video/RK5-krzHG2M/video.htmlsi=x4I6SoT4yriUPssJ My 85 is coming with 10 1000 batteries. I am confused.
Unfortunately, I have not had a chance to test the 1000mah, only the 720s, in which I got about 4:45 which was the absolute longest i was able to push it. Why the 1000mah is similar could be a few different factors such as the cell quality or the additional weight of the larger battery cancels out the additional MAH. I would say the 1000mah should still give you a good flight experience but 4-5 min is about the max time you will get
Your explanations are always so clear, with concise key points, making it easy to understand the expected performance of each aircraft. It's a real lifesaver! love your videos!
Thank you very much - i appreciate the words. I was worried this was too long and would put people off so thanks again for the comment !
Thanks for adding the info and thoughts into this video! Im a full on fpv nerd so i really appreciate all the thoughts and the thorough review. Thanks man!
Thank you very much for the words, mate! I was on the fence about the video being too long but I feel like, especially with something this expensive, the more information the better! Glad it sounds like you agree : ) thanks again
I’m really loving these video reviews
Thank you very much! More coming soon : )
Great video Moe! Really informative and fun to watch! 👌🏻
thanks chacha!
Nice review!
I got into FPV about a month ago, right around when this thing became available. I bought it as my first drone and was NOT disappointed. I can speak for the durability of the LED ducts and say they are a solid 8/10. I have had about 10-15 light crashes, and 3 bad crashes with one EXTREME crash where I accidentally did a full send into concrete while flying line of sight. I currently have a new prop guard on the way, but still have the current one connected with only one of four mounting points completely broken off the frame and another cracked. I’d also highly recommend upgrading the antenna right off the bat if you’re using analog. The stock wire antenna it terrible. Get yourself a good lollipop antenna and you’ll see more than double the performance.
Between the Flylens 85 and the Mobula 8, which one is more silent and which one is better for indoors?
Great work my friend 🤙
Great review dawg!
Appreciate it kev !
Dope video Moe!
Much appreciated, Hemmingson !
Great review Moe! That does look like a sexy little whoop! No way it would survive in the desert though. We only crash hard out here 😅🏜️🌵🌴🪨. We gotta hang in Phoenix when you're here!
Lol I’d love to see a durability test on a CACTUS - dude absolutely gotta meet up. I’m staying in the WHOOP HAUS and will be in and out whooptopia but I’m not racing. 100% we need to meet up and fly. Message me on discord man we can exchange some contact info!
That little glare you start talking about at 6:00 is night unavoidable. I have jammed that lil lens down and every time I fly it works its way forward at some point. 4 minutes is def impressive. The Flywoo 750mah I have BARELY last 2 minutes. I think i fly more slowly and reserved than you were in this video but I also fly in the mountain canyons and my packs could be sapped by the frigid air.
Since you were mentioning durability at about 10:00 i did plug a tree while doing orbits and landed in snow. Since it was BNF from the manufacturer, it is the only rig I have that is not conformal coated. The quad shut down the two right motors and would not fly until completely dry. After hitting the tree at average orbit speed there was no damage. I like it so far.
This is a great review video right here. I am going to dremel that camera mount because I need much more cam angle.
Interesting information - thank you for sharing. TBH I usually fly with an ND8 filter on and if its too dark I will fly it with no protection. But I didnt know we couldnt avoid that glare.
Also good to know about the durability. I guess the nice part is we can just swap out the ducts separately which is a nice build design
I crashed mine a bunch yesterday (Walksnail version) and it felt like the most durable quad I own, honestly) the frame is light and has a lot of flex. Not stiff like the ducts on a mob or pico.
Interesting - appreciate the perspective. I still haven’t had any crashes but fingers crossed it’s fine when I do! I just assumed since were over 100gs and the ducts have no spoke support whatsoever they would crack like an egg 😂
Great review Moe! Very thorough!
I need an O3 quad but which one will it be 😉
Thanks very much Tom ! I’m only looking forward to one O3 at this point 🦇
@@MoeFPV 👀
Stoked to see a new vid from ya. Any build vids in the future?!
Thank you very much and yes for sure ! Next video is going to be a custom 3” walksnail build on a SUB250gFPV frame 😏. Any specific builds you’re interested in? Maybe I’ll throw it on the list !
@@MoeFPV man I really enjoy your toothpick build vids with little editing. Raw and uncut haha. Just one opinion though, be interesting to see others responses. Thanks!
@@cold-frontin_penguin7902 I appreciate the feedback, sincerely. Trying to figure out what works best and what people like to see ! I do enjoy the build videos so that would be a win for me. Thanks again
@@MoeFPV My pleasure kind sir
I had this drone (lost it in the ocean by now haha) but i love this drone and I will buy it again. I watched this video before buying, so I bought a bunch of extra ducts since it seemed fragile. but I crashed it a bunch and I neve rhad to replace it. What I did notice was a lot more fragile then expected was the o3 mount on the bottom of the drone. It was breaking and It was not easily available to buy online
bro! Did you changed ypu PIDs? My same dron can not do power loop, like a very unpower flyer just for slow cinimatic.... thanks!
Hi, in Flywoo FlyLens 85 2S BNF Drone Kit it's possible to mount a Caddx Nebula Pro Vista Kit FPV digital HD? Thanks
Well done review. Very helpful. I really like/want this drone. I'm kind of newish, love to fly, I'm shit at knowing how to build. Will this work with my DJI fpv controller 2? Will I have to do any soldering to get it to work? Thanks!
Buenos videos bro..
Thank you very much!
👍💪✌️
I went NBD, and then stripped it to a mobigital by quad sensei. A bit more work to build but it sits at about 50g no battery
Which controller are you using to fly in this video? Thanks!
This save O3 on the buttom? How u can handle that?
Great video, dude! Did you notice much difference in noise between the mob8 and flylens? Really appreciate your reviews!!
Interesting question - TBH i did not notice much of a difference. Both are somewhat loud, especially overhead. For example, those surfers in the opening cinematic looked up at it despite the waves crashing LOL maybe it was just the LEDs. Thank you for the kind words : )
got the frame set only. will put regular o3 in it but i will use 1202.5 motors lol.. we'll see what happens :D
Flylens 85 vs Pico 20? Whats would be the best cinewhoop? Pros snd cons?
Super cool. I gotta say, you made me wanna get one! But coming from strictly analog, what would be the better choice, dji g2 or v2 goggles?
I was in the same boat tbh - I ended up going with the V2 goggles because I found them off ebay for $220 bucks compared to the goggles 2 at over $600 . I mainly wanted the 03 for the onboard 4k and wasn't really concerned with the quality of the goggle feed. Id say, if you can find them cheap, V2 still looks great in the goggles and you get that CRISP O3 4k DVR regardless
I don't geht why a 45mm prop or 2" prop O3 whoop.
The pavo 16 was the pioneer only to acieve sub100g for the drone law in Japan.
Now all the others are coming making light 2" O3 whoops.
I think a light 2.5" O3 cinewhoop would fly much better. A 2.5" O3 whoop with an all up weight of ~ 160g would be awesome. The ones out now are more like 240g.
Try the gemfan 2040 on the mobula8. Much better imo
In the US, the magic number for us (currently) is 250g. I think the appeal of these 2s 2" Micro Cinewhoops are really just the formfactor (how small can we make a cinewhoop and still have good performance?). So far that answer seems to be 85mm.
Although I agree with you in regard to the 100g limit, especially in Japan. I should mentioned the Pavo Pico achieved this in my video because that is certainly a benefit of it. I was planning a trip there and was looking for exactly that sub100g platform. In that perspective, if we are going over the 100g limit, why not increase the prop size and get even better performance? I think that the best option for this would be a ductless drone - i think in the near future we will see a 2" sub 100g 03 micro with plenty of performance - i hope to show it on this channel ;)
I will definitely try out those gemfan 2040s you recommended though - thank you very much!
I am interested in the analog version but I’m curious why they wouldn’t make the action camera mount not mounted to the dampener over the camera.
Good point - I actually wasnt aware of that. Maybe their main focus with this build was the 03 and other HD options
Brother.. I was NOT expecting it to be that agile. Until now I kept wondering what everyone's fascination was with it. I just assumed it would fly like a pig. I am extremely impressed. I have to build a naked o3 something now. Not sure what. Is it out of line to think that a naked o3 would be decent on a 3" toothpick? Can't wait to see what people use this setup for.
Sorry i missed this, Mike! I was really fiending for a TP3 style toothpick with a naked O3 in it after flying this.. The problem with this system is that it is a dual board setup - if we put it on a toothpick design we would have a really tall stack with the cam on top.. BUT i think we will be seeing a more capable 2s 2" 03 micro in the near future - maybe even on this channel 👀👀
if i buy this and i put my own naked 03 in it will i need to alter any of the PID's to get the same flight characteristic's same smooth flight as with the full 03 version or will it fly just fine if not better if i just put the naked 03 in and go fly?
This version IS the one with the naked 03 - do you mean if you bought just the frame kit? Either way, you can just apply the specific CLI from flywoos website for the version you build - in this case, if you bought the frame kit and installed the naked 03, you can just apply that CLI. Although I assume they didn’t change the tune between the regular 03 version and the naked 03
@@MoeFPV thanks man, i have just bought the pavo20 but the naked 03 doesnt fit insdie the mount does it. would you say the pavo20 even needs a naked 03 for better freestyle flights hence its 3s power? but yeah i am also thinking of buying the flylens85 as a cruiser/indoor flyer and putting the naked 03 in that or would you say im just wasting my money since i already have a small ducted drone? is the pavo20 good for everything that the flylens 85 naked would be? i know the flylens has less jello but thats not something im really bothered about tbh i just want a small woop that can be flown indoors for slow flights and also fast/freestyle flights do do you see any point in getting the flylens if i already have the pavo20?
i love your vids bro are these stock rates out the box ?
Thank you very much! These are stock PIDs but I did put my rates on it out of the box. I use actual rates, 70, 800, .25
Do you think this the best cinewhoop for freestyle ? And I wish you did a review on the oddity xi25 or 35
I know the lite 03 is the hot thing now, but I wanna know how the analog flylens compares to the analog mobula8 as just a fun freestyle 2s whoop.
What’s up MR meaty ! I can tell you the analog mob 8 is great and shares none of the issues I have with the O3 mob 8. I would say the extra price and build configuration of the fly lens would not be better suited to freestyle like the mob 8 is. The mob 8 format is definitely a freestyle quad first O3 cinewhoop second. Fly lens was designed as a cinewhoop from jump IMO
Good to know. I LOVE my analog mob8 but it felt wonky when I strapped my thumb cam to it. Thinking analog flylens might be good for a thumb cam cinewhoop!
How come you didn't use a 1000 battery?
Apologies just got to the 8min point where you talk about the 1000
Thanks Moe! Excellent video! Although... It would be nice to see it crash 😂
Sorry, but why no subtitle for thí video? Thanks
Sorry, i thought CZcams automatically adds subtitles in English, no?
@@MoeFPV no, it doesnt have this video, maybe you dont choose languages English in this setting.
For cinematic do you think I can fly it with a naked GoPro over it ?
You should be able to carry a naked gopro with this setup as long as they make the appropriate mounts for it. Youll get considerably less performance out of it and flight time - might be best to go analog if youre using an external cam
@@MoeFPVthanks ! I can print one mount, I’d use it for cinematic shots eventually. I’m concern about space and battery , seems all really tight to mount a naked but if It can handle I will
Try ! I’m using walksnail I hope to be light enough to balance the weight a little . That would be perfect instead of bigger and louder tinywhoops out there
Best o3 settings in a nutshell?
This is what I’ve found to be the best O3 settings:
4k 60fps, EIS off, Wide, 1/60-1/120 shutter speed, Auto ISO (ideally staying 100-400), D-Cinelike color to get 10-bit, locked white balance, Sharpness -2, Denoising -2.
Stabilization: Gyroflow using 0.25 smoothness and dynamic zooming speed of 4 seconds.
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I was wondering about the flight time of your o3 lite 85.
In this video it only flew for 4 minutes with a 1000mah battery.
Here is the video: czcams.com/video/RK5-krzHG2M/video.htmlsi=x4I6SoT4yriUPssJ
My 85 is coming with 10 1000 batteries.
I am confused.
Unfortunately, I have not had a chance to test the 1000mah, only the 720s, in which I got about 4:45 which was the absolute longest i was able to push it. Why the 1000mah is similar could be a few different factors such as the cell quality or the additional weight of the larger battery cancels out the additional MAH. I would say the 1000mah should still give you a good flight experience but 4-5 min is about the max time you will get
Bro thinks he's Nick Burns 💀
I wish
Why are you hating on Moe?! 😅 you sound salty haha. We love moe around here!
great content keep it up Moe
Great review as always Moe 😁👍
Nick is legend, but Moe rips these little things way better